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Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:11:00 -
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- Slap26
- James
- Zitro
- Annie Oakley / Calamity Jane
These are a few closed beta (ish) players that I would stack against any current player. I'm sure that Kalente and Zaria, and Ari would compete and it would be a good battle. They might even win. But these four are some people who were just unreal.
"For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most"
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:12:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:
- Slap26
- James
- Zitro
- Annie Oakley / Calamity Jane
These are a few closed beta (ish) players that I would stack against any current player. I'm sure that Kalente and Zaria, and Ari would compete and it would be a good battle. They might even win. But these four are some people who were just unreal.
Zitro is the only one on that list that I've killed without assistance.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.18 22:11:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.
Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around.
b i t c h..............please.
with all due respect
never heard of you.
good asian?
two words
asa akira
got in on the courtesy keys handed out by Sony in April 2012 as the EVE Fanfest base freaked out at no keys from ccp
used my April beta proto suits to kill eve fanfest folks in May
that was when the server was only on for a few scant hours for the weekend
I only had one week to enjoy my proto before the wipe since it was a massive reach to get to proto before a wipe
ran around all the time and got endless crap about running in my bonewhite bpo s the CCP gave us beta vets
as far as talent pool?
back when this game had PROMISE there was a LARGE number of interested players
therefore the chances of a lot of very good players were HIGH
Now?
NOW?
When the dust 514 promise is close to DEAD?
When theres the PS4 and PS4 games
dust 514
When right now the number of interested players is SMALL
Right now the chances of there being a pool of good players is SMALL
So yeah
PS4 is the current gen
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.18 22:21:00 -
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Beta vets win easily. Guys like Reg, Protoman, James (and all of the Bunnies), Tryhard514 (Znignflo), Mavado, YDubbs, PDiggy (forgot his Dust name) and the Shotgun Twins were utter NIGHTMARES to face. Most of Dust best beta players came from elite clans in MAG. True story. I left MANY off of this list but you get my point. The game now is more fluid and there are more weapon options now but these guys did it with less and with ease.
It isn't even like comparing Michael Jordan with LeBron James. More like comparing Michael Jordan with Russell Westbrook.
It really is no contest honestly.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.07.18 22:28:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Beta vets win easily. Guys like Reg, Protoman, James (and all of the Bunnies), Tryhard514 (Znignflo), Mavado, YDubbs, PDiggy (forgot his Dust name) and the Shotgun Twins were utter NIGHTMARES to face. Most of Dust best beta players came from elite clans in MAG. True story. I left MANY off of this list but you get my point. The game now is more fluid and there are more weapon options now but these guys did it with less and with ease.
It really is no contest honestly.
And they didn't have the help of AA either
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mr musturd
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.18 22:45:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Beta vets win easily. Guys like Reg, Protoman, James (and all of the Bunnies), Tryhard514 (Znignflo), Mavado, YDubbs, Markof22 (PDiggy22) and the Shotgun Twins were utter NIGHTMARES to face. Most of Dust best beta players came from elite clans in MAG. True story. I left MANY off of this list but you get my point. The game now is more fluid and there are more weapon options now but these guys did it with less and with ease.
It isn't even like comparing Michael Jordan with LeBron James. More like comparing Michael Jordan with Russell Westbrook.
It really is no contest honestly.
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Union118
GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2015.07.18 22:58:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.
Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around.
Dont even get me started. You Nyan people cheat so hard its not even fun. Back when yall started to play dust around the time Team Players and few other corps were forming i remember how three of us in full proto cornered one of you and somehow you survived. It was complete BS. I know for a fact yall were cheating cuz the damage stopped registering. From that day on your corp lost my respect.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.19 00:00:00 -
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Game evolved, things changed. Comparing two groups from different eras is not very logical.
Comparing groups from different eras in a straight : who is better, may I add.
Disclaimer : I haven't played with or versus top players of old. I'm not stating that one is better than another.
Loyal to The State
Official Caldari Commando User
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.19 00:50:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Game evolved, things changed. Comparing two groups from different eras is not very logical.
Comparing groups from different eras in a straight : who is better, may I add.
Disclaimer : I haven't played with or versus top players of old. I'm not stating that one is better than another.
Game changes. Weapons change. Maps change.
What I am referring to is "gun game" and things like situational awareness. If you have always been good in FPS, you most likely will continue that trend going into other games. I saw these guys do it in MAG and Battlefield 3. Based on that, yes...it is most certainly logical and most certainly relevant. I stand by what I said when I stated that beta vets would demolish new school. Like Heim said, beta vets didn't have the luxury of the aim assist that the newer players have now either.
