I rarely play pubs anymore because they're boring as hell.

And you actually pay attention to what I talk about, you'll know that I'm actually in favor of raising payouts so EVERYONE can run proto.

Full proto matches are fun as hell.

I verbally harass anyone who tries to delude themselves that proto suits are the cause of their problems. Its a minute factor in a much larger scheme.

What you really want is SP and skill based matchmaking. Not meta locking.

Nobody ever complains about the dude who goes 0-11 in proto. Nobody.

Gee, I wonder why they're boring as hell.

I'm in favor of raising payouts because the people getting their d!cks kicked in can barely afford to run advanced. But I'm not in favor of everyone running proto all the time. It was supposed to be rare, something you'd only pull out in matches that mattered and officer even more so.

It's not the full proto matches that are fun, it's the equally matched matches that are fun.

You're right the proto ain't the problem but all those lvl 5 bonuses are less of an advantage on adv and less than they are on proto so locking it out helps alleviate the problem. The real problem is the bag of d!cks that is people like you.

No, what I want is for Concord to attack anyone that spawns in proto/officer in pubs. That's not going to happen and we'll never get a proper matchmaker because people like you keep the player base from growing; so something else has got to be done

Nobody ever complains about the militia/standard/advanced stompers either, nobody.

And don't even try to play the "You're trying to ruin the community and stomp the new players".

B*tch, I've written several fitting and tactics guides for new players. I've given countless threads and posts of feedback and advice. I've done more than just complain and whine endlessly, I've actually tried to identify and fix problems in whatever way I can.

So don't try and pull this stupid villain card on me. Anyone who has actually played with me, talked with me, or even seen my countless forum posts have known me to be a few things; and that's hard, fair, and helpful. You might not like the way I word things or the views I hold, but I've always been this way. My posts and ideals are by far the things least likely to kill this game and drive away the players.

Yeah, great good those have done for new players. You can act like you care and really trying to help but your actions in game speak for themselves. I've seen what you and yours do and have done for years which is mercilessly stomp those that can't compete and sometimes go against against those that can but most of the time one side or the other stops trying or leaves if they didn't do it at the start of the match. People like you are why I've seen long time players finally get tired of the bs, leave and never return; the reason I'll play a few matches with countless new players before they get fet up and turn the game of never to be seen again.

You might not be willing to admit it but you balls to the walls players are the reason Dust failed. Even with all that is wrong with Dust itself, you people are what drives players away.

I just joined a losing Acquisition Battle in which I was in the match for maybe just a couple of minutes before it ended.

These are the scores at the EOM screen:

My Team
1. 0/3
2. 4/1
3. 5/2 (Me)
4. 2/11
5. 0/15
6. 2/6
7. 2/10
8. 0/2
9. 1/1
10. 1/4
11. 1/13
12. 0/7
13. 0/6
14. 0/0
15. 0/1
16. 0/3

Enemy Team
1. 21/5 (The Darkhunter Society)
2. 26/1 (T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K.)
3. 9/1 (T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K.)
4. 12/3
5. 12/1 (research lab)
6. 7/1
7. 7/0
8. 6/0 (Eternal Beings)
9. 2/3
10. 4/5
11. 0/0
12. 3/3
13. 0/3
14. 0/1
15. 0/3
16. 0/0

Take a guess as to which team was running Proto Gear.

If people playing hard ruins the game to you, take it up with CCP.

I don't agree, but see where it gets you.

People running off players ruins the game for me. CCP isn't to blame for these people doing so, it's a choice they have made. Sure there are things CCP can do to mitigate it (such as locking proto/officer out of pubs) but there's only so much they're willing to do and can do. But again you can't blame CCP for these people choosing to do what they do.

I know you are speaking sarcastically but you are right. Yesterday I did a test where I created a secondary account and a new toon. Basically its not so much the proto suits but the skill point investmen as well as the higher cpu and pg.

New players can't compete because they dont have level 5 in x skill or dont know how to skill or skilled into the wrong thing. There is no guiding hand for them or a safe place for them to train. Instant battle academy doesn't work.

To be honest, it's not really skill or such, it's the ganking. I went 44/9 yesterday in a minmando because I was squadded up with my mates, and we traveled in a pack. If squadding and traveling in groups was encouraged, many players would feel less "stomped"

Hey, you can run proto all you want man, just do it in FW and PC where it was meant to be done. Make pubs high sec so this game has room to breath and grow.

