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Derrith Erador
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:16:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:I sat through Cubs diplomacy a number of times. It was hilarious. There were two options: cooperate or be annihilated. It took until our "What the French run" to be taken seriously, but after that point, our group had decent sway with movado. The stb vs imps matches probably helped too. Anyone in TP( at the time) could tell the whole story; that's the kind of outfit we were running.
Regardless, I have a bit of knowledge about a few significant events. Amongst the people who still pop in, I'd say Zatara alone is more familiar with the EoN. War(Zat was always the favored link runner), and Sota and Kane with DNS donut. If someone is making an effort to compile The History of Dust, I am here to help. There are about 30 people total that would be needed. 15 for the begging and 15 for the end. Because there was a huge split in ages of Dust. .before and after fan fest
I happened to be around for both of them... but to be honest, I don't know how well my input would be, seeing as I was pretty much peanut gallery material until I went to FA, and even then, I might still be peanut gallery.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
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Derrith Erador
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Posted - 2015.10.29 18:22:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:It would be interesting to see who would win between old school teams and new teams. TP was and Imps and hell even AE/OH were already gone and or changing/losing players when alot of people and corps rose up in this game. Saying 1 team was the best just because they were the first is not an argument you will ever win.
The Toronto Maple Leafs or the 20s were considered amazing...but would be crushed by the Maple Leafs of 2015...even tho the 2015 ML get crushed by everyone else.
Although TP was good I believe there are tones of players and teams out there now that would easily slaughter them.
Why? Because now there are more organizers and FCS. Only reason imps were good was they had people leading them in a focused direction while most other corps at the time just wanted to play a fun shooting video game.
Make sense?
I'd disagree on that note. The old teams would pretty much slaughter them, my logic behind it is this:
Old teams in general had far better ground game than the new teams, gun for gun, there would be no contest.
But on the other hand, due to their superior ground teams, they typically would have weaker AV nets and vehicle support. It wasn't nonexistent, but not to the level of new teams.
New teams have no gun game, but to circumvent this little area, they would resort to:
Speed hacks
high ground control
AV net
The AV net would prove useless unless they were fighting FA or AE, all TP had was Legend IIRC (which I might not), and IMPS were relevant when vehicles were pretty much not. Even then, the high ground would be quickly put to rest because all the old FC would have to do is use some common sense and place a sniper on their asses. And a lot of the old school teams had monster snipers:
TP had liquid Fox
AE had Symbiotic Forks and Pelongnis
FA had Himiko, Grunt and myself if I had no option (actually, I'm only okay sniping)
Once the new teams are forced to the ground, they will be slaughtered.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
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Derrith Erador
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Posted - 2015.10.29 19:59:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Noneck and you and kalash could have gone anywhere, but after that it gets fuzzy I admit.
I echo the sentiment as well that Cap achieved a team that was greater than the sum of its parts.
As for derriths assertion I think it'd take a longer post to explain...but TP operated at a time where ADS's were worthless. On tanks TP had great tanks legend just happened to be the best blaster tank. Cubs was the av net in the city usually with a backup like draka available.
Imagio has long been forgotten but he was a great tanker...TP also had a 3rd tanker.
And imps actually were grounded in the best tank game along with PFBHZ led by Zitro himself.
On sniping Dwater was our best sniper iirc. He had a sniping spot to hit alpha on hubs and was pretty clutch.
I don't remember himiko sniping.
Well, he was when I left most recently.
And TBH, a lot of our snipers like chodewater and grunt were also just plain beasts in the city.
I completely forgot about Zitro, weird because my first clan leader got really pissed this one time the dude rammed his tank, should've been more memorable.
And honestly, if Cubs and Draka were the main AV net, they wouldn't compare to the lengths some of these news will go to keep me and whoever I'm flying with out of the city. I can honestly say that in all my time fighting the old schoolers, they never put three swarms, a forge, a tank and a rail incubus on my ass simultaneously. The new guys have, and a few times it still didn't work, not often though.
And to be frank, you're right, it would take longer to explain why the old schoolers would still win, but I think I got the basic gist of it.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
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Derrith Erador
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Posted - 2015.10.29 20:18:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:
Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE.
If AE isn't talking about it, how is it their fault that only the ex EoN/TP fogies are saying stuff?
Besides that, it wouldn't really be an accurate dust history without AE. commentary. Perhaps you could fix that?
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
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Derrith Erador
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Posted - 2015.10.29 20:22:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Well..pretty much the people typing right now would be a dam good start at writing down history. Even better tho then each of us writing down our views...prepare to have minds blown...we should have a giant round table..invite 25 or more people into a chat. No trolling. Let's debate history. And record it. Instead of hearing my you would hear everyone's. As we have already shown...we have all taken turns on each others teams and as enemies.
Record that ****. Make a mini series where people pick topics they want us to discuss. We find out before hand...get our own facts and then meet in chat.
Would be epic. As long as no one trolls and ruins it. Pick and choose who's in.
Like no Parthok
Sure, I'd be down for that. But we'd also need the input of the smaller corps that were swept in the wars, I mean, if only the high rollers talked, it wouldn't be much of a history, I'd like to think that everyone's opinion would be seen.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
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Derrith Erador
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Posted - 2015.10.29 20:47:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:
Also iv'e noticed that all these history threads only have the views from the side of ex EoN and TP players but never an AE.
If AE isn't talking about it, how is it their fault that only the ex EoN/TP fogies are saying stuff? Besides that, it wouldn't really be an accurate dust history without AE. commentary. Perhaps you could fix that? It annoys me a little bit and something inside me told to say something. How ironic, the most quiet person from AE is here talking. The rest dont give a damn. In reality i dont know much about AE's deep secrets since i was never a diplo nor a director lol never got into the heavy conversations so i can only say what i saw. The only person that could say anything about AE's history is Kujo himself and he doesn't care. He is a freaking emperor and a millionaire in elder scrolls online now. Talk about taking neckbearding a game to the max and yall know him how he is when he goes full neckbeard.
I'm not even a millionaire in Skyrim, Jesus Christ. I was a level 84 altmer mage with the Inferno mod spells, if you haven't played that mod, be prepared to die and scream in rage and have super duper heart attacks from all the clutch battles you got to do, and have a beast processor.
And to be honest, any input from any AE. guy would probably be welcome, seeing as they don't talk. Well, maybe Doc might... but he might not even be the right guy to ask...
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
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