I dont like the idea of cloacked soldiers, it would just benefit cloacky sniper camping.

i think they should make the cloak take up alot of space on ur loadout and take a massive amount on training to get, but make it cause 100% total invisiblity and disable sprint, but make it equipment tht u have to have in hand to use tht way u cant run up and blast someone, u have to actually swap weapons and reveal ur self

Heres my criteria for a well-done cloak:
#1 It hides you
#2 It is an effective tactic with comms
#3 It causes you to make sacrifices
#4 It isn't OP

First off, make the cloak a grenade-slot item, so that users just have to hit L2 to cloak. Sprinting should only be allowed with covops suits using covops cloaks (in DUST, sprinting = warping).
The "active scanner" sounds like a perfect hard counter to cloaks, as it could "spot" the cloaky while the user has the target in range.

there isnt really much reason to snipe right now in the game, ive tried sniping and i kinda like it, but id be more useful runing in with an AR and doin stuff... a cloaky sniper guy would just make snipers more up to par with the other builds

Perhaps make the cloaking device require some sort of capacitor, requiring cap charges to maintain the cloak. The cloak would cycle, much like vehicle shield boosters, so only when selected (the cloak filling an equipment slot allowing for this) with higher end cloaks having an increased cycle time, and perhaps the cloaking skill taking X% off of the fitting requirements per level.

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I do however see some issues with people taking fire, and then suddenly cloaking to avoid dying. I have mixed feelings on this because then everyone will equip a cloaking devices to basically escape from all firefights. This is personally why I think there should a suit specifically designed to lower the high resource costs of a cloaking device, effectively forcing people to use that suit if they want to cloak, much like Covert Ops ships in EVE.

cloak / tank / gank
Pick two

- EW: Eve gets this right by having the strongest EW platforms be non-stealthy (even if they require the same skills )
- Deception: False intel should be a different tactic than suppressing intel
- Interdiction: A fancy word for flanking, but attacking the rear belongs chiefly to the nimble, let scouts be the best at this
- Traps: While watching the victim is sadistically appealing, this more properly belongs to the combat engineer

I believe this necessitates certain design principles in balancing the cloak

• The cloak should last indefinitely on demand
• The cloak should be foolproof at range and reliable at close proximity
• The cloak should require significant fitting resources
• The cloak should reduce mobility but not cripple it
• The cloak should not allow escape from combat

Maybe take a system similar to Crysis, moving will slowly drain it, getting shot deactivates it, shooting overheats it requiring a recharge. Like what was said above I also like the idea of dedicated scouts who can move around and spot enemies for their corpmates. Also, similar to EVE you could decloak and engage but your fitting usually won't have the dps to take out anyone, yet you can still assist.
Another idea could be to have the basic cloaks only work when still, standard only let's you move for a limited time, and prototypes act like cov-ops. I agree with the cool-down but for newer players trying out cloaking, it'd be a major turn-off decloaking and waiting to cool-down every time you look around to check your corners.

As an eve player, I'm familiar with the cloaking. It would also be nearly impossible to balance cloaking for infantry, LAV's, and HAV's (Black Ops HAVs and Force Recon Dropships are on the way. Are you excited?) if they kept true to the style of cloaking eve ships currently have. It would work possibly for the Dropships, but if they even tried to make this happen for anything else, it would leave nothing but a sour taste in the mouths of many.

Infantry cloaking is awesome. I'm not going to lie and say I know everything about the lore behind eve cloaks, but cloaks in eve require a distance from any object because it destablizes the cloak or some such. Hitting the ground and walking/running along uneven terrain seems like it would mess with that. Lore aside, like I said it would be very difficult to balance someone being completely undetectable, even if they could not kill you while in that state.

Camoflage is the best way in my mind to handle 'cloaks' for infantry and ground vehicles. They are still detectable, just very easy to miss. I'm not saying only snipers should be able to cloak, I am merely saying that killzone had one of the most balanced, interesting, and fun implementations of cloaking, and that I would much rather see something like that than people roaming around the map being completely undetectable.

cloaks still need a hard counter and some sort of sensor/scanner should be able to detect cloaks
not a fan of it as it promotes camping on infantry but open to options once it has counters besides just looking for distortions.

There was another thread on this topic a few weeks back which now seems to have moved over here. I'll edit later when I can link the other thread but here was my idea on cloaking.

cloaking on infantry will still be cheap if u put a full cloak
the ripple effect from KZ is a good thing imo, undecided on the timer but personally im not a fan of cheap easy kills that cloak will give.

What exactly is cheap about cloaking? Especially since hard counters are expected to show up in game.