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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.22 04:13:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Most people cannot handle the prospect of subordinating their desires to the needs of a group.
I'm actually a very good team player in the vein of "I'm here to distract you while my buddies flank and murder you in the cheapest way we can concoct"
Unfortunately, finding groups that mesh with playstyles is harder than most think. I'm a much better trainer in game than I am a squadmate to experienced vets. I can show new players how to do some insane **** as a group, but I tend to drive normal squads nuts. There's a mindset change in there for me, for sure. But it's the needs of the team taking precedence over my need to be a berserker a**hole when I'm running new players through their paces, answering questions and generally showing them how to screw people up. If you're waiting for other people to adapt to you then you're doing it wrong, it's a road that goes both ways.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2015.11.22 04:15:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Most people cannot handle the prospect of subordinating their desires to the needs of a group.
I'm actually a very good team player in the vein of "I'm here to distract you while my buddies flank and murder you in the cheapest way we can concoct"
Unfortunately, finding groups that mesh with playstyles is harder than most think. I'm a much better trainer in game than I am a squadmate to experienced vets. I can show new players how to do some insane **** as a group, but I tend to drive normal squads nuts. There's a mindset change in there for me, for sure. But it's the needs of the team taking precedence over my need to be a berserker a**hole when I'm running new players through their paces, answering questions and generally showing them how to screw people up. If you're waiting for other people to adapt to you then you're doing it wrong, it's a road that goes both ways.
I have more patience for dealing with new players honestly.
I fall into two roles well. Newbie trainer and FC. Both keep me too distracted to start giggling and randomly do something stupid for the funzies.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.11.22 05:30:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Most of you people suck at this game and rely too heavily on a squad to help you succeed. What a brilliant statement to say about a tactical shooter. You suck because you work together better then people with individual talent. The top corps in this game used to demand there players squad together, because it doesn't matter how good you are if you can't follow orders, know where to be, or support your team. A good example of this is a well known legend, Alldin. A Imperfect with undeniable skill with anything he touches. Problem is, he's not the best team player. Same issue with Kaizuka Sniper and many other 'top' players. The only class that has ever gotten away with Solo play are vehicles. Infantry who believe they can solo anything are the reason teams lose. Individual talent gets you noticed, but teamwork gets you fielded.
I understand what you are saying.
I feel though that too many people in this game don't know how to effectively analyze what is happening in a match and don't know how to make adjustments accordingly. I don't really know why so many people struggle with this but I have a feeling it has to do with so many people only focusing on what's going on with their particular squad instead of what is going on with the entire team.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.22 05:37:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Try not to listen in anyone in this thread, people like zitro and the scout twins 17 year old boys were jokes, not because they were bad, but because people hyped them up SOOO much when in reality it was ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS just proto when proto was THE MOST OP ITS EVER BEEN, the exception being the scout twins who didnt need to run proto, because they were scouts. As for every other person who was "OMGSOL33T", it was always the same thing, proto assault suit, no stacking penalty dmg mods, duvolle with sharpshooter 5(50% more range) weaponry 5(another free dmg mod, making a total of 40% dmg), and the GOOD hit detection of chrome, all up against EVERYBODY ELSE with 2 million spread out as fk skill points, the vast majority of players were using a mlt suit with either mlt weps, or geks, or elms.
We're talking about when a braindead player in a proto suit could have twice your range, twice your damage, and three times your hp, and you could go 30-0 with one hand. We're talking about thales going 80-0 NO PROBLEM. We're talking tanks like mine one shotting installations and 2 shotting rdv's from the redline, and with 3m of 400dmg splash, going 30-0 no problem. We're talking viziams going 50-0 no problem. We're talking core nades one shotting almost every suit. We're talking standing in k17D nanohives made you LITERALLY INVINCIBLE their rep rates and total clusters were so high, ignoring the omfg proto ones.
