Which part did you not understand?

I do agree the amount of skilled players is low but I think that is because everyone knows the game and what is going on so the difference in skill Isn't as apparent as back then... I know if these beta legends came back they wouldn't be terrible but they wouldn't be the dominating force you are making them out to be... just my 2 isk you can take it or leave it

What truth? Just because you type it doesn't mean it's true nor does it make you right...maybe if they came back they'd get rekt but I highly doubt it considering beta actually took skill..your auto aim helps a lot doesn't it breh..back then there was no fotm or AA, everyone had same suits and skills so it was about the players skill now it's oh I have 90m sp I have what's op and fotm..

AA was implemented to close the skill gap (although I would love to see it removed especially because of that dam bolt pistol).

you are really simple minded bro.... you ever hear glass half full/ half empty. with no aim assist people who couldn't follow a target would get rekt that included the noobs... because of this, the skill difference was more apparent understandably (that's why they look like gods to you).

AA was implemented to close the skill gap (although I would love to see it removed especially because of that dam bolt pistol). You argument is that AA helps the skilled players of the present but it also helps the unskilled players. so the skill difference isn't as vast as it previously was. Had we removed AA and these vets came back there is no doubt about it they would be beast because they have already experience that but if they were to come back now the same noobs that couldn't hit them with one bullet will have the assistance of AA to help them get those shots to actually hit.

Also you say they all had the same **** to use ,but that would have been sooooooooo much easier since I'd know exactly what weapon my opponent has. Now I could only guess what my opponent might use depending on what suit they use, but it doesn't always workout that way unfortunately. if what I am saying still doesn't make sense to you then have fun justifying your beliefs of the present off of opinions of the past... I am done lol

I do agree the amount of skilled players is low but I think that is because everyone knows the game and what is going on so the difference in skill Isn't as apparent as back then... I know if these beta legends came back they wouldn't be terrible but they wouldn't be the dominating force you are making them out to be... just my 2 isk you can take it or leave it

For someone who has been around aslong as i have, i know where you're coming from. the one person i remember was 13ear.
He ran boosters 24/7 so he had proto before most of the playerbase. bit once the playerbase caught up, he realised he actually sucked and left.

When i was in my Cal scout i had about 7 pure 1v1's with him and they would last about a minute, he was in a cal assault. They where probably the best 1v1's ive had cos we thought so alike.

Beta vets have to be adaptable because of all of the updates, this means they are very good at everything, whereas newer 'Legends' are usually 1 playstyle.

I used to be a Tanker so i wasnt really recognised tbh. VAYU Enforcer Pilot 4 Life!

Let's clear a few things up:

1. The game had already been out for a month before I started playing so I would of been one of the last "elite" players to get proto gear, not one of the first.
In fact, The vast majority of the better players had been a part of the closed beta (unlike myself) so they knew the maps & they knew exactly what to spec into, I on the other hand spent the first 4-5 months testing a variety of different builds out.

2. I was still playing when the majority of the player base had 40+ mil. SP & had access to AUR bought respecs; Do you honestly think they were all running basic / advanced gear? I may have had more options than most, but I certainly didn't have better gear - I left long after "the player base had caught up" SP wise.

3. You only refer to our "pure 1v1s" b/c you won the last few we had; Back when I was playing every day, I won most of, if not all our straight up 1v1s. Same goes for 95% of the player base.
However, towards the end, when I was an infrequent player that percentage became more like 80%. I just wasn't on the same level anymore. Much like I wouldn't be now.

4. You weren't recognized back then b/c you simply weren't one of the best players at that time, tanker or no. It was actually an achievement to be considered a great slayer back then b/c there were so many to choose from. It was only after most of the the best infantry players had left that you became one yourself.

The one part that is true is that we did play / think alike; We understood that gun game wasn't everything & compensated for our lack of it in other areas.

I never professed to being the best. I was considered one of the best b/c I consistently topped the leaderboards of both the PC battles & pubs I took part in (Usually playing the latter solo). There aren't many slayers who could do that back then.

Everybody knows that being at the top of the leader boards doesn't mean you're the best, all it shows is that you can steamroll pubs & you have a lot of free time on your hands. You can get there playing solo with an assault rifle like I did, or you can get there by playing in full squads with multiple tankers like you & Duna did. It really doesn't mean ****.

You shouldn't feel the need to hold a grudge after all this time; our competitiveness is the only reason we every butted heads in the first place. (Outside of that one time you went full r.etard in a forum post & I informed you that you should never go full r.etard.)

It comes down to the fact that we both just like winning. Now, you can keep trying to convince everyone that I suck & you were always better than me, but dude, I promise you, no one's ever going to believe you.

Let's clear a few things up:

1. The game had already been out for a month before I started playing so I would of been one of the last "elite" players to get proto gear, not one of the first.
In fact, The vast majority of the better players had been a part of the closed beta (unlike myself) so they knew the maps & they knew exactly what to spec into, I on the other hand spent the first 4-5 months testing a variety of different builds out.

2. I was still playing when the majority of the player base had 40+ mil. SP & had access to AUR bought respecs; Do you honestly think they were all running basic / advanced gear? I may have had more options than most, but I certainly didn't have better gear - I left long after "the player base had caught up" SP wise.

3. You only refer to our "pure 1v1s" b/c you won the last few we had; Back when I was playing every day, I won most of, if not all our straight up 1v1s. Same goes for 95% of the player base.
However, towards the end, when I was an infrequent player that percentage became more like 80%. I just wasn't on the same level anymore. Much like I wouldn't be now.