MetaLock in publics... and be al last level 2 loyality (private soldier) to go into the Faction Warfare !!! easy and fast solution...

No more PubStars and random berryes in the battles anymore..

If you won't run in a squad, why play modes with everyone piled on to one point?

Solo bro can do more in skirmish, the proto squad can't be at every flag.

Why? There are so few new players even trying the game so what's the point? You'd quite literally be wasting development resources and pathetic checks that do not actually help "new" players because we don't have any "new" players at all. Without a true new player audience, which the game will never have on the PS3 again, it's just a waste.

The issues seen in pub matches plague every single FPS game. If you give a blueberry a proto suit they'll **** the bed all the same. People are just bad. There, I've said it. People are bad at first person shooters.

I was thinking of posting screenshots of matches just like this to showcase how it's more about droves of players not doing anything in matches.

Are there people dumb enough to think that 75% of the players in matches are new?

Got stomped by EB and Turd Rock lol.

I also spy a Romulus Hex on that team as well I think.

EDIT: Proto isn't the real problem here. Teamwork, matchmaking, and overall co-ordination are to blame.

I know you are speaking sarcastically but you are right. Yesterday I did a test where I created a secondary account and a new toon. Basically its not so much the proto suits but the skill point investmen as well as the higher cpu and pg.

New players can't compete because they dont have level 5 in x skill or dont know how to skill or skilled into the wrong thing. There is no guiding hand for them or a safe place for them to train. Instant battle academy doesn't work.

Some players simply can't squad for one reason or another. It should not be necessary to squad to get a game. Where's the solo mode?

It's a video game.

I doubt CCP could have expected so many would be scared of getting killed in a video game. It's just not logical.

What???!! No new players?? What am I, a mushroom? I'm one of the supposedly nonexistent new players, and I can absolutely vouch that many times it's crossed my mind that I'm wasting my time trying to get anywhere with this game. I'm sure there are plenty like me that decide to leave rather than stick it out like me, to see if it eventually gets any better. Yes, I'm sick of being stomped and I'm always making choices about whether to stay in a match or leave when I get stomped, including playing FW where I EXPECT to be stomped. But for the moment, I can actually see a way forward to a time when maybe I won't. I'm pretty tenacious. The problem is, most noobs would have given up long ago, and it's the noobs that try Dust and leave because it's too ridiculously hard that is the real issue.

This literally proves my point.

Get mad at EIGHT of 32 in the match that were actually playing. It doesn't even look like there was a full squad on the one team. This does nothing but show how pathetic this playerbase is.

It's a video game.

I doubt CCP could have expected so many would be scared of getting killed in a video game. It's just not logical.

I was thinking of posting screenshots of matches just like this to showcase how it's more about droves of players not doing anything in matches.

Are there people dumb enough to think that 75% of the players in matches are new?

The solo mode is right out the door.

If you actually want to play this game by yourself I would like to ask why?

Matchmaking in every game is horrible. You can never know, without inventing a time machine how a player will do in a specific match. The skill gap, which cannot be balanced in a 16v16 team environment without making que times absurdly long, is far too wide and it has nothing to do with suits. Skills, sure but not individual suits but even then actual skill will always win.

In a no squad, 16v16 match, you will still have the issues that we have now. There will still be better players then you ready to kick your **** in the dirt until you come back to the forums crying "Hurrr durr nerf da photon suits" because THEY'RE BETTER THAN YOU. I know, it's hard to imagine that someone is better than you and didn't win a gunfight because of their proto crutch.

The only difference from DUST to other FPS games is that bad players have the excuse "But they're running proto" which in the end is nothing but an excuse. Just like your "Some players simply can't squad for one reason or another."

If you are, as you say a new player then you are a very small minority in the game.

If you're constantly making it out of the redline and to objectives regardless of how much you get done when you get there then you're doing better than the majority of the playerbase.

If you are, as you say a new player then you are a very small minority in the game.

If you're constantly making it out of the redline and to objectives regardless of how much you get done when you get there then you're doing better than the majority of the playerbase.

I didn't get stomped; I joined at the end of the match. And it wasn't Romulus Hex, it was Jera13 (or something like that). I caught him camping and taking out newberries from a distance so I killed him.