Lol I don't think your a legend I said that because I've heard others refer to you as that... I don't think your **** lmao and when I meleed you, you def weren't on a cru spawning in you jumped out of delta, I tracked, and wacked you... Don't act like I spawn camped you

Lol I don't think your a legend I said that because I've heard others refer to you as that... I don't think your **** lmao and when I meleed you, you def weren't on a cru spawning in you jumped out of delta, I tracked, and wacked you... Don't act like I spawn camped you

I'm surprised you got him alone, romulus usually sticks with blues or does close flanks with teamates, it maximises his melee chances.

I go where I am needed in battle. I see the tide and I flow with it... I don't even know what I am doing half the time. It just happens? I don't try to maximize my melee chances through any means that you have stated... I think.
Is there like a Rom study group you are all a part of?

Seems like people know things about me that I don't even know.

I spawned on the CRU at Delta away from the city trying to get away from the lag. Had about 3 seconds into that clones life when you got me... Big whoop? How can you go and act like 30/1 when I am on the other team with a bunch of starter corp blues, is some type of amazing pedestal? You killed me twice that battle, once before that with Boundless Combat Rifle...

Keep up the arrogance... I am glad killing ROMULUS H3X was your most defining moment of your GAMING CAREER... *golf clap*

I have seen every page of this thread and it's a joke , all you guys are bromancing all day and for what ?

Who's the best in action movies .?. Bruce Lee or the Expendables .?. Bruce Lee could handle 20 guys by himself and The Expendable's are 20 guys .

It's just not the same , everyone that any of you have mentioned , played in a well known corporation and had help , that's not to say that they wasn't great but who dominates the leaderboards .?. players who are in corps , now that doesn't mean that they are the best , it just means that they were advantageous from the help that they received .

I can run in a squad and bring down someone to the end of their existence only to see someone else come and get the kill and I get the assist , now that's teamwork and I'm all for that but that's not a one on one experience and if you have a coordinated team , you won't find yourself in many one on one's to begin with .

It's like asking who's the best heavy in-game , the one with two or three logistic players repairing them or the one that can kill 4 players alone without any reps being applied ? I mean , how hard is it to be successful when you have others around you functioning like a cohesive unit ?

I could never understand discussions like this because you really can't be honest in your opinions .

To me the best players are the one's who play solo and know what to do and be just as functional as those who play in a squad but solo players get zero respect from the community , hell some want to rid the game of the existence of solo players ... I've seen some of the comments from past threads , where you want to force players into squads .

It's a joke .

How can you be considered so " great " , when you have others helping you and I'm not against help , not at all but a lot of you are hypocritical , I use to see people talking crap about Duna 2002 ( Or however it was spelled , sorry .. no offence ) all day , talking about how scrubby he was and how his tank crew use to help him acquire the kills he received but in the same breath your asking this question and these people that are mentioned are being praised as the best of the best , didn't they receive help as well or did they do this on their own .?. most of you ran in squads with those whom your mentioning so the answer is they had to receive help .

Kills mean nothing because someone else can do all the work and you deliver the finishing blow and get the recorded kill , WP's mean nothing , anyone could stay glued to a heavy with a repairer after laying links and hives and if your in a squad , it's much easier to do these things then it is when your solo .

For this game to be a team based game there is so much squad bias in the forums , it's just sickening at times .

I just couldn't take it anymore reading such dreck , now you can go back to your bromance and enjoy yourselves .

A lot of you would be garbage if you didn't have your squad running with you and hell , some of you don't even play unless you have squad mates on .

I don't hate on squads , I just don't like how their made to be more important then the TEAM or a solo player for that matter .

Bruce Lee was the best , he was the squad and the team all in one and had humility as well .

lol it sounds like your about to overdose on salt chill lmfao.

kid you get hyped up about players still **** riding you from years ago and the moment anyone questions the legitimacy of these claim you get defensive cause if someone says something undeniably true like what I just said your image would get tarnished lol. funny how you don't play at all but you are quick to jump on the forums and defend your image lmao (Very high sodium concentration)

I am just telling the truth I am not sorry if you feel some type of way because of it since you legends could take on the majority of teams on by yourselves back then please educate me and do that now. I would love to see you go 5/18 then blame it on your inexperience and the massive amounts of proto running around to. I will put this as simply as I can so you can understand. You all played a completely different game back then, you had better unbalanced gear, more sp, longer ttk, and thousand of militia noobs to **** on with no match making.

another thing I have heard that was stupid was the introduction of Aim Assist made it so gun game was easy for current players. true but you also leave out the part where gun game was harder for those who didn't have any so the skill difference was more pronounced back then. it's not that you were greatness it's more like everyone around you sucked lmao. also since the game is supposedly easier now can you come back and drop an 100/0 game I just recently went 70/2 so 100/0 shouldnt be a problem for a "legend"

just my take but...

while Arirana wasn't a Djinn Hellsreaper or Kalante or Kono game changing cornerstone...but he was on AE's team and he was on my radar as a great player even in beta.

Kalante was a well known beast in beta with Unreal.

Was he not considered Hellstorm a-team going into PC?

Reg and Dia were superstars long before Uprising ever dropped.

