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Press Attache
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Posted - 2015.10.12 21:43:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
And don't even try to play the "You're trying to ruin the community and stomp the new players".
B*tch, I've written several fitting and tactics guides for new players. I've given countless threads and posts of feedback and advice. I've done more than just complain and whine endlessly, I've actually tried to identify and fix problems in whatever way I can.
So don't try and pull this stupid villain card on me. Anyone who has actually played with me, talked with me, or even seen my countless forum posts have known me to be a few things; and that's hard, fair, and helpful. You might not like the way I word things or the views I hold, but I've always been this way. My posts and ideals are by far the things least likely to kill this game and drive away the players.
Yeah, great good those have done for new players. You can act like you care and really trying to help but your actions in game speak for themselves. I've seen what you and yours do and have done for years which is mercilessly stomp those that can't compete and sometimes go against against those that can but most of the time one side or the other stops trying or leaves if they didn't do it at the start of the match. People like you are why I've seen long time players finally get tired of the bs, leave and never return; the reason I'll play a few matches with countless new players before they get fet up and turn the game of never to be seen again. You might not be willing to admit it but you balls to the walls players are the reason Dust failed. Even with all that is wrong with Dust itself, you people are what drives players away.
If people playing hard ruins the game to you, take it up with CCP.
I don't agree, but see where it gets you.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 01:18:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Press Attache wrote:
If people playing hard ruins the game to you, take it up with CCP.
I don't agree, but see where it gets you.
People running off players ruins the game for me. CCP isn't to blame for these people doing so, it's a choice they have made. Sure there are things CCP can do to mitigate it (such as locking proto/officer out of pubs) but there's only so much they're willing to do and can do. But again you can't blame CCP for these people choosing to do what they do.
It is absolutely not the players fault for playing hard from start to finish.
CCP made a game that in your eyes cannot stand up to high level play. That's isn't true, you just need a scapegoat and proto stompers are it, but don't blame the players.
You absolutely can and should blame CCP for people not being able to play their game without self policing and being considerate of the losers feelings to not "destroy" the game.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 01:23:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
And you actually pay attention to what I talk about, you'll know that I'm actually in favor of raising payouts so EVERYONE can run proto.
Full proto matches are fun as hell.
I verbally harass anyone who tries to delude themselves that proto suits are the cause of their problems. Its a minute factor in a much larger scheme.
I'm actually in favor of raising payouts so EVERYONE can run proto.That is so short sighted. What about the new players that can't run proto? You're suggesting to throw them in matches with even more people in proto? If suits are a minute factor in a much larger scheme, why do you suggest a change that will allow everyone with the SP to run them full time? If they're a minute factor, why are matches fun as hell when everyone is wearing them? Because you get close matches? Because putting everyone in the same tier gear tends to even out the playing field? You want to believe that running proto isn't a big deal but you've inadvertently highlighted why it is.
Because 3 weeks of SP and you are proto, the game has been around for longer than that.
Do you really think the scores in the OPs match would have been that much different if the squad that actually played was only in advanced gear?
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Posted - 2015.10.13 02:34:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Press Attache wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:[quote=Ghost Kaisar]
And you actually pay attention to what I talk about, you'll know that I'm actually in favor of raising payouts so EVERYONE can run proto.
Full proto matches are fun as hell.
I verbally harass anyone who tries to delude themselves that proto suits are the cause of their problems. Its a minute factor in a much larger scheme. I'm actually in favor of raising payouts so EVERYONE can run proto.That is so short sighted. What about the new players that can't run proto? You're suggesting to throw them in matches with even more people in proto? If suits are a minute factor in a much larger scheme, why do you suggest a change that will allow everyone with the SP to run them full time? If they're a minute factor, why are matches fun as hell when everyone is wearing them? Because you get close matches? Because putting everyone in the same tier gear tends to even out the playing field? You want to believe that running proto isn't a big deal but you've inadvertently highlighted why it is. Because 3 weeks of SP and you are proto, the game has been around for longer than that. Do you really think the scores in the OPs match would have been that much different if the squad that actually played was only in advanced gear?
I'm willing to concede I'm wrong here, but I don't think it takes 3 weeks to get into a proto suit, with complex armor mods and/or complex shield mods, complex damage mods and a proto gun. Then you've got to get the core skills to be able to fit that stuff, and whatever other complex stuff you need like kincats/precisions/range amps etc. All this while earning less WP/match and thus considerably less SP/match as a new player.
Do you really think the scores in the OPs match would have been that much different if the squad that actually played was only in advanced gear?
Of course I can't say yes or no for sure, but what I can say is that pro provides a measurable, additional amout of EHP and DPS than you get with adv. It's likely that a number of engagements would have ended differently.]
3 weeks of unboosted SP(no passive SP counted).
But in truth, you need a lot less than that to be competitive. Adv suit and gun with proto modules would put you over the gear hump in90% of gunfights. It wouldn't matter a lick of difference engaging a squad, but you wouldn't be helpless
Starter fits vs advanced ends the same a s starter fits versus proto.
You do not need 8 or 9 million to not be cannon fodder. Even at 5 you should be fine, at least from a gear perspective.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 03:31:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:OK, as I said... willing to concede I'm wrong. Isn't the SP cap at 750K/week? That'll get you into a suit, but we're talking about the gear, not just the suit.
I know, and the grind is a mother.
More starting skills, enough to use every standard module, drop suit cores at 3, and light weapons operation 4 with a starting unallocated of 750 would be rough starting point.
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