i feel like cloaking would be an amazing thing an should be added to drop suits because its a new stealthy way of fighting..

now all drop suits should NOT have cloaking abilitys in my opion heavy drop suits should not be able to cloak

Scout-Assault-Logstic suits should posses cloaking of different levels some can cloak longer then others

there should also be a way to counter act cloaking to prevent people just running around cloaking the entire fight

lol so basically everyone will have to run cloak counters then.
lol how will EMP work on infantry if u dont even know where they are? random emp spam? lol

Ripple effect is still the best way than total invisibility when moving, last thing u want is some suped up melee guy running around fully invisible with a shotgun knifing and one shottin ppl with the only counter being having a whole bunch of ppl running thermal/xray vision crap just to counter a couple ppl.

Total invisibility makes it TOO easy for ppl that cloaked
If u havent played other SHOOTERS with cloak then honestly u dont know what u are talkin about on how it will and can be used and proper counters to it

Said it before and i will say it again DUST =/= EVE what works in EVE wont always work in a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER.

thats y alot of us said to just have it to where u have to uncloak then switch to ur weapon, i.e. a cloaking device that u have to hold to keep it active like in an equipment slot tht way you will want to un cloak away from enemies rather than right up on them

-What causes decloaking
*Shooting your gun
*Interacting(AKA Hacking)
*throwing Grenades
*knifing
-Should take up a midslot
-What happens if shot while cloaked
*You should distort or become partly visible This is not decloaking just makes you easier to track
* if they completely take out your shields then you decloak and have to regen part of the shields and also wait for cloak cool down timer
-Cool down timer for when decloak before you can recloak should be there 15-20 seconds about.

Main thing I want is a covert scout suit, and some spawn beacons - with a little co-ordination, we could actually teach the FPS guys to fear my favorite use of a covert frigate - it's got to be getting close to hot-drop o'clock.........

A lot of replies and good ideas and counter arguments galore, I have not read all the posts in this topic so forgive me if someone mentioned Planetside and how cloaking was done in that game. Basically in Planetside you were totally invisible when standing completely still or moving while crouched, if you were standing up and walking you gave off a slight distortion and it became greater if you ran. You could interact with objects while cloaked, however to attack someone you had to uncloak if I remember correctly, it has been a long time since I played that game. Also there was a hard counter to cloakers it was a visual implant that could be activated at anytime to see cloaked players, so if you suspected a cloaker was nearby you would activate your visual implant. All implants ran off stamina, and if you left the implant on continuously it used up your stamina and would shut off when your stamina ran dry, much like cap use in EvE. So another good idea, the use of implants in Dust, if you put implants in the game that is, have them run off a players stamina when activated, meaning active implants would use stamina and passive implants would not. Stamina could be used like ship cap. Anyways just my .02 cent contribution to the discussion.

-What causes decloaking
*Shooting your gun
*Interacting(AKA Hacking)
*throwing Grenades
*knifing
-Should take up a midslot
-What happens if shot while cloaked
*You should distort or become partly visible This is not decloaking just makes you easier to track
* if they completely take out your shields then you decloak and have to regen part of the shields and also wait for cloak cool down timer
-Cool down timer for when decloak before you can recloak should be there 15-20 seconds about.

wohoo forums ate my post meaning that god awful "saving" does nada, zip, nothing .... \0/

Anyway was typing a long winded post about cloak stats in EVE but I'll be short and say:

sensor calibration delay = turn speed reduction, speed penalty should be kept the same as in EVE (-75%), no interaction with objects for 20s after decloaking.

The uses?

- scouting
- hiding from attackers if you are spotted, and break Line of Sight..
- assembling troops in an area slowly without someone spotting your group
- ambushes

Cloaking needs to have disadvantages.

- must be stationary
- Cannot fire while cloak field is on
- Cooldown until you can turn it on again.
- limited time to stay cloaked

This is very restrictive, but I feel its important... because every single mechanic in cloaking is something that a skilled player will abuse. Godlike players will always find loopholes, but it needs to be something that can benefit the average player, be effective when used tactically with a team, and that players who get rediculous learning to use it perfectly, will have advantage over those, without it being a "useful in every situation" type of equipment

(Sensor Jammer/ Motion detector in MAG for instance)

Yeah those are good ideas, except the disadvantage of having to be stationary. I think it would be ok if you could run(without sprinting) while cloaked. The higher level cloaking device, the more you will be hidden.

I believe this necessitates certain design principles in balancing the cloak

• The cloak should last indefinitely on demand