All this against starter fits with the occasional gek that had half the range of these protos, duvolles with sharpshooter literally fired across the map, viziams on the pipe map could stand in the crows nest and literally cover HALF OF THE ENTIRE MAP FROM THE CENTER. Oh and each tier of the weapon gave it better range, Im not exaggerating about twice the range twice the dps and 3 times the health. regynum persistently drops 50 kills a match to this day so there goes your theory No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.11.22 07:10:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
I consider you to be someone who holds legendary status in this game. I have seen no other person who can do what you can do in that MinScout. |
Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
246
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Posted - 2015.11.22 07:29:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Most of you people suck at this game and rely too heavily on a squad to help you succeed. What a brilliant statement to say about a tactical shooter. You suck because you work together better then people with individual talent. The top corps in this game used to demand there players squad together, because it doesn't matter how good you are if you can't follow orders, know where to be, or support your team. A good example of this is a well known legend, Alldin. A Imperfect with undeniable skill with anything he touches. Problem is, he's not the best team player. Same issue with Kaizuka Sniper and many other 'top' players. The only class that has ever gotten away with Solo play are vehicles. Infantry who believe they can solo anything are the reason teams lose. Individual talent gets you noticed, but teamwork gets you fielded. Kaizuka? You mean the guy who never does anything, but runs in stomp squads, and has a ridiculous K/D of around 11? That's the guy who you're saying doesn't work well with others? Okay.
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2015.11.22 17:17:00 -
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Kail Mako wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Most of you people suck at this game and rely too heavily on a squad to help you succeed. What a brilliant statement to say about a tactical shooter. You suck because you work together better then people with individual talent. The top corps in this game used to demand there players squad together, because it doesn't matter how good you are if you can't follow orders, know where to be, or support your team. A good example of this is a well known legend, Alldin. A Imperfect with undeniable skill with anything he touches. Problem is, he's not the best team player. Same issue with Kaizuka Sniper and many other 'top' players. The only class that has ever gotten away with Solo play are vehicles. Infantry who believe they can solo anything are the reason teams lose. Individual talent gets you noticed, but teamwork gets you fielded. Kaizuka? You mean the guy who never does anything, but runs in stomp squads, and has a ridiculous K/D of around 11? That's the guy who you're saying doesn't work well with others? Okay. that 11 KDR wouldn't be possible if he kept to PC like a lot of us. He pads his stats using GD plebs. I've seen him in the red line so often, even in tanks, I thought he might of been Bad Furry's alt years ago. If I hadn't been a part of Imps and constantly getting pulled into NS matches for defenses I wouldn't of found out he can aim a gun too.
actually, out of all the 'top beta players' he's probably the worst. You can't judge someones skill when they constantly play shadey. Reg and Alldin never had to rely on explosives or vehicles to do anything, and I've never once seen them hide in the red line and I se them in matches much more.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
880
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Posted - 2015.11.22 17:26:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Most people cannot handle the prospect of subordinating their desires to the needs of a group.
I'm actually a very good team player in the vein of "I'm here to distract you while my buddies flank and murder you in the cheapest way we can concoct"
Unfortunately, finding groups that mesh with playstyles is harder than most think. I'm a much better trainer in game than I am a squadmate to experienced vets. I can show new players how to do some insane **** as a group, but I tend to drive normal squads nuts. There's a mindset change in there for me, for sure. But it's the needs of the team taking precedence over my need to be a berserker a**hole when I'm running new players through their paces, answering questions and generally showing them how to screw people up. I ran a logi for AE back in the day..we were always low on links so I skilled into it and started a terrible slayer/logi..good times
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Steam - Heimpai
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.23 03:37:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
I consider you to be someone who holds legendary status in this game. I have seen no other person who can do what you can do in that MinScout. Oh, you!
/blushes
RIP Nova Knifers United
Get Thukked
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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CaP XZ
78
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Posted - 2015.11.23 09:34:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
I consider you to be someone who holds legendary status in this game. I have seen no other person who can do what you can do in that MinScout.