They were top dogs then and they are probably top dogs now.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:08:00 -
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there were two types of successful beta vet:
1: Elitist bastards who were really extremely good at coordination or personally killing people around them. they were doing this during the days when everyone was in militia yard trash after skill wipes too.
2: Uncaring, destructive *ssholes who were only in it to obliterate everything in sight, the more expensive the better regardless of KDR or personal ISK cost.
Everyone else was just gunfodder
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:21:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:
- Slap26
- James
- Zitro
- Annie Oakley / Calamity Jane
These are a few closed beta (ish) players that I would stack against any current player. I'm sure that Kalente and Zaria, and Ari would compete and it would be a good battle. They might even win. But these four are some people who were just unreal. Zitro is the only one on that list that I've killed without assistance.
In a free LAV, everyone roadkills just the same 
CPM 1, reelection platform here.
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:44:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:
- Slap26
- James
- Zitro
- Annie Oakley / Calamity Jane
These are a few closed beta (ish) players that I would stack against any current player. I'm sure that Kalente and Zaria, and Ari would compete and it would be a good battle. They might even win. But these four are some people who were just unreal. Zitro is the only one on that list that I've killed without assistance. In a free LAV, everyone roadkills just the same
*SPLAT*
Running for CPM2
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:52:00 -
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Beta legends that would kick ass;
James5955
Xprotoman
God Nova
Aldin
King Kobrah
Current legends;
Kalente
ReGnYuM (beta player, but he still plays)
Arirana
Dia farron
1st Lieutenant Tibs
I could go through my scouts, snipers and heavies but that would be too long
caldari blood
caldari soul
specc'd into all caldari suits
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.19 02:04:00 -
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It's not even close really, many of the beta crew were rock solid in their fps skills. Gear and passive skills could amplify that, but the fundamental skillset was there in a big way for many players.
Current game mechanics have been designed to flatten the skill differences between players(as well as compensate for flaws with the game's core code), virtually every fundamental mechanical problem with the game is still with us. Dust is far less wild west now and far more an urban consumer product.
The gunfighters and cowboys have largely packed up and moved on, 'far as i know they're still searching for a place to call home. For a while there it looked like New Eden was going to be that place, but then CCP happened.
PSN: RationalSpark
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VAHZZ
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.19 02:14:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:there were two types of successful beta vet:
1: Elitist bastards who were really extremely good at coordination or personally killing people around them. they were doing this during the days when everyone was in militia yard trash after skill wipes too.
2: Uncaring, destructive *ssholes who were only in it to obliterate everything in sight, the more expensive the better regardless of KDR or personal ISK cost.
Everyone else was just gunfodder
I wonder where Marauder falls into that lol. I am leaning towards 2
X|V - I am a Bard
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.19 04:04:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:there were two types of successful beta vet:
1: Elitist bastards who were really extremely good at coordination or personally killing people around them. they were doing this during the days when everyone was in militia yard trash after skill wipes too.
2: Uncaring, destructive *ssholes who were only in it to obliterate everything in sight, the more expensive the better regardless of KDR or personal ISK cost.
Everyone else was just gunfodder
Was gunfodder, can confirm.
I have been here 3 years next week, downloaded 7/28/12. True the game is way more expansive and more to it, guns, suits, maps, etc. I was mediocre then and I stand by my mediocrity to this day so I can see from the middle of the road. And to be truthful, the top dogs now aint got shxt on the OGs. I know that because...I'm not afraid to 1v1 anyone anymore. Maybe my calloused backside can't feel the punishment, but back then I used to get murked before I could even respond to whats happening. Now I just lose a fight, and feel that my mediocrity has gotten the better of me again. It has nothing to do with anything but the fact that they were better. My heart used to sink seeing a squad of PFBz or Hellstorm or the like on the other team, now I just get mildly annoyed that I will have to sit up in my chair. It's not the same.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:51:00 -
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In every human activity the level of skill tend to increase during the time.
I've already seen these kind of discussion in many other games.
It's just a feeling, if a player is good, he's good, no matter what. Take them back in the game, give them a while to understand the flow of things and they will be on par with current good players.
We tend to judge from our own point of view, of course other players seem to be worse now, because we are getting better.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
We Forgotten Few
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:23:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:False, as I was actually around during that time I can confirm only kalante and Ari could compete on the levels of the closed beta stars. And I'm pretty sure they were in closed beta as well..
