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Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.18 01:27:00 - [1] - Quote Someone who has the ability/resources should write one ecompassing the entire history of Dust. I'm not talking about a documentary but a story that is based on "history of Dust". There are so many story lines...I think it would be interesting. Of course, one would have to do their homework and get the behind the scenes stories and actual facts of what happened. Cause tbh, I would support it if it was done right and made to sound interesting. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Cavani1EE7 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 01:48:00 - [2] - Quote now that'd be interesting, instead of writing homosexual erotic stories why don't you writers focus on something like this? Quote: Of course, one would have to do their homework and get the behind the scenes stories and actual facts of what happened. and doing it in this way too
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 02:07:00 - [3] - Quote Imps beat Dust, and everyone else fought over the scraps they left behind. The end.
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.18 02:59:00 - [4] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Imps beat Dust, and everyone else fought over the scraps they left behind. The end. But the Imps never really beat Dust though, right? They were the number one clan in the closed beta but never really impacted PC because they died shortly after release. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Demandred Moores Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 204	Posted - 2015.10.18 09:56:00 - [5] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Imps beat Dust, and everyone else fought over the scraps they left behind. The end. But the Imps never really beat Dust though, right? They were the number one clan in the closed beta but never really impacted PC because they died shortly after release. This isn't beta? **** biomassing riseofancientFA.gs
Shiyou Hidiyoshi ZEN KILL Society 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 10:17:00 - [6] - Quote Should call it "Dust 514: History of lies" because the majority of people would just tell lies. Getting actual facts that are very accurate is as likely as CCP putting out a fix without breaking something. "I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masturbat afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 14:18:00 - [7] - Quote Not so much lies Yoshi...but it was Definatly be very distinct variations of the truth based on who you ask and which side they were on. So somone in the city during a pc the fight would have been intense. To the scout or who ever Guarding home point..may be much different story. So what I suggest is who ever takes on this event has some work cut out for them...and as the old saying goes. Many hands make light work. Meaning..start from the begging of the time line...which corps or which people were around bsck then...get like 5 people to tell their stories from the time zone. ..make that one chapter of the book. Keep doing that all the way up to current state. All your job would be would be to find the people to write the story for you. Convince them it's worth writing...and then put it all together. Done and done. Each side of a war considers themselves the good guys snd the other side bad guys. The only person I can think of off top of my head that would be to dillusional to really take what the say seriously would be Dust User. He's convinced KEQ was the real power in MH. Just they chose not to do anything with it. In fact..it think he's been quoted as saying keq chose to get steam rolled all the time in pc. .because winning has no #honor. #rekt Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
MidnightStormz NervousMoment. 110	Posted - 2015.10.18 15:05:00 - [8] - Quote This is a great idea! But again to go with what everyone else is saying.. The variations of the "facts" and "truth" to each person telling the story would make it too difficult. It's like the telephone game.. If someone is wanting the homework of this task than I would suggest getting the CEO and two main directors of each corp that made a mark on the PC history. Or rather than a book a video documentary of the people relaying their interpretation of what happened.. This way it would give the viewers their own choice and idea of exactly what happened. And hopefully would spark new wars and the older players to return. But you can never leave out all the homosexuality in this. It has and will always be part of Dust 514. Badgerr Ragers alt. I ain't scared like ya'll. I bring the miley for FA.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 15:28:00 - [9] - Quote You guys are silly, it's not hard to write an unbiased history of Dust, it's already been done. You guys probably forgot, but War Room actually used to be closer to the News Room, where we had people writing up paragraphs, even linking sites with Blogs giving us daily reports on all the corps and there doings in MH. My favorite among these was an incredibly talented writer who always ended his reports with, "And that's why I hate it here." They stopped during the EoN Wars for obvious reasons. The game never recovered after that point. And I honestly don't believe some of you are nearly as biased as you post, but others of you are honestly as dumb as you look.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 15:30:00 - [10] - Quote ****, if people gave me enough Dust footage of all the roles, I could put together a video explaining Dust's history, where it was, and where it is today. I could link the progress here and you guys can debate on it till we get a final product ready for GD to suck on.

XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.18 15:31:00 - [11] - Quote A mercenaries' history of Molded Heath Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
dusty5678 WarRavens Imperium Eden 307	Posted - 2015.10.18 15:34:00 - [12] - Quote Why not base it on each different PC corp to start with. And then go to individuals after. I was considering doing this but everytime I try to write something I get sidetracked. Usually by Dust itself :3 "Terrible thing to send a universe to certain doom... Fun though!" Long Live Queen ZarZar <3 CCP act like you care.
Weznof Nalek Providentia Aeternam 123	Posted - 2015.10.18 16:01:00 - [13] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Someone who has the ability/resources should write one ecompassing the entire history of Dust. I'm not talking about a documentary but a story that is based on "history of Dust". There are so many story lines...I think it would be interesting. Of course, one would have to do their homework and get the behind the scenes stories and actual facts of what happened. Cause tbh, I would support it if it was done right and made to sound interesting. Buy Eve Source Judge Magister Inquisitor La vérité sur Olssam62
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 16:02:00 - [14] - Quote dusty5678 wrote: Why not base it on each different PC corp to start with. And then go to individuals after. I was considering doing this but everytime I try to write something I get sidetracked. Usually by Dust itself :3 Why, the only corps with any relevance in MH's outcome have been AE, NF, TP, and OH. If everyone else has to change there methods depending on these groups decisions then the report should be focused on them, and not the people not causing waves.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.18 16:28:00 - [15] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: dusty5678 wrote: Why not base it on each different PC corp to start with. And then go to individuals after. I was considering doing this but everytime I try to write something I get sidetracked. Usually by Dust itself :3 Why, the only corps with any relevance in MH's outcome have been AE, NF, TP, FA, and OH. If everyone else has to change there methods depending on these groups decisions then the report should be focused on them, and not the people not causing waves. FTFY Sota is right that there's a lot of history contained in the war room. I've also taken the time to write a pretty detailed account of PC from my perspective in TP and FA before, but it got really long due to over zealousness in terms of detail and I only made it to January when AE successfully took a district from us (I need to find that thread) and have only briefly alluded to the emergence of ERA. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 16:38:00 - [16] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: dusty5678 wrote: Why not base it on each different PC corp to start with. And then go to individuals after. I was considering doing this but everytime I try to write something I get sidetracked. Usually by Dust itself :3 Why, the only corps with any relevance in MH's outcome have been AE, NF, TP, FA, and OH. If everyone else has to change there methods depending on these groups decisions then the report should be focused on them, and not the people not causing waves. FTFY Sota is right that there's a lot of history contained in the war room. I've also taken the time to write a pretty detailed account of PC from my perspective in TP and FA before, but it got really long due to over zealousness in terms of detail and I only made it to January when AE successfully took a district from us (I need to find that thread) and have only briefly alluded to the emergence of ERA. My bad, FA is more then worthy to be on that list of corps whose made MH move with them.
bigolenuts 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 17:55:00 - [17] - Quote As much as it pains me to say this, I agree with Sota. Everything is basically in the War Room. From beginning to end. The backroom deals is a different story although most of them are posted somewhere after the fact. When I was a kid we didn't have video games. We went outside and beat ni99ers with sticks.
dusty5678 WarRavens Imperium Eden 307	Posted - 2015.10.18 19:37:00 - [18] - Quote My point was that each corp had a struggle in PC. No corp ever just immediately raped face. You could do a account of each PC corp's history because everyone will tell it different. People might want to learn about a corp like GAM, about it's history. Just as an example. We don't have to talk about all the big PC corp's. While they may be the only corp's that matter to us, they won't be for others. Yes all this is in the War Room but that's only for a couple corps. Not all of them. "Terrible thing to send a universe to certain doom... Fun though!" Long Live Queen ZarZar <3 CCP act like you care.
dusty5678 WarRavens Imperium Eden 307	Posted - 2015.10.18 19:40:00 - [19] - Quote Anyways it's just an idea. I just think that everyone should get a chance to learn about the multiple corps in MH and their story of how they got into PC. From start to finish, if they haven't finished already. Lol "Terrible thing to send a universe to certain doom... Fun though!" Long Live Queen ZarZar <3 CCP act like you care.
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.18 21:36:00 - [20] - Quote Weznof Nalek wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Someone who has the ability/resources should write one ecompassing the entire history of Dust. I'm not talking about a documentary but a story that is based on "history of Dust". There are so many story lines...I think it would be interesting. Of course, one would have to do their homework and get the behind the scenes stories and actual facts of what happened. Cause tbh, I would support it if it was done right and made to sound interesting. Buy Eve Source For what? "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here

Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.18 21:42:00 - [21] - Quote Just caught up on some of the posts....I don't think that getting the truth would be difficult. Of course, if there are opposing sides to a conflict then the truth may vary. But I'm talking about stories about what led up to one corp/alliance launching an attack. Or, why did one corp disband or was created, etc. For example, scenes in this book/web series would depict meetings with Mavado & Cubs getting called by whoever represented the Imps. It would display the plot to join forces vs Seraphim. If they could remember, actual conversations would be written and we'd see what the outcome was. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.18 21:50:00 - [22] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: dusty5678 wrote: Why not base it on each different PC corp to start with. And then go to individuals after. I was considering doing this but everytime I try to write something I get sidetracked. Usually by Dust itself :3 Why, the only corps with any relevance in MH's outcome have been AE, NF, TP, and OH. If everyone else has to change there methods depending on these groups decisions then the report should be focused on them, and not the people not causing waves. Man..I am talking about from the beginning. A well written product would have to consist of Imps, SI, STB, PFB, Hellstorm, LOI alliance, Cronos alliance, Zion's CEO, EoN alliance with the corps inside of EoN. NS has to be placed in there. There are stories all over the place. ROFL and their war with Zion & STB has to be placed in there. Ahrendee has always played the low side but there is a story in there with us as well. Can't mention the FEC war without Ahrendee Mercenaries as we had the second most number of districts in EoN. Some of the stories has to involve me in there as well with all of the backroom dealings and politics that used to go on. I'm not talking about some small project to be placed in the war room. I'm talking about a real drama that is based on Dust's history. Think of Star Wars: Clone wars....it could be something similar. If I had the talent as a writer, I would do it myself. You never know, they could sell the series to a studio or just publish it themselves. Edit: The only issue is when does the story end? Does it end after the Fanfest announcement of Legion which was the final straw for most corporations for good? Would we include these "wars" that are going on now? "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.18 22:18:00 - [23] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Just caught up on some of the posts....I don't think that getting the truth would be difficult. Of course, if there are opposing sides to a conflict then the truth may vary. But I'm talking about stories about what led up to one corp/alliance launching an attack. Or, why did one corp disband or was created, etc. For example, scenes in this book/web series would depict meetings with Mavado & Cubs getting called by whoever represented the Imps. It would display the plot to join forces vs Seraphim. If they could remember, actual conversations would be written and we'd see what the outcome was. Me, Free Beers, and Kain were the representatives, though it was ultimately my call to align with EoN and join the CRONOS wars instead of mercing for ISK, it was done through by agreement with all parties involved, which, was at one point, with Quickgloves and STB - but they flaked out, more concerned with fighting the weakest alliance in the game at the time - Zion TCD's (Whatever it was called, they died before I even got to see them on the field) Cubs wasn't actually involved in a lot of the talks, TP wasn't at the credit they are now, they were definitely pulling weight but SyN and Death Dealers were still more popular at the time. It wasn't until mid Cronos wars with TP winning as often as Imps, Hailstorm, and SyN, that they got noticed. Eventually TP's success would put them as vanguard for not only ringers, but diplomacy too since it was mostly them dealing with it. it worked out because Cubs is just that kinda guy to point a mob in the right direction. So eventually Mavado gives up on Dust and Cubs takes full reign - but by that time Cubs has assimilated Negative-Feedback into TP.
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.18 22:56:00 - [24] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Just caught up on some of the posts....I don't think that getting the truth would be difficult. Of course, if there are opposing sides to a conflict then the truth may vary. But I'm talking about stories about what led up to one corp/alliance launching an attack. Or, why did one corp disband or was created, etc. For example, scenes in this book/web series would depict meetings with Mavado & Cubs getting called by whoever represented the Imps. It would display the plot to join forces vs Seraphim. If they could remember, actual conversations would be written and we'd see what the outcome was. Me, Free Beers, and Kain were the representatives, though it was ultimately my call to align with EoN and join the CRONOS wars instead of mercing for ISK, it was done through by agreement with all parties involved, which, was at one point, with Quickgloves and STB - but they flaked out, more concerned with fighting the weakest alliance in the game at the time - Zion TCD's (Whatever it was called, they died before I even got to see them on the field) Cubs wasn't actually involved in a lot of the talks, TP wasn't at the credit they are now, they were definitely pulling weight but SyN and Death Dealers were still more popular at the time. It wasn't until mid Cronos wars with TP winning as often as Imps, Hailstorm, and SyN, that they got noticed. Eventually TP's success would put them as vanguard for not only ringers, but diplomacy too since it was mostly them dealing with it. it worked out because Cubs is just that kinda guy to point a mob in the right direction. So eventually Mavado gives up on Dust and Cubs takes full reign - but by that time Cubs has assimilated Negative-Feedback into TP. ok....and that's just a long story cut short. But the story could be kept long. See, you mentioned corps and characters that you weren't even thinking about before. Zion, STB, Quickgloves (I mean, how could you talk about Dust without Quickgloves :) ), Death Dealers, Free Beers, etc. And that is just one plot. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.18 22:58:00 - [25] - Quote Omg...I would really like to see this. Kane would be the most hated character lol. Cubs would be hated and adored but then you'd have to kill him and he could be a martyr. If noone does it...CCP you should do it. Make it a Netflix original series or whatever. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.10.19 03:59:00 - [26] - Quote Demandred Moores wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Imps beat Dust, and everyone else fought over the scraps they left behind. The end. But the Imps never really beat Dust though, right? They were the number one clan in the closed beta but never really impacted PC because they died shortly after release. This isn't beta? **** biomassing This is open beta, he said closed beta "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.10.19 04:01:00 - [27] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: You guys are silly, it's not hard to write an unbiased history of Dust, it's already been done. You guys probably forgot, but War Room actually used to be closer to the News Room, where we had people writing up paragraphs, even linking sites with Blogs giving us daily reports on all the corps and there doings in MH. My favorite among these was an incredibly talented writer who always ended his reports with, "And that's why I hate it here." They stopped during the EoN Wars for obvious reasons. The game never recovered after that point. And I honestly don't believe some of you are nearly as biased as you post, but others of you are honestly as dumb as you look. I'm dumber than I look. "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 13	Posted - 2015.10.19 13:33:00 - [28] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: You guys are silly, it's not hard to write an unbiased history of Dust, it's already been done. You guys probably forgot, but War Room actually used to be closer to the News Room, where we had people writing up paragraphs, even linking sites with Blogs giving us daily reports on all the corps and there doings in MH. My favorite among these was an incredibly talented writer who always ended his reports with, "And that's why I hate it here." They stopped during the EoN Wars for obvious reasons. The game never recovered after that point. And I honestly don't believe some of you are nearly as biased as you post, but others of you are honestly as dumb as you look. That dude wrote for Dust Reports, I remember reading his works as well. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
trolero y violador Ancient Exiles. 63	Posted - 2015.10.19 15:27:00 - [29] - Quote Cavani1EE7 wrote: now that'd be interesting, instead of writing homosexual erotic stories why don't you writers focus on something like this? Quote: Of course, one would have to do their homework and get the behind the scenes stories and actual facts of what happened. and doing it in this way too homosexual erotic stories lol my FB, me vale verga lo que digan, igual RUST514 TOP Y GAC me lo chupan
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.19 15:36:00 - [30] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2857283#post2857283 There you go dubs, lots of Dust history compiled into 1 spot.

xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings RUST415 825	Posted - 2015.10.19 16:20:00 - [31] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Someone who has the ability/resources should write one ecompassing the entire history of Dust. I'm not talking about a documentary but a story that is based on "history of Dust". There are so many story lines...I think it would be interesting. Of course, one would have to do their homework and get the behind the scenes stories and actual facts of what happened. Cause tbh, I would support it if it was done right and made to sound interesting. The person would have specifically be unbiased to the entire history of Planetary Conquest. They could also go the Star Wars route, by linking a series of arcs together that intertwine through cause and effect. LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // *Director of Eternal Beings* // *GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate*
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.20 03:36:00 - [32] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2857283#post2857283 There you go dubs, lots of Dust history compiled into 1 spot. Not for me...I wouldn't be able to write a book or web series or create a screenplay. If someone had the resources/talent, then we'll have to link it for them. But that wouldn't be enough...they would have to do interviews to get all of the backroom dealings and conversations with all of the players involve to make it interesting. CCP might be able to do it......they even have stats on the "lives" lost in the wars. It may have been rumors but I heard they were trying to create a movie or something for Eve. I'm saying, someone should do something along those lines for Dust. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.20 03:43:00 - [33] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Someone who has the ability/resources should write one ecompassing the entire history of Dust. I'm not talking about a documentary but a story that is based on "history of Dust". There are so many story lines...I think it would be interesting. Of course, one would have to do their homework and get the behind the scenes stories and actual facts of what happened. Cause tbh, I would support it if it was done right and made to sound interesting. The person would have specifically be unbiased to the entire history of Planetary Conquest. They could also go the Star Wars route, by linking a series of arcs together that intertwine through cause and effect. Absolutely...they won't be telling the history from their perspective but retelling it from the perspective of everyone they interview. We've all watched drama series and see how the writers of the show have depicted both opposing sides the villians in each other's side. For example, FEC-EoN war. When writing scenes, one can write the conversations and perspectives from EoN's side where they never planned to amass so much territory and that it was just a matter of happenstance. People will be able to see their side and understand. But then scenes would switch to the FEC side and see their perspective. Readers would side with whomever they choose. It's like watching a superhero movie where they show the origins and the events that led up to the reasons why a villain or superhero chose their respective paths. So, no reason to be biased.....just spitting out both/all sides of the story and connecting them together. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ayuzawa 9	Posted - 2015.10.22 00:31:00 - [34] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Should call it "Dust 514: History of lies" because the majority of people would just tell lies. Getting actual facts that are very accurate is as likely as CCP putting out a fix without breaking something. It is very easy to call someone a liar or a hypocrite, but I would think that the best way to weed out the lies and hypocrisy is through silence and meditation. If every one of us focused on ourselves and whether or not we were up to our own standards of living and doing things morally correct then there would be little to no problems. An attitude of "This person may be lying, but that's not my business and frankly I do not care enough to make it my business." That's not to say specifically that people who go about weeding out the liars are busybody's, but that people who focus on what other people are or are not doing get less done; considering the fact that no one can control anyone other than themselves. You and I only have the capabilities to take control over you and I from birth; and that is already hard enough to do. Also, calling other people liars or hypocrites really only translates back to the fact that everyone is whatever we say they are regardless of whether or not what we say they are is who they actually are. Finding out who a person is takes resources (more specifically time) that most of us do not have to sparingly toss out to everyone. This would go back to priorities. You find people you care about, make them a priority to spend your resources on, and then you remember why exactly you singled them out in the beginning when they prove to be human and make a mistake that doesn't make you happy.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.22 00:41:00 - [35] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Should call it "Dust 514: History of lies" because the majority of people would just tell lies. Getting actual facts that are very accurate is as likely as CCP putting out a fix without breaking something. It is very easy to call someone a liar or a hypocrite, but I would think that the best way to weed out the lies and hypocrisy is through silence and meditation. If every one of us focused on ourselves and whether or not we were up to our own standards of living and doing things morally correct then there would be little to no problems. An attitude of "This person may be lying, but that's not my business and frankly I do not care enough to make it my business." That's not to say specifically that people who go about weeding out the liars are busybody's, but that people who focus on what other people are or are not doing get less done; considering the fact that no one can control anyone other than themselves. You and I only have the capabilities to take control over you and I from birth; and that is already hard enough to do. Also, calling other people liars or hypocrites really only translates back to the fact that everyone is whatever we say they are regardless of whether or not what we say they are is who they actually are. Finding out who a person is takes resources (more specifically time) that most of us do not have to sparingly toss out to everyone. This would go back to priorities. You find people you care about, make them a priority to spend your resources on, and then you remember why exactly you singled them out in the beginning when they prove to be human and make a mistake that doesn't make you happy. You should of just ignored his comment, like you said in your first line, it's easy to tell if it's BS or not. What's he's honestly referring too is that the popular opinion of events will over-turn his own personal ones, making AE look like immoral **** heads while TP and Imps, using the exact same style and trolling, won't be. Lol
Ayuzawa 9	Posted - 2015.10.22 00:44:00 - [36] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Should call it "Dust 514: History of lies" because the majority of people would just tell lies. Getting actual facts that are very accurate is as likely as CCP putting out a fix without breaking something. It is very easy to call someone a liar or a hypocrite, but I would think that the best way to weed out the lies and hypocrisy is through silence and meditation. If every one of us focused on ourselves and whether or not we were up to our own standards of living and doing things morally correct then there would be little to no problems. An attitude of "This person may be lying, but that's not my business and frankly I do not care enough to make it my business." That's not to say specifically that people who go about weeding out the liars are busybody's, but that people who focus on what other people are or are not doing get less done; considering the fact that no one can control anyone other than themselves. You and I only have the capabilities to take control over you and I from birth; and that is already hard enough to do. Also, calling other people liars or hypocrites really only translates back to the fact that everyone is whatever we say they are regardless of whether or not what we say they are is who they actually are. Finding out who a person is takes resources (more specifically time) that most of us do not have to sparingly toss out to everyone. This would go back to priorities. You find people you care about, make them a priority to spend your resources on, and then you remember why exactly you singled them out in the beginning when they prove to be human and make a mistake that doesn't make you happy. You should of just ignored his comment, like you said in your first line, it's easy to tell if it's BS or not. What's he's honestly referring too is that the popular opinion of events will over-turn his own personal ones, making AE look like immoral **** heads while TP and Imps, using the exact same style and trolling, won't be. Lol Yes, well, most people are biased; even yourself. You saw things as an OG Imperfect and Shiyou saw things as an OG AE member. To each their own. Perhaps, the best source would be someone whose loyalty has not been pledged. Loyalty usually requires bias, does it not?
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.22 00:50:00 - [37] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Should call it "Dust 514: History of lies" because the majority of people would just tell lies. Getting actual facts that are very accurate is as likely as CCP putting out a fix without breaking something. It is very easy to call someone a liar or a hypocrite, but I would think that the best way to weed out the lies and hypocrisy is through silence and meditation. If every one of us focused on ourselves and whether or not we were up to our own standards of living and doing things morally correct then there would be little to no problems. An attitude of "This person may be lying, but that's not my business and frankly I do not care enough to make it my business." That's not to say specifically that people who go about weeding out the liars are busybody's, but that people who focus on what other people are or are not doing get less done; considering the fact that no one can control anyone other than themselves. You and I only have the capabilities to take control over you and I from birth; and that is already hard enough to do. Also, calling other people liars or hypocrites really only translates back to the fact that everyone is whatever we say they are regardless of whether or not what we say they are is who they actually are. Finding out who a person is takes resources (more specifically time) that most of us do not have to sparingly toss out to everyone. This would go back to priorities. You find people you care about, make them a priority to spend your resources on, and then you remember why exactly you singled them out in the beginning when they prove to be human and make a mistake that doesn't make you happy. You should of just ignored his comment, like you said in your first line, it's easy to tell if it's BS or not. What's he's honestly referring too is that the popular opinion of events will over-turn his own personal ones, making AE look like immoral **** heads while TP and Imps, using the exact same style and trolling, won't be. Lol Yes, well, most people are biased; even yourself. You saw things as an OG Imperfect and Shiyou saw things as an OG AE member. To each their own. Perhaps, the best source would be someone whose loyalty has not been pledged. Loyalty usually requires bias, does it not? Objectifying events is pretty simply done, the only details i'd be missing is the why to AE's side of things. AE declares war (Shid fills in the reason) TP responds in kind (SoTa fills in the reason) FA then responds with (Zatara fills in the details) leading to several corps doing x, y, z. CCP then adds, so and so, corps do this, in response mercing rises, causing groups x, y and z, to make grander moves. It's not hard, you just can't fill in the blanks that make the story interesting, but they're extra details to begin with. Not needed.
Ayuzawa 9	Posted - 2015.10.22 01:13:00 - [38] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Should call it "Dust 514: History of lies" because the majority of people would just tell lies. Getting actual facts that are very accurate is as likely as CCP putting out a fix without breaking something. It is very easy to call someone a liar or a hypocrite, but I would think that the best way to weed out the lies and hypocrisy is through silence and meditation. If every one of us focused on ourselves and whether or not we were up to our own standards of living and doing things morally correct then there would be little to no problems. An attitude of "This person may be lying, but that's not my business and frankly I do not care enough to make it my business." That's not to say specifically that people who go about weeding out the liars are busybody's, but that people who focus on what other people are or are not doing get less done; considering the fact that no one can control anyone other than themselves. You and I only have the capabilities to take control over you and I from birth; and that is already hard enough to do. Also, calling other people liars or hypocrites really only translates back to the fact that everyone is whatever we say they are regardless of whether or not what we say they are is who they actually are. Finding out who a person is takes resources (more specifically time) that most of us do not have to sparingly toss out to everyone. This would go back to priorities. You find people you care about, make them a priority to spend your resources on, and then you remember why exactly you singled them out in the beginning when they prove to be human and make a mistake that doesn't make you happy. You should of just ignored his comment, like you said in your first line, it's easy to tell if it's BS or not. What's he's honestly referring too is that the popular opinion of events will over-turn his own personal ones, making AE look like immoral **** heads while TP and Imps, using the exact same style and trolling, won't be. Lol Yes, well, most people are biased; even yourself. You saw things as an OG Imperfect and Shiyou saw things as an OG AE member. To each their own. Perhaps, the best source would be someone whose loyalty has not been pledged. Loyalty usually requires bias, does it not? Objectifying events is pretty simply done, the only details i'd be missing is the why to AE's side of things. AE declares war (Shid fills in the reason) TP responds in kind (SoTa fills in the reason) FA then responds with (Zatara fills in the details) leading to several corps doing x, y, z. CCP then adds, so and so, corps do this, in response mercing rises, causing groups x, y and z, to make grander moves. It's not hard, you just can't fill in the blanks that make the story interesting, but they're extra details to begin with. Not needed. I would definitely argue with you stating that objectifying events is "simply done". It all begins with emotion, which is illogical. Even the clearest minds have been fogged by their feelings, which catapults people into making decisions that lead to and make up events. For example, you could recount how someone betrayed you ruthlessly in game, which led to comments made, which led to different alliances being made, which led to words, which led to a war. Things are not black and white. As I said, understanding things perfectly takes time and work from more than one person. A person is only capable of telling their own story, seeing things through their eyes, and recounting what they saw. The completely unbiased story would be an unbiased person not starring in that specific one collecting everyone's recollections together and then tying in events to create a complete history book. But the probability of that being possible is slim to none. Why? Because the propensity to lie is more often than not, especially online. One little lie about how something happened or one miniscule missing detail could make a huge impact. Although, maybe you're correct and I'm being na+»ve; when I think a complete history book on anything I'm thinking the truth. Anyone could write a history book just as anyone can write a fictional novel. There's bound to be something missing or twisted in there. But, as a writer or a journalist, my goal would be to get as humanly close to the truth as possible so things are more accurate.
Soul Eater II RISING P0WER 263	Posted - 2015.10.22 01:22:00 - [39] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Not so much lies Yoshi...but it was Definatly be very distinct variations of the truth based on who you ask and which side they were on. So somone in the city during a pc the fight would have been intense. To the scout or who ever Guarding home point..may be much different story. So what I suggest is who ever takes on this event has some work cut out for them...and as the old saying goes. Many hands make light work. Meaning..start from the begging of the time line...which corps or which people were around bsck then...get like 5 people to tell their stories from the time zone. ..make that one chapter of the book. Keep doing that all the way up to current state. All your job would be would be to find the people to write the story for you. Convince them it's worth writing...and then put it all together. Done and done. Each side of a war considers themselves the good guys snd the other side bad guys. The only person I can think of off top of my head that would be to dillusional to really take what the say seriously would be Dust User. He's convinced KEQ was the real power in MH. Just they chose not to do anything with it. In fact..it think he's been quoted as saying keq chose to get steam rolled all the time in pc. .because winning has no #honor. #rekt lol dust user Bae af' No Flex Zone ;)
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.22 01:45:00 - [40] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2857283#post2857283 There you go dubs, lots of Dust history compiled into 1 spot. Go through this link. Do you see my post? That's what an objective story looks like -no real reasons given, just evidence with action. All other information is superfluous. The actual reasonings are so skewed in so many directions even mentioning it would cause a fight because everyone believes they did the same thing for different reasons. The only groups that ever truly unified under one action were AE, TP, and FA. Even OH failed at this, often leading to trolling something hard down the line once they were no longer corpies.