Lol You're the only person who thinks that. About regnyum, he is bloody good. Real good. I've played with him befote and unlike others who race to the point for a hack, he drives to the enemy redline with a combat rifle and drops them like flies. He is good, aim assist or not. With the map knowledge, game knowlegde and quick thinking he can really do anything on the ground. Take a point solo, win a 3v1 situation, slay in the face of heavy spam, his PCs paid off. As for dropping 50 kills a game that is exaggerated; 30 minimum is fair.
Bumpity bump anyways, there are so so few 'legends' that play anymore. I can almost count the ones I know on 2 hands
alt of zor (biomassed)
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
4
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Posted - 2015.11.23 12:31:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Everyone keeps saying the shotgun twins ran scouts -- they didn't. They ran assaults, and were by far the best shotgunners in the game.
As to those "current legends" saying they will compete with the beta legends, you're crazy. My first corp battle was against PFBHz. My first PC against the IMPs, my first war was a month long stretch against AE in their prime. I've played you "current legends," and you're no where close. There were players I literally couldn't touch 1v1 in beta. I have smashed some of you "current legends" 1v1 multiple times, and I don't even claim to be a legend.
There were actual wars back in beta. Players strived to be the best, in a competitive setting. The "currents" are just pubstompers who would be destroyed against a full team of beta legends.
Twins tried different options. They ran scout fits and then tried logi/shotgum combo. EVERY shotgunner today owes their playstyle to them. I dont care who says what...there is/was none better. Some like frost kitty, etc is up there with them but the twins reign supreme
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
4
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Posted - 2015.11.23 12:47:00 -
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I dont understand how the newer players cant understand that the game got easier. Ability to tank hp, more suits and guns which makes for better counters to specific suits, speed nerf, etc. Back then we all used TII assault suits with ARs with 500 total hp.
Doesnt mean there arent any new era beasts that could compete. Imo, the only ones i have seen that are on the same level as the beta's top players are Cavanni and Akrem. Those are the only two i can think atm
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
4
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Posted - 2015.11.23 13:10:00 -
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JudgeIsABadPilot wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.
Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around. Dust was a different animal back then. Suits actually had strong, very noticeable differences, ie. suits gaining HP from STD to top-tier PRO, which were the Type A and Type B suits; back when each level actually had two tiers. Type A and B suits had a lot of HP to go through to kill them.
Sounds to me like someone told you about closed beta rather than being in it. "Lot of hp"?
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
250
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Posted - 2015.11.23 20:21:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Kail Mako wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Most of you people suck at this game and rely too heavily on a squad to help you succeed. What a brilliant statement to say about a tactical shooter. You suck because you work together better then people with individual talent. The top corps in this game used to demand there players squad together, because it doesn't matter how good you are if you can't follow orders, know where to be, or support your team. A good example of this is a well known legend, Alldin. A Imperfect with undeniable skill with anything he touches. Problem is, he's not the best team player. Same issue with Kaizuka Sniper and many other 'top' players. The only class that has ever gotten away with Solo play are vehicles. Infantry who believe they can solo anything are the reason teams lose. Individual talent gets you noticed, but teamwork gets you fielded. Kaizuka? You mean the guy who never does anything, but runs in stomp squads, and has a ridiculous K/D of around 11? That's the guy who you're saying doesn't work well with others? Okay. that 11 KDR wouldn't be possible if he kept to PC like a lot of us. He pads his stats using GD plebs. I've seen him in the red line so often, even in tanks, I thought he might of been Bad Furry's alt years ago. If I hadn't been a part of Imps and constantly getting pulled into NS matches for defenses I wouldn't of found out he can aim a gun too. actually, out of all the 'top beta players' he's probably the worst. You can't judge someones skill when they constantly play shadey. Reg and Alldin never had to rely on explosives or vehicles to do anything, and I've never once seen them hide in the red line. That's a big problem when it comes to the Dust playerbase. You get so entitled about how good your playstyle is. So many people start calling out others when they play differently.