4. You weren't recognized back then b/c you simply weren't one of the best players at that time, tanker or no. It was actually an achievement to be considered a great slayer back then b/c there were so many to choose from. It was only after most of the the best infantry players had left that you became one yourself.

The one part that is true is that we did play / think alike; We understood that gun game wasn't everything & compensated for our lack of it in other areas.

I never professed to being the best. I was considered one of the best b/c I consistently topped the leaderboards of both the PC battles & pubs I took part in (Usually playing the latter solo). There aren't many slayers who could do that back then.

Everybody knows that being at the top of the leader boards doesn't mean you're the best, all it shows is that you can steamroll pubs & you have a lot of free time on your hands. You can get there playing solo with an assault rifle like I did, or you can get there by playing in full squads with multiple tankers like you & Duna did. It really doesn't mean ****.

You shouldn't feel the need to hold a grudge after all this time; our competitiveness is the only reason we every butted heads in the first place. (Outside of that one time you went full r.etard in a forum post & I informed you that you should never go full r.etard.)

It comes down to the fact that we both just like winning. Now, you can keep trying to convince everyone that I suck & you were always better than me, but dude, I promise you, no one's ever going to believe you.

Let's clear a few things up:

1. The game had already been out for a month before I started playing so I would of been one of the last "elite" players to get proto gear, not one of the first.
In fact, The vast majority of the better players had been a part of the closed beta (unlike myself) so they knew the maps & they knew exactly what to spec into, I on the other hand spent the first 4-5 months testing a variety of different builds out.

2. I was still playing when the majority of the player base had 40+ mil. SP & had access to AUR bought respecs; Do you honestly think they were all running basic / advanced gear? I may have had more options than most, but I certainly didn't have better gear - I left long after "the player base had caught up" SP wise.

3. You only refer to our "pure 1v1s" b/c you won the last few we had; Back when I was playing every day, I won most of, if not all our straight up 1v1s. Same goes for 95% of the player base.
However, towards the end, when I was an infrequent player that percentage became more like 80%. I just wasn't on the same level anymore. Much like I wouldn't be now.

4. You weren't recognized back then b/c you simply weren't one of the best players at that time, tanker or no. It was actually an achievement to be considered a great slayer back then b/c there were so many to choose from. It was only after most of the the best infantry players had left that you became one yourself.

The one part that is true is that we did play / think alike; We understood that gun game wasn't everything & compensated for our lack of it in other areas.

I never professed to being the best. I was considered one of the best b/c I consistently topped the leaderboards of both the PC battles & pubs I took part in (Usually playing the latter solo). There aren't many slayers who could do that back then.

Everybody knows that being at the top of the leader boards doesn't mean you're the best, all it shows is that you can steamroll pubs & you have a lot of free time on your hands. You can get there playing solo with an assault rifle like I did, or you can get there by playing in full squads with multiple tankers like you & Duna did. It really doesn't mean ****.

You shouldn't feel the need to hold a grudge after all this time; our competitiveness is the only reason we every butted heads in the first place. (Outside of that one time you went full r.etard in a forum post & I informed you that you should never go full r.etard.)

It comes down to the fact that we both just like winning. Now, you can keep trying to convince everyone that I suck & you were always better than me, but dude, I promise you, no one's ever going to believe you.

First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.

Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around.

Just saying Nyain Chan ruined vehicles by spamming them and spider tanking and everyone knows it! So yea were haters lol! Nothing wrong with being Asian, your right on that, No we hate your corp not a race idiot.

What time frame exactly constitutes a legend?

When do you need to have been here to be a beta legend?
When do you need to have been here to be a current legend?

Why is everyone always on the Beta vs Current

From what I understand, they're almost two totally different games from chromosome (beta) to now...so how can there be a comparison?

You idiots are really comparing old Dust (12,000 players) to Dust now (2,000-3,000 players)? You're all about to be executed for being so stupid.

You're the stupid one for thinking that we only have 2000-3000 players.

That's how many people are logged in at any given time, not how many total players we have.

First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.

Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around.

codex vet, chromosome pro.

im still feared (a little bit)

Ah, the days of Chrome...

Been here since Beta.

No one fears me.

Unless forge guns are de-nerfed.

Then we'll be back to the days when some of the most frequently bragging vehicle drivers would leave the match when they saw me in the lineup on the other team.

Every.

Single.

Time.

I had a knack for reducing Sagaris Marauders to burning scrap solo.

Been here since Open Beta, if you see me say closed beta, that is a troll, and you should check yourself before you wreck yourself.

I have met up, squadded, made friends with, and been taught by a lot of closed beta vets. Some of which are named, Gem Cutter, Atiim, musturd, AddictPunk, Ari, Kalante, etc. i doubt I left any impression.


This has no relevance, i thought this was show and tell. Did I get an A+, teacher?

Actually we are both wrong because it's impossible to tell how many Dust Mercs are on at any given time, nice try tho. Sorry i stepped in front of your ego , carry on.

No, you're actually just wrong.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

But don't let me stop you from being a smug prick.

No, you're actually just wrong.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

But don't let me stop you from being a smug prick.

The point of the matter is those numbers are NOT people logged in at the same time, their just not sorry. I don't appreciate the name calling over it tho. Anyway i'm sorry I offended your boyfriend i guess.