Maximus Mobius 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 03:13:00 - [41] - Quote Hey, I just got back after being gone for a little more than a month and see this. I actually am in the middle of writing my own book and would actually enjoy writing a Dust 514 story. Though I would need all the facts and permission from CCP. If anyone cares to tell me the whole truth that is. Death
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 04:17:00 - [42] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: Hey, I just got back after being gone for a little more than a month and see this. I actually am in the middle of writing my own book and would actually enjoy writing a Dust 514 story. Though I would need all the facts and permission from CCP. If anyone cares to tell me the whole truth that is. You would take on this project?? I can help you get in contact with some of the people. You would have to start from the very beginning, you know "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Maximus Mobius 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 04:36:00 - [43] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Hey, I just got back after being gone for a little more than a month and see this. I actually am in the middle of writing my own book and would actually enjoy writing a Dust 514 story. Though I would need all the facts and permission from CCP. If anyone cares to tell me the whole truth that is. You would take on this project?? I can help you get in contact with some of the people. You would have to start from the very beginning, you know To be completely honest, it would be smarter to ask True Adamance since he knows the lore better than I do. And I think I can only start by next summer since I'm still knee deep in detail and grammatical corrections. With the summer empty though, I will have ample time. And I have to ask certain people if they want me to portray their likelihood in a book. Don't want to start legal issues over that. How to tank
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 04:41:00 - [44] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Hey, I just got back after being gone for a little more than a month and see this. I actually am in the middle of writing my own book and would actually enjoy writing a Dust 514 story. Though I would need all the facts and permission from CCP. If anyone cares to tell me the whole truth that is. You would take on this project?? I can help you get in contact with some of the people. You would have to start from the very beginning, you know To be completely honest, it would be smarter to ask True Adamance since he knows the lore better than I do. And I think I can only start by next summer since I'm still knee deep in detail and grammatical corrections. With the summer empty though, I will have ample time. And I have to ask certain people if they want me to portray their likelihood in a book. Don't want to start legal issues over that. What "lore" are you referring to? Dust or Eve? No one person can give you all of the info needed to write the series. And I don't think you don't need permission, right? Because first of all, these are game character's names and not people's real identities. Not to mention, that you would be creating a story for a series and not a biographical/historical retelling. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Maximus Mobius 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 04:47:00 - [45] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Hey, I just got back after being gone for a little more than a month and see this. I actually am in the middle of writing my own book and would actually enjoy writing a Dust 514 story. Though I would need all the facts and permission from CCP. If anyone cares to tell me the whole truth that is. You would take on this project?? I can help you get in contact with some of the people. You would have to start from the very beginning, you know To be completely honest, it would be smarter to ask True Adamance since he knows the lore better than I do. And I think I can only start by next summer since I'm still knee deep in detail and grammatical corrections. With the summer empty though, I will have ample time. And I have to ask certain people if they want me to portray their likelihood in a book. Don't want to start legal issues over that. What "lore" are you referring to? Dust or Eve? No one person can give you all of the info needed to write the series. And I don't think you don't need permission, right? Because first of all, these are game character's names and not people's real identities. Not to mention, that you would be creating a story for a series and not a biographical/historical retelling. A C&D can still apply to intellectual properties. Such as characters, concepts, names, bios etc etc. I will think about doing it but will need to get in contact with you or more about getting all the info. And lore that still implies about getting the little stuff correct like planets and Corp names and stuff to that effect. I was going to first finish up and then start a Fallout book. We'll see how this turns out. I most likely won't do it since it will only maximum sell 500~ copies. Not that attractive to an author. How to tank
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 04:53:00 - [46] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Hey, I just got back after being gone for a little more than a month and see this. I actually am in the middle of writing my own book and would actually enjoy writing a Dust 514 story. Though I would need all the facts and permission from CCP. If anyone cares to tell me the whole truth that is. You would take on this project?? I can help you get in contact with some of the people. You would have to start from the very beginning, you know To be completely honest, it would be smarter to ask True Adamance since he knows the lore better than I do. And I think I can only start by next summer since I'm still knee deep in detail and grammatical corrections. With the summer empty though, I will have ample time. And I have to ask certain people if they want me to portray their likelihood in a book. Don't want to start legal issues over that. What "lore" are you referring to? Dust or Eve? No one person can give you all of the info needed to write the series. And I don't think you don't need permission, right? Because first of all, these are game character's names and not people's real identities. Not to mention, that you would be creating a story for a series and not a biographical/historical retelling. A C&D can still apply to intellectual properties. Such as characters, concepts, names, bios etc etc. I will think about doing it but will need to get in contact with you or more about getting all the info. And lore that still implies about getting the little stuff correct like planets and Corp names and stuff to that effect. I was going to first finish up and then start a Fallout book. We'll see how this turns out. I most likely won't do it since it will only maximum sell 500~ copies. Not that attractive to an author. Ohh ok...well anyone that doesn't want to involve themselves, you can replace..no biggie :). well, I think a dust series would sell more than 500 copies. But the beauty of it is that people love a good story....could appeal to more than just Dust players. I didn't know the movie, "Eragon" was based on a novel...still enjoyed the movie though. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Maximus Mobius 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 04:59:00 - [47] - Quote I'll have to get permission of CCP. If everything turns out well, I'll do it. Will have to hire a producer and editor though. And find a publisher but whatever. This is all still speculation. I do have other work in front of me currently. How to tank
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:05:00 - [48] - Quote A lot of people would have to be involved though...cause you'd have to start at the beginning. I'm talking about back stories from The Entropy Virus when they were rivals with ROFL. Why would that be important? Because STB was in Entropy and they ended up teaming up with Zion and going to war with ROFL. Then there is Betamax and the collapse of Betamax which ultimately led to the formation of the Imperfects. Someone would have to get in contact with Sha Clone and SI...first season could end with Imps defeating SI (1st 16v16 tourney) painting Imps as the bad guys. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:06:00 - [49] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: I'll have to get permission of CCP. If everything turns out well, I'll do it. Will have to hire a producer and editor though. And find a publisher but whatever. This is all still speculation. I do have other work in front of me currently. Absolutely....copy that. If I had the resources and talent, I would absolutely do it myself. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:06:00 - [50] - Quote I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing.

Maximus Mobius 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:16:00 - [51] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. How to tank
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:31:00 - [52] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity.
Maximus Mobius 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:42:00 - [53] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. If you can, by all means. How to tank
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:50:00 - [54] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. I'm going to make an observation you may or may not appreciate but it's for your benefit. You seem like you have the ability and creativity to accomplish many different things, but you do nothing. You claim to not be a leader and yet know how people should be led. Sounds to me like you are at war with yourself and what you want. Why not actually put your devices out there and see how they fair? You are only knocking yourself out as a contender by doing nothing and it kind of gets annoying to hear all this product you have without actually seeing the merchandise. Because obviously if you have something that is great, we all want to see it and support you.
Maximus Mobius 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:53:00 - [55] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. I'm going to make an observation you may or may not appreciate but it's for your benefit. You seem like you have the ability and creativity to accomplish many different things, but you do nothing. You claim to not be a leader and yet know how people should be led. Sounds to me like you are at war with yourself and what you want. Why not actually put your devices out there and see how they fair? You are only knocking yourself out as a contender by doing nothing and it kind of gets annoying to hear all this product you have without actually seeing the merchandise. Because obviously if you have something that is great, we all want to see it and support you. He was a pretty successful CEO for a time until sh*t hit the fan for him. How to tank
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 05:57:00 - [56] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. I'm going to make an observation you may or may not appreciate but it's for your benefit. You seem like you have the ability and creativity to accomplish many different things, but you do nothing. You claim to not be a leader and yet know how people should be led. Sounds to me like you are at war with yourself and what you want. Why not actually put your devices out there and see how they fair? You are only knocking yourself out as a contender by doing nothing and it kind of gets annoying to hear all this product you have without actually seeing the merchandise. Because obviously if you have something that is great, we all want to see it and support you. He was a pretty successful CEO for a time until sh*t hit the fan for him. I was not referring to that, first of all. Secondly, when was SoTa CEO?
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:02:00 - [57] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. I'm going to make an observation you may or may not appreciate but it's for your benefit. You seem like you have the ability and creativity to accomplish many different things, but you do nothing. You claim to not be a leader and yet know how people should be led. Sounds to me like you are at war with yourself and what you want. Why not actually put your devices out there and see how they fair? You are only knocking yourself out as a contender by doing nothing and it kind of gets annoying to hear all this product you have without actually seeing the merchandise. Because obviously if you have something that is great, we all want to see it and support you. Sounds like you need to visit the anime thread. You'll find I've been doing quite a bit, it just isn't Dust related. I've given up on Dust, or helping the community, though i relapse from time to time out of habit. And, i may of worded myself poorly, but if I had clips, as in, I can't record, then i could do something with them, add in audio, special effects, etc, and create something like a "History of Dust, where we ****** up, and why it's not our fault." I'd especially need footages of Arirana's melee glitch, and score board screen shots of Teamplayers while they're still in EoN. I believe Kain, if he's still willing to talk to me after I called him out, had a site with a lot of footage Imperfects kept for training purposes. I would also need a clip of the DNS pod cast, to share with everyone the exact details what caused that to kaput. Then i'd need some score boards from OH, PX1, and other groups who have tried to cause war, winning or not. The only info i lack are the smaller corps, such as Cap Acq when they first started, or corps who died before i could get to them, like PFBHz, or Hailstorm.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:04:00 - [58] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: I was not referring to that, first of all. Secondly, when was SoTa CEO? Heaven's Lost Property, CCP killed us with Fanfest 2014. #NeverForget
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:06:00 - [59] - Quote btw Ayuzawa, people have specific styles of writing and relating to others. And I'm just sayin' you sound like Black Ice. Not many people inject professionalism in there posts when talking to others, or maybe I should just say you speak too properly for a forum goer around here. I can count after 4 years on one hand how many people type as you do, and only 2 of them still remain. Silver, and Black. And since Silver has a more laid back approach, i'm going to guess, again, your Black Ice. ^_^
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:25:00 - [60] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I was not referring to that, first of all. Secondly, when was SoTa CEO? Heaven's Lost Property, CCP killed us with Fanfest 2014. #NeverForget Actually, if I'm up on my DUST history correctly (Which I am), you were not the original CEO of Heavens Lost Property. When the original CEO (B1ack ice) was unavailable in-game due to real life family emergency the position was agreed to be taken over by you, Blaz3 X, Anon Illuminati. You did not take CEO, you handed it off to Anon, who handed it off to Blaze when Anon went off to paint his walls and play other games, until B1ack ice came back after fanfest and retrieved the title from Kain since no one in leadership was active in-game. And, prior to that, Heimdallr69 was CEO of Ancient Ecchi, which was the temporary Corp until you could find a permanent name for the Anime Corporation representing Anime Empire. You were only ever actually CEO of HvLP before it's final demise after B1ack ice and you attempted to get it up and running again for the second time. I will say this: it sounds to me like your intent was to be CEO from the beginning and you should have made that clear. I am confident you would have had less problems had you done so as far as HvLP's conclusion goes. Any gaps in this? Did you initially hold CEO for a time between B1ack's departure and the position being passed to Anon?

Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:34:00 - [61] - Quote Then again, I am under the impression that one who holds a title or position should be the one fulfilling the required duties of said position.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:46:00 - [62] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I was not referring to that, first of all. Secondly, when was SoTa CEO? Heaven's Lost Property, CCP killed us with Fanfest 2014. #NeverForget Actually, if I'm up on my DUST history correctly (Which I am), you were not the original CEO of Heavens Lost Property. When the original CEO (B1ack ice) was unavailable in-game due to real life family emergency the position was agreed to be taken over by you, Blaz3 X, Anon Illuminati. You did not take CEO, you handed it off to Anon, who handed it off to Blaze when Anon went off to paint his walls and play other games, until B1ack ice came back after fanfest and retrieved the title from Kain since no one in leadership was active in-game. And, prior to that, Heimdallr69 was CEO of Ancient Ecchi, which was the temporary Corp until you could find a permanent name for the Anime Corporation representing Anime Empire. You were only ever actually CEO of HvLP before it's final demise after B1ack ice and you attempted to get it up and running again for the second time. I will say this: it sounds to me like your intent was to be CEO from the beginning and you should have made that clear. I am confident you would have had less problems had you done so as far as HvLP's conclusion goes. Any gaps in this? Did you initially hold CEO for a time between B1ack's departure and the position being passed to Anon? You're definitely Black Ice. Especially if you're reading intent from a single line. And you're absolutely right, I should of just taken all the responsibility, work load, and **** for myself, rather then trying to get several people with different abilities to work together. All it did was create underserved ego's and feeling of accomplishment they didn't deserve.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:49:00 - [63] - Quote so when you going to drop the viel, black? And how come I never see you anymore?
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 06:55:00 - [64] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I was not referring to that, first of all. Secondly, when was SoTa CEO? Heaven's Lost Property, CCP killed us with Fanfest 2014. #NeverForget Actually, if I'm up on my DUST history correctly (Which I am), you were not the original CEO of Heavens Lost Property. When the original CEO (B1ack ice) was unavailable in-game due to real life family emergency the position was agreed to be taken over by you, Blaz3 X, Anon Illuminati. You did not take CEO, you handed it off to Anon, who handed it off to Blaze when Anon went off to paint his walls and play other games, until B1ack ice came back after fanfest and retrieved the title from Kain since no one in leadership was active in-game. And, prior to that, Heimdallr69 was CEO of Ancient Ecchi, which was the temporary Corp until you could find a permanent name for the Anime Corporation representing Anime Empire. You were only ever actually CEO of HvLP before it's final demise after B1ack ice and you attempted to get it up and running again for the second time. I will say this: it sounds to me like your intent was to be CEO from the beginning and you should have made that clear. I am confident you would have had less problems had you done so as far as HvLP's conclusion goes. Any gaps in this? Did you initially hold CEO for a time between B1ack's departure and the position being passed to Anon? You're definitely Black Ice. Especially if you're reading intent from a single line. And you're absolutely right, I should of just taken all the responsibility, work load, and **** for myself, rather then trying to get several people with different abilities to work together. All it did was create underserved ego's and feeling of accomplishment they didn't deserve. I think that you read too much into things you should not read into. No one you mentioned feels any accomplishment whatsoever about anything regarding HvLP, especially when they were not there to get anything done. You did most of the legwork and you pulled strings. Don't accuse people you don't really know or understand apparently based off of absolutely nothing. These are the simple facts and I'm making observations. If we are taking a trip through memory lane to get to the history around here then some of us are going to have to maintain some semblance of humility. In order to run a corporation, you are right; it takes many different personalities and characters with different abilities given a chance to reach their potentials and so every success and failure is not on one person but on everyone. That is what teamwork is.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:12:00 - [65] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I was not referring to that, first of all. Secondly, when was SoTa CEO? Heaven's Lost Property, CCP killed us with Fanfest 2014. #NeverForget Actually, if I'm up on my DUST history correctly (Which I am), you were not the original CEO of Heavens Lost Property. When the original CEO (B1ack ice) was unavailable in-game due to real life family emergency the position was agreed to be taken over by you, Blaz3 X, Anon Illuminati. You did not take CEO, you handed it off to Anon, who handed it off to Blaze when Anon went off to paint his walls and play other games, until B1ack ice came back after fanfest and retrieved the title from Kain since no one in leadership was active in-game. And, prior to that, Heimdallr69 was CEO of Ancient Ecchi, which was the temporary Corp until you could find a permanent name for the Anime Corporation representing Anime Empire. You were only ever actually CEO of HvLP before it's final demise after B1ack ice and you attempted to get it up and running again for the second time. I will say this: it sounds to me like your intent was to be CEO from the beginning and you should have made that clear. I am confident you would have had less problems had you done so as far as HvLP's conclusion goes. Any gaps in this? Did you initially hold CEO for a time between B1ack's departure and the position being passed to Anon? You're definitely Black Ice. Especially if you're reading intent from a single line. And you're absolutely right, I should of just taken all the responsibility, work load, and **** for myself, rather then trying to get several people with different abilities to work together. All it did was create underserved ego's and feeling of accomplishment they didn't deserve. I think that you read too much into things you should not read into. No one you mentioned feels any accomplishment whatsoever about anything regarding HvLP, especially when they were not there to get anything done. You did most of the legwork and you pulled strings. Don't accuse people you don't really know or understand apparently based off of absolutely nothing. These are the simple facts and I'm making observations. If we are taking a trip through memory lane to get to the history around here then some of us are going to have to maintain some semblance of humility. In order to run a corporation, you are right; it takes many different personalities and characters with different abilities given a chance to reach their potentials and so every success and failure is not on one person but on everyone. That is what teamwork is. I'm a little lost here, seems i'm hitting unknown nerves. Must be the Black Ice in you. Regardless, you're missing the point, I didn't want the work load of CEO. So I pawned it off on someone else. It was that simple. Some people can handle being on all day and dealing with others - I can't. I need my own time, and i need my own time to be longer then the you time. <3 That's my idea of 'teamwork' someone making up for your weaknesses who has the same goals as you. And just a quick FYI - others may of held CEO, but I had control of the stocks. At any given time I could of removed Black or anyone else from CEO and taken it myself. And if you want humility, go to GD. The reason I have the knowledge I have is because I'm aggressive, got involved, and was a part of the conflicts. And if a video of Dust is ever made, Humility won't ever be a part of it. As it has no place in Dust. HTFU, Adapt or Die. Only the strong survive. etc etc. And let me end this by insulting you, you're an idiot. Saying I read into you when you wrote quite a bit in comparison to you reading my apparent motives from a single line? The hypocrisy in this statement is more then I can handle with a straight face, lol.
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:18:00 - [66] - Quote I really don't care about whatever you just said. Perhaps you will reread what I wrote and realize you are the idiot when you understood the complexity it took to turn something extremely simple into whatever THAT was. Paranoia? You really should get over that. Also, I shall end this with complimenting you. You have great taste in music.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:20:00 - [67] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: I really don't care about whatever you just said. Perhaps you will reread what I wrote and realize you are the idiot when you understood the complexity it took to turn something extremely simple into whatever THAT was. Paranoia? You really should get over that. Also, I shall end this with complimenting you. You have great taste in music. :) yea, you're definitely Black Ice, lmao.
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:21:00 - [68] - Quote By the way, insecurity is a weakness; Humility is a strength. Large difference between the two and only one can be played in a winning hand.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:25:00 - [69] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: By the way, insecurity is a weakness; Humility is a strength. Large difference between the two and only one can be played in a winning hand. again, take it to GD. It's not a strength, it's a sign of character that has no meaning in a video game about shooting you in the face. You can be humble all you want, but if you suck you suck. You'll by on the losing or winning side depending how good your team is, this has been proven over, and over, and over. it only had a time in place when meeting with others to get something done, and I have no reason to believe you're capable of anything, so why should I show humility? because you're a person online who deserves respect? I bet the blue berries in game feel the same way when I TK them. Earn yo place then ask for humility, peasant.
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:28:00 - [70] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: By the way, insecurity is a weakness; Humility is a strength. Large difference between the two and only one can be played in a winning hand. again, take it to GD. It's not a strength, it's a sign of character that has no meaning in a video game about shooting you in the face. You can be humble all you want, but if you suck you suck. You'll by on the losing or winning side depending how good your team is, this has been proven over, and over, and over. it only had a time in place when meeting with others to get something done, and I have no reason to believe you're capable of anything, so why should I show humility? because you're a person online who deserves respect? I bet the blue berries in game feel the same way when I TK them. Earn yo place then ask for humility, peasant. Are you okay mentally? I'm not going to outright call you dumb or stupid. That would be rude. "It only had a time and place when meeting with others to get something done" -SoTa PoP Why on Earth would I apply humility in any other situation. DUH, that's what I was referring to. Think harder please...

Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:32:00 - [71] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: By the way, insecurity is a weakness; Humility is a strength. Large difference between the two and only one can be played in a winning hand. again, take it to GD. It's not a strength, it's a sign of character that has no meaning in a video game about shooting you in the face. You can be humble all you want, but if you suck you suck. You'll by on the losing or winning side depending how good your team is, this has been proven over, and over, and over. it only had a time in place when meeting with others to get something done, and I have no reason to believe you're capable of anything, so why should I show humility? because you're a person online who deserves respect? I bet the blue berries in game feel the same way when I TK them. Earn yo place then ask for humility, peasant. Are you okay mentally? I'm not going to outright call you dumb or stupid. That would be rude. "It only had a time and place when meeting with others to get something done" -SoTa PoP Why on Earth would I apply humility in any other situation. DUH, that's what I was referring to. Think harder please... You're both stupid, and dumb. Maybe even mentally challenged. Oh, wait, I know! You're Aeon Amadi! CPM using alt's to hide there tags <3 Feel free to use humility, I'm sure lots of people will like you. They won't be the people who help you win your games, but hey, people will like you! lol
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:35:00 - [72] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: By the way, insecurity is a weakness; Humility is a strength. Large difference between the two and only one can be played in a winning hand. again, take it to GD. It's not a strength, it's a sign of character that has no meaning in a video game about shooting you in the face. You can be humble all you want, but if you suck you suck. You'll by on the losing or winning side depending how good your team is, this has been proven over, and over, and over. it only had a time in place when meeting with others to get something done, and I have no reason to believe you're capable of anything, so why should I show humility? because you're a person online who deserves respect? I bet the blue berries in game feel the same way when I TK them. Earn yo place then ask for humility, peasant. Are you okay mentally? I'm not going to outright call you dumb or stupid. That would be rude. "It only had a time and place when meeting with others to get something done" -SoTa PoP Why on Earth would I apply humility in any other situation. DUH, that's what I was referring to. Think harder please... You're both stupid, and dumb. Maybe even mentally challenged. Oh, wait, I know! You're Aeon Amadi! CPM using alt's to hide there tags <3 Feel free to use humility, I'm sure lots of people will like you. They won't be the people who help you win your games, but hey, people will like you! lol My tags are just heavenly! You're jealous.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:39:00 - [73] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: By the way, insecurity is a weakness; Humility is a strength. Large difference between the two and only one can be played in a winning hand. again, take it to GD. It's not a strength, it's a sign of character that has no meaning in a video game about shooting you in the face. You can be humble all you want, but if you suck you suck. You'll by on the losing or winning side depending how good your team is, this has been proven over, and over, and over. it only had a time in place when meeting with others to get something done, and I have no reason to believe you're capable of anything, so why should I show humility? because you're a person online who deserves respect? I bet the blue berries in game feel the same way when I TK them. Earn yo place then ask for humility, peasant. Are you okay mentally? I'm not going to outright call you dumb or stupid. That would be rude. "It only had a time and place when meeting with others to get something done" -SoTa PoP Why on Earth would I apply humility in any other situation. DUH, that's what I was referring to. Think harder please... You're both stupid, and dumb. Maybe even mentally challenged. Oh, wait, I know! You're Aeon Amadi! CPM using alt's to hide there tags <3 Feel free to use humility, I'm sure lots of people will like you. They won't be the people who help you win your games, but hey, people will like you! lol My tags are just heavenly! You're jealous. At one in time I may of been, but now it's a cursed title. If you really are Aeon, lemme take a second and say you're actually a pretty damn good CPM, despite my bitching, lol. But back on subject: you suck, blah blah blah, I rule, blah blah blah, Rampage loves men, blah blah blah, and jesus never loved children, he wasn't catholic.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:44:00 - [74] - Quote between me, roman, cuse, Vice and 1 guy who knows of the smaller corps situation, that should be enough knowledge of the politics of dust that spans 4 years. I have all the info up until 3 months after FF2014, when Roman came into power. I was gone for nearly a year, came back, fought Romans corp, mostly on the forums, was a lot of fun, i miss you Roman. So someone would need to fill in that large missing gap in my intel. and obviously Roman would be the best choice.
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 619	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:49:00 - [75] - Quote Oh not this..Heim can stay out of this..as for Dubbs I like the idea and I'll see if I can't remember anything important CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Ayuzawa 15	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:51:00 - [76] - Quote SoTa, you really don't have much tenacity, do you?
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 07:59:00 - [77] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: SoTa, you really don't have much tenacity, do you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgIqecROs5M lol But on a serious note, I can understand why you'd think that way of me. I wish I could understand myself better to explain it, but it's like having 3 voices in your head all talking different things, so you never really commit to one thing, because there's too many options or ways of looking at things. I'm fickle in this regard, appearing to bounce all over the place.
Ayuzawa 16	Posted - 2015.10.25 08:20:00 - [78] - Quote Oh my God I just got the "Jesus never loved children he wasn't Catholic" joke.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 09:05:00 - [79] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Oh my God I just got the "Jesus never loved children he wasn't Catholic" joke. Thanks, I haven't had a good reaction to a joke in a while around here, lol.
Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.25 14:54:00 - [80] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: between me, roman, cuse, Vice and 1 guy who knows of the smaller corps situation, that should be enough knowledge of the politics of dust that spans 4 years. I have all the info up until 3 months after FF2014, when Roman came into power. I was gone for nearly a year, came back, fought Romans corp, mostly on the forums, was a lot of fun, i miss you Roman. So someone would need to fill in that large missing gap in my intel. and obviously Roman would be the best choice. Yes I would love to see romans delusions wrote down into a book. Dust User for CPM 3.

DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 623	Posted - 2015.10.25 16:23:00 - [81] - Quote Dust User wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: between me, roman, cuse, Vice and 1 guy who knows of the smaller corps situation, that should be enough knowledge of the politics of dust that spans 4 years. I have all the info up until 3 months after FF2014, when Roman came into power. I was gone for nearly a year, came back, fought Romans corp, mostly on the forums, was a lot of fun, i miss you Roman. So someone would need to fill in that large missing gap in my intel. and obviously Roman would be the best choice. Yes I would love to see romans delusions wrote down into a book. Can we get a video of him explaining his point of view? CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 16:29:00 - [82] - Quote Dust User wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: between me, roman, cuse, Vice and 1 guy who knows of the smaller corps situation, that should be enough knowledge of the politics of dust that spans 4 years. I have all the info up until 3 months after FF2014, when Roman came into power. I was gone for nearly a year, came back, fought Romans corp, mostly on the forums, was a lot of fun, i miss you Roman. So someone would need to fill in that large missing gap in my intel. and obviously Roman would be the best choice. Yes I would love to see romans delusions wrote down into a book. he might embellish his and his friends roles a bit, but I wouldn't call it delusional.
Immortal John Ripper 29	Posted - 2015.10.25 18:36:00 - [83] - Quote Will I be getting a chapter?? If not then it's cool, send me a copy anyways and I'll put it in the bathroom. I'll read it eventually. I leave it all, to the strongest.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 18:38:00 - [84] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Will I be getting a chapter?? If not then it's cool, send me a copy anyways and I'll put it in the bathroom. I'll read it eventually. Sure, when I start talking about forum influence. Or when I start talking about how you lied on behalf of PX1 to get mercs, lol.
Immortal John Ripper 29	Posted - 2015.10.25 18:56:00 - [85] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Will I be getting a chapter?? If not then it's cool, send me a copy anyways and I'll put it in the bathroom. I'll read it eventually. Sure, when I start talking about forum influence. Or when I start talking about how you lied on behalf of PX1 to get mercs, lol. hell yea I am a damned good liar. Like when I convinced everyone I had like 15 billion. Don't forget to put that part in. You already know the whole story from being there hahah. If I can love myself and feel good, then you can do it too Ripley Riley. No need to be ashamed.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 19:03:00 - [86] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Will I be getting a chapter?? If not then it's cool, send me a copy anyways and I'll put it in the bathroom. I'll read it eventually. Sure, when I start talking about forum influence. Or when I start talking about how you lied on behalf of PX1 to get mercs, lol. hell yea I am a damned good liar. Like when I convinced everyone I had like 15 billion. Don't forget to put that part in. You already know the whole story from being there hahah. Lol, I remember well, that's when your legend for screwing over the evil TP started. xD
Immortal John Ripper 29	Posted - 2015.10.25 19:09:00 - [87] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Will I be getting a chapter?? If not then it's cool, send me a copy anyways and I'll put it in the bathroom. I'll read it eventually. Sure, when I start talking about forum influence. Or when I start talking about how you lied on behalf of PX1 to get mercs, lol. hell yea I am a damned good liar. Like when I convinced everyone I had like 15 billion. Don't forget to put that part in. You already know the whole story from being there hahah. Lol, I remember well, that's when your legend for screwing over the evil TP started. xD The legend of a hero nobody needed or wanted, but a hero nonetheless. If I can love myself and feel good, then you can do it too Ripley Riley. No need to be ashamed.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property 749	Posted - 2015.10.25 20:14:00 - [88] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: so when you going to drop the viel, black? And how come I never see you anymore? Everyone sees whatever they want to see. Secondly, I essentially deleted everyone and logged out of Skype. I didn't block anyone though.
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 627	Posted - 2015.10.25 20:37:00 - [89] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Will I be getting a chapter?? If not then it's cool, send me a copy anyways and I'll put it in the bathroom. I'll read it eventually. Sure, when I start talking about forum influence. Or when I start talking about how you lied on behalf of PX1 to get mercs, lol. hell yea I am a damned good liar. Like when I convinced everyone I had like 15 billion. Don't forget to put that part in. You already know the whole story from being there hahah. You stole 40b from TP CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 20:44:00 - [90] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. who is Ayuzawa?? "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here

DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 627	Posted - 2015.10.25 20:46:00 - [91] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. who is Ayuzawa?? No one important CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 20:47:00 - [92] - Quote I don't know who Ayuwaza is but it is definitely female "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:00:00 - [93] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I don't know who Ayuwaza is but it is definitely female LMAO It's a male, I won't go into detail, but this thread does reveal his identity, clearly, lol.
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:02:00 - [94] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I don't know who Ayuwaza is but it is definitely female LMAO It's a male, I won't go into detail, but this thread does reveal his identity, clearly, lol. lies "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:02:00 - [95] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: so when you going to drop the viel, black? And how come I never see you anymore? Everyone sees whatever they want to see. Secondly, I essentially deleted everyone and logged out of Skype. I didn't block anyone though. None of my messages are getting through then, and you're never on Skype. Last comment from you was you were going to add me with new account - then nada.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:04:00 - [96] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Will I be getting a chapter?? If not then it's cool, send me a copy anyways and I'll put it in the bathroom. I'll read it eventually. Sure, when I start talking about forum influence. Or when I start talking about how you lied on behalf of PX1 to get mercs, lol. hell yea I am a damned good liar. Like when I convinced everyone I had like 15 billion. Don't forget to put that part in. You already know the whole story from being there hahah. You stole 40b from TP It was actually 25bil. What happened was while we were chilling In dust, Cubs was just kinda trolling the community, calling them sheep, etc, and it lead to wanting to pull a prank on the forums. John took this like a fish in water, and made a post "betraying" tp, stealing 25billion, and then leaving the corp. The forums called him a hero, jealous of TP's massive wealth, lol.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:05:00 - [97] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I don't know who Ayuwaza is but it is definitely female LMAO It's a male, I won't go into detail, but this thread does reveal his identity, clearly, lol. lies It may be a redirect, but either way it matters little, we don't get enough posters around here as it is.
Ayuzawa 18	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:21:00 - [98] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: I could also work on something as well. I was tossing the idea of a book prior to this thread's existence. It would be a great addition to my portfolio and I'm sure would also knock a project out for this school year for writing. By all means. Take the wheel if you have the resource to do it. Which is the entire problem of letting a person who has been a part of major corps do the writing. If i had footage, I'd just make a video. I actually already have several scripts written up about 'dusts' history, with some decent footage, special effects, a little movie editing magic - I could not only tell a story, but re-create the moments. But I'm still amateur, barely working with Audacity. who is Ayuzawa?? No one important Well! You're not being very nice!
Ayuzawa 18	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:23:00 - [99] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I don't know who Ayuwaza is but it is definitely female No one knows who I am. I'm quite enjoying the anonymity. As far as the female accusation goes, my mercenary has no breasts, hips, or any other womanly attributes. Just look at my character: <======== Blue, not red!
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property 749	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:25:00 - [100] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: B1ack ice wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: so when you going to drop the viel, black? And how come I never see you anymore? Everyone sees whatever they want to see. Secondly, I essentially deleted everyone and logged out of Skype. I didn't block anyone though. None of my messages are getting through then, and you're never on Skype. Last comment from you was you were going to add me with new account - then nada. I will shoot you a request and I did respond to your PSN message last night. If you sent any messages to me, this is the first I'm hearing about it. I have received nothing on Skype.

Ayuzawa 18	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:33:00 - [101] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I don't know who Ayuwaza is but it is definitely female LMAO It's a male, I won't go into detail, but this thread does reveal his identity, clearly, lol. lies It may be a redirect, but either way it matters little, we don't get enough posters around here as it is. I'm curious why anyone is still posting on these forums and holding onto this game for dear life? Even the past vets do not take this game as seriously as the rest of you have.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:51:00 - [102] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I don't know who Ayuwaza is but it is definitely female LMAO It's a male, I won't go into detail, but this thread does reveal his identity, clearly, lol. lies It may be a redirect, but either way it matters little, we don't get enough posters around here as it is. I'm curious why anyone is still posting on these forums and holding onto this game for dear life? Even the past vets do not take this game as seriously as the rest of you have. Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore.
Ayuzawa 18	Posted - 2015.10.25 21:58:00 - [103] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.25 22:04:00 - [104] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. I also don't really have much time for video gaming with my current schedule and maybe it has to do with responsibilities and becoming an adult, but I don't really enjoy video games that much anymore. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do. Everyone here would disagree, we want to play Dust, it's just kinda unplayable right now. We're PC players, pubs frustrate us, players not giving there all and acting they're a part of our cut throat universe takes us out of the experience, which si why we treat them like peasants. And right now PC lags out, doesn't start, and is just plain broken. I doubt there's even 2 active PCing corps right now daily. If the PC servers ever got fixed, a lot of us would hop back on to melt faces once again, but that lag is UNBEARABLE.
Ayuzawa 18	Posted - 2015.10.25 22:20:00 - [105] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. I also don't really have much time for video gaming with my current schedule and maybe it has to do with responsibilities and becoming an adult, but I don't really enjoy video games that much anymore. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do. Everyone here would disagree, we want to play Dust, it's just kinda unplayable right now. We're PC players, pubs frustrate us, players not giving there all and acting they're a part of our cut throat universe takes us out of the experience, which si why we treat them like peasants. And right now PC lags out, doesn't start, and is just plain broken. I doubt there's even 2 active PCing corps right now daily. If the PC servers ever got fixed, a lot of us would hop back on to melt faces once again, but that lag is UNBEARABLE. Agreed. Last time I was on it was unbearable in pubs. I don't want to imagine what PC is like... As far as the game goes, you realize that it would need a lot of work to be fun again, right? It's not just game mechanics at this point. CCP has not had the greatest rep with DUST. They would probably need to recreate the same concept for a different game and cut ties with this one. There was not enough marketing, but the marketing it did have did hit home with more people than you'd think. There are many people who have actually tried the game and then immediately left because they hate it. Even though there are some "good" people left on here they are fewer and farther between than ever before. I, personally, would want to see the community and the in-game character content reset completely along with the game mechanics that are in desperate need of help being fixed. I would go on to explain why that would be the best course of action in any future that this game has, but I request you think about it for yourself and get back to me. Perhaps we can have a good debate going and I'll push/explain my point.
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 628	Posted - 2015.10.25 22:25:00 - [106] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. I also don't really have much time for video gaming with my current schedule and maybe it has to do with responsibilities and becoming an adult, but I don't really enjoy video games that much anymore. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do. Everyone here would disagree, we want to play Dust, it's just kinda unplayable right now. We're PC players, pubs frustrate us, players not giving there all and acting they're a part of our cut throat universe takes us out of the experience, which si why we treat them like peasants. And right now PC lags out, doesn't start, and is just plain broken. I doubt there's even 2 active PCing corps right now daily. If the PC servers ever got fixed, a lot of us would hop back on to melt faces once again, but that lag is UNBEARABLE. Agreed. Last time I was on it was unbearable in pubs. I don't want to imagine what PC is like... As far as the game goes, you realize that it would need a lot of work to be fun again, right? It's not just game mechanics at this point. CCP has not had the greatest rep with DUST. They would probably need to recreate the same concept for a different game and cut ties with this one. There was not enough marketing, but the marketing it did have did hit home with more people than you'd think. There are many people who have actually tried the game and then immediately left because they hate it. Even though there are some "good" people left on here they are fewer and farther between than ever before. I, personally, would want to see the community and the in-game character content reset completely along with the game mechanics that are in desperate need of help being fixed. I would go on to explain why that would be the best course of action in any future that this game has, but I request you think about it for yourself and get back to me. Perhaps we can have a good debate going and I'll push/explain my point. I am one of the oldest players and tbh I'd be fine with a full reset as long as it's ported and I keep my name CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.26 02:49:00 - [107] - Quote I'm still playing Dust because what is the alternative? "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.26 02:52:00 - [108] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I'm still playing Dust because what is the alternative? Better matchmaking? Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.26 04:43:00 - [109] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. I also don't really have much time for video gaming with my current schedule and maybe it has to do with responsibilities and becoming an adult, but I don't really enjoy video games that much anymore. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do. Everyone here would disagree, we want to play Dust, it's just kinda unplayable right now. We're PC players, pubs frustrate us, players not giving there all and acting they're a part of our cut throat universe takes us out of the experience, which si why we treat them like peasants. And right now PC lags out, doesn't start, and is just plain broken. I doubt there's even 2 active PCing corps right now daily. If the PC servers ever got fixed, a lot of us would hop back on to melt faces once again, but that lag is UNBEARABLE. Agreed. Last time I was on it was unbearable in pubs. I don't want to imagine what PC is like... As far as the game goes, you realize that it would need a lot of work to be fun again, right? It's not just game mechanics at this point. CCP has not had the greatest rep with DUST. They would probably need to recreate the same concept for a different game and cut ties with this one. There was not enough marketing, but the marketing it did have did hit home with more people than you'd think. There are many people who have actually tried the game and then immediately left because they hate it. Even though there are some "good" people left on here they are fewer and farther between than ever before. I, personally, would want to see the community and the in-game character content reset completely along with the game mechanics that are in desperate need of help being fixed. I would go on to explain why that would be the best course of action in any future that this game has, but I request you think about it for yourself and get back to me. Perhaps we can have a good debate going and I'll push/explain my point. Sorry, before I could get into this I needed to finish writing a script. Rep is regardless to the game itself, we being here is proof of that, word of mouth will always be the best advertisement for your game, and if Legion is stable day one, they're likely to get praised. The mechanics of this game are excellent - enthralling, even, it just isn't stable. I'm honestly for a full reset, as a competitive player, I know I can get everything back, and I will troll twice as hard when I'm, again, stepping on your toes, doing and being more for my team and corp then less willing and able players. So I have no fear of CCP's decision making in this regard, but my opinion is a reset will be necessary if you want to make new people feel welcomed. But 2 years silence, it's likely Legion may have PvE or a friendlier side to enable an easier going NPE - something CCP has been working on for a long time, has a lot of models for, but never used them. Legion is a great chance to do so. And if this is so, they may as well let Vets continue to feel like Vets and give newer players something to aim for without being overwhelmed by us. As far as changing mechanics - PC needs deletion. and RDV's need resigned. Their map algorithms need reassessing, and they need to rethink what it means to integrate a PvP intensive game into a market filled with Tycoons. BPO's need killing off, and we'll have to see how Power Cores are. Other then that, I wouldn't want CCP to delete anything else, just build upon what's here.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.26 04:48:00 - [110] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I'm still playing Dust because what is the alternative? honestly? No game has chat channels, thus Dust is the number 1 social game on consoles of all time. Put that on PS4, where the only other games like that have a monthly pay wall, and this will be free - it'll be a hit just for people wanting to group up with more then 7 people. Dust as it is is used as only a team speak device by a lot of players, who talk on Dust, then switch input, and play on PS4. I know I do this, and i know several others. It's this social platform that has enabled EVERYTHING we love today, so I hope whatever happens to Legion, the channels never leave. That's the one thing I will never forgive CCP if they got rid of.

Ayuzawa 20	Posted - 2015.10.26 19:31:00 - [111] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I'm still playing Dust because what is the alternative? honestly? No game has chat channels, thus Dust is the number 1 social game on consoles of all time. Put that on PS4, where the only other games like that have a monthly pay wall, and this will be free - it'll be a hit just for people wanting to group up with more then 7 people. Dust as it is is used as only a team speak device by a lot of players, who talk on Dust, then switch input, and play on PS4. I know I do this, and i know several others. It's this social platform that has enabled EVERYTHING we love today, so I hope whatever happens to Legion, the channels never leave. That's the one thing I will never forgive CCP if they got rid of. Agreed. No other gaming environment is quite on par with CCP's DUST and EVE. Even the games that you can get a similar experience with socially, that you have to pay for, the design/layout of everything just doesn't flow; it's mediocre and I find it either too easy to navigate or not easy to navigate at all.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.26 19:33:00 - [112] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I'm still playing Dust because what is the alternative? honestly? No game has chat channels, thus Dust is the number 1 social game on consoles of all time. Put that on PS4, where the only other games like that have a monthly pay wall, and this will be free - it'll be a hit just for people wanting to group up with more then 7 people. Dust as it is is used as only a team speak device by a lot of players, who talk on Dust, then switch input, and play on PS4. I know I do this, and i know several others. It's this social platform that has enabled EVERYTHING we love today, so I hope whatever happens to Legion, the channels never leave. That's the one thing I will never forgive CCP if they got rid of. Agreed. No other gaming environment is quite on par with CCP's DUST and EVE. Even the games that you can get a similar experience with socially, that you have to pay for, the design/layout of everything just doesn't flow; it's mediocre and I find it either too easy to navigate or not easy to navigate at all. I agree, no other game I will ever play will ever match the experience I had here. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Ayuzawa 20	Posted - 2015.10.26 19:40:00 - [113] - Quote A full reset would give the accomplished Vets of the game something to work towards/for again and would make the gaming experience far more inviting for both new players and old to be a part of; revitalizing the community. I would also vote for the ability to reset all character content, including name, race, faction, etc. For those of you who are not aware, (I will use Heimdallr69 as an example since he specifically mentioned this): If you were to biomass your toon you would immediately be able to create a new character with the same exact name and specs as your original. So, if everything would be reset you would not lose out on the name if you chose to reinstate it. This game is mainly social, even the in-game environment is run off of social interaction. Wars are started and ended with people. So, raising the community from the dead would be the first and most important step in saving DUST514 (on par with fixing obvious broken game mechanics, namely lag) and then CCP should move onto getting more game content and fixing the smaller problems.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.26 19:44:00 - [114] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: A full reset would give the accomplished Vets of the game something to work towards/for again and would make the gaming experience far more inviting for both new players and old to be a part of; revitalizing the community. I would also vote for the ability to reset all character content, including name, race, faction, etc. For those of you who are not aware, (I will use Heimdallr69 as an example since he specifically mentioned this): If you were to biomass your toon you would immediately be able to create a new character with the same exact name and specs as your original. So, if everything would be reset you would not lose out on the name if you chose to reinstate it. This game is mainly social, even the in-game environment is run off of social interaction. Wars are started and ended with people. So, raising the community from the dead would be the first and most important step in saving DUST514 (on par with fixing obvious broken game mechanics, namely lag) and then CCP should move onto getting more game content and fixing the smaller problems. Its unnessasry depending on the volume of players. This is why Match Making exists, so new players don't get stomped by old. But let's put us all in the same playground, with the same stats - i'm sure some would raise with us, but it's the same song and dance, but now we have the edge of having played this game 3-4 years longer. The experience will feel much the same to them as it is now, rather then separating us from the start. The only difference is if they dedicate along side us, they have a chance to keep up.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.26 22:27:00 - [115] - Quote I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running.
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.27 02:01:00 - [116] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. There are about 30 people total that would be needed. 15 for the begging and 15 for the end. Because there was a huge split in ages of Dust. .before and after fan fest Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.27 02:15:00 - [117] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. There are about 30 people total that would be needed. 15 for the begging and 15 for the end. Because there was a huge split in ages of Dust. .before and after fan fest I know about a few events from one perspective. There a tons of people( under 100... This is dust that we are talking about) that could contribute. Roman has his fair share of stories to tell. Of this I am sure.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.10.27 02:16:00 - [118] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. There are about 30 people total that would be needed. 15 for the begging and 15 for the end. Because there was a huge split in ages of Dust. .before and after fan fest I happened to be around for both of them... but to be honest, I don't know how well my input would be, seeing as I was pretty much peanut gallery material until I went to FA, and even then, I might still be peanut gallery. 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg I like whales
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.27 06:55:00 - [119] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. There are about 30 people total that would be needed. 15 for the begging and 15 for the end. Because there was a huge split in ages of Dust. .before and after fan fest Would probably need more than that. One can't ignore the wars and smaller battles fought by corps other than the more popular ones. It isn't as if Molden Heath is this massive area where you can only mention the news that hit the headlines. Everyone keeps talking only about TP, AE, FA.....but you can't forget Hellstorm, Imperfects, PFBHz, ROFL Alliance, Seraphim, STB, Zion, SyN, R*S, Ill Omens. I'm not familiar with D3lta Force's stories but at one time, they had the most number of mercenaries. I'm sure there is a story or two in there. They were in the Cronos/EoN war before they got decimated by Imps Guys have to remember....I'm not thinking of a simple broad retelling of Dust's history but a series based on Dust's history, if that makes sense. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.27 07:01:00 - [120] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. TP's rise to power could be an interesting tell. TeamPlayers is the probably the most interesting of them all, imo. TP was one of the most dominant forces seen in MH. What separates TP from every other dominant corp is that you never hear any of their places mentioned in most of the greatest of all times lists. I know some of the guys that are frequently listed joined TP at one time or another but that may have been after TP had established their mark. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here

Ayuzawa 20	Posted - 2015.10.27 18:55:00 - [121] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. TP's rise to power could be an interesting tell. TeamPlayers is the probably the most interesting of them all, imo. TP was one of the most dominant forces seen in MH. What separates TP from every other dominant corp is that you never hear any of their places mentioned in most of the greatest of all times lists. I know some of the guys that are frequently listed joined TP at one time or another but that may have been after TP had established their mark. Interesting. I know when I first started the game all anyone could talk about was the (hush, hush) Team Players corporation and the infamous Eon alliance.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.27 19:07:00 - [122] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. I also don't really have much time for video gaming with my current schedule and maybe it has to do with responsibilities and becoming an adult, but I don't really enjoy video games that much anymore. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do. Everyone here would disagree, we want to play Dust, it's just kinda unplayable right now. We're PC players, pubs frustrate us, players not giving there all and acting they're a part of our cut throat universe takes us out of the experience, which si why we treat them like peasants. And right now PC lags out, doesn't start, and is just plain broken. I doubt there's even 2 active PCing corps right now daily. If the PC servers ever got fixed, a lot of us would hop back on to melt faces once again, but that lag is UNBEARABLE. GD is really pissing me off with this ****. They don't want EVE: The FPS. The want COD: EVE. Lets make everyone a winner! Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Ayuzawa 20	Posted - 2015.10.27 19:24:00 - [123] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. I also don't really have much time for video gaming with my current schedule and maybe it has to do with responsibilities and becoming an adult, but I don't really enjoy video games that much anymore. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do. Everyone here would disagree, we want to play Dust, it's just kinda unplayable right now. We're PC players, pubs frustrate us, players not giving there all and acting they're a part of our cut throat universe takes us out of the experience, which si why we treat them like peasants. And right now PC lags out, doesn't start, and is just plain broken. I doubt there's even 2 active PCing corps right now daily. If the PC servers ever got fixed, a lot of us would hop back on to melt faces once again, but that lag is UNBEARABLE. GD is really pissing me off with this ****. They don't want EVE: The FPS. The want COD: EVE. Lets make everyone a winner! I enjoy playing Plants VS. Zombies and Supermarket Mania on my "phone" more than I do DUST.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.27 19:47:00 - [124] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Ayuzawa wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Besides Dubbs, the rest of us use the WR as our private forums to keep in touch, we had good times here, no reason to just move on and let it all go if we don't have too. There's still good, fun people here. I doubt anyone plays on Dust's own merits anymore. I can see that. I certainly have my own reasons for being here; being the fact that I did have friendships and met people on here I valued and there really isn't any other forums to go on and write. The layout for the different forums accessible online are not really laid out very well; the web designers could use some serious help. I also don't really have much time for video gaming with my current schedule and maybe it has to do with responsibilities and becoming an adult, but I don't really enjoy video games that much anymore. Besides that, I don't know about you all but I really don't feel inclined to play DUST ever again even if it were ported over to PS4 or PC. CCP has drawn this out for far too long and it sort of leaves a bad taste. If only there were a list large enough for the amount of things CCP could have done and did not do. Everyone here would disagree, we want to play Dust, it's just kinda unplayable right now. We're PC players, pubs frustrate us, players not giving there all and acting they're a part of our cut throat universe takes us out of the experience, which si why we treat them like peasants. And right now PC lags out, doesn't start, and is just plain broken. I doubt there's even 2 active PCing corps right now daily. If the PC servers ever got fixed, a lot of us would hop back on to melt faces once again, but that lag is UNBEARABLE. GD is really pissing me off with this ****. They don't want EVE: The FPS. The want COD: EVE. Lets make everyone a winner! I enjoy playing Plants VS. Zombies and Supermarket Mania on my "phone" more than I do DUST. Arma is love. Arma is life. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Ayuzawa 21	Posted - 2015.10.27 22:27:00 - [125] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Arma is love. Arma is life. ?
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:54:00 - [126] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. TP's rise to power could be an interesting tell. TeamPlayers is the probably the most interesting of them all, imo. TP was one of the most dominant forces seen in MH. What separates TP from every other dominant corp is that you never hear any of their places mentioned in most of the greatest of all times lists. I know some of the guys that are frequently listed joined TP at one time or another but that may have been after TP had established their mark. TP not mentioned as the GOAT? are you smoking some kinda new just dubbs? No one who knows wtf they are talking about would argue TP is the GOAT in PC history. TP is still the GOAT in my book. AE would place 2nd. I personally think FA is third all time with OH 4th. And EoN followed by NF with DNS excluded for obvious reasons are the greatest alliances of PC history. Renegade and TSO is actually more of a toss up in my book. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:27:00 - [127] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Arma is love. Arma is life. ? Arma is a milsim game I play on the weekends with a group. Lots of fun. That's not my POV, I was actually running overwatch for those guy from about 400 away with my SR-25. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 23:55:00 - [128] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. TP's rise to power could be an interesting tell. TeamPlayers is the probably the most interesting of them all, imo. TP was one of the most dominant forces seen in MH. What separates TP from every other dominant corp is that you never hear any of their places mentioned in most of the greatest of all times lists. I know some of the guys that are frequently listed joined TP at one time or another but that may have been after TP had established their mark. TP not mentioned as the GOAT? are you smoking some kinda new just dubbs? No one who knows wtf they are talking about would argue TP is the GOAT in PC history. TP is still the GOAT in my book. AE would place 2nd. I personally think FA is third all time with OH 4th. And EoN followed by NF with DNS excluded for obvious reasons are the greatest alliances of PC history. Renegade and TSO is actually more of a toss up in my book. For three months, we were four/ five capping Everyone In The Game. After about eighty straight victories( The Streak) we lost a game or two to hellstorm. After that, we attacked and won out against them until they weren't competitive anymore. It was another two or three months before AE could field a decent team. We certainly weren't the most purely talented team. We just had 14 consistent members, good strategic understanding of the game, good leadership, and we all played our roles. Our slayers were vastly underrated until we pulled Reg in. Our heavies did exactly what they needed to do to win. We had no scouts( as was the style that year) and our logis were second to none. I liked working with Zat a lot back then. We were almost always on the same page( he was always on the same page in much too many words though!). DDD played the same idea, but filled the team AV role as well. Zdubs learned quickly and played a strategically sound game, as well as being emotionally centered. Couldn't have asked for a better crew.
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 528	Posted - 2015.10.29 07:41:00 - [129] - Quote Ayuzawa wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Arma is love. Arma is life. ? Pc master race
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 10:12:00 - [130] - Quote It would be interesting to see who would win between old school teams and new teams. TP was and Imps and hell even AE/OH were already gone and or changing/losing players when alot of people and corps rose up in this game. Saying 1 team was the best just because they were the first is not an argument you will ever win. The Toronto Maple Leafs or the 20s were considered amazing...but would be crushed by the Maple Leafs of 2015...even tho the 2015 ML get crushed by everyone else. Although TP was good I believe there are tones of players and teams out there now that would easily slaughter them. Why? Because now there are more organizers and FCS. Only reason imps were good was they had people leading them in a focused direction while most other corps at the time just wanted to play a fun shooting video game. Make sense? Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa

The legend345 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:03:00 - [131] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. TP's rise to power could be an interesting tell. TeamPlayers is the probably the most interesting of them all, imo. TP was one of the most dominant forces seen in MH. What separates TP from every other dominant corp is that you never hear any of their places mentioned in most of the greatest of all times lists. I know some of the guys that are frequently listed joined TP at one time or another but that may have been after TP had established their mark. TP not mentioned as the GOAT? are you smoking some kinda new just dubbs? No one who knows wtf they are talking about would argue TP is the GOAT in PC history. TP is still the GOAT in my book. AE would place 2nd. I personally think FA is third all time with OH 4th. And EoN followed by NF with DNS excluded for obvious reasons are the greatest alliances of PC history. Renegade and TSO is actually more of a toss up in my book. For three months, we were four/ five capping Everyone In The Game. After about eighty straight victories( The Streak) we lost a game or two to hellstorm. After that, we attacked and won out against them until they weren't competitive anymore. It was another two or three months before AE could field a decent team. We certainly weren't the most purely talented team. We just had 14 consistent members, good strategic understanding of the game, good leadership, and we all played our roles. Our slayers were vastly underrated until we pulled Reg in. Our heavies did exactly what they needed to do to win. We had no scouts( as was the style that year) and our logis were second to none. I liked working with Zat a lot back then. We were almost always on the same page( he was always on the same page in much too many words though!). DDD played the same idea, but filled the team AV role as well. Zdubs learned quickly and played a strategically sound game, as well as being emotionally centered. Couldn't have asked for a better crew. You're forgetting one thing, we had a ******* blast! "Yiiiiiippppp" cubs voice GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà *Uprising God of Tanking* Oculus Rift
The legend345 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:06:00 - [132] - Quote Roman837 wrote: It would be interesting to see who would win between old school teams and new teams. TP was and Imps and hell even AE/OH were already gone and or changing/losing players when alot of people and corps rose up in this game. Saying 1 team was the best just because they were the first is not an argument you will ever win. The Toronto Maple Leafs or the 20s were considered amazing...but would be crushed by the Maple Leafs of 2015...even tho the 2015 ML get crushed by everyone else. Although TP was good I believe there are tones of players and teams out there now that would easily slaughter them. Why? Because now there are more organizers and FCS. Only reason imps were good was they had people leading them in a focused direction while most other corps at the time just wanted to play a fun shooting video game. Make sense? The game is a piece of ** now compared to what it was lmao... These teams all played in different times. You can't translate what teams are capable of from different periods. I'd strictly consider who dominated for the longest time and who was dominate against the most competitive player base! Aka teamplayers niggeeeee GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Uprising God of Tanking** Oculus Rift
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 658	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:22:00 - [133] - Quote Roman837 wrote: It would be interesting to see who would win between old school teams and new teams. TP was and Imps and hell even AE/OH were already gone and or changing/losing players when alot of people and corps rose up in this game. Saying 1 team was the best just because they were the first is not an argument you will ever win. The Toronto Maple Leafs or the 20s were considered amazing...but would be crushed by the Maple Leafs of 2015...even tho the 2015 ML get crushed by everyone else. Although TP was good I believe there are tones of players and teams out there now that would easily slaughter them. Why? Because now there are more organizers and FCS. Only reason imps were good was they had people leading them in a focused direction while most other corps at the time just wanted to play a fun shooting video game. Make sense? Yeahh our superior gun game had nothing to do with bending you over CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:35:00 - [134] - Quote editing I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:55:00 - [135] - Quote Bending me over? When did that happen. I've been here since the start. I saw the rise and fall of everyone IMPS were around for how long? TP for how long? All depends when you played. STB even at one point had an elite PC team. Hell I'd wager their early team could beat most of the ones still around. They had talent. Oh well. Those were the glory days. Now games filled with kids and punks. Who complain about literally everything. Yet everything they currently have is exactly what we were begging for back in yhe day lol Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC 672	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:28:00 - [136] - Quote Pass me that dementia medicine, Roman. I'm getting old over here.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:34:00 - [137] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Bending me over? When did that happen. I've been here since the start. I saw the rise and fall of everyone IMPS were around for how long? TP for how long? All depends when you played. STB even at one point had an elite PC team. Hell I'd wager their early team could beat most of the ones still around. They had talent. Oh well. Those were the glory days. Now games filled with kids and punks. Who complain about literally everything. Yet everything they currently have is exactly what we were begging for back in yhe day lol STB got bent by Imps until they hired EoN...bent by AE until FA starting ringing...and bent by ERA/AE during the DNS debacle. and DDB got bent while you were with them as well. Imps were here from what...Summer 2012 to June 2013? and NF as the embodiment of Imps has been around almost the entirety of dust. TP was here from like...November 2012? Really got going when Deluxe and co from "Like A Boss" joined them and then became the best in the game post PFBHz infusion and snowballed that even further after Reg and a few Imps came over? They the best until they quit the game. And the remnants have been among the most influential of corps since the departure of the majority of their players. TP was the backbone of ERA...you might have heard of them? So really TP was here until Red Wedding in many ways. STB's elite team IMO was when God Nova and Youngcuz were still there. Once STB lost them they sorta fell off to top of the b tier (just under the Unreal/PFBHz/Hellstorm/Imps/ETC level). They had tons of talent...but then again so did Subdreddit. I could lead you a team from subdreddit that would include Funkmaster Whale, The Spinner, Zdub303, Namob Boman, Kenkaniff, Ellithana Mori, Skeez Skeezenstein...and a lot more...talent =/= winning I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:37:00 - [138] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Pass me that dementia medicine, Roman. I'm getting old over here. Hmm strange I see no mention of CAP or KEQ in any of these posts. ..was it because they only began to shine when everyone else had already left? Yes...you had your time. We all did. Havnt played a game of Dust in 6 months. Yet I still get brought up Daily. I'll consider that a win. You all know as much **** as I talk...I can back it up! Truly miss this game on a serious note. Not the actual playing of this game...but the politics and Meta. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:42:00 - [139] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Roman837 wrote: Bending me over? When did that happen. I've been here since the start. I saw the rise and fall of everyone IMPS were around for how long? TP for how long? All depends when you played. STB even at one point had an elite PC team. Hell I'd wager their early team could beat most of the ones still around. They had talent. Oh well. Those were the glory days. Now games filled with kids and punks. Who complain about literally everything. Yet everything they currently have is exactly what we were begging for back in yhe day lol STB got bent by Imps until they hired EoN...bent by AE until FA starting ringing...and bent by ERA/AE during the DNS debacle. and DDB got bent while you were with them as well. Imps were here from what...Summer 2012 to June 2013? and NF as the embodiment of Imps has been around almost the entirety of dust. TP was here from like...November 2012? Really got going when Deluxe and co from "Like A Boss" joined them and then became the best in the game post PFBHz infusion and snowballed that even further after Reg and a few Imps came over? They the best until they quit the game. And the remnants have been among the most influential of corps since the departure of the majority of their players. TP was the backbone of ERA...you might have heard of them? So really TP was here until Red Wedding in many ways. STB's elite team IMO was when God Nova and Youngcuz were still there. Once STB lost them they sorta fell off to top of the b tier (just under the Unreal/PFBHz/Hellstorm/Imps/ETC level). They had tons of talent...but then again so did Subdreddit. I could lead you a team from subdreddit that would include Funkmaster Whale, The Spinner, Zdub303, Namob Boman, Kenkaniff, Ellithana Mori, Skeez Skeezenstein...and a lot more...talent =/= winning Difference of Perspective. There are videos on YouTube of full teams of STB beating the IMPS and many others.. We had the Twins..Sgt Biggs. XDESTRUCTION. Sen Snipe. Nix Nova..quick gloves. Stlcarlos wiki clown. Marston VC... Those are 10 bad asses we had. We did lack in ads and tanks. I miss those days. Hell let's not forget when DDB was still in STB. We then had Jk420 Kody..baby shaker...cesspool... Like they had talent. But it was cool to attack STB. 100% TP were our allies. I still talk to cubs on Skype. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 661	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:46:00 - [140] - Quote Roman you are just fun to mess with..you brought life to a dead game CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:51:00 - [141] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Pass me that dementia medicine, Roman. I'm getting old over here. Hmm strange I see no mention of CAP or KEQ in any of these posts. ..was it because they only began to shine when everyone else had already left? Yes...you had your time. We all did. Havnt played a game of Dust in 6 months. Yet I still get brought up Daily. I'll consider that a win. You all know as much ** as I talk...I can back it up! Truly miss this game on a serious note. Not the actual playing of this game...but the politics and Meta. Cap was always like...the best of the lower tier teams until red wedding. In the DNS war you didn't see Cap attacking FA...that was AE's and ERA's job as the best. Cap has been arguably a top 5 team since January 2014...but there's never been a point I'm aware of where people have thought of Cap as the number one team in the game..maybe while FA was rebuilding after everyone left the game round 2 after rouge wedding? But even when I got back from Destiny Shep was the one who told me that Cap tried to attack FA and were repelled...during the time that we were on destiny and ergo weaker. I still think highly of Cap, but that's sorta why they aren't often mentioned in these conversations IMO. They were a great team that occupied the top in the absence of the teams that previously surpassed them..It would have been fantastic for their rep for Cap to have dominated OH. Or if Cap kicked AE now out of PC...that would be impressive. KEQ as a team has always been bad. The only time KEQ was relevant was when KEQ allied with AE and OH. If you took FA and AE and had 6 Standby Retaliation in a match if that but stanby started dominating PC...you wouldn't remember Jake's team as the best. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily**
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:55:00 - [142] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Difference of Perspective. There are videos on YouTube of full teams of STB beating the IMPS and many others.. Can you point me to video's of STB beating Imps? I'd like to see that. The rest I addressed. They had great players, but that didn't translate into being a team worthy of Hellstorm, TP, or even OH. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:01:00 - [143] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Pass me that dementia medicine, Roman. I'm getting old over here. Hmm strange I see no mention of CAP or KEQ in any of these posts. ..was it because they only began to shine when everyone else had already left? Yes...you had your time. We all did. Havnt played a game of Dust in 6 months. Yet I still get brought up Daily. I'll consider that a win. You all know as much **** as I talk...I can back it up! Truly miss this game on a serious note. Not the actual playing of this game...but the politics and Meta. The only reason most of us are still here. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC 674	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:03:00 - [144] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Hmm strange I see no mention of CAP or KEQ in any of these posts. ..was it because they only began to shine when everyone else had already left? Yes...you had your time. We all did. Havnt played a game of Dust in 6 months. Yet I still get brought up Daily. I'll consider that a win. You all know as much **** as I talk...I can back it up! Truly miss this game on a serious note. Not the actual playing of this game...but the politics and Meta. Ouch, that would sting...except you just insulted yourself. Considering I was born in Uprising, no prior affiliation with eve, building a team from scratch of post-Uprising players...I'm more than satisfied with the outcome. My relevancy or legacy isn't reflected by/in you, nor do I require the affirmation. Rather, my joy derives from the stories my guys and I trade among ourselves. Haven't taken the time to read this thread at all, so I wouldn't know any better anyway. Adaptation illustrates who is best at this game, and their length of prevalency....with a pinch of luck. Darwin514. Btw, miss you too sweetheart. Our conflict and subsequent wars compile some of my fondest memories. <3
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:06:00 - [145] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Roman837 wrote: Hmm strange I see no mention of CAP or KEQ in any of these posts. ..was it because they only began to shine when everyone else had already left? Yes...you had your time. We all did. Havnt played a game of Dust in 6 months. Yet I still get brought up Daily. I'll consider that a win. You all know as much **** as I talk...I can back it up! Truly miss this game on a serious note. Not the actual playing of this game...but the politics and Meta. Ouch, that would sting...except you just insulted yourself. Considering I was born in Uprising, no prior affiliation with eve, building a team from scratch of post-Uprising players...I'm more than satisfied with the outcome. My relevancy or legacy isn't reflected by/in you, nor do I require the affirmation. Rather, my joy derives from the stories my guys and I trade among ourselves. Haven't taken the time to read this thread at all, so I wouldn't know any better anyway. Adaptation illustrates who is best at this game, and their length of prevalency....with a pinch of luck. Darwin514. Btw, miss you too sweetheart. Our conflict and subsequent wars compile some of my fondest memories. <3 It'll be a sad day if this game ever does die. Most of us have been fighting each other for a few years now. The War Room would probably be heartbreaking to read through the last few days. Like when the Red Wedding happened and the War Room was filled with retirement posts from older players. I hope that day never comes ;_; #PortDust514 Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:07:00 - [146] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Roman837 wrote: Hmm strange I see no mention of CAP or KEQ in any of these posts. ..was it because they only began to shine when everyone else had already left? Yes...you had your time. We all did. Havnt played a game of Dust in 6 months. Yet I still get brought up Daily. I'll consider that a win. You all know as much **** as I talk...I can back it up! Truly miss this game on a serious note. Not the actual playing of this game...but the politics and Meta. Ouch, that would sting...except you just insulted yourself. Considering I was born in Uprising, no prior affiliation with eve, building a team from scratch of post-Uprising players...I'm more than satisfied with the outcome. My relevancy or legacy isn't reflected by/in you, nor do I require the affirmation. Rather, my joy derives from the stories my guys and I trade among ourselves. Haven't taken the time to read this thread at all, so I wouldn't know any better anyway. Adaptation illustrates who is best at this game, and their length of prevalency....with a pinch of luck. Darwin514. Btw, miss you too sweetheart. Our conflict and subsequent wars compile some of my fondest memories. <3 It'll be a sad day if this game ever does die. Most of us have been fighting each other for a few years now. The War Room would probably be heartbreaking to read through the last few days. Like when the Red Wedding happened and the War Room was filled with retirement posts from older players. I hope that day never comes ;_; #PortDust514 I doubt this game will die. I know deep down in my gut it will survive one way or another. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:22:00 - [147] - Quote Roman837 wrote: It would be interesting to see who would win between old school teams and new teams. TP was and Imps and hell even AE/OH were already gone and or changing/losing players when alot of people and corps rose up in this game. Saying 1 team was the best just because they were the first is not an argument you will ever win. The Toronto Maple Leafs or the 20s were considered amazing...but would be crushed by the Maple Leafs of 2015...even tho the 2015 ML get crushed by everyone else. Although TP was good I believe there are tones of players and teams out there now that would easily slaughter them. Why? Because now there are more organizers and FCS. Only reason imps were good was they had people leading them in a focused direction while most other corps at the time just wanted to play a fun shooting video game. Make sense? I'd disagree on that note. The old teams would pretty much slaughter them, my logic behind it is this: Old teams in general had far better ground game than the new teams, gun for gun, there would be no contest. But on the other hand, due to their superior ground teams, they typically would have weaker AV nets and vehicle support. It wasn't nonexistent, but not to the level of new teams. New teams have no gun game, but to circumvent this little area, they would resort to: Speed hacks high ground control AV net The AV net would prove useless unless they were fighting FA or AE, all TP had was Legend IIRC (which I might not), and IMPS were relevant when vehicles were pretty much not. Even then, the high ground would be quickly put to rest because all the old FC would have to do is use some common sense and place a sniper on their asses. And a lot of the old school teams had monster snipers: TP had liquid Fox AE had Symbiotic Forks and Pelongnis FA had Himiko, Grunt and myself if I had no option (actually, I'm only okay sniping) Once the new teams are forced to the ground, they will be slaughtered. 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg I like whales
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC 676	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:34:00 - [148] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Cap was always like...the best of the lower tier teams until red wedding. Cap has been arguably a top 5 team since January 2014...but there's never been a point I'm aware of where people have thought of Cap as the number one team in the game..maybe while FA was rebuilding after everyone left the game round 2 after rouge wedding? But even when I got back from Destiny Shep was the one who told me that Cap tried to attack FA and were repelled...during the time that we were on destiny and ergo weaker. I still think highly of Cap, but that's sorta why they aren't often mentioned in these conversations IMO. They were a great team that occupied the top in the absence of the teams that previously surpassed them..It would have been fantastic for their rep for Cap to have dominated OH. Or if Cap kicked AE now out of PC...that would be impressive. Pretty much this. Yet, I take pride in this. For the most part, we always used our own guys. I remember asking Cubs to not ring for our opponents, because we were beating them consistently and wanted fair fights (VC/Px1/WR/TTD/others) - his response was he wouldn't take payment to not fight (no quarrels there). It was never about the isk to me...it was about climbing the ladder. Field my guys, you field yours, let's see what we got. I believe everyone here who has been my opponent at one time or another can absolutely confirm this. We never dominated OH. As much blood as we shed against each other, it inadvertently formed a bond between us that lasts even to this day (minus radar, have literally never talked to him). This desire to fight overwhelming odds earned the respect of teams like OH/AE/NS. We never really fought FA before Tso's because yes, AE and ERA wanted the fight. FA has always had the clear advantage in terms of lineup compared to us, this I can't deny. CAP has NEVER had all star players...ever [go ahead, try and name some]. We won by team cohesion alone, role comprehension and execution - I wouldn't trade this for any all star. When you get smashed together, yet stay as one, the grit that forms simply can't be overcome. Cinderellas. Never locked to stay in MH, never rang out entire teams to earn wins. My self-righteous preachy attitude never really belonged in this cut throat atmosphere, I realize that wholeheartedly. But I never sacrificed that philosophy to achieve victory. Kick AE out of PC? Ha...I'm just an old clone now. My fire has been nearly extinguished. Senior year takes up way too much time to no life anyway. If only I could write my thesis with as much fervor as the words printed here.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:05:00 - [149] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Cap was always like...the best of the lower tier teams until red wedding. Cap has been arguably a top 5 team since January 2014...but there's never been a point I'm aware of where people have thought of Cap as the number one team in the game..maybe while FA was rebuilding after everyone left the game round 2 after rouge wedding? But even when I got back from Destiny Shep was the one who told me that Cap tried to attack FA and were repelled...during the time that we were on destiny and ergo weaker. I still think highly of Cap, but that's sorta why they aren't often mentioned in these conversations IMO. They were a great team that occupied the top in the absence of the teams that previously surpassed them..It would have been fantastic for their rep for Cap to have dominated OH. Or if Cap kicked AE now out of PC...that would be impressive. Pretty much this. Yet, I take pride in this. For the most part, we always used our own guys. I remember asking Cubs to not ring for our opponents, because we were beating them consistently and wanted fair fights (VC/Px1/WR/TTD/others) - his response was he wouldn't take payment to not fight (no quarrels there). It was never about the isk to me...it was about climbing the ladder. Field my guys, you field yours, let's see what we got. I believe everyone here who has been my opponent at one time or another can absolutely confirm this. We never dominated OH. As much blood as we shed against each other, it inadvertently formed a bond between us that lasts even to this day (minus radar, have literally never talked to him). This desire to fight overwhelming odds earned the respect of teams like OH/AE/NS. We never really fought FA before Tso's because yes, AE and ERA wanted the fight. FA has always had the clear advantage in terms of lineup compared to us, this I can't deny. CAP has NEVER had all star players...ever [go ahead, try and name some]. We won by team cohesion alone, role comprehension and execution - I wouldn't trade this for any all star. When you get smashed together, yet stay as one, the grit that forms simply can't be overcome. Cinderellas. Never locked to stay in MH, never rang out entire teams to earn wins. My self-righteous preachy attitude never really belonged in this cut throat atmosphere, I realize that wholeheartedly. But I never sacrificed that philosophy to achieve victory. Kick AE out of PC? Ha...I'm just an old clone now. My fire has been nearly extinguished. Senior year takes up way too much time to no life anyway. If only I could write my thesis with as much fervor as the words printed here. You could probably write an analytical thesis on the meta and drama of Dust514 if you really wanted to. In the states at least, so long as its well written and sourced correctly, they'll let you write about damn near anything. Its more of an evaluation of your ability to write a damn good paper than anything. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:33:00 - [150] - Quote Noneck and you and kalash could have gone anywhere, but after that it gets fuzzy I admit. I echo the sentiment as well that Cap achieved a team that was greater than the sum of its parts. As for derriths assertion I think it'd take a longer post to explain...but TP operated at a time where ADS's were worthless. On tanks TP had great tanks legend just happened to be the best blaster tank. Cubs was the av net in the city usually with a backup like draka available. Imagio has long been forgotten but he was a great tanker...TP also had a 3rd tanker. And imps actually were grounded in the best tank game along with PFBHZ led by Zitro himself. On sniping Dwater was our best sniper iirc. He had a sniping spot to hit alpha on hubs and was pretty clutch. I don't remember himiko sniping. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily

Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:33:00 - [151] - Quote I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:36:00 - [152] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally. Damn good fights too. You'll never get organized yet chaotic comms like that again.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:39:00 - [153] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally. I'm sad that I missed chromosome. It sounds like a really fun time. I came into Dust in late open beta with Intrepidus XI and a whole bunch of friends from BF3. Shoulda came in sooner Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:45:00 - [154] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally. AE was reduced to taking districts from corps like 187. And didn't really pose a challenge until 10k fist ari. Without Ari it wasn't equal, it was more like 70/30. I think the record was 14-4 win/loss vs AE. Equal is a bit biased. No one takes more pictures than me <3 when you consider dubbs talking june to august...I don't thinkly he's off. AE's wins against TP pre FEC could be counted on one hand. After the exodus for ff14/gta5 TP fell off. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:59:00 - [155] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Noneck and you and kalash could have gone anywhere, but after that it gets fuzzy I admit. I echo the sentiment as well that Cap achieved a team that was greater than the sum of its parts. As for derriths assertion I think it'd take a longer post to explain...but TP operated at a time where ADS's were worthless. On tanks TP had great tanks legend just happened to be the best blaster tank. Cubs was the av net in the city usually with a backup like draka available. Imagio has long been forgotten but he was a great tanker...TP also had a 3rd tanker. And imps actually were grounded in the best tank game along with PFBHZ led by Zitro himself. On sniping Dwater was our best sniper iirc. He had a sniping spot to hit alpha on hubs and was pretty clutch. I don't remember himiko sniping. Well, he was when I left most recently. And TBH, a lot of our snipers like chodewater and grunt were also just plain beasts in the city. I completely forgot about Zitro, weird because my first clan leader got really pissed this one time the dude rammed his tank, should've been more memorable. And honestly, if Cubs and Draka were the main AV net, they wouldn't compare to the lengths some of these news will go to keep me and whoever I'm flying with out of the city. I can honestly say that in all my time fighting the old schoolers, they never put three swarms, a forge, a tank and a rail incubus on my ass simultaneously. The new guys have, and a few times it still didn't work, not often though. And to be frank, you're right, it would take longer to explain why the old schoolers would still win, but I think I got the basic gist of it. 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg I like whales
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:06:00 - [156] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally. AE was reduced to taking districts from corps like 187. And didn't really pose a challenge until 10k fist ari. Without Ari it wasn't equal, it was more like 70/30. I think the record was 14-4 win/loss vs AE. Equal is a bit biased. No one takes more pictures than me <3 when you consider dubbs talking june to august...I don't thinkly he's off. AE's wins against TP pre FEC could be counted on one hand. After the exodus for ff14/gta5 TP fell off. Pretty sure everyone fell of after FF14. TP in the other hand fell of when they lost the tournament to AE late september in 2013. After that we never fought TP again. I remember also going into wars against FA and OH before 2013 ended and we won both. Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:09:00 - [157] - Quote There was a time in AE's history where they went up a insurmountable amount of clones, and even though they won a few games, they lost all there districts. AE had to do what they had to do, it's probably that bitter treatment from TP that lead AE to be known as such bad guys later on, lol.
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:16:00 - [158] - Quote Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies. Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat. Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in. Like no Parthok Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:18:00 - [159] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE. If AE isn't talking about it, how is it their fault that only the ex EoN/TP fogies are saying stuff? Besides that, it wouldn't really be an accurate dust history without AE. commentary. Perhaps you could fix that? 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg I like whales
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:18:00 - [160] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies. Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat. Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in. Like no Parthok When(if) the infamous failed VF attempt gets brought up, contact me or Moppchopper Sneaktoots as I handled some of their diplomacy. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!

Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:22:00 - [161] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies. Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat. Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in. Like no Parthok Sure, I'd be down for that. But we'd also need the input of the smaller corps that were swept in the wars, I mean, if only the high rollers talked, it wouldn't be much of a history, I'd like to think that everyone's opinion would be seen. 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg I like whales
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:32:00 - [162] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE. If AE isn't talking about it, how is it their fault that only the ex EoN/TP fogies are saying stuff? Besides that, it wouldn't really be an accurate dust history without AE. commentary. Perhaps you could fix that? It annoys me a little bit and something inside me told to say something. How ironic, the most quiet person from AE is here talking. The rest dont give a damn. In reality i dont know much about AE's deep secrets since i was never a diplo nor a director lol never got into the heavy conversations so i can only say what i saw. The only person that could say anything about AE's history is Kujo himself and he doesn't care. He is a freaking emperor and a millionaire in elder scrolls online now. Talk about taking neckbearding a game to the max and yall know him how he is when he goes full neckbeard.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:47:00 - [163] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE. If AE isn't talking about it, how is it their fault that only the ex EoN/TP fogies are saying stuff? Besides that, it wouldn't really be an accurate dust history without AE. commentary. Perhaps you could fix that? It annoys me a little bit and something inside me told to say something. How ironic, the most quiet person from AE is here talking. The rest dont give a damn. In reality i dont know much about AE's deep secrets since i was never a diplo nor a director lol never got into the heavy conversations so i can only say what i saw. The only person that could say anything about AE's history is Kujo himself and he doesn't care. He is a freaking emperor and a millionaire in elder scrolls online now. Talk about taking neckbearding a game to the max and yall know him how he is when he goes full neckbeard. I'm not even a millionaire in Skyrim, Jesus Christ. I was a level 84 altmer mage with the Inferno mod spells, if you haven't played that mod, be prepared to die and scream in rage and have super duper heart attacks from all the clutch battles you got to do, and have a beast processor. And to be honest, any input from any AE. guy would probably be welcome, seeing as they don't talk. Well, maybe Doc might... but he might not even be the right guy to ask... 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg I like whales
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:48:00 - [164] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally. AE was reduced to taking districts from corps like 187. And didn't really pose a challenge until 10k fist ari. Without Ari it wasn't equal, it was more like 70/30. I think the record was 14-4 win/loss vs AE. Equal is a bit biased. No one takes more pictures than me <3 when you consider dubbs talking june to august...I don't thinkly he's off. AE's wins against TP pre FEC could be counted on one hand. After the exodus for ff14/gta5 TP fell off. Pretty sure everyone fell of after FF14. TP in the other hand fell of when they lost the tournament to AE late september in 2013. After that we never fought TP again. I remember also going into wars against FA and OH before 2013 ended and we won both. Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE. We ran wtf into the ground, then ran through the entirety of chronos( with help of course). After that we essentially single handedly decimate what was ROFL at the time, then we went 9-0 against OH and nearly decimated them as well. Then we lost once or twice to hellstorm before rattling off 10-15 straight before your former corp exploded and they begged for peace. Meanwhile, Kujo lead his exodus and tried to hide districts behind an alt corp. AE really didn't have any legs to stand on until AFTER the fec war. How long was it between the hellstorm war and FEC? Pretty sure it was a few months. Really wasn't until ff14 that here was really a challenge... Don't get me wrong, you guys were right there with us. It was obvious who the tourney final was going to be from the very start of that two month cluster. And you kicked our collective butts. But we were dominant for three months after AE was formed... In addition to being unquestionably the best before. I was on the team though, so i think it probably says more about competition level than excellence.
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 21:05:00 - [165] - Quote Agreed. We would need alot of people. And somone going through dates and events..a moderator. I'd like to see ccp get involved in this...show some charts and give us access to pictures to show big corps of the times. Like the eve graphs. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 21:29:00 - [166] - Quote You got to love the revisionist history and selective memory that goes on in the war room. The answer to best ever is clearly CBM. Dust User for CPM 3.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 21:39:00 - [167] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally. AE was reduced to taking districts from corps like 187. And didn't really pose a challenge until 10k fist ari. Without Ari it wasn't equal, it was more like 70/30. I think the record was 14-4 win/loss vs AE. Equal is a bit biased. No one takes more pictures than me <3 when you consider dubbs talking june to august...I don't thinkly he's off. AE's wins against TP pre FEC could be counted on one hand. After the exodus for ff14/gta5 TP fell off. Pretty sure everyone fell of after FF14. TP in the other hand fell of when they lost the tournament to AE late september in 2013. After that we never fought TP again. I remember also going into wars against FA and OH before 2013 ended and we won both. Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE. Everyone did, and this is why we see it differently on when TP fell off. I remember being in the final and Cubs being just as pissed as Mavado was when we played SyN because Cub's couldn't get people online. People were just straight up refusing. We fell off after FF14, it just wasn't exposed until the final...and even then all those matches were down to 10 clones iirc...Kujo was saying they had trouble getting people online as well. That doesn't make it untrue that TP was largely gone already. Kujo admitted that TP smacked AE around at the beginning on these forums. With 10k fist Ari and everyone mass leaving (seriously people didn't even care enough to log on for FEC except through Cubs sheer will) It really was more of a testament to AE's lack of consistency that TP managed to put up decent fights post FEC without me/imagio/high times/Xero/Sponge...and more. We were all gone. Props to Fiddle, Cubs, Legend, DocDDD and I guess Reg for keeping the ship righted once we became quite squishy. I remember going into the winter war as well! (nice transition there ) I dunno what you're talking about 'won both' As there was only one war. ProfV attacked Renegade attacked and we were there to help and ring. They paid us with districts and the battles where they fielded 8+ FA were extremely fun wins. Sadly as Tib's can attest to...Radar made some extremely poor choices in the war...I won't play what if's but I will say OH crippled themselves due to Radar's mismanagement of the war just as much as AE crippled them. FA never had the privilege of fielding 16 FA vs AE until OH paid us the 3 Sakulda districts. FA proceeded to win what...20+ some odd contests from the point in december that OH gave us 3 districts to what jan 29th when AE made the thread saying they had finally won a district from us while admitting they'd been losing for weeks? Let me just say...I'm biased, but I think FA had a better showing vs AE upon their arrival (and mind you I wasn't simply fusing the #2 team in the game with Imps...I had to start from scratch and go find people who had never stepped inside the PC realm before) than AE had vs TP. Once we had districts AE was losing more than they were winning because again...as marauder aptly once said FA was stronger during the week when our a-team was on, and AE was stronger on the weekend when their a-team got on. Which lead to far more FA wins vs AE. And that was the only district they won from us until they paid off ERA to stop attacking them and swap sides to stack us. While we won like 8 districts? and lost the final reup's on a few others. Clone packs ya know? I personally see bias when people are only interested in casting shade on others accomplishments as opposed to most of the people here who are quite content to pay respect to opponents. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 21:44:00 - [168] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Don't get me wrong, you guys were right there with us. It was obvious who the tourney final was going to be from the very start of that two month cluster. And you kicked our collective butts. But we were dominant for three months after AE was formed... In addition to being unquestionably the best before. I was on the team though, so i think it probably says more about competition level than excellence. AE was created late July so I'd say 2 months. But they were winning 50% of the battles post FEC which ended late August. The tourney concluded late September. Point is I'd say we were dominant against AE for 1 month after their inception. I wasn't there for September but even if TP remained dominant vs AE that's 2. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
The legend345 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.29 21:55:00 - [169] - Quote It's kind of sad, all of these pages are a prime example of how much we loved dust... Now this game is only a little more than a memory tbh (atleast for me) GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà *Uprising God of Tanking* Oculus Rift
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 663	Posted - 2015.10.29 22:02:00 - [170] - Quote I do remember TP players refusing to get on or have anything to do with the tourney Ari's glitch sealed the deal for a lot of people refusing to get on (think it was more of an excuse to quit) CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 22:14:00 - [171] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: I do remember TP players refusing to get on or have anything to do with the tourney Ari's glitch sealed the deal for a lot of people refusing to get on (think it was more of an excuse to quit) Getting raped by Ari was super frustrating and I was very conflicted about it, like heartburn mang. I felt loyalty to TP and didn't like the glitch. And yet at the same time I was the only one who vouched for Ari when he sent his app in and I tried desperately to convince Cubs that Ari was a beast waiting to happen....and I knew we had no ground to stand on when it came to Ari using the glitch because Ari admitted his inspiration was the shotgun twins and fiddle. I knew Ari like week 2 in beta when he was in A.I. But ya know it's sad history. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 665	Posted - 2015.10.29 22:23:00 - [172] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I do remember TP players refusing to get on or have anything to do with the tourney Ari's glitch sealed the deal for a lot of people refusing to get on (think it was more of an excuse to quit) Getting raped by Ari was super frustrating and I was very conflicted about it, like heartburn mang. I felt loyalty to TP and didn't like the glitch. And yet at the same time I was the only one who vouched for Ari when he sent his app in and I tried desperately to convince Cubs that Ari was a beast waiting to happen....and I knew we had no ground to stand on when it came to Ari using the glitch because Ari admitted his inspiration was the shotgun twins and fiddle. I knew Ari like week 2 in beta when he was in A.I. But ya know it's sad history. Oh I knew who started it that's why while I was TP I called ourselves out as those dickholes tried it on me and always failed..but Ari perfected it so he hurt my booty For those unaware I love the twins they were really fun and competitive CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
The legend345 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:57:00 - [173] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I do remember TP players refusing to get on or have anything to do with the tourney Ari's glitch sealed the deal for a lot of people refusing to get on (think it was more of an excuse to quit) Getting raped by Ari was super frustrating and I was very conflicted about it, like heartburn mang. I felt loyalty to TP and didn't like the glitch. And yet at the same time I was the only one who vouched for Ari when he sent his app in and I tried desperately to convince Cubs that Ari was a beast waiting to happen....and I knew we had no ground to stand on when it came to Ari using the glitch because Ari admitted his inspiration was the shotgun twins and fiddle. I knew Ari like week 2 in beta when he was in A.I. But ya know it's sad history. It wouldn't of mattered really, we shat on people regardless. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà *Uprising God of Tanking* Oculus Rift
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:27:00 - [174] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: The only person that could say anything about AE's history is Kujo himself and he doesn't care. Soul and Sari I would think would be able to provide a lot of context as well. Getting Soul on here might be tough, Sari is probably the best bet. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:01:00 - [175] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Roman837 wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Pass me that dementia medicine, Roman. I'm getting old over here. Hmm strange I see no mention of CAP or KEQ in any of these posts. ..was it because they only began to shine when everyone else had already left? Yes...you had your time. We all did. Havnt played a game of Dust in 6 months. Yet I still get brought up Daily. I'll consider that a win. You all know as much **** as I talk...I can back it up! Truly miss this game on a serious note. Not the actual playing of this game...but the politics and Meta. Cap was always like...the best of the lower tier teams until red wedding. In the DNS war you didn't see Cap attacking FA...that was AE's and ERA's job as the best. Cap has been arguably a top 5 team since January 2014...but there's never been a point I'm aware of where people have thought of Cap as the number one team in the game..maybe while FA was rebuilding after everyone left the game round 2 after rouge wedding? But even when I got back from Destiny Shep was the one who told me that Cap tried to attack FA and were repelled...during the time that we were on destiny and ergo weaker. I still think highly of Cap, but that's sorta why they aren't often mentioned in these conversations IMO. They were a great team that occupied the top in the absence of the teams that previously surpassed them..It would have been fantastic for their rep for Cap to have dominated OH. Or if Cap kicked AE now out of PC...that would be impressive. KEQ as a team has always been bad. The only time KEQ was relevant was when KEQ allied with AE and OH. If you took FA and AE and they started ringing along with 6 Standby Retaliation max for all of SR's matches. And SR started dominating PC...you wouldn't remember Jake's team as the best. Sounds like you're a little upset your corp got 5 capped by KEQ. Dust User for CPM 3.
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 03:03:00 - [176] - Quote Oh snap...burn! Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.30 04:14:00 - [177] - Quote Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 04:24:00 - [178] - Quote KEQ earned there place in history. For being the best district lockers the game has ever seen.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 04:44:00 - [179] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: KEQ earned there place in history. For being the best district lockers the game has ever seen. Paradox was better. Trust me. KEQ was just good at talking some scrub GM into letting them off the hook. Mike Ruan always got it right the first time.
Immortal John Ripper 29	Posted - 2015.10.30 04:49:00 - [180] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. When Ratatti surpasses my like count, I'd like for my name to be changed to Captain Picard. Will you please be my #1?

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.30 04:58:00 - [181] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. lol A 5 cap is about as useful in ascertaining the strength of a corp as roman's boat is useful in determining his fishing game. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 05:00:00 - [182] - Quote I started playing ff14 like 5 or 6 members of our team... I had nothing to do with preserving our position after the fec war. I logged in for the tourney almost exclusively. Probably contributed to my complete ineffectiveness in the final actually. My game was entirely centered on practice. My aim sucks and I somehow was third or forth best at my gun role. No life practice. I had one good match on rings and spent the rest of my time trying too hard and getting totally stomped. I did alright in ff14 when I played though, for the same reason I was semi effective in dust. I found what works and then cheesed the hell out of it. And Zat, you were a total care bear at that moment, but it didn't take much to convince you when we went radio silent and tried to take everything, so care bear status was revoked.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 05:01:00 - [183] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. lol A 5 cap is about as useful in ascertaining the strength of a corp as roman's boat is useful in determining his fishing game. 5 caps determine a corps resolve. Do they fight back? Do they show up to the next match?
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.30 05:12:00 - [184] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. lol A 5 cap is about as useful in ascertaining the strength of a corp as roman's boat is useful in determining his fishing game. 5 caps determine a corps resolve. Do they fight back? Do they show up to the next match? Not necessarily. a 5 cap could be caused by any number of factors that don't require fighting back...like when kane decided to gift the community with districts, right? I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 05:52:00 - [185] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. lol A 5 cap is about as useful in ascertaining the strength of a corp as roman's boat is useful in determining his fishing game. 5 caps determine a corps resolve. Do they fight back? Do they show up to the next match? Not necessarily. a 5 cap could be caused by any number of factors that don't require fighting back...like when kane decided to gift the community with districts, right? The first few matches were fun, actually :D. It was like the FEC war. I found a squad that was good enough to kill 20 clones in a 16v6... After the opposition stopped being entirely inept, it was less fun. I did get to 1v1 forum personality BigOleNuts... I kited him around the point under rings for a MD clip and a half. 9 good rounds until I messed up one time and killed myself. The speed mass driver build didn't quite stand the test of time. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Really no possible way to get him in that situation at that stage in balance, but its all that I knew how to do :X. Kane acted unilaterally the majority of the time. I just liked the general idea of what he wanted to do, so I helped. I may have made a good amount of fake money in the process. And launched more than a hundred attacks in a day... twice. For a brief moment, every single district in molden heath was under attack. We had like 20 guys to fill all those matches, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.30 09:32:00 - [186] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. lol A 5 cap is about as useful in ascertaining the strength of a corp as roman's boat is useful in determining his fishing game. 5 caps determine a corps resolve. Do they fight back? Do they show up to the next match? Not necessarily. a 5 cap could be caused by any number of factors that don't require fighting back...like when kane decided to gift the community with districts, right? Or in this situation when FA and Devins big stick got 5 capped for 3 days straight and then did the same thing but called it "pull out game". Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by KEQ. Dust User for CPM 3.
Roman837 Murphys-Law 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 13:05:00 - [187] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. lol A 5 cap is about as useful in ascertaining the strength of a corp as roman's boat is useful in determining his fishing game. Woah woah. Negative mention of the boat? I guarentee any person who steps foot on my boat is catching fish! But...yes..true..the size of one's boat does not always determine his motion in ocean. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.30 13:32:00 - [188] - Quote Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.30 16:13:00 - [189] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. I don't see any ringers in that picture just FA getting bent. Dust User for CPM 3.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.30 16:52:00 - [190] - Quote Dust User wrote: :Snip: I don't see pictures of anyone on that team at all. And it's little wonder why. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily

The legend345 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.30 17:39:00 - [191] - Quote Dust User wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. I don't see any ringers in that picture just FA getting bent. I've never seen anything of you but just you pouting on the forums GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà *Uprising God of Tanking* Oculus Rift
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 18:00:00 - [192] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Dust User wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. I don't see any ringers in that picture just FA getting bent. I've never seen anything of you but just you pouting on the forums Because by the time he and his friends took power everyone else quit. MAG had STB Dust had KEQ
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.30 19:23:00 - [193] - Quote Dust User wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. I don't see any ringers in that picture just FA getting bent. I don't see any players in that picture either. For all we know it could be an AE/TP/OH/KEQ/Whatever dream team against 15 Faction Warfare Army and Patrick leading them into glorious victory. Though I'm not going to lie. I have no doubt that we got 5 capped by KEQ at least once. Everyone has off days. However, my distinct memory is that KEQ mostly fielded their top 5 players, and got ringers from other teams to fill it. KEQ didn't earn those victories through gungame or strats, their diplomacy did. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Shiyou Hidiyoshi ZEN KILL Society 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:05:00 - [194] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. Just saying the banished by 0H + AE part is incorrect. AE only had 3 people active for like a year. As for 0H, which 0H are we talking about? Remake 15 or 16? Either way, they did indeed ferry up to 8 0H. Also, Randon Gunsz was beating them too but without ringers, I know because DavidWWE smackdown scumbag wouldn't let me ring for him unless they had a cluster***. "I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masturbat afterwards."* - CCP LockingBro
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:40:00 - [195] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Just saying the banished by 0H + AE part is incorrect. AE only had 3 people active for like a year. As for 0H, which 0H are we talking about? Remake 15 or 16? Either way, they did indeed ferry up to 8 0H. Also, Randon Gunsz was beating them too but without ringers, I know because DavidWWE smackdown scumbag wouldn't let me ring for him unless they had a cluster**. Considering the validity of TP 5 capping 16 KEQ...it should be obvious that quantity < quality. 3 AE + 7-8 Oh = banished by OH + AE. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily**
Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.30 23:32:00 - [196] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. I don't see any ringers in that picture just FA getting bent. I don't see any players in that picture either. For all we know it could be an AE/TP/OH/KEQ/Whatever dream team against 15 Faction Warfare Army and Patrick leading them into glorious victory. Though I'm not going to lie. I have no doubt that we got 5 capped by KEQ at least once. Everyone has off days. However, my distinct memory is that KEQ mostly fielded their top 5 players, and got ringers from other teams to fill it. KEQ didn't earn those victories through gungame or strats, their diplomacy did. FA admits it would require KEQ to make a dream team. Make sure you put that in your book. Dust User for CPM 3.
Mr Machine Guns 1	Posted - 2015.10.31 02:26:00 - [197] - Quote I wish that video of zatara raging in a pc for RND vs AE was still around now that was funny
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5	Posted - 2015.10.31 03:13:00 - [198] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: I wish that video of zatara raging in a pc for RND vs AE was still around now that was funny Wait there's only 1? I'm sure I have access to at least 20. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily
Mr Machine Guns 1	Posted - 2015.10.31 04:00:00 - [199] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: I wish that video of zatara raging in a pc for RND vs AE was still around now that was funny Wait there's only 1? I'm sure I have access to at least 20. I know, I just remember that one was pretty great
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.31 18:26:00 - [200] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running. Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. TP's rise to power could be an interesting tell. TeamPlayers is the probably the most interesting of them all, imo. TP was one of the most dominant forces seen in MH. What separates TP from every other dominant corp is that you never hear any of their places mentioned in most of the greatest of all times lists. I know some of the guys that are frequently listed joined TP at one time or another but that may have been after TP had established their mark. TP not mentioned as the GOAT? are you smoking some kinda new just dubbs? No one who knows wtf they are talking about would argue TP is the GOAT in PC history. TP is still the GOAT in my book. AE would place 2nd. I personally think FA is third all time with OH 4th. And EoN followed by NF with DNS excluded for obvious reasons are the greatest alliances of PC history. Renegade and TSO is actually more of a toss up in my book. I think i wrote that wrong, Z. What i was trying to say was imo, TP is MOST interesting because you never hear any of their "players" mentioned in anyone's all time greatest list. At the same time, TP was the most dominant force in the game. Hooe that cleared :) "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here

DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 668	Posted - 2015.10.31 18:39:00 - [201] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: I wish that video of zatara raging in a pc for RND vs AE was still around now that was funny Wait there's only 1? I'm sure I have access to at least 20. I tend to rage when people don't do what they're told..I don't mind dying but when I'm losing isk cuz someone's got their head up their ass is when it gets me... CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.31 19:35:00 - [202] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: I have a huge archive of old pictures. Chromosome pictures. The beginning of PC and a lot of fights. Only i can see them and im glad i did. I have all of dust's PC history in its entirety on the palm of my hands. I can see who is being biased here. I just wanna point something out to YDUBBS. I know that he is in my corp and has high views of EoN since he was in it but do not say that TP was this dominant force for three months when i have pictures of AE and TP butting heads equally. I was in EoN but I'm not being biased at all. Ahrendee Mercenaries is my corp and I've never placed RND in any of my discussions despite my high regards for my corp. I see corps being mentioned all the time but outside of EoN corps + FA, only AE has a winning record vs us. But I digress...my point is that I'm not biased. I'm speaking from a place of actually being around when all of these things were happening. TP was the most dominant force that MH had seen up until a little after the FEC war. I remember TP and nearly all of the other EoN corps having massive inactivity issues before the FEC war. That war brought some of the guys back. But they died shortly after that week of fights. AE was the next dominant force to hit MH after TP retired. Now, I wasn't there for all of TP vs AE fights to know who was winning most of them. I just know that AE's dominance didn't start until after the tournament. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.31 19:36:00 - [203] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: I wish that video of zatara raging in a pc for RND vs AE was still around now that was funny Wait there's only 1? I'm sure I have access to at least 20. I know, I just remember that one was pretty great Lost a record number of clones but was still a good victory for us. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.31 22:31:00 - [204] - Quote I demand whenever I be brought up that I be referred to as a stripper named SoTa PoP
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.11.01 23:49:00 - [205] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: I demand whenever I be brought up that I be referred to as a stripper named SoTa PoP quoted for obvious ban evasion.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.11.01 23:56:00 - [206] - Quote Dust User wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Might as well just own it. Your guys were banished to pubs by OH + AE. FTFY And I have no qualms about it. Everyone has lull's in activity. "KEQ" still 5 capping FA these days? It's a sprint not a race and when beating a corp on it's last leg using majority ringers is the shining achievement...lol I guess even a blind squirrel get a nut every now and then. Doesn't change the years of emotional damage that lead to such underwhelming bragging rights. I 5 capped KEQ along with 5 TP. I don't see any ringers in that picture just FA getting bent. I don't see any players in that picture either. For all we know it could be an AE/TP/OH/KEQ/Whatever dream team against 15 Faction Warfare Army and Patrick leading them into glorious victory. Though I'm not going to lie. I have no doubt that we got 5 capped by KEQ at least once. Everyone has off days. However, my distinct memory is that KEQ mostly fielded their top 5 players, and got ringers from other teams to fill it. KEQ didn't earn those victories through gungame or strats, their diplomacy did. FA admits it would require KEQ to make a dream team. Make sure you put that in your book. At the time, KEQ had a few players that would be worthy to be on the Anti-FA dream team. Only a few though, 5 at most. For the dream team of all time? Probably not. Actually, what would the all time dream team look like? Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.02 07:55:00 - [207] - Quote There is so many weirdOs playing dust now. I miss the old fights actions speak louder then words.
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.02 07:59:00 - [208] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Suggesting that a 5 cap by KEQ along with a picture is going to cause much of anything other than a yawn is precious. <3 I 5 capped AE and ERA...who hasn't been 5 capped? 187 was never 5 capped... until i left and smashed them with the generals. lol A 5 cap is about as useful in ascertaining the strength of a corp as roman's boat is useful in determining his fishing game. 5 caps determine a corps resolve. Do they fight back? Do they show up to the next match? So what your saying is FA ain't got no resolve or #honor actions speak louder then words.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings RUST415 868	Posted - 2015.11.07 00:19:00 - [209] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: There is so many weirdOs playing dust now. I miss the old fights The Dog Days Are Over LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // *Director of Eternal Beings* // *GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate*
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 224	Posted - 2015.11.09 09:20:00 - [210] - Quote I haven't been around since the beginning, but I can give a brief history of what I remember. When I joined, NS was on top. They were a goddamn powerhouse. No one could even hope to touch them. I didn't really see much activity in MH until I joined Capital though. Being the first corp I joined that actually bothered to PC I was blown away by the skill of these guys. This isn't just me talking out of my ass either. Capital actually held the most MH for a period of time, but we'll get to that later. At some point in time ERA took the most of MH. I don't really recall exactly when, but I know that a lot of the big corps were in the same Alliance. "Big blue donut" it was called. **** started brewing when AE. left the Alliance though. Whether or not they were kicked, or left is not known to me. I just know that a lot of the corps left. Later on Capital started getting into a lot of fights with O.H. I hear that at the time O.H. was on DL's payroll. It was never very serious though, and rarely were districts actually flipped. However, somehow the fighting forged a bond, and the two corps teamed up to wipe out ERA. We took 13 districts in one day. I personally participated in 5-6 PCs that day. After that, nothing really happened that was noteworthy for awhile. Capital lost it's leadership, and we were dormant for the longest time. I don't know if it was before or after we went silent that we managed to take most of MH, but we started giving it away to smaller corps. Now, AE. has returned, and I honestly don't know the future of Dust. To me personally, it seems like corps are rising and dying faster than ever. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.