"Oh he uses jump mods, so he's a scrub." "Oh, he uses RE, so he's clearly he has no gun game." "Oh, he has a tank, that means he's afraid to fight infantry."
Playing "shady" most of the time just refers to any playstyle you don't agree with.
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P14GU3
WarRavens
1
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Posted - 2015.11.23 22:01:00 -
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By shady, I think he meant stomping noobs in ambush 90% of the time vs. playing in a competitive setting like PC 90% of the time, like most of the "elite" did.
BTW, myos, RE's and tanks are scrubmode..
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - 'Sault GK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Sentinal MK.0
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CaP XZ
80
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Posted - 2015.11.24 02:25:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I dont understand how the newer players cant understand that the game got easier. Ability to tank hp, more suits and guns which makes for better counters to specific suits, speed nerf, etc. Back then we all used TII assault suits with ARs with 500 total hp.
Doesnt mean there arent any new era beasts that could compete. Imo, the only ones i have seen that are on the same level as the beta's top players are Cavanni and Akrem. Those are the only two i can think atm
noneck akrem cavani solar
now everyone runs FoTM assault suits (especially gk.0) so its hard to tell the good players from the beasts
alt of xavier zor
the real xor
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
883
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Posted - 2015.11.24 02:45:00 -
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CaP XZ wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I dont understand how the newer players cant understand that the game got easier. Ability to tank hp, more suits and guns which makes for better counters to specific suits, speed nerf, etc. Back then we all used TII assault suits with ARs with 500 total hp.
Doesnt mean there arent any new era beasts that could compete. Imo, the only ones i have seen that are on the same level as the beta's top players are Cavanni and Akrem. Those are the only two i can think atm noneck akrem cavani solar now everyone runs FoTM assault suits (especially gk.0) so its hard to tell the good players from the beasts Kalante and I ran it before it was cool
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Steam - Heimpai
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Richard Gamerich-R
Capital Acquisitions LLC
162
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Posted - 2015.11.24 03:06:00 -
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Akrem is the best frenchie ever.
Wait I'm restocking...
// DUST 514 - Get Rekt: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx9VURwhIB1N2kNbg6hFCiRMhJ07e041L
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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
253
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Posted - 2015.11.24 03:23:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:By shady, I think he meant stomping noobs in ambush 90% of the time vs. playing in a competitive setting like PC 90% of the time, like most of the "elite" did. BTW, myos, RE's and tanks are scrubmode.. If they're scrubmode, and make the game so easy why doesn't everyone run it? The reason is because they're not good enough. Different playstyles require different tactics, and some people just can't pull it off. I know, I've done everything from heavy with damps, to myos, to slayer logis, to RE dependent scouts. Each one required me to vastly change my playstyle, and some are much harder than for me to successfully pull off than others. Just because it seems like scrubmode to you, doesn't mean the bar for entry isn't any lower than any other style of play.
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John Demonsbane
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.11.24 21:35:00 -
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Wow. This is still going?
(The godfather of tactical logisticsGäó)
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Immortal John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.11.25 00:49:00 -
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There is only one legend and his name is John.
I remain unperturbed by the joy and the madness, encountered at every turn.
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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
253
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Posted - 2015.11.25 05:14:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:There is only one legend and his name is JOHN CENAAAAAAA. FTFY
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Kid Chilled
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
251
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Posted - 2015.11.25 05:49:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
I consider you to be someone who holds legendary status in this game. I have seen no other person who can do what you can do in that MinScout. I do hope that was sarcasm. I have seen Dreis in a minscout, he is good, but he is not musturd good. Dreis is nowhere near legendary status. Get that **** out of here bro, don't be jockin where it doesn't belong.
Port DUST, become MLG.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Dead Man's Game
8
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:55:00 -
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Kid Chilled wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
I consider you to be someone who holds legendary status in this game. I have seen no other person who can do what you can do in that MinScout. I do hope that was sarcasm. I have seen Dreis in a minscout, he is good, but he is not musturd good. Dreis is nowhere near legendary status. Get that **** out of here bro, don't be jockin where it doesn't belong. H8ers gonna h8.
RIP Nova Knifers United
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Kid Chilled
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
256
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:58:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Kid Chilled wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
I consider you to be someone who holds legendary status in this game. I have seen no other person who can do what you can do in that MinScout. I do hope that was sarcasm. I have seen Dreis in a minscout, he is good, but he is not musturd good. Dreis is nowhere near legendary status. Get that **** out of here bro, don't be jockin where it doesn't belong. H8ers gonna h8. Dreis, buddy, i don't hate, i call it like i see it. You are good, but you are not legendary. You are not musturd, no matter how hard you try. You can never be musturd.
I know you look up to the guy, but you can never be musturd. Where did this huge ego come from? You used to be innocent.
Port DUST, become MLG.
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
334
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Been here since Beta.
No one fears me.
Unless forge guns are de-nerfed.
Then we'll be back to the days when some of the most frequently bragging vehicle drivers would leave the match when they saw me in the lineup on the other team.
Every.
Single.
Time.
I had a knack for reducing Sagaris Marauders to burning scrap solo.
That's like saying "de-nerf murder taxi. I used to go 40-0 every. single. time."
CEO / Art.of.Death
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Immortal John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:12:00 -
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Been here since Beta.
No one fears me.
Unless forge guns are de-nerfed.
Then we'll be back to the days when some of the most frequently bragging vehicle drivers would leave the match when they saw me in the lineup on the other team.
Every.
Single.
Time.
I had a knack for reducing Sagaris Marauders to burning scrap solo. That's like saying "de-nerf murder taxi. I used to go 40-0 every. single. time." maybe we should denerf both and see which wins.
I remain unperturbed by the joy and the madness, encountered at every turn.
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General John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:12:00 -
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Been here since Beta.
No one fears me.
Unless forge guns are de-nerfed.
Then we'll be back to the days when some of the most frequently bragging vehicle drivers would leave the match when they saw me in the lineup on the other team.
Every.
Single.
Time.
I had a knack for reducing Sagaris Marauders to burning scrap solo. That's like saying "de-nerf murder taxi. I used to go 40-0 every. single. time." maybe we should denerf both and see which wins.
I remain unperturbed by the joy and the madness, encountered at every turn.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Dead Man's Game
8
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:30:00 -
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Kid Chilled wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Kid Chilled wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: No, he doesn't. I've played against him. Yes, he is good, but you're wildly exaggerating.
Besides, I don't think he plays anymore.
I consider you to be someone who holds legendary status in this game. I have seen no other person who can do what you can do in that MinScout. I do hope that was sarcasm. I have seen Dreis in a minscout, he is good, but he is not musturd good. Dreis is nowhere near legendary status. Get that **** out of here bro, don't be jockin where it doesn't belong. H8ers gonna h8. Dreis, buddy, i don't hate, i call it like i see it. You are good, but you are not legendary. You are not musturd, no matter how hard you try. You can never be musturd. I know you look up to the guy, but you can never be musturd. Where did this huge ego come from? You used to be innocent. You smell of zor.
I don't look up to musturd, nor do I aspire to be him.
RIP Nova Knifers United
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Crimson Moon V
Ancient Exiles.
553
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Posted - 2015.11.26 23:32:00 -
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How is this thread still going?
After they added aim assist the game just flat out took less skill. It's like comparing chess and checkers players. This used to be a competitive game with a competitive community. Now it is just a shell of the community it used to be with a much lower skill ceiling.
As a closed beta vet that has come back many times. I can tell you right now it only takes about 3-7 games to figure out how the meta of a new build works and how to counter it. This game is not that complicated and takes about as much skill as CoD at this point. Yeah there is more options and counters. None of that matters when a better player drills you in the head faster then you can react.
Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
Winning is teaching, losing is learning.-Mavado V
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