It's a lot easier for me to fight 3 proto heavies with my assault solo than it was fighting James
Also now you have this lovely thing called AA which makes things really easy
Wrong, I competed on their level. I was there.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:52:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Been here since Open Beta, if you see me say closed beta, that is a troll, and you should check yourself before you wreck yourself.
I have met up, squadded, made friends with, and been taught by a lot of closed beta vets. Some of which are named, Gem Cutter, Atiim, musturd, AddictPunk, Ari, Kalante, etc. i doubt I left any impression.
This has no relevance, i thought this was show and tell. Did I get an A+, teacher?
Ho Atiim.. he vanished in the wind a long time ago..
WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME !
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:53:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:False, as I was actually around during that time I can confirm only kalante and Ari could compete on the levels of the closed beta stars. And I'm pretty sure they were in closed beta as well..
It's a lot easier for me to fight 3 proto heavies with my assault solo than it was fighting James
Also now you have this lovely thing called AA which makes things really easy Wrong, I competed on their level. I was there.
You're not on their level unless you are told so.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:31:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:False, as I was actually around during that time I can confirm only kalante and Ari could compete on the levels of the closed beta stars. And I'm pretty sure they were in closed beta as well..
It's a lot easier for me to fight 3 proto heavies with my assault solo than it was fighting James
Also now you have this lovely thing called AA which makes things really easy Wrong, I competed on their level. I was there. You're not on their level unless you are told so.
Yeahh, before I tore my tfcc last year I was better than James
Lol I kid I kid, we seriously had some intense 1v1's though...sure do miss him
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Mortedeamor
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.19 18:37:00 -
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oddly enough i hadnt played dust in months and then i got on and slaughtered ..
hmm game seems easier i wonder why..
oh wait no i dont its stale because all the best players left
dust used to be grueling on a whole other level
game is for children now
enjoy your laggy playground
dust 514 ruined console gaming for me
pc master race
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Mortedeamor
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.19 18:40:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:False, as I was actually around during that time I can confirm only kalante and Ari could compete on the levels of the closed beta stars. And I'm pretty sure they were in closed beta as well..
It's a lot easier for me to fight 3 proto heavies with my assault solo than it was fighting James
Also now you have this lovely thing called AA which makes things really easy
pretty sure they were ..
dust 514 ruined console gaming for me
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CUSE TOWN333
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.19 19:46:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:Which part did you not understand? the part where if we came back all you new dudes would get wiped of the map and be stuck in pubs.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.08.25 05:42:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.
Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around.
List your 16 current legends for a match...and we'll compare your list to mine.
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
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Warbarge farm 2
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.25 05:55:00 -
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Crimson Moon V
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.25 05:56:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:
Deadly Goliath wrote:
First off I have a few things to say before I continue, Apocalyptic Destroyer, just cause you don't have anything proper to say you just decide to hate on other peoples posts, man rethink what you say you hateful ____. Another point, all of you racist ______ that hate on Nyain Chan, man eat a fat ____. I ain't Asian but you guys are proper racist, so maybe you should shut your mouths for once, there ain't nothing wrong with being Asian.
Now to the point, a few people have been saying that the Beta "Legends" are the best players that ever played Dust and only a few good players still remain, I will now explain why this statement is wrong. But for you to understand me I need you to be open minded and understand everything I say. So when a Call of Duty game is released you have lots of people get it and play it for a few months and get really good at it, then there is a second wave of players at Christmas, they are called "Christmas Noobs". In the first year Dust got a small but constant amount of new players and since it is a confusing game it took weeks even months for the players to understand it. And what you guys call the Legends were able to kill these guys super easy as they had proto with good skills. If any of these players comes back now, he'll get slapped across the face with all the proto running around.
Hmm the best matches ive ever played have been nyan san bushes, but as for your comment on beta players vs the new guys, im gonna have to disagree in the days of old mayb 20ppl had proto suits with weapons to match and they were lacking major core skills if they did, and a starter fit could easily take them out. Skill point cap was so low you had to plan carefully and they were nowhere near as easy to acquire. Boosters use to be a huge deal, imo things are too easily acquired for new players the joy of getting a proto weapon or suit isnt the same when u can earn it in a week or two.
LOL qoute fail.^
Agreed.
Every build before uprising took the most skill because of lack of aim aim assist. Plus we had a playerbase of 5000-8000 on daily. The skill cieling was high and we had lots of good players. The game was dominated by a