Mclovin619 101	Posted - 2015.11.09 21:33:00 - [211] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: A mercenaries' history of Molded Heath Is your signature Actually "Ancient exiles. Member"? Your like a loser...go back to Yamah I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve. McLovin for CPBM2
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.11.11 00:43:00 - [212] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: I haven't been around since the beginning, but I can give a brief history of what I remember. When I joined, NS was on top. They were a goddamn powerhouse. No one could even hope to touch them. I didn't really see much activity in MH until I joined Capital though. Being the first corp I joined that actually bothered to PC I was blown away by the skill of these guys. This isn't just me talking out of my ass either. Capital actually held the most MH for a period of time, but we'll get to that later. At some point in time ERA took the most of MH. I don't really recall exactly when, but I know that a lot of the big corps were in the same Alliance. "Big blue donut" it was called. **** started brewing when AE. left the Alliance though. Whether or not they were kicked, or left is not known to me. I just know that a lot of the corps left. Later on Capital started getting into a lot of fights with O.H. I hear that at the time O.H. was on DL's payroll. It was never very serious though, and rarely were districts actually flipped. However, somehow the fighting forged a bond, and the two corps teamed up to wipe out ERA. We took 13 districts in one day. I personally participated in 5-6 PCs that day. After that, nothing really happened that was noteworthy for awhile. Capital lost it's leadership, and we were dormant for the longest time. I don't know if it was before or after we went silent that we managed to take most of MH, but we started giving it away to smaller corps. Now, AE. has returned, and I honestly don't know the future of Dust. To me personally, it seems like corps are rising and dying faster than ever. As far as I know, NS never won a legitimate battle against era, AE, TP, or FA. I don't think that would make them a powerhouse by any stretch, unless you consider only raw resources. The rest of it is vaguely accurate, from what I know. A few paragraphs can be attributed directly to the actions of Kane Sparo.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2015.11.14 23:52:00 - [213] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: I haven't been around since the beginning, but I can give a brief history of what I remember. When I joined, NS was on top. They were a goddamn powerhouse. No one could even hope to touch them. I didn't really see much activity in MH until I joined Capital though. Being the first corp I joined that actually bothered to PC I was blown away by the skill of these guys. This isn't just me talking out of my ass either. Capital actually held the most MH for a period of time, but we'll get to that later. At some point in time ERA took the most of MH. I don't really recall exactly when, but I know that a lot of the big corps were in the same Alliance. "Big blue donut" it was called. **** started brewing when AE. left the Alliance though. Whether or not they were kicked, or left is not known to me. I just know that a lot of the corps left. Later on Capital started getting into a lot of fights with O.H. I hear that at the time O.H. was on DL's payroll. It was never very serious though, and rarely were districts actually flipped. However, somehow the fighting forged a bond, and the two corps teamed up to wipe out ERA. We took 13 districts in one day. I personally participated in 5-6 PCs that day. After that, nothing really happened that was noteworthy for awhile. Capital lost it's leadership, and we were dormant for the longest time. I don't know if it was before or after we went silent that we managed to take most of MH, but we started giving it away to smaller corps. Now, AE. has returned, and I honestly don't know the future of Dust. To me personally, it seems like corps are rising and dying faster than ever. wait..what?? "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 00:12:00 - [214] - Quote Interesting reading, this thread. If there's to be an accounting of MH and the corps who've thrived there then it would be very incomplete without CALLC. I'd have to think back a bit but if it's wanted I could provide some insight to the internal workings during my time as a director there. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Arunis Gen G I A N T 190	Posted - 2015.11.17 06:28:00 - [215] - Quote I helped Tso's get into PC. Not proud of it. Enjoyed the suck too much. `~_~-G I A N T for Life-~_~ ~_~-Bitter Veteran-~_~`
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings RUST415 878	Posted - 2015.11.17 07:07:00 - [216] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: I haven't been around since the beginning, but I can give a brief history of what I remember. When I joined, NS was on top. They were a goddamn powerhouse. No one could even hope to touch them. I didn't really see much activity in MH until I joined Capital Acquisition though. Being the first corp I joined that actually bothered to PC I was blown away by the skill of these guys. This isn't just me talking out of my ass either. CAP actually held the most MH for a period of time, but we'll get to that later. At the most pivotal point in time related to FF 14' (The Rouge Wedding), DNS took 98% of MH. I don't really recall exactly when, but I know that a lot of the big corps were in the same Alliance. "The One True Empire" it was called. ** started brewing when AE. left the Alliance though. Right about when Zatara and Fatal Absolution followed through on their original plan to kill DNS internally prior to being bought out. (LARGE FU+ºKING GAP BUT) long story short Fatal Absolution takes over 36% MH while in General Tso's Alliance... Later on Shep Grey petitioned to Zatara for Fatal Absolution to give up land to TSO's equally; Zatara approved by reducing down to 10%. On the surface, Cap was getting into a lot of fights with O.H. I hear that at the time O.H. was on DL's payroll. It was never very serious though, and rarely were districts actually flipped. However, Shep and OH leadership alongside TOP struck a deal that would send Roman's boat crashing into ruin, Fatal Absolution and OH into an un-ressolveable blood feud, leading to the remission of Fatal Absolution, and the death of Murphy's-Law, Molon Label; TSO Alliance was defeated. We took 13 districts in one day. I personally participated in 5-6 PCs that day. After that, nothing really happened that was noteworthy for awhile. Capital lost it's leadership, and we were dormant for the longest time. I don't know if it was before or after we went silent that we managed to take most of MH, but we started giving it away to smaller corps. Now, NF fractioned into a new AE? I honestly don't know the future of Dust. To me personally, it seems like corps are rising and dying faster than ever. FTFY. It seems your a little off in some (ALOT of) notes. LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // Director of Eternal Beings // GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate**
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.17 10:10:00 - [217] - Quote Arunis Gen wrote: I helped Tso's get into PC. Not proud of it. Enjoyed the suck too much. and i showed them the door. actions speak louder then words.
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 238	Posted - 2015.11.17 13:02:00 - [218] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Kail Mako wrote: I haven't been around since the beginning, but I can give a brief history of what I remember. When I joined, NS was on top. They were a goddamn Farmhouse. No one could even hope to touch them with those timers set at 09:00 UTC. I didn't really see much activity in MH until I joined Capital Acquisition though. Being the first corp I joined that actually bothered to PC I was blown away by the skill of these guys. This isn't just me talking out of my ass either. CAP actually held the most MH for a period of time, but we'll get to that later. At the most pivotal point in time related to FF 14' (The Rouge Wedding), DNS took 98% of MH. I don't really recall exactly when, but I know that a lot of the big corps were in the same Alliance. "The One True Empire" it was called. **** started brewing when AE. left the Alliance though. Right about when Zatara and Fatal Absolution followed through on their original plan to kill DNS internally prior to being bought out. (LARGE FU+ºKING GAP BUT) long story short Fatal Absolution takes over 36% MH while in General Tso's Alliance... Later on Shep Grey petitioned to Zatara for Fatal Absolution to give up land to TSO's equally; Zatara approved by reducing down to 10%. On the surface, Cap was getting into a lot of fights with O.H. I hear that at the time O.H. was on DL's payroll. It was never very serious though, and rarely were districts actually flipped. However, Shep and OH leadership, alongside TOP and KEQ, struck a chord that would send Roman's boat crashing into ruin, Fatal Absolution and OH into an un-ressolveable blood feud, leading to the remission of Fatal Absolution, and the death of Murphy's-Law and Molon Label; TSO Alliance was defeated. We took 13 districts in one day. I personally participated in 5-6 PCs that day. After that, nothing really happened that was noteworthy for awhile. Capital lost it's leadership, and we were dormant for the longest time. I don't know if it was before or after we went silent that we managed to take most of MH, but we started giving it away to smaller corps. (ANOTHER LARGE FU+ºKING GAP) long story short FA awakens to war with OH... OH almost wipes them out Silly Rabbit breaks off FA to save FA by (becoming FAAAAaaaAAAmous ) resurrecting Negative-Feedback with Kane Spero OH almost wipes out FA (again) FA asks NF for help NF allies with FA to stop OH's warmongering OH is losing at this point... horribly NF decides to spare OH NF takes in OH refugees NF implodes due to this and fractions off to become a new AE, others return to FA AE takes in the same refugees it imploded over to wipe-out OH for good, as well as exhort peaceful corporations. Radar comes back and mercy kills OH Meanwhile...Capital was in Egbringer VII, sipping on mimosas... untouched I honestly don't know the future of Dust. To me personally, it seems like corps are rising and dying faster than ever. FTFY. It seems your a little off in some notes. Thanks for that. Tbh, not being in a leadership position, and ignoring a lot of the Dust politics I had no clue what other corps were doing if there wasn't a large movement. It's good to hear that there was actually a lot more backroom politics, and friendships than I realized. Or is that bad? I still think that NS was dangerous. At their height all of my channels would start lighting up warning me to stay out of ambush because they were stomping. No other corp has ever inspired that sort of fear. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.11.19 03:19:00 - [219] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Kail Mako wrote: I haven't been around since the beginning, but I can give a brief history of what I remember. When I joined, NS was on top. They were a goddamn Farmhouse. No one could even hope to touch them with those timers set at 09:00 UTC. I didn't really see much activity in MH until I joined Capital Acquisition though. Being the first corp I joined that actually bothered to PC I was blown away by the skill of these guys. This isn't just me talking out of my ass either. CAP actually held the most MH for a period of time, but we'll get to that later. At the most pivotal point in time related to FF 14' (The Rouge Wedding), DNS took 98% of MH. I don't really recall exactly when, but I know that a lot of the big corps were in the same Alliance. "The One True Empire" it was called. **** started brewing when AE. left the Alliance though. Right about when Zatara and Fatal Absolution followed through on their original plan to kill DNS internally prior to being bought out. (LARGE FU+ºKING GAP BUT) long story short Fatal Absolution takes over 36% MH while in General Tso's Alliance... Later on Shep Grey petitioned to Zatara for Fatal Absolution to give up land to TSO's equally; Zatara approved by reducing down to 10%. On the surface, Cap was getting into a lot of fights with O.H. I hear that at the time O.H. was on DL's payroll. It was never very serious though, and rarely were districts actually flipped. However, Shep and OH leadership, alongside TOP and KEQ, struck a chord that would send Roman's boat crashing into ruin, Fatal Absolution and OH into an un-ressolveable blood feud, leading to the remission of Fatal Absolution, and the death of Murphy's-Law and Molon Label; TSO Alliance was defeated. We took 13 districts in one day. I personally participated in 5-6 PCs that day. After that, nothing really happened that was noteworthy for awhile. Capital lost it's leadership, and we were dormant for the longest time. I don't know if it was before or after we went silent that we managed to take most of MH, but we started giving it away to smaller corps. (ANOTHER LARGE FU+ºKING GAP) long story short FA awakens to war with OH... OH almost wipes them out Silly Rabbit breaks off FA to save FA by (becoming FAAAAaaaAAAmous ) resurrecting Negative-Feedback with Kane Spero OH almost wipes out FA (again) FA asks NF for help NF allies with FA to stop OH's warmongering OH is losing at this point... horribly NF decides to spare OH NF takes in OH refugees NF implodes due to this and fractions off to become a new AE, others return to FA AE takes in the same refugees it imploded over to wipe-out OH for good, as well as exhort [extort?] peaceful corporations. Radar comes back and mercy kills OH Meanwhile...Capital was in Egbringer VII, sipping on mimosas... untouched I honestly don't know the future of Dust. To me personally, it seems like corps are rising and dying faster than ever. FTFY. It seems your a little off in some notes. You're not much better, insofar as CA goes. You're at 100% on self-promotion tho. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
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xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1	Posted - 2016.01.15 08:53:00 - [221] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Kail Mako wrote: I haven't been around since the beginning, but I can give a brief history of what I remember. When I joined, NS was on top. They were a goddamn Farmhouse. No one could even hope to touch them with those timers set at 09:00 UTC. I didn't really see much activity in MH until I joined Capital Acquisition though. Being the first corp I joined that actually bothered to PC I was blown away by the skill of these guys. This isn't just me talking out of my ass either. CAP actually held the most MH for a period of time, but we'll get to that later. At the most pivotal point in time related to FF 14' (The Rouge Wedding), DNS took 98% of MH. I don't really recall exactly when, but I know that a lot of the big corps were in the same Alliance. "The One True Empire" it was called. ** started brewing when AE. left the Alliance though. Right about when Zatara and Fatal Absolution followed through on their original plan to kill DNS internally prior to being bought out. (LARGE FU+ºKING GAP BUT) long story short Fatal Absolution takes over 36% MH while in General Tso's Alliance... Later on Shep Grey petitioned to Zatara for Fatal Absolution to give up land to TSO's equally; Zatara approved by reducing down to 10%. On the surface, Cap was getting into a lot of fights with O.H. I hear that at the time O.H. was on DL's payroll. It was never very serious though, and rarely were districts actually flipped. However, Shep and OH leadership, alongside TOP and KEQ, struck a chord that would send Roman's boat crashing into ruin, Fatal Absolution and OH into an un-ressolveable blood feud, leading to the remission of Fatal Absolution, and the death of Murphy's-Law and Molon Label; TSO Alliance was defeated. We took 13 districts in one day. I personally participated in 5-6 PCs that day. After that, nothing really happened that was noteworthy for awhile. Capital lost it's leadership, and we were dormant for the longest time. I don't know if it was before or after we went silent that we managed to take most of MH, but we started giving it away to smaller corps. (ANOTHER LARGE FU+ºKING GAP) long story short FA awakens to war with OH... OH almost wipes them out Silly Rabbit breaks off FA to save FA by (becoming FAAAAaaaAAAmous ) resurrecting Negative-Feedback with Kane Spero OH almost wipes out FA (again) FA asks NF for help NF allies with FA to stop OH's warmongering OH is losing at this point... horribly NF decides to spare OH NF takes in OH refugees NF implodes due to this and fractions off to become a new AE, others return to FA AE takes in the same refugees it imploded over to wipe-out OH for good, as well as exhort [extort?] peaceful corporations. Radar comes back and mercy kills OH Meanwhile...Capital was in Egbringer VII, sipping on mimosas... untouched I honestly don't know the future of Dust. To me personally, it seems like corps are rising and dying faster than ever. FTFY. It seems your a little off in some notes. You're not much better, insofar as CA goes. You're at 100% on self-promotion tho. I was in the same channel voiced with Zatara when Shep Grey asked for Districts. Ask him yourself. For him to deny it would be an outright lie. Even he had to start somewhere. LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // Director of Eternal Beings // GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate**
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.01.15 18:33:00 - [222] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: I was in the same channel voiced with Zatara when Shep Grey asked for Districts. Ask him yourself. For him to deny it would be an outright lie. Even he had to start somewhere. While you may well have been listening in on their convo, the greater context and implications at that time you are very obviously unaware of. Which is okay, it's probably better that way. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 366	Posted - 2016.01.15 18:36:00 - [223] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: I was in the same channel voiced with Zatara when Shep Grey asked for Districts. Ask him yourself. For him to deny it would be an outright lie. Even he had to start somewhere. While you may well have been listening in on their convo, the greater context and implications at that time you are very obviously unaware of. Which is okay, it's probably better that way. Oh my god, does it matter? No! The point is, the general history, not backroom politics. At some point DNS was in charge. It died, and Tso's took over. It died. Somewhere along the way FA had the most districts, and then Cap had the most districts. Let's make sure we all agree on the big points before arguing about who did, or said what. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.01.15 19:00:00 - [224] - Quote The politics IS the history, Kail. Whether bought, bartered or battled over the transference of ownership in MH is all political. The starmap is the illustrations to the story. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 366	Posted - 2016.01.15 20:17:00 - [225] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: The politics IS the history, Kail. Whether bought, bartered or battled over the transference of ownership in MH is all political. The starmap is the illustrations to the story. You seem to think that the history of MH is the history of dust. While the most visible part, there's a lot more to it than that. I'd rather read something compiled by a bunch of mercs about their way through Dust, than something written by a bunch of mercs about MH. That could be a chapter, but everyone who's even been half paying attention knows the history of MH. Also, quit being a rage-quitter, and get your ass back in Cap when 1.3 drops. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.01.15 20:50:00 - [226] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: The politics IS the history, Kail. Whether bought, bartered or battled over the transference of ownership in MH is all political. The starmap is the illustrations to the story. You seem to think that the history of MH is the history of dust. While the most visible part, there's a lot more to it than that. I'd rather read something compiled by a bunch of mercs about their way through Dust, than something written by a bunch of mercs about MH. That could be a chapter, but everyone who's even been half paying attention knows the history of MH. Also, quit being a rage-quitter, and get your ass back in Cap when 1.3 drops. I don't disagree, which is why the starmap is just the pictures. Individual Independence is just as political as Affiliation Allegiance, in experience and practice. End of the day tho it's relationships and their results whatever the basis or depth of those relationships is. And "rage-quit" is a poor characterization of my withdrawal. I didn't leave out of rage or anger. Things were just such that the best thing for me was to go. The decision wasn't easy or immediate and while more abrupt than I had intended ultimately circumstances were what they were. I'm a low-pro and drama-free kind of guy in RL and keep my GL the same. Its a self-respect thing. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.01.15 20:59:00 - [227] - Quote I question how much "place" there'd be for me in NewCap anyway, I've been nomad for a while. Not to mention 1.3 isn't a PS4 port unfortunately. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 9	Posted - 2016.01.16 07:42:00 - [228] - Quote Sadly for this the best stories are the ones never told. I stop playing video games, I don't "retire" Buying dead and inactive corporations
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.01.16 16:43:00 - [229] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sadly for this the best stories are the ones never told. The results on PC and DUST in general are pretty obvious though. https://www.google.com/search?q=x+files+the+truth+is+out+there+gif&tbm=isch&ei=QHKaVs-6HcbMjwPZ85HgAw&start=40&sa=N#mhpiv=16 Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.01.17 22:26:00 - [230] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: I was in the same channel voiced with Zatara when Shep Grey asked for Districts. Ask him yourself. For him to deny it would be an outright lie. Even he had to start somewhere. While you may well have been listening in on their convo, the greater context and implications at that time you are very obviously unaware of. Which is okay, it's probably better that way. Oh my god, does it matter? No! The point is, the general history, not backroom politics. At some point DNS was in charge. It died, and Tso's took over. It died. Somewhere along the way FA had the most districts, and then Cap had the most districts. Let's make sure we all agree on the big points before arguing about who did, or said what. Actually..including backroom politics is really the point. When I started this thread, I wasn't talking about a summary of Dust's history in MH. I was talking about a series based on what happened in MH. So, imagine Star Wars as a tv series....but based on Dust. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here

Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 79	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:54:00 - [231] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Roman837 wrote: Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies. Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat. Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in. Like no Parthok When(if) the infamous failed VF attempt gets brought up, contact me or Moppchopper Sneaktoots as I handled some of their diplomacy. I agree bro. those who at this point think of no unity are idiots I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.
Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 79	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:55:00 - [232] - Quote Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Roman837 wrote: Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies. Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat. Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in. Like no Parthok When(if) the infamous failed VF attempt gets brought up, contact me or Moppchopper Sneaktoots as I handled some of their diplomacy. I agree bro. those who at this point think of no unity are idiots long live the space pope I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.
Eugene Killmore Red Star. 566	Posted - 2016.02.05 23:02:00 - [233] - Quote History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;) Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
Dust User Opus Arcana 3	Posted - 2016.02.06 01:41:00 - [234] - Quote Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Dust User for CPM 3.
Eugene Killmore Red Star. 566	Posted - 2016.02.06 08:30:00 - [235] - Quote Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. DDB is a reference only crappy players such as yourself would understand I'm guessing? EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;) Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
CUSE TOWN333 Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 3	Posted - 2016.02.06 10:25:00 - [236] - Quote Eugene Killmore wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. DDB is a reference only crappy players such as yourself would understand I'm guessing? Dem Durty Boyz=Red Star. As in weakist corp in the alliance to be backpacked by others. Vanu master race. CBM ghost army
Eugene Killmore Red Star. 566	Posted - 2016.02.06 11:48:00 - [237] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. DDB is a reference only crappy players such as yourself would understand I'm guessing? Dem Durty Boyz=Red Star. As in weakist corp in the alliance to be backpacked by others. I guess that was the key to Eons success our "weakest" corps could still mollywop 90% of Molden Heath at the time. Keep throwing shade tho it suits you lames. EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;) Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
Raz0rs Edge Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 75	Posted - 2016.02.06 12:16:00 - [238] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. DDB is a reference only crappy players such as yourself would understand I'm guessing? Dem Durty Boyz=Red Star. As in weakist corp in the alliance to be backpacked by others. in terms of power rankings, the weakest corps in EoN. that held districts (that I can remember) would be GIANT, The Generals, and Intrepidus XI "jesus yall still play this? smh" -Mavado V Noriega
Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 83	Posted - 2016.02.08 14:28:00 - [239] - Quote Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Roman837 wrote: Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies. Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat. Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in. Like no Parthok When(if) the infamous failed VF attempt gets brought up, contact me or Moppchopper Sneaktoots as I handled some of their diplomacy. I agree bro. those who at this point think of no unity are idiots long live the space pope Okay,how about this,I'll take this on and as an example of the type of writing I would like to see I will write about myself first.I actually had a reminiscent blah blah about myself just last week as I was welcoming some new members to my Skype group which is dedicated to both Eve and Dust. This type of project is pretty much what I do there on a daily basis except the group is not dedicated to one but medias of all sorts and is a place for geniuses to meet and collaborate on anything they wish.Everyone there knows it is a place for inspiration and like minds. Okay,so in order not have this become a never ending story,a debate or be redundant and talk about things we all know or have read here in the war room before entries should be made by pc ringers.These individuals have at some point helped a many corps in true mercenary fashion and in this way are unbiased already.I will give examples of these types in my own entry which I will post below. I think that should serve as the rules for your entries but ill include that the purpose of this project is not about detailed history as that has been done before in this very war room. I will go first and try not to leave anyone out but can't promise I wont,having 1500 contacts this is bound to happen. Eve/Dust 514 The Experiences Chapter 1 I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.
Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 83	Posted - 2016.02.08 14:47:00 - [240] - Quote Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Roman837 wrote: Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies. Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat. Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in. Like no Parthok When(if) the infamous failed VF attempt gets brought up, contact me or Moppchopper Sneaktoots as I handled some of their diplomacy. I agree bro. those who at this point think of no unity are idiots long live the space pope Okay,how about this,I'll take this on and as an example of the type of writing I would like to see I will write about myself first.I actually had a reminiscent blah blah about myself just last week as I was welcoming some new members to my Skype group which is dedicated to both Eve and Dust. This type of project is pretty much what I do there on a daily basis except the group is not dedicated to one but medias of all sorts and is a place for geniuses to meet and collaborate on anything they wish.Everyone there knows it is a place for inspiration and like minds. Okay,so in order not have this become a never ending story,a debate or be redundant and talk about things we all know or have read here in the war room before entries should be made by pc ringers.These individuals have at some point helped a many corps in true mercenary fashion and in this way are unbiased already.I will give examples of these types in my own entry which I will post below. I think that should serve as the rules for your entries but ill include that the purpose of this project is not about detailed history as that has been done before in this very war room. I will go first and try not to leave anyone out but can't promise I wont,having 1500 contacts this is bound to happen. Eve/Dust 514 Experiences Chapter 1 on second thought,this might be easier found and more appropriate as a new topic I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.

Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 83	Posted - 2016.02.08 15:41:00 - [241] - Quote [2/6/16 06:51:44 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Morning all [2/6/16 06:51:59 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Morning sweetie! [2/6/16 06:53:25 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Y dust character Moppchopper Sneaktoots just hit 101,000,000 million lifetime skill points=ƒÿè [2/6/16 06:53:33 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: My* [2/6/16 06:53:39 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Woot! [2/6/16 06:53:50 AM] Max Singularity: good morning [2/6/16 06:54:06 AM] Max Singularity: congrats on the skill points... catch up kid! [2/6/16 06:54:16 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Lol [2/6/16 06:54:19 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Ty [2/6/16 06:54:22 AM] Rhiannon Williams: I haz 2 100mill + toons [2/6/16 06:54:30 AM] Max Singularity: 156m [2/6/16 06:54:38 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Wow [2/6/16 06:54:39 AM] Rhiannon Williams: TBBBT [2/6/16 06:55:08 AM] Max Singularity: and I'm still doing level 3 missions [2/6/16 06:55:19 AM] Rhiannon Williams: snort [2/6/16 06:55:22 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Good job.ive taken too much time off.lol [2/6/16 06:57:02 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: My other characters are used for spying for lack of a better word.hee hee [2/6/16 06:57:29 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Nowt wrong with spais! [2/6/16 06:58:54 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Six accounts with three toons each [2/6/16 06:59:25 AM] Max Singularity: Impressive [2/6/16 06:59:30 AM] Rhiannon Williams: 6 accounts too [2/6/16 06:59:55 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Nice [2/6/16 07:00:06 AM] Max Singularity: I have 4, only 3 subbed [2/6/16 07:00:39 AM] Max Singularity: The fourth account I fired up to use my full real name, that made it in time on the EVE Monument. hehehe [2/6/16 07:01:41 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Looks great btw [2/6/16 07:03:20 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Being in leadership most of mopps life he probably has more playing time off of the battlefield by now.lol [2/6/16 07:04:16 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Mopp does I mean [2/6/16 07:06:40 AM] Rhiannon Williams: I know the feeling [2/6/16 07:08:32 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: I loved it,running security,hiring,diplomacy meetings,teaching people how build their suits,battle planning for PC ect [2/6/16 07:38:44 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Oh and mail,mail,mail and more mail.lol [2/6/16 07:39:01 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Oh yes! [2/6/16 07:53:58 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: I think my time at G0DS AM0NG MEN taught me the most.It being my second time in leadership and I really have to give credit to Her Nibs. [2/6/16 07:54:11 AM] Rhiannon Williams: O0? [2/6/16 07:56:49 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Her Nibs is one of the most underestimated and smartest CEOs I've ever met.She really taught me alot.Though it ended badly,I can't deny the experience I got there was priceless. [2/6/16 07:57:03 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Cool [2/6/16 07:58:20 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: I applied there when 501st Headstrong was ceo [2/6/16 08:00:17 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Ah ok [2/6/16 08:01:01 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: I went on to join him at Vader's-Fist.That was the adventure of a lifetime,and where I met my good friend benandjerrys.You all know him here as the beege [2/6/16 08:01:15 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Bless him [2/6/16 08:04:00 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: I gladly started from the bottom once again and quickly made director just after we acquired our first district [2/6/16 08:04:23 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Useful to go back to basics sometimes [2/6/16 08:06:45 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: It is.Gaining the respect of your members along the way being most of my mission in doing so. [2/6/16 08:07:20 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: our [2/6/16 08:09:20 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Helping to create coalitions that still exist to this day just before I left gam helped as well [2/6/16 08:09:43 AM] Rhiannon Williams: A diplo's work is never done lol [2/6/16 08:10:34 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: In deed.lol.The friends I made still contact me for help. [2/6/16 08:12:17 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Contacts....mmm...contacts [2/6/16 08:13:21 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Hence,why I have alts in all of the top corps and alliances in planetary conquest to this day. [2/6/16 08:14:57 AM] Rhiannon Williams: hehehe [2/6/16 08:16:49 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Being bilingual ,a diplo and friendly no doubt a plus and hard to find apparently. [2/6/16 08:17:03 AM] Rhiannon Williams: I don't dout! [2/6/16 08:29:44 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: 501st Headstrong anticipating the end of his Dust career left to help his friends at Outer Heaven and handed the position of CEO to Ben who soon after handed it to me.Love you Ben and ty. [2/6/16 08:33:12 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Sorry,I've been talking about myself too much but I've been sitting here reminiscing about about the great time I've had on the wonderful game.I will remember it forever in good light. [2/6/16 08:33:32 AM] Rhiannon Williams: And why shouldn'tyou? [2/6/16 08:36:38 AM] the beege: Well finally have some time to keep writing [2/6/16 08:37:22 AM] Rhiannon Williams: nice [2/6/16 08:39:15 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Ben is no doubt a pioneer for Dust 514 and Eve.gg bro [2/6/16 08:39:21 AM] the beege: Moppchopper Sneaktoots - Today 11:29 AM > 501st Headstrong anticipating the end of his Dust career left to help his friends at Outer Heaven and handed the position of CEO to Ben who soon after handed it to me.Love you Ben and ty. I had no time for propaganda with cat herding on EvE/Dust side [2/6/16 08:40:30 AM] the beege: But the crap filtering came by itself [2/6/16 08:40:56 AM] the beege: Anyone who wanted to stay informed was retained [2/6/16 08:41:36 AM] the beege: Vader's was definitely a house built with no foundation [2/6/16 08:41:36 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: It was a battle in and of its self,this is true [2/6/16 08:42:13 AM] the beege: Hence our months of prep here [2/6/16 08:46:44 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Continue,gonna take a back seat for the moment.I think I spoken everyone's ear off enough for today.=ƒÿè I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.
Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 83	Posted - 2016.02.08 15:44:00 - [242] - Quote [2/6/16 08:46:59 AM] Rhiannon Williams: lol [2/6/16 08:52:02 AM] the beege: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3098496#post3098496 [2/6/16 08:52:35 AM] the beege: Time to bog this chat down [2/6/16 08:53:00 AM] the beege: After all op sec is not disclosed here [2/6/16 08:53:17 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Heh [2/6/16 08:54:28 AM] the beege: Didn't hear your critique on prose [2/6/16 08:56:26 AM] Rhiannon Williams: I liked it, Max & I love the speech [2/6/16 08:58:51 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Oh really quick and btw a big ty to demens and our friends at Ancient Exiles for helping to take the pressure off of us just as the strings were being pulled and the **** hit the fan.love you too bro. [2/6/16 09:00:32 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Kk .now im done.lol [2/6/16 09:06:05 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Continue =ƒÿè [2/6/16 09:10:43 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Will resend you the password here again in a bit in case you need it [2/6/16 09:18:51 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Some epic music for your background I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.
SoLJae Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 782	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:13:00 - [243] - Quote Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: [2/6/16 08:46:59 AM] Rhiannon Williams: lol [2/6/16 08:52:02 AM] the beege: [2/6/16 08:52:35 AM] the beege: Time to bog this chat down [2/6/16 08:53:00 AM] the beege: After all op sec is not disclosed here [2/6/16 08:53:17 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Heh [2/6/16 08:54:28 AM] the beege: Didn't hear your critique on prose [2/6/16 08:56:26 AM] Rhiannon Williams: I liked it, Max & I love the speech [2/6/16 08:58:51 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Oh really quick and btw a big ty to demens and our friends at Ancient Exiles for helping to take the pressure off of us just as the strings were being pulled and the **** hit the fan.love you too bro. [2/6/16 09:00:32 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Kk .now im done.lol [2/6/16 09:06:05 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Continue =ƒÿè [2/6/16 09:10:43 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Will resend you the password here again in a bit in case you need it [2/6/16 09:18:51 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Some epic music for your background You da mane, Mopp! Was a pleasure serving with you. Gonna wear these colors to the end!
CUSE TOWN333 Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 4	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:45:00 - [244] - Quote What is all that gibberish Vanu master race. CBM ghost army
benandjerrys WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.08 19:07:00 - [245] - Quote Cuse here's the tldr... Kiss the ring or don't have ob support available in mh. Gud fights are to be had in the last days hope you'll hop on and collaborate or counter. The butthurt is strong #bringbackjadek
Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 85	Posted - 2016.02.08 21:57:00 - [246] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Moppchopper Sneaktoots wrote: [2/6/16 08:46:59 AM] Rhiannon Williams: lol [2/6/16 08:52:02 AM] the beege: [2/6/16 08:52:35 AM] the beege: Time to bog this chat down [2/6/16 08:53:00 AM] the beege: After all op sec is not disclosed here [2/6/16 08:53:17 AM] Rhiannon Williams: Heh [2/6/16 08:54:28 AM] the beege: Didn't hear your critique on prose [2/6/16 08:56:26 AM] Rhiannon Williams: I liked it, Max & I love the speech [2/6/16 08:58:51 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Oh really quick and btw a big ty to demens and our friends at Ancient Exiles for helping to take the pressure off of us just as the strings were being pulled and the **** hit the fan.love you too bro. [2/6/16 09:00:32 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Kk .now im done.lol [2/6/16 09:06:05 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Continue =ƒÿè [2/6/16 09:10:43 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Will resend you the password here again in a bit in case you need it [2/6/16 09:18:51 AM] Moppchopper Sneaktoots: Some epic music for your background You da mane, Mopp! Was a pleasure serving with you. Gonna wear these colors to the end! Like wise a pleasure of coarse.Good times I'll never forget.=ƒÿè 07 I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.
Moppchopper Sneaktoots The Last True Gods Sixth Empire 85	Posted - 2016.02.10 07:22:00 - [247] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: What is all that gibberish That was meant for a different topic and some how ended up here.lol. Anyway,please continue.I think there was about to be a little ring kissing....hmmm I invented the ambush victory mosh pit and officer hour.stfu.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.10 13:20:00 - [248] - Quote Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 15:43:00 - [249] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 People always seem to forget how deep EoN.s roster was. When the LoI war started, we went into it assuming that the Hellstorm/TP matches were going to be somewhat of a push and that the rest of the alliance would dominate everyone else. Those matches were not a push and the war ended rather quickly, mostly on the back of the remaining players of the rest of the alliance. EoN. was already starting to burn out at that point... At the end of the chronos war was probably the peak of the alliances power across all corps. TP just surged a little later because we were nuts and had 13-14 guys that could make every single match and wanted to play 4-5 battles a night for 3-4 months... Probably why we get more credit than we deserve for EoN.s success, we had a great deal of visibility.
CUSE TOWN333 Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 4	Posted - 2016.02.10 15:53:00 - [250] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 lol your kidding right. Vanu master race. CBM ghost army

SoLJae Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 782	Posted - 2016.02.10 16:07:00 - [251] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion
Flyingconejo Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 21:43:00 - [252] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion -Hellstorm (Kujo era) -Outer Heaven -PFB -Imperfects-Negative Feedback -Seraphim Initiative
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 21:59:00 - [253] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion WTF is the only one on that list that is accurate, but I think R* would win 4-2 in a seven game series. NS was always garbage. Never got the chance to play against the Aussies.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 22:14:00 - [254] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion -Hellstorm (Kujo era) -Outer Heaven -PFB -Imperfects-Negative Feedback -Seraphim Initiative Hellstorm before the split would have beat redstar. OH... Maybe? TP demolished their Corp in 9 straight victories, I'm sure R* would have won more than a few of a 9 game series against them. Imperfects DID play against RS. Very very close loss, so I'll give you that one. As for SI, there was a ton of matches against chronos during that war... I'm not sure who fought the bulk of them against SI, but I know it wasn't us. I'm going to assume that it was either redstar or synergy. Either way, SI was pretty good back then, but they still lost the war. PFB was strong... As strong as the tac AR was at the time. We played against them once(15+Sha running a counter-uplink scout build). We hadn't quite got a grasp on the game at that point yet and they beat us pretty handily. That match changed our approach to battles. Their tactics were pretty basic, Sha was the only one trying to play the uplink game that dominated the majority of early PC. I think that they would beat RS on the back of their top tier slayers, much in the way that imperfect did.
Flyingconejo Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 22:39:00 - [255] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Flyingconejo wrote: -Hellstorm (Kujo era) -Outer Heaven -PFB -Imperfects-Negative Feedback -Seraphim Initiative Hellstorm before the split would have beat redstar. OH... Maybe? TP demolished their Corp in 9 straight victories, I'm sure R* would have won more than a few of a 9 game series against them. Imperfects DID play against RS. Very very close loss, so I'll give you that one. As for SI, there was a ton of matches against chronos during that war... I'm not sure who fought the bulk of them against SI, but I know it wasn't us. I'm going to assume that it was either redstar or synergy. Either way, SI was pretty good back then, but they still lost the war. PFB was strong... As strong as the tac AR was at the time. We played against them once(15+Sha running a counter-uplink scout build). We hadn't quite got a grasp on the game at that point yet and they beat us pretty handily. That match changed our approach to battles. Their tactics were pretty basic, Sha was the only one trying to play the uplink game that dominated the majority of early PC. I think that they would beat RS on the back of their top tier slayers, much in the way that imperfect did. Hey, Dubbs challenged us to name 4 contemporary corps that could beat RS. I think I have answered correctly to the challenge, with one to spare. The most doubtful one could be Outer Heaven, which was not as strong at that time as it would become later. But even then, I fought and was defeated by both corps a lot during those times, and I think OH was stronger. 4-2 for OH vs RS. I'm probably forgetting some corp or another, but it's been such a long time. :p
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 384	Posted - 2016.02.11 21:25:00 - [256] - Quote Uh... Before we play this game, could I get a list of all of the EoN corps? Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:30:00 - [257] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion 1. Would go back and forth but Red Star would've won more\ 2. Red Star 3. Everyone was beating Nyain San back in the day 4. You have to be kidding me. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.12 14:53:00 - [258] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion -Hellstorm (Kujo era) -Outer Heaven -PFB -Imperfects-Negative Feedback -Seraphim Initiative Those are goods ones......but to say Red Star (during their prime) was weak is just ridiculous. Anyone of these 5 could have been beaten by Red Star. You guys must have forgotton their roster. K-con, Hiro Liberty, Revoltz, Eugene, Arirana....not to mention they had great vehicle game. People think of EoN and remember TP only. But forget there were top corps in that alliance. It wasn't like the Orion alliance or the Cronos alliance where SI and WTF were the only ones who could compete on that top level. EoN had at least 4 corps that could. Just so happens that TP stood out and they were out for blood :) "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.12 15:07:00 - [259] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: [ People always seem to forget how deep EoN.s roster was. When the LoI war started, we went into it assuming that the Hellstorm/TP matches were going to be somewhat of a push and that the rest of the alliance would dominate everyone else. Those matches were not a push and the war ended rather quickly, mostly on the back of the remaining players of the rest of the alliance. EoN. was already starting to burn out at that point... At the end of the chronos war was probably the peak of the alliances power across all corps. TP just surged a little later because we were nuts and had 13-14 guys that could make every single match and wanted to play 4-5 battles a night for 3-4 months... Probably why we get more credit than we deserve for EoN.s success, we had a great deal of visibility. People forget that LOI was stacked at that time. The dust community was evenly split. EoN and LOI were the biggest competitive alliances out. At that time, Hellstorm was looking really good. They also had Outer.Heaven, Pro Hic, Anonymous, and like 3 or 4 more other corps. This is when RND joined EoN. EoN had TP, SyN, RS, GEN, RND and a few smaller corps. I thought that the EoN-LOI war would have been the sickest war of to date because we were evenly matched. Well, on the surface of popularity it looked even. Because LOI had Hellstorm and OH as their headlining corps. And EoN had TP and SyN as their headlning corps. But RND and RS would have probably wiped out the remaining corps. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 22:38:00 - [260] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: [ People always seem to forget how deep EoN.s roster was. When the LoI war started, we went into it assuming that the Hellstorm/TP matches were going to be somewhat of a push and that the rest of the alliance would dominate everyone else. Those matches were not a push and the war ended rather quickly, mostly on the back of the remaining players of the rest of the alliance. EoN. was already starting to burn out at that point... At the end of the chronos war was probably the peak of the alliances power across all corps. TP just surged a little later because we were nuts and had 13-14 guys that could make every single match and wanted to play 4-5 battles a night for 3-4 months... Probably why we get more credit than we deserve for EoN.s success, we had a great deal of visibility. People forget that LOI was stacked at that time. The dust community was evenly split. EoN and LOI were the biggest competitive alliances out. At that time, Hellstorm was looking really good. They also had Outer.Heaven, Pro Hic, Anonymous, and like 3 or 4 more other corps. This is when RND joined EoN. EoN had TP, SyN, RS, GEN, RND and a few smaller corps. I thought that the EoN-LOI war would have been the sickest war of to date because we were evenly matched. Well, on the surface of popularity it looked even. Because LOI had Hellstorm and OH as their headlining corps. And EoN had TP and SyN as their headlning corps. But RND and RS would have probably wiped out the remaining corps. There is a reason why we took out Outer heaven BEFORE the war. It was a calculated risk that their allies didn't really like them all that much. They had just surprise attacked Hellstorm for a "friendly". Hellstorm correctly(in my view) considered the match to be a "who's better!? pissing contest). There was obvious discontent. So, when we got our excuse to play against OH and won, we took the opportunity to start a limited war against the second strongest corp in the alliance. Those games were invaluable for us... Most of the early games were close. Flaylock spam was rampant... By the time we actually got to hellstorm, we had added some good tweets to our rings map strategy, and approached them with a instant nade/flaylock free agreement. They honored that agreement(much respect!). They won two of the early matches in the war that Hellsreaper and myself were unable to participate in, but then we rattle off enough victories straight to disintegrate their Corp. All the while, OH was fighting OUR defenses against Internal Error... Yeah, they lost most of them, but they kept the bed warm for when we could defend them ourselves. The war was a disaster for LOI.

Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 22:45:00 - [261] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: [ People always seem to forget how deep EoN.s roster was. When the LoI war started, we went into it assuming that the Hellstorm/TP matches were going to be somewhat of a push and that the rest of the alliance would dominate everyone else. Those matches were not a push and the war ended rather quickly, mostly on the back of the remaining players of the rest of the alliance. EoN. was already starting to burn out at that point... At the end of the chronos war was probably the peak of the alliances power across all corps. TP just surged a little later because we were nuts and had 13-14 guys that could make every single match and wanted to play 4-5 battles a night for 3-4 months... Probably why we get more credit than we deserve for EoN.s success, we had a great deal of visibility. People forget that LOI was stacked at that time. The dust community was evenly split. EoN and LOI were the biggest competitive alliances out. At that time, Hellstorm was looking really good. They also had Outer.Heaven, Pro Hic, Anonymous, and like 3 or 4 more other corps. This is when RND joined EoN. EoN had TP, SyN, RS, GEN, RND and a few smaller corps. I thought that the EoN-LOI war would have been the sickest war of to date because we were evenly matched. Well, on the surface of popularity it looked even. Because LOI had Hellstorm and OH as their headlining corps. And EoN had TP and SyN as their headlning corps. But RND and RS would have probably wiped out the remaining corps. There is a reason why we took out Outer heaven BEFORE the war. It was a calculated risk that their allies didn't really like them all that much. They had just surprise attacked Hellstorm for a "friendly". Hellstorm correctly(in my view) considered the match to be a "who's better!? pissing contest). There was obvious discontent. So, when we got our excuse to play against OH and won, we took the opportunity to start a limited war against the second strongest corp in the alliance. Those games were invaluable for us... Most of the early games were close. Flaylock spam was rampant... By the time we actually got to hellstorm, we had added some good tweets to our rings map strategy, and approached them with a instant nade/flaylock free agreement. They honored that agreement(much respect!). They won two of the early matches in the war that Hellsreaper and myself were unable to participate in, but then we rattle off enough victories straight to disintegrate their Corp. All the while, OH was fighting OUR defenses against Internal Error... Yeah, they lost most of them, but they kept the bed warm for when we could defend them ourselves. The war was a disaster for LOI. Pro Hic was pretty good. In early PC they had the only MD user that was better than me with the weapon. Alldin was better in beta, rug was overrated, and Kaughst wasn't really on the scene at that point. We still beat them handily, but they put up a much better fight than most of the guys in ROFL and the rest of LoI. For the record, Kaughst was the best mass driver user to play the game. It was so underpowered at the start of uprising that nobody else really used it in PC except for me and gloogloo(WTF). I liked it because it killed uplinks well. Nobody else did because Caldari Logi was king.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.13 03:22:00 - [262] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: [ People always seem to forget how deep EoN.s roster was. When the LoI war started, we went into it assuming that the Hellstorm/TP matches were going to be somewhat of a push and that the rest of the alliance would dominate everyone else. Those matches were not a push and the war ended rather quickly, mostly on the back of the remaining players of the rest of the alliance. EoN. was already starting to burn out at that point... At the end of the chronos war was probably the peak of the alliances power across all corps. TP just surged a little later because we were nuts and had 13-14 guys that could make every single match and wanted to play 4-5 battles a night for 3-4 months... Probably why we get more credit than we deserve for EoN.s success, we had a great deal of visibility. People forget that LOI was stacked at that time. The dust community was evenly split. EoN and LOI were the biggest competitive alliances out. At that time, Hellstorm was looking really good. They also had Outer.Heaven, Pro Hic, Anonymous, and like 3 or 4 more other corps. This is when RND joined EoN. EoN had TP, SyN, RS, GEN, RND and a few smaller corps. I thought that the EoN-LOI war would have been the sickest war of to date because we were evenly matched. Well, on the surface of popularity it looked even. Because LOI had Hellstorm and OH as their headlining corps. And EoN had TP and SyN as their headlning corps. But RND and RS would have probably wiped out the remaining corps. There is a reason why we took out Outer heaven BEFORE the war. It was a calculated risk that their allies didn't really like them all that much. They had just surprise attacked Hellstorm for a "friendly". Hellstorm correctly(in my view) considered the match to be a "who's better!? pissing contest). There was obvious discontent. So, when we got our excuse to play against OH and won, we took the opportunity to start a limited war against the second strongest corp in the alliance. Those games were invaluable for us... Most of the early games were close. Flaylock spam was rampant... By the time we actually got to hellstorm, we had added some good tweets to our rings map strategy, and approached them with a instant nade/flaylock free agreement. They honored that agreement(much respect!). They won two of the early matches in the war that Hellsreaper and myself were unable to participate in, but then we rattle off enough victories straight to disintegrate their Corp. All the while, OH was fighting OUR defenses against Internal Error... Yeah, they lost most of them, but they kept the bed warm for when we could defend them ourselves. The war was a disaster for LOI. Pro Hic was pretty good. In early PC they had the only MD user that was better than me with the weapon. Alldin was better in beta, rug was overrated, and Kaughst wasn't really on the scene at that point. We still beat them handily, but they put up a much better fight than most of the guys in ROFL and the rest of LoI. For the record, Kaughst was the best mass driver user to play the game. It was so underpowered at the start of uprising that nobody else really used it in PC except for me and gloogloo(WTF). I liked it because it killed uplinks well. Nobody else did because Caldari Logi was king. hated kaughst in the beta btw.... but yeah, by the time Pro Hic joined LOI they were having activity issues. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Eugene Killmore Red Star. 569	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:17:00 - [263] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion 1. Went back and forth with WTF in Cronos war. Beat them 60% of the time 2. Lol never fought them but 90% sure we would win 3. NS attacked us once... lost and never attacked again 4. Yea No. EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;) Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
Eugene Killmore Red Star. 569	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:21:00 - [264] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust User wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: History of PC from day 1 from my perspective. EoN destroys Orion Empire with help of NF. EoN and Cronos go to war. After a month of intense fighting EoN wins. EoN and league of infamy go to war. EoN crushes league of infamy in less than 3 days. Community cries Community bands together to form FEC. Aka F#$* EoN coalition. FEC mass attacks Eon w 100+ attacks in one day. (Devs report that this is the largest war in history) EoN absolutely destroys the FEC. Most of Eon retires of boredom never to return. Care Bears take over and continue to play till this day. The End. This guy always fails to mention that red star was like the DDB of eon. Doubt that there were 3 non-EoN corps that could beat Red Star in their prime. I challenge any to name 4 1. What The French 2. SVER True Blood 3. Nyain Sain 4. The Southern Legion -Hellstorm (Kujo era) -Outer Heaven -PFB -Imperfects-Negative Feedback -Seraphim Initiative -yea prolly -Never fought them until after Loi war. Beat them before and been beaten by them -lasted 5 minutes in PC -almost beat them when we fought -personally helped destroy that corporation in Cronos war. EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;) Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.18 03:13:00 - [265] - Quote Eugene might have had a little to do with R*'s success. His recollection matches up pretty well to my admittedly biased perception( except for discounting PFB... They were pretty good, even if they didn't realize the talent that they had in their depth). It is a mistake to discount PFBHz. The 16 that they played in early PC were all very good shooters, even if they did subscribe to the Pdiggy school of Tac AR and REs. Teamplayers picked up at least 6 fantastic geoup members from their split, the vast majority of which were PFBHz "B/reserve team" that they didn't realize were excellent. The leadership of that Corp severely overestimated a certain skill set which included proficiency in a weapon that was bound to be nerfed and underestimated ability to function in a cohesive group as an arm of a command structure. I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss.
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC The-Office 384	Posted - 2016.02.18 03:22:00 - [266] - Quote Capital Acquisitions. I don't even know how big we were back then. I just wonder how we'd stack up. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.18 03:36:00 - [267] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Capital Acquisitions. I don't even know how big we were back then. I just wonder how we'd stack up. Never crossed any of the involved groups minds until at least a year later. Not saying that you guys didn't come into your own, just that it the timeline isn't close. Cap was actually pretty decent. Leagues better than KEQ at their peaks. As much as I like to degrade KEQ due to their spineless leadership, I saw them come very close to beating synergy on green mushroom 4 point during the FEC war. KEQ approached the map with a very sound strategy of heavy city presence with emphasis underneath the mushroom and it took synergy a long time respond with a 2+1 outside/inside control counterpunch. Movado was telling people to do the right things, but it just wasn't happening... The main difference between a TP match and the one I witnessed and took part in on that day, is that we had uplinks EVERYWHERE. Synergy's slayers were roughly equal, and their tankers almost undoubtedly as strong or stronger than ours, but there was a serious deficiency in terms of team members enabling the group to change strategies on the fly. Uplinks were more important than killing by at least 3:1 back then. For every good uplink placed or killed, it was as important as killing 3 average PC players.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.18 07:27:00 - [268] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Capital Acquisitions. I don't even know how big we were back then. I just wonder how we'd stack up. Never crossed any of the involved groups minds until at least a year later. Not saying that you guys didn't come into your own, just that it the timeline isn't close. Cap was actually pretty decent. Leagues better than KEQ at their peaks. As much as I like to degrade KEQ due to their spineless leadership, I saw them come very close to beating synergy on green mushroom 4 point during the FEC war. KEQ approached the map with a very sound strategy of heavy city presence with emphasis underneath the mushroom and it took synergy a long time respond with a 2+1 outside/inside control counterpunch. Movado was telling people to do the right things, but it just wasn't happening... The main difference between a TP match and the one I witnessed and took part in on that day, is that we had uplinks EVERYWHERE. Synergy's slayers were roughly equal, and their tankers almost undoubtedly as strong or stronger than ours, but there was a serious deficiency in terms of team members enabling the group to change strategies on the fly. Uplinks were more important than killing by at least 3:1 back then. For every good uplink placed or killed, it was as important as killing 3 average PC players. Its hard to count (at least for me it is) corps after a certain timeline. Because it just consisted of players recycled from dead corps. Also a lot of corps were active but only became "powerhouses" once the older corps went inactive. So i dont know how to judge those Check RND out here
Eugene Killmore Red Star. 569	Posted - 2016.02.18 13:00:00 - [269] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Eugene might have had a little to do with R's success. His recollection matches up pretty well to my admittedly biased perception( except for discounting PFB... They were pretty good, even if they didn't realize the talent that they had in their depth). It is a mistake to discount PFBHz. The 16 that they played in early PC were all very good shooters, even if they did subscribe to the Pdiggy school of Tac AR and REs. Teamplayers picked up at least 6 fantastic geoup members from their split, the vast majority of which were PFBHz "B/reserve team" that they didn't realize were excellent. The leadership of that Corp placed too much weight in a certain skill set which included proficiency in a weapon that was bound to be nerfed and underestimated ability to function in a cohesive group as an arm of a command structure. I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. Little do w R success? I'm the CEO. I fcd 98% of our all time matches. I never said pbhz was bad but they never lasted long enough to do much. EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;) Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.18 19:37:00 - [270] - Quote Imagine if Teamplayers weren't in EoN

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.18 20:59:00 - [271] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Imagine if Teamplayers weren't in EoN would be like asking to imagine if HS wasn't in LOI. Or, to imagine if all the vets stayed. Check RND out here
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.18 21:24:00 - [272] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Imagine if Teamplayers weren't in EoN would be like asking to imagine if HS wasn't in LOI. Or, to imagine if all the vets stayed. I know lol..one change and all of history would change
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC The-Office 384	Posted - 2016.02.19 10:18:00 - [273] - Quote Eugene Killmore wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Eugene might have had a little to do with R*'s success. His recollection matches up pretty well to my admittedly biased perception( except for discounting PFB... They were pretty good, even if they didn't realize the talent that they had in their depth). It is a mistake to discount PFBHz. The 16 that they played in early PC were all very good shooters, even if they did subscribe to the Pdiggy school of Tac AR and REs. Teamplayers picked up at least 6 fantastic geoup members from their split, the vast majority of which were PFBHz "B/reserve team" that they didn't realize were excellent. The leadership of that Corp placed too much weight in a certain skill set which included proficiency in a weapon that was bound to be nerfed and underestimated ability to function in a cohesive group as an arm of a command structure. I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. I was involved in every major war/conflict in PC for the first two years. From day one all the EoN wars and through DNS and up to Romans boat. Consider me a PC historian :) DNS was when I first became active in PC. It seems I missed all of the really good stuff. Well, except for absolutely destroying ERA. How do you destroy a corp? Take away 13 districts in one day, that's how. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2016.02.19 13:37:00 - [274] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Eugene might have had a little to do with R*'s success. His recollection matches up pretty well to my admittedly biased perception( except for discounting PFB... They were pretty good, even if they didn't realize the talent that they had in their depth). It is a mistake to discount PFBHz. The 16 that they played in early PC were all very good shooters, even if they did subscribe to the Pdiggy school of Tac AR and REs. Teamplayers picked up at least 6 fantastic geoup members from their split, the vast majority of which were PFBHz "B/reserve team" that they didn't realize were excellent. The leadership of that Corp placed too much weight in a certain skill set which included proficiency in a weapon that was bound to be nerfed and underestimated ability to function in a cohesive group as an arm of a command structure. I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. I was involved in every major war/conflict in PC for the first two years. From day one all the EoN wars and through DNS and up to Romans boat. Consider me a PC historian :) DNS was when I first became active in PC. It seems I missed all of the really good stuff. Well, except for absolutely destroying ERA. How do you destroy a corp? Take away 13 districts in one day, that's how. everything after Fanfest doesn't count Check RND out here
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.19 17:27:00 - [275] - Quote Sorry but ERA would have smacked Cap..taking districts from dead/dying corps doesn't mean anything
James-5955 Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 290	Posted - 2016.02.19 19:09:00 - [276] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. The reality of the situation is that PFBHz broke apart pretty much right when 16 vs 16 was finally implemented. So really during the competitive peak of PFBHz it was 8 man teams which made it more difficult for others who were not as competitive to get into the teams.. Of course the corp wanted everyone to get PC experience so they did a lot of "non A-team" fights for the others. Not as many people would have gone under the radar if they had implemented 16 vs 16 sooner. However the corp did do a lot of PC fights that weren't "high risk" so that everyone could get involved and get some experience. We had an excellent 8v8 team and really only saw the best team composition (IMO) play once, and proudly gave IMP their first loss. Though being a mentor corp I feel 16 vs 16 in a competitive scene we wouldn't stand a chance against IMP/IE, not that I don't have love for my PFB brothers. They've always been a more "competitive only" group from what I've seen in the past few games. Red Star was never good when I was playing but who knows who they got to recruit and how things progressed. Never saw or heard of them in any big battles, never saw them put up much of a fight in pubs; almost completely off the grid it seemed. One thing is for sure though... smashed them hard in MAG Times have changed but who knows, but yeah... it was 8 vs 8s for the most part so some missed skill was definitely not noticed. It should've had the potential to have been found though. Piercing Serenity I think was someone who wasn't A team right away but always performed well and people noticed, dude turned out to be really good.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.19 20:08:00 - [277] - Quote James-5955 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. The reality of the situation is that PFBHz broke apart pretty much right when 16 vs 16 was finally implemented. So really during the competitive peak of PFBHz it was 8 man teams which made it more difficult for others who were not as competitive to get into the teams.. Of course the corp wanted everyone to get PC experience so they did a lot of "non A-team" fights for the others. Not as many people would have gone under the radar if they had implemented 16 vs 16 sooner. However the corp did do a lot of PC fights that weren't "high risk" so that everyone could get involved and get some experience. We had an excellent 8v8 team and really only saw the best team composition (IMO) play once, and proudly gave IMP their first loss. Though being a mentor corp I feel 16 vs 16 in a competitive scene we wouldn't stand a chance against IMP/IE, not that I don't have love for my PFB brothers. They've always been a more "competitive only" group from what I've seen in the past few games. Things must've changed because I never experienced R* being one of the top competitive corps. Must've picked up some talent at some point. Ehh it's easy to say how good you are when you have TP and RND in your alliance..R* was good but not top 10
Eugene Killmore Red Star. 570	Posted - 2016.02.20 15:27:00 - [278] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: James-5955 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. The reality of the situation is that PFBHz broke apart pretty much right when 16 vs 16 was finally implemented. So really during the competitive peak of PFBHz it was 8 man teams which made it more difficult for others who were not as competitive to get into the teams.. Of course the corp wanted everyone to get PC experience so they did a lot of "non A-team" fights for the others. Not as many people would have gone under the radar if they had implemented 16 vs 16 sooner. However the corp did do a lot of PC fights that weren't "high risk" so that everyone could get involved and get some experience. We had an excellent 8v8 team and really only saw the best team composition (IMO) play once, and proudly gave IMP their first loss. Though being a mentor corp I feel 16 vs 16 in a competitive scene we wouldn't stand a chance against IMP/IE, not that I don't have love for my PFB brothers. They've always been a more "competitive only" group from what I've seen in the past few games. Things must've changed because I never experienced R* being one of the top competitive corps. Must've picked up some talent at some point. Ehh it's easy to say how good you are when you have TP and RND in your alliance..R* was good but not top 10 Say whatever you want because I was still a top 5 landholder long after TP stopped playing Dust 514. It's funny when guys like you speak on things you know nothing about. EoN was a loose organization that rarely rang for each other. We all had our own teams and every Corp in EoN accomplished their own goals. EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;) Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.20 17:39:00 - [279] - Quote Eugene Killmore wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: James-5955 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. The reality of the situation is that PFBHz broke apart pretty much right when 16 vs 16 was finally implemented. So really during the competitive peak of PFBHz it was 8 man teams which made it more difficult for others who were not as competitive to get into the teams.. Of course the corp wanted everyone to get PC experience so they did a lot of "non A-team" fights for the others. Not as many people would have gone under the radar if they had implemented 16 vs 16 sooner. However the corp did do a lot of PC fights that weren't "high risk" so that everyone could get involved and get some experience. We had an excellent 8v8 team and really only saw the best team composition (IMO) play once, and proudly gave IMP their first loss. Though being a mentor corp I feel 16 vs 16 in a competitive scene we wouldn't stand a chance against IMP/IE, not that I don't have love for my PFB brothers. They've always been a more "competitive only" group from what I've seen in the past few games. Things must've changed because I never experienced R* being one of the top competitive corps. Must've picked up some talent at some point. Ehh it's easy to say how good you are when you have TP and RND in your alliance..R* was good but not top 10 Say whatever you want because I was still a top 5 landholder long after TP stopped playing Dust 514. It's funny when guys like you speak on things you know nothing about. EoN was a loose organization that rarely rang for each other. We all had our own teams and every Corp in EoN accomplished their own goals. And NS was the top land holder..I never said they rang for you it just makes you less of a target with those powerhouses on your side..
Dust User Opus Arcana 3	Posted - 2016.02.20 21:21:00 - [280] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Eugene Killmore wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: James-5955 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: I'm still curious how they didn't realize the potential of The Spinner though... Dude had everything they were looking for AND everything we expected of our team. There isn't a 16 man team that he wouldn't have make better, but I don't think they included him in their A team. Their loss. The reality of the situation is that PFBHz broke apart pretty much right when 16 vs 16 was finally implemented. So really during the competitive peak of PFBHz it was 8 man teams which made it more difficult for others who were not as competitive to get into the teams.. Of course the corp wanted everyone to get PC experience so they did a lot of "non A-team" fights for the others. Not as many people would have gone under the radar if they had implemented 16 vs 16 sooner. However the corp did do a lot of PC fights that weren't "high risk" so that everyone could get involved and get some experience. We had an excellent 8v8 team and really only saw the best team composition (IMO) play once, and proudly gave IMP their first loss. Though being a mentor corp I feel 16 vs 16 in a competitive scene we wouldn't stand a chance against IMP/IE, not that I don't have love for my PFB brothers. They've always been a more "competitive only" group from what I've seen in the past few games. Things must've changed because I never experienced R* being one of the top competitive corps. Must've picked up some talent at some point. Ehh it's easy to say how good you are when you have TP and RND in your alliance..R* was good but not top 10 Say whatever you want because I was still a top 5 landholder long after TP stopped playing Dust 514. It's funny when guys like you speak on things you know nothing about. EoN was a loose organization that rarely rang for each other. We all had our own teams and every Corp in EoN accomplished their own goals. And NS was the top land holder..I never said they rang for you it just makes you less of a target with those powerhouses on your side.. Just let him pretend heim it's all he's got going for him. Dust User for CPM 3.

Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6906	Posted - 2016.03.06 16:02:00 - [281] - Quote I'll give you a story..lots of yelling sweaty neckbeards who all fought for relevancy, they all died from space std's Will their children be able to overcome this nasty disease? Find out next time on NotLegion https://dust514.com/news/2012/11/dust-514-testers-tournament/
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 5559	Posted - 2016.03.20 04:13:00 - [282] - Quote Honestly PFBHz would have survived if Jaiden and Autumn wanted it to survive, but Autumn just wasn't into dust and saving the clan on dust wasn't his priority. Nothing wrong with that. PFBHz lacked strong leadership to right the ship....and when the ship could have been righted battle scuttled it. I remember the nights asking trying to keep Xero and Spinner and Coin and Nanites and these cats I loved playing with all together and invested but between Radar sending messages off to players like spinner (let the truth be known...he wasn't just poaching his friends...his net was wider than he admits) and the instability of having a vacuum of leadership (jaiden appeared overwhelmed and tired of it...he wasn't having fun and it was a chore he didn't envy..the meetings we had in PFB before the break were like airing out dirty laundry to the corp 1/2 of which were like me and had only been there 2 months or less...just killed morale) created a melting pot of problems that were insurmountable. Losing in the meta of terrible lag, flaylocks (honestly i think squagga and shilzy were the first of that kind before blizz the lion ever jumped on that wagon) and mass uplink spam (to say nothing of the role gem cutter was in 1 man defending their home point) was ultimately just the straw that broke the camel's back. This was a corp who's clout lay mostly with Jaiden and the Bounty Hunterz. I think maybe it was Turtlez as well also had clout but one other guy kinda had a lot of respect (and clout) with the 2 beast mode guys that had come from KEQ long ago to PFBHz. I mean don't get me wrong others had clout like Laz but Jaiden was ultimately the dude who had the capacity if he'd wanted to. But Jaiden afaik was done with dust anyways, as were most of those guys. Laz and peeps would come back sporadically. PFBHz had a ** ton of talent the problem was there just wasn't enough leadership. Leadership would have solved the primary issues. Just my opinion. Pro Hic had Regular Trooper, his brother was a beast scout....Black Art was nasty....just a lot of players that were fantastic. Pro Hic were the only competent team out of RofL when PC began...and from what I understand the reason they left was because they got tired of Alliance Leadership failing to listen to their counsel and thus getting thrust into (like fighting Loi) they really didn't want...for terrible reasons. But that's just my understanding of it. I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :) No matter what. FAmily**
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC The-Office 722	Posted - 2016.03.21 16:03:00 - [283] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Sorry but ERA would have smacked Cap..taking districts from dead/dying corps doesn't mean anything Or are you referring to when a certain someone launched attacks they weren't supposed to so ERA decided to drop all their districts and no show? Ah I would have to disagree. You see, there are two ERA's. One is Kane's batphone, where 12/16 on barge aren't sporting ERA tags but instead the amalgamation of 2 years worth of connections to top ranked no-loyalty mercs. The second is the actual team ERA. The first, well...needless to write out the lineup, quite difficult to defeat. The second, a challenge certainly - but not intimidating. Plenty of wins against them. They were already on their way out before Espeon sent all those attacks, subsequently fracturing the corp. The four powers at this time were OH, CAP, ERA, FA (activity permitting). Albeit I see people like ydubbs here saying everything after X time is meaningless....eyes of the beholder. As long as one carries the flag, does its colors mean nothing to those who march behind it? :(
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4387	Posted - 2016.03.23 19:44:00 - [284] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: [quote=Heimdallr69] Albeit I see people like ydubbs here saying everything after X time is meaningless....eyes of the beholder. As long as one carries the flag, does its colors mean nothing to those who march behind it? There's a reason why noone mentions SOG although they have had their grip on planetary conquest for the longest while now in PC. Why is that reason? Check RND out here
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6921	Posted - 2016.03.25 04:40:00 - [285] - Quote Idk if it matters but my opinion is Cubs/Dubbs/Soul as the best FC's ever. These 3 could turn a battle around and not many FC's have that talent when **** hits the fans, there are others but they ^ are the best
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1694	Posted - 2016.03.25 20:30:00 - [286] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: [quote=Heimdallr69] Albeit I see people like ydubbs here saying everything after X time is meaningless....eyes of the beholder. As long as one carries the flag, does its colors mean nothing to those who march behind it? There's a reason why noone mentions SOG although they have had their grip on planetary conquest for the longest while now in PC. Why is that reason? Because their primary means of stranglehold to ensure success was full exploitation of most every mechanic possible to not have to actually fight? ** like spamming mass attacks to take a whole team into an empty battle while avoiding any populated or actively monitored ones? Or spamming whatever the most broken/exploitative fit was available after any patch? Relying on total game-break glitches like the LAV glitch to not just win but avoid fairly earned losses? Because the only time or reason they rose to anything that could be considered a grip on PC is after they're basically the only people still playing the game at all anymore? I mean ** man, I fkn PWN at monopoly when I play solo. And don't even get me started on Command and Conquer when it's to 4 players and I am all 4, table flips and all. They earned their no-prize. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4393	Posted - 2016.03.25 22:34:00 - [287] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: [quote=Heimdallr69] Albeit I see people like ydubbs here saying everything after X time is meaningless....eyes of the beholder. As long as one carries the flag, does its colors mean nothing to those who march behind it? There's a reason why noone mentions SOG although they have had their grip on planetary conquest for the longest while now in PC. Why is that reason? Because their primary means of stranglehold to ensure success was full exploitation of most every mechanic possible to not have to actually fight? ** like spamming mass attacks to take a whole team into an empty battle while avoiding any populated or actively monitored ones? Or spamming whatever the most broken/exploitative fit was available after any patch? Relying on total game-break glitches like the LAV glitch to not just win but avoid fairly earned losses? Because the only time or reason they rose to anything that could be considered a grip on PC is after they're basically the only people still playing the game at all anymore? I mean ** man, I fkn PWN at monopoly when I play solo. And don't even get me started on Command and Conquer when it's to 4 players and I am all 4, table flips and all. They earned their no-prize. They were a strong team long before any use of LAV glitches. All teams exploited some sort of FOTM weapon/suit combo or cheesy mechanic to win. mass attack or not, SOG was holding their own. "only people still playing the game at all".....goes straight to my point. Check RND out here
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1694	Posted - 2016.03.25 23:59:00 - [288] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: [quote=Heimdallr69] Albeit I see people like ydubbs here saying everything after X time is meaningless....eyes of the beholder. As long as one carries the flag, does its colors mean nothing to those who march behind it? There's a reason why noone mentions SOG although they have had their grip on planetary conquest for the longest while now in PC. Why is that reason? Because their primary means of stranglehold to ensure success was full exploitation of most every mechanic possible to not have to actually fight? ** like spamming mass attacks to take a whole team into an empty battle while avoiding any populated or actively monitored ones? Or spamming whatever the most broken/exploitative fit was available after any patch? Relying on total game-break glitches like the LAV glitch to not just win but avoid fairly earned losses? Because the only time or reason they rose to anything that could be considered a grip on PC is after they're basically the only people still playing the game at all anymore? I mean ** man, I fkn PWN at monopoly when I play solo. And don't even get me started on Command and Conquer when it's to 4 players and I am all 4, table flips and all. They earned their no-prize. They were a strong team long before any use of LAV glitches. All teams exploited some sort of FOTM weapon/suit combo or cheesy mechanic to win. mass attack or not, SOG was holding their own. "only people still playing the game at all".....goes straight to my point. Well, I don't claim to be any sort of be-all end-all of PC but I for my active PC period never saw a strong team. The couple times they actually fought I did see a whole lot of one-dimensional fotm spam tho. And definitely saw a lot of peek-a-boo games deployed in battles they were no-showing while they tried to scout out an empty match to load 16 into. By "only people playing" I do mean literally the only people playing. Any point along the DUST timeline can be use as a litmus for the "successful because everyone left" arguement rhetorically except for when the active player numbers actually support it. Pre or post the Rogue Wedding, for example. Difference between that and this tho is the active playerbase numbers are so low now, soooooo low, that there's not even a contest. It's a win by default. Which to the original question is why nobody in their right mind applauds their "success" that way. It undermines the definition of success in competition and equates mere (albeit sustained) participation to viable, active competition. Hell, trophys all around in that case, my NPC corp owned Molden Heath in that case. Fwiw, I think if there's going to be timeline correlations to events (totally worthwhile for context) those should probably be the larger external RL events that shaped the game like say, Pre Uprising-Uprising (for the old guard, betaperiod stuff) Uprising-Rouge Wedding (for the actual release stuff) Rouge Wedding-Server Close announcement (for the post RW period). Even several months prior to closure announcement tho playerbase numbers were in steep decline. But as a general breakdown, that encompasses the vast majority of viable playing period, marks the biggest shifts imo without delving too far into the Nerf/Buff update meta carousel that occurred and leaves plenty of room to showcase everyone ever involved in MH/PC and where notable also discuss those metachanges and how they affected groups individually. The couple months prior and this post Closure announcement period is very epilogual, worthy of inclusion as well but in exactly that sort of context. The Epilogue. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4394	Posted - 2016.03.29 14:23:00 - [289] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: [quote=el OPERATOR][quote=Ydubbs81 RND] They were a strong team long before any use of LAV glitches. All teams exploited some sort of FOTM weapon/suit combo or cheesy mechanic to win. mass attack or not, SOG was holding their own. "only people still playing the game at all".....goes straight to my point. Well, I don't claim to be any sort of be-all end-all of PC but I for my active PC period never saw a strong team. The couple times they actually fought I did see a whole lot of one-dimensional fotm spam tho. And definitely saw a lot of peek-a-boo games deployed in battles they were no-showing while they tried to scout out an empty match to load 16 into. By "only people playing" I do mean literally the only people playing. Any point along the DUST timeline can be use as a litmus for the "successful because everyone left" arguement rhetorically except for when the active player numbers actually support it. Pre or post the Rogue Wedding, for example. Difference between that and this tho is the active playerbase numbers are so low now, soooooo low, that there's not even a contest. It's a win by default. Which to the original question is why nobody in their right mind applauds their "success" that way. It undermines the definition of success in competition and equates mere (albeit sustained) participation to viable, active competition. Hell, trophys all around in that case, my NPC corp owned Molden Heath in that case. Fwiw, I think if there's going to be timeline correlations to events (totally worthwhile for context) those should probably be the larger external RL events that shaped the game like say, Pre Uprising-Uprising (for the old guard, betaperiod stuff) Uprising-Rouge Wedding (for the actual release stuff) Rouge Wedding-Server Close announcement (for the post RW period). Even several months prior to closure announcement tho playerbase numbers were in steep decline. But as a general breakdown, that encompasses the vast majority of viable playing period, marks the biggest shifts imo without delving too far into the Nerf/Buff update meta carousel that occurred and leaves plenty of room to showcase everyone ever involved in MH/PC and where notable also discuss those metachanges and how they affected groups individually. The couple months prior and this post Closure announcement period is very epilogual, worthy of inclusion as well but in exactly that sort of context. The Epilogue. Someone just posted this link in another thread in this section. http://youtu.be/c3Wz8CiCSFg Now, I'm not saying SOG was a better corp. I'm just saying that SOG is/was a good corp. But people don't give them props because it was after a certain point in the timeline. Check RND out here
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1694	Posted - 2016.03.29 21:32:00 - [290] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: [quote=el OPERATOR][quote=Ydubbs81 RND] They were a strong team long before any use of LAV glitches. All teams exploited some sort of FOTM weapon/suit combo or cheesy mechanic to win. mass attack or not, SOG was holding their own. "only people still playing the game at all".....goes straight to my point. Well, I don't claim to be any sort of be-all end-all of PC but I for my active PC period never saw a strong team. The couple times they actually fought I did see a whole lot of one-dimensional fotm spam tho. And definitely saw a lot of peek-a-boo games deployed in battles they were no-showing while they tried to scout out an empty match to load 16 into. By "only people playing" I do mean literally the only people playing. Any point along the DUST timeline can be use as a litmus for the "successful because everyone left" arguement rhetorically except for when the active player numbers actually support it. Pre or post the Rogue Wedding, for example. Difference between that and this tho is the active playerbase numbers are so low now, soooooo low, that there's not even a contest. It's a win by default. Which to the original question is why nobody in their right mind applauds their "success" that way. It undermines the definition of success in competition and equates mere (albeit sustained) participation to viable, active competition. Hell, trophys all around in that case, my NPC corp owned Molden Heath in that case. Fwiw, I think if there's going to be timeline correlations to events (totally worthwhile for context) those should probably be the larger external RL events that shaped the game like say, Pre Uprising-Uprising (for the old guard, betaperiod stuff) Uprising-Rouge Wedding (for the actual release stuff) Rouge Wedding-Server Close announcement (for the post RW period). Even several months prior to closure announcement tho playerbase numbers were in steep decline. But as a general breakdown, that encompasses the vast majority of viable playing period, marks the biggest shifts imo without delving too far into the Nerf/Buff update meta carousel that occurred and leaves plenty of room to showcase everyone ever involved in MH/PC and where notable also discuss those metachanges and how they affected groups individually. The couple months prior and this post Closure announcement period is very epilogual, worthy of inclusion as well but in exactly that sort of context. The Epilogue. Someone just posted this link in another thread in this section. http://youtu.be/c3Wz8CiCSFg Now, I'm not saying SOG was a better corp. I'm just saying that SOG is/was a good corp. But people don't give them props because it was after a certain point in the timeline. Yeah, happened to tune in and just saw that. I'm not sure which one I find funnier, the irony of the source or the soundbite clip that took me down memory lane. There's memories and/or footage of everybody losing maybe even losing hard at some point. CAP worked to achieve, SOG has worked to achieve, that's a given. Quality work produces quality results tho and I guess, really, thats the only difference between your interpretation or mine. Although even then we are both cognizant and respectful of the relative time frames (which is always a factor) since, as any craftsman can attest, timing is always a factor in achieving quality. Just as circumstance is always a factor when evaluating results. In many ways that post Rogue Wedding period is arguably a more challenging period to have risen to the top in since a huge piece of that already experienced playerbase quit. Leaving the playing field a little more even and success more reliant on skill with tactics and strategies versus simple SP domination. Not to discredit the beta groups but there can't be much denial about that SP and what it meant in matches between pre-Uprising combatants and post-Uprising combatants. That's just that RPG thing: play more, skill more, be/do more. Just as the argument about success in the full decline period. There's just significantly fewer players total. Very significantly fewer total. After a certain point the effect of that change in circumstance can't be neglected. Which may be part of Shep's point about the standard-bearers who subsist. Built of the remains of one or a thousand, does the banner mean any less to those who'll still carry it? And should it mean any less to those who see it from afar? I could be totally wrong, Shepherd's a bigboy, he can explain himself. But as far as historical records go, so long as the timeframes are there for the results evaluations and the results themselves are accurate all the history really needs is accurate transposition. Accuracy of internal dramatics included. Rereading the last couple pages on this I don't think we're really in much disagreement about conclusions. Just which sets of parameters are framing and defining them. Molden Heath/PC and what the corps who've been there and what those leaderships and players did while they were there speak for themselves. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4397	Posted - 2016.03.30 12:48:00 - [291] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Yeah, happened to tune in and just saw that. I'm not sure which one I find funnier, the irony of the source or the soundbite clip that took me down memory lane. There's memories and/or footage of everybody losing maybe even losing hard at some point. CAP worked to achieve, SOG has worked to achieve, that's a given. Quality work produces quality results tho and I guess, really, thats the only difference between your interpretation or mine. Although even then we are both cognizant and respectful of the relative time frames (which is always a factor) since, as any craftsman can attest, timing is always a factor in achieving quality. Just as circumstance is always a factor when evaluating results. In many ways that post Rogue Wedding period is arguably a more challenging period to have risen to the top in since a huge piece of that already experienced playerbase quit. Leaving the playing field a little more even and success more reliant on skill with tactics and strategies versus simple SP domination. Not to discredit the beta groups but there can't be much denial about that SP and what it meant in matches between pre-Uprising combatants and post-Uprising combatants. That's just that RPG thing: play more, skill more, be/do more. Just as the argument about success in the full decline period. There's just significantly fewer players total. Very significantly fewer total. After a certain point the effect of that change in circumstance can't be neglected. Which may be part of Shep's point about the standard-bearers who subsist. Built of the remains of one or a thousand, does the banner mean any less to those who'll still carry it? And should it mean any less to those who see it from afar? I could be totally wrong, Shepherd's a bigboy, he can explain himself. But as far as historical records go, so long as the timeframes are there for the results evaluations and the results themselves are accurate all the history really needs is accurate transposition. Accuracy of internal dramatics included. Rereading the last couple pages on this I don't think we're really in much disagreement about conclusions. Just which sets of parameters are framing and defining them. Molden Heath/PC and what the corps who've been there and what those leaderships and players did while they were there speak for themselves. Two things.....now if timeline doesn't matter and one agrees wholeheartedly with Shep's point about those "still carrying the banner", then it doesn't end. And S.O.G., for what it's worth should get their just due. There was a moment where everyone was nervous (some even scared) about facing S.O.G. But imo, it doesn't matter cause corps picked up what was left when others retired. Secondly, sp gap wasn't the issue either. From the start of pc, everyone was here and most were floating around the same amount of sp. CRONOS, EoN, ROFL, LOI, NF, STB, Zion, etc. The first exodus began with the Imps and PFBHz. But mostly everyone was still here. EoN became the first dominant force in pc on a massive scale. Then after the FEC war, EoN left minus a few guys. PC wasn't what it was but it was still alive as AE became the powerhouse. Sp still wasn't an issue because pc still consisted of vets. There were small corps trying to get in but it was a skill issue and not an sp issue. Anyone that came in when the game was released would have had enough sp to be competitive. People were starting to fade out but it wasn't until fanfest '14 where you saw the huge exodus from the game. People left the game cold turkey. After that there was no real competition left. I believe this is when OH rose to dominance but there was no real opposition. All of the players that were in the dominant corps that stayed had to find a new home. So corps that started to get some success, acheived it because the bad boys left and not moreso because they "caught up in sp". A lot of the corps that came up later and achieved some sort of pc success want to put it all on sp and I can appreciate that. But it wasn't the case. The game was out for more than a year and they would have had enough time to catch up in sp. Check RND out here
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6929	Posted - 2016.03.30 15:56:00 - [292] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Yeah, happened to tune in and just saw that. I'm not sure which one I find funnier, the irony of the source or the soundbite clip that took me down memory lane. There's memories and/or footage of everybody losing maybe even losing hard at some point. CAP worked to achieve, SOG has worked to achieve, that's a given. Quality work produces quality results tho and I guess, really, thats the only difference between your interpretation or mine. Although even then we are both cognizant and respectful of the relative time frames (which is always a factor) since, as any craftsman can attest, timing is always a factor in achieving quality. Just as circumstance is always a factor when evaluating results. In many ways that post Rogue Wedding period is arguably a more challenging period to have risen to the top in since a huge piece of that already experienced playerbase quit. Leaving the playing field a little more even and success more reliant on skill with tactics and strategies versus simple SP domination. Not to discredit the beta groups but there can't be much denial about that SP and what it meant in matches between pre-Uprising combatants and post-Uprising combatants. That's just that RPG thing: play more, skill more, be/do more. Just as the argument about success in the full decline period. There's just significantly fewer players total. Very significantly fewer total. After a certain point the effect of that change in circumstance can't be neglected. Which may be part of Shep's point about the standard-bearers who subsist. Built of the remains of one or a thousand, does the banner mean any less to those who'll still carry it? And should it mean any less to those who see it from afar? I could be totally wrong, Shepherd's a bigboy, he can explain himself. But as far as historical records go, so long as the timeframes are there for the results evaluations and the results themselves are accurate all the history really needs is accurate transposition. Accuracy of internal dramatics included. Rereading the last couple pages on this I don't think we're really in much disagreement about conclusions. Just which sets of parameters are framing and defining them. Molden Heath/PC and what the corps who've been there and what those leaderships and players did while they were there speak for themselves. Two things.....now if timeline doesn't matter and one agrees wholeheartedly with Shep's point about those "still carrying the banner", then it doesn't end. And S.O.G., for what it's worth should get their just due. There was a moment where everyone was nervous (some even scared) about facing S.O.G. But imo, it doesn't matter cause corps picked up what was left when others retired. Secondly, sp gap wasn't the issue either. From the start of pc, everyone was here and most were floating around the same amount of sp. CRONOS, EoN, ROFL, LOI, NF, STB, Zion, etc. The first exodus began with the Imps and PFBHz. But mostly everyone was still here. EoN became the first dominant force in pc on a massive scale. Then after the FEC war, EoN left minus a few guys. PC wasn't what it was but it was still alive as AE became the powerhouse. Sp still wasn't an issue because pc still consisted of vets. There were small corps trying to get in but it was a skill issue and not an sp issue. Anyone that came in when the game was released would have had enough sp to be competitive. People were starting to fade out but it wasn't until fanfest '14 where you saw the huge exodus from the game. People left the game cold turkey. After that there was no real competition left. I believe this is when OH rose to dominance but there was no real opposition. All of the players that were in the dominant corps that stayed had to find a new home. So corps that started to get some success, acheived it because the bad boys left and not moreso because they "caught up in sp". A lot of the corps that came up later and achieved some sort of pc success want to put it all on sp and I can appreciate that. But it wasn't the case. The game was out for more than a year and they would have had enough time to catch up in sp. People used to say I was only good due to my sp advantage yet most of them had more sp than me..when I joined TP I had 6-8m sp and for those who don't know that's about 226 days since the final wipe..oh no, huge advantage..they saw tags and I somehow no lifed hundreds of million sp..those were my fav excuses from no skill players
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1695	Posted - 2016.03.30 23:00:00 - [293] - Quote Well, I already put forward that timeline is indeed relevant. A history without a timeline isn't a history, it's a pile of event flashcards. And unless hard limits on where said timeline begins and ends then yeah, it'd run forever leaving plenty of room for whoever to come, go, and someone else to come after. Realistically, unless you're only intending on presenting a very abridged version of MH events on the ground, there's no way you could limit it to only the beta/pre-Uprising period or even pre-Rouge Wedding. Yes, a shitton of players split after FF14 but a great many stayed and a shitton more came in. Game population numbers I don't think went into full decline mode until a month or two after the last PC overhaul. At least for me, that's when I really started to see the number on the loading screen for Tranq drop, once busy channels purged of traffic and matches both Pub and FacWar loading in with half as many players as there should've been. And the vids from PCs were partial mix-teams videographing their shitshows. On the SP topic, SP has always been a factor. That's the RPG aspect of the game design. If your teams average SP is 7M and mine is 3M your guys are able to outfit themselves more effectively than mine. And when my guys get to 7M your guys now are at 11. At low amounts between the two sure, anyone is competitive. Higher amounts tho the real flexibility in builds and individuals begins to come through allowing broad versatility of individual player from the strategic sense. Maybe I'm a little more sensitive to this having run Logi as my primary my entire PC "career" but some of those early PCs were just super lopsided and definitely the FullTrueProto (suit/mods/weapons/coreskills) vs. SimpleProto (suit/some mix of adv and pro weapon/mods/cores) experience. Hell, I didn't even have access to all the tools to truly create the sort of battlefield logistics matches could require until I was upwards of the mid 40's. Yeah, I could slow-leash a fat or drop a ****** hive at 6 but that sort of thing didn't cut it in PC. Maybe among prebeta players during the prebeta period (when SP was a little more equalized across participants) but definitely not post Uprising/Rouge Wedding. Even with the small amount of "equalization" of post FF14 since those who did stay were fairly well along their way progression-wise. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Deluxe Edition Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 785	Posted - 2016.04.18 21:31:00 - [294] - Quote We came, we saw, we dominated, we got bored.


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