Reg has been the face of Dust's skilled players since he posted his strafing video and his hilariously comical war room propaganda posts for Imps/TP

Reg is literally the answer to the theoretical question: "Say the first thing that pops into your head...best dust player"

Only the OG vets who really know wtfcuk we're talking about remember James5955. It's just been the last year where the dust community has begun to heal from the emotional scars Protoman inflicted before he hung up his controller.

Think of the best KDR in the game you can think of that's not sitting in a vehicle or sniping...Reg had a KDR of 21.87...Protoman a 22.46

And this was in beta when no one had a protosuit until the nerds in Imps finally started obtaining their first one in late april (and really <150 or so people had protosuits before Uprising hit and the SP refunds)

Tibs is the only name on that list that is remotely close to applicable imo...and Tibs was a well known beast about 4 months after Uprising...and he was a beta vet. Tibs had obtained widespread notoriety maybe 2 months after Arirana lit the world up with his '10,000 fists in the air' routine.

Anything pre december...that's like the 2nd wave of OG. (maybe they are just 'og' not 'OG' )

At this point I consider all players like Roner or CatDog og.

Aside from the obvious experience advantage vets also had more sp and gear than other players... I don't think they would get those same results during this era of dust. we have respecs and we have the same **** they do just because they have been around longer doesn't mean they are "better" it simply means they had more advantages. also I've heard so many stories of horrendously over powered gear during their era that anyone who didn't know what was going on would be outgunned and out geared. This game is a lot more balanced so choose your weapon and come get your ass handed to you by the new age dusters....

I am not a beta vet I came late at the end of 1.8 but I have come across some "legends" and have given them ass whoopins heck I even went 30/1 vs the "melee legend" Romulus with melee! so no you "legends" aren't **** in my opinion you were just here when there was a plethora of noobs to stomp with no match making and no weapon balance congrats come back to dust and watch as your ratio plummets lmfao

Please don't ever call me a legend either.. or bring up my name in these garbage threads.


Thank you.

The sp gap back then was minimal....not even close to what it is now..you talk about the sp gap yet most the "new legends" have about 60-80m more sp than the average player base....your logic is flawed
Players who weren't around back then should really not talk about it like they know something

exactly....sp gap right now is ridiculous.

And guys that haven't been around commenting on guys they have never seen play is absurd.

there were two types of successful beta vet:

1: Elitist bastards who were really extremely good at coordination or personally killing people around them. they were doing this during the days when everyone was in militia yard trash after skill wipes too.

2: Uncaring, destructive *ssholes who were only in it to obliterate everything in sight, the more expensive the better regardless of KDR or personal ISK cost.

Everyone else was just gunfodder

I don't know if you noticed but my post was nearly a week ago.... if you still feel butt hurt about me saying your legends aren't **** then that's your fault lmao.

Also defending someone who hasn't proved their greatness during present times and circumstances is absurd... your a hypocrite dude, your logic makes no sense.... they haven't done one dam thing in this era to prove **** but yet you still rush to their rescue lmao the only thing you use to justify their status during the present is the past...not hard evidence in the form of pictures and videos but just opinions... of the past. lmao also the notion that they would have simply adapted and still been better is laughable. To glorify another human being simply means you feel you aren't adequate enough. I understand they rekt you back then and you still feel the buttthurt ,but they aren't gods someone will come along and be better then they ever were (I'm sure even when that happens you'll defend the past )I'm sorry bro but that is the simple fact of life

Someone made a good point about vets being so much more versatile on the battlefield and I think that's what makes them better, you could be the best tanker in the game, but if your opponent shuts down your tanking, then what? You can't do anything because all you can do is tank. The vets can do anything, literally anything. Speaking for myself, I have multiple maxed out Proto builds (as in, 3 Proto logi, all Proto commando, 2 Proto assault, 2 Proto scouts) and even more SP in vehicles as I was a pilot back in the good old days. And that's just me, I know for a fact there are thet vets with over 4x the SP that I have and I had when I was a regular, and when I left I had 60 mil sp.

So you tell me, what's more valued? Versatility? Or specialty?

First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.

Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around.

Not hypocritical....it's opinions based on what I'VE SEEN. Your opinion seems to be based on jealousy. I can have an opinion about old and new considering that I've witnessed both. You haven't witnessed the old, yet you have an opinion on it. That is what I consider to be absurd.

this 3rd rock guy is tarded. you dudes would get flat out slaughtered if all the old vets came back. the reason Ydubbs can say that is because he seen them and he seen you.

i find it absolutely hilarious when people liken themselves to THE slayers of beta....back then they got our scores, even better ans everyone had 5 mi SP....there was no protosuit, everyone was in mlt or standard. Now everyone is in proto, and the 'slayers' have several crutches such as aim-assist (worst implementation ever) and 80 million SP to help them.

We all suck, everypme

You forgot to add they got those scores when the game was in a worse state. As hard as it is to believe, closed beta had way more bumps and potholes than today.

no its just looking at the present and seeing how bad people are one can come to the conclusion that if 10 no arm midgits came back to the game they would take over.

Not hypocritical....it's opinions based on what I'VE SEEN. Your opinion seems to be based on jealousy. I can have an opinion about old and new considering that I've witnessed both. You haven't witnessed the old, yet you have an opinion on it. That is what I consider to be absurd.

#get bent