Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2015.10.12 22:45:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Press Attache wrote:
If people playing hard ruins the game to you, take it up with CCP.
I don't agree, but see where it gets you.
People running off players ruins the game for me. CCP isn't to blame for these people doing so, it's a choice they have made. Sure there are things CCP can do to mitigate it (such as locking proto/officer out of pubs) but there's only so much they're willing to do and can do. But again you can't blame CCP for these people choosing to do what they do. It's a video game. I doubt CCP could have expected so many would be scared of getting killed in a video game. It's just not logical.
This is the logical fallacy known as causal reductionism boys and girls. You sir are the illogical one.
Your skills at oversimplifying a very important debate are so OP that your posts have devolved into something irrelevant to the discussion. CCP nerf immediately.
And you are more than welcome to keep your opinions to yourself if you like.
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2015.10.13 02:06:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
It's a video game.
I doubt CCP could have expected so many would be scared of getting killed in a video game. It's just not logical.
This is the logical fallacy known as causal reductionism boys and girls. You sir are the illogical one. Your skills at oversimplifying a very important debate are so OP that your posts have devolved into something irrelevant to the discussion. CCP nerf immediately. And you are more than welcome to keep your opinions to yourself if you like. Then how and why are so many people on both of the teams in the OP's example NOT killing or dying? I've been playing for over 3 years. I've been watching the game devolve into these borefests of VETERANS who choose not to fight in this FPS.
Guess what? You aren't the only person who has been here since 2012, I started playing in July of 2012 and regardless of that I still don't see how reducing an argument to base terms and ignoring all nuances involved helps anything. Plenty of veterans choose not to play certain matches for untold numbers of reasons that have been expressed time and time again over the years. Most simply left rather than put up with it, but for those who remain that leave matches they by and large want matches where they aren't placed into lopsided matches and pushed up against players that are going to spam officer gear or run broken fittings. Or, given there's a difference of opinion, fits they deem broken and not fun to fight against.
Also things that are breaking the standard gameplay they grew to love in Dust makes them unwilling to deal with some matches; things like the RE grenades, rooftop camping and the new fad of suits that CQC with mass drivers and PLCs by jumping above the blast radius as they fire, are making certain matches just not worth the effort and frustration to play them.
This all leads to them trying out what they are dealing with in a match and either quitting to get to the next game, saying **** it and afking to get their end of match rewards or doing stupid crap all match for fun just to have something to do.
As for your assumptions about new player numbers, they are just that. Assumptions. If you have some hard numbers backing your remarks then you can actually make a proper point, but so far all you've done is make statements based on how you think things are according to your narrow experience with the game and not based on any solid data. There are much more productive means of spending your time than wasting everyone else's with remarks like:
Thor Odinson42 wrote:Are there people dumb enough to think that 75% of the players in matches are new?
If you want all the reasons why people do this, go read all of the 'people leaving matches' threads. Or you could keep doing what you're doing now and try to convince people of your views without any backing data. The only reason I'm sill up right now (5am) is because my back hurts too bad to sleep and don't have the focus to write more about this right now. I'm done with this.
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