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Varoth Drac wrote:

Thumb Green wrote:

Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:

Only limiting gear to let's say basic for example will do little. Pro player with max skills still have advantage no matter what.

That is true but doing a little is better than doing nothing. True again that max skills will give an advantage no matter what but max skills on basic doesn't provide as much advantage as max skills on proto and officer. Max skills on a proto suit gives more CPU/PG wiggle room than on basic . Max skills on the AG-1 gives you 221 CPU and 40 PG on the AGK.0 it's 498 CPU and 91 PG and on the RAGK.o it's 610 CPU and 118PG, more than double and almost triple the fitting room just from the suits themselves. Then you throw on the weapon fitting cost reduction skills (don't forget the assaults as well as logi's equipment) and you can slap near about anything you want on it without worrying about sacrificing much. Whereas with basic and adv sacrifices have to made on some things so you can have better of something else.

Restricting gear won't completely level the playing field but it greatly cuts down on the advantage maxed out players have over not so maxed out players and offers them a greater chance to compete. However little it may be it is still a lot better than nothing at all.

Removing passive skill bonuses, by which I mean all skill bonuses that provide a benefit other than access to gear and fitting cost reduction / fitting space, would be another major step in improving NPE and match quality.

Players should have to pay for their advantages.


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Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:07:00 - [1] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only limiting gear to let's say basic for example will do little. Pro player with max skills still have advantage no matter what. That is true but doing a little is better than doing nothing. True again that max skills will give an advantage no matter what but max skills on basic doesn't provide as much advantage as max skills on proto and officer. Max skills on a proto suit gives more CPU/PG wiggle room than on basic . Max skills on the AG-1 gives you 221 CPU and 40 PG on the AGK.0 it's 498 CPU and 91 PG and on the RAGK.o it's 610 CPU and 118PG, more than double and almost triple the fitting room just from the suits themselves. Then you throw on the weapon fitting cost reduction skills (don't forget the assaults as well as logi's equipment) and you can slap near about anything you want on it without worrying about sacrificing much. Whereas with basic and adv sacrifices have to made on some things so you can have better of something else. Restricting gear won't completely level the playing field but it greatly cuts down on the advantage maxed out players have over not so maxed out players and offers them a greater chance to compete. However little it may be it is still a lot better than nothing at all. Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks. Dust really needs its high sec.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 21:31:00 - [2] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only limiting gear to let's say basic for example will do little. Pro player with max skills still have advantage no matter what. That is true but doing a little is better than doing nothing. True again that max skills will give an advantage no matter what but max skills on basic doesn't provide as much advantage as max skills on proto and officer. Max skills on a proto suit gives more CPU/PG wiggle room than on basic . Max skills on the AG-1 gives you 221 CPU and 40 PG on the AGK.0 it's 498 CPU and 91 PG and on the RAGK.o it's 610 CPU and 118PG, more than double and almost triple the fitting room just from the suits themselves. Then you throw on the weapon fitting cost reduction skills (don't forget the assaults as well as logi's equipment) and you can slap near about anything you want on it without worrying about sacrificing much. Whereas with basic and adv sacrifices have to made on some things so you can have better of something else. Restricting gear won't completely level the playing field but it greatly cuts down on the advantage maxed out players have over not so maxed out players and offers them a greater chance to compete. However little it may be it is still a lot better than nothing at all. Removing passive skill bonuses, by which I mean all skill bonuses that provide a benefit other than access to gear and fitting cost reduction / fitting space, would be another major step in improving NPE and match quality. Players should have to pay for their advantages. And suddenly doing a little becomes doing a lot. I suggested something similar before but it was limiting the passive to a certain level which of course that was also with the thought of meta locks in mind so a generalized standard, adv, proto locked queue would only allow up to that level of skill bonus to be used. While I don't appose completely removing the bonuses in pubs as you suggest I would prefer to allow for up to adv to be used. Because that is part of the core of the game; then again we'd still have FW & PC for that so perhaps it is worth a try. Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks. Dust really needs its high sec.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.11.18 15:14:00 - [3] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: There Are Not Enough Players What part of this is so hard to understand? If you try to split people up to improve matchmaking or restrict what gear they can use, it's just going to encourage the playerbase to separate more across modes and make it even harder to find matches. People been saying that for a long time now in regards to meta/gear locks and the player base keeps on shrinking a little bit by little bit. I said it before, CCP just needs to bite the bullet and just go ahead and split up the players then there'd be room for growth; because all these people going balls to the walls are suffocating the life out of this game, slowly but surely. Best outcome game actually grows and queue times shorten; the worse that's going to happen, longer search times, well that's the same end result we'll see if we don't split players. Cause players will keep leaving until nothing but the cancer is left and then this game will die because cancer doesn't fight itself. Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks. Dust really needs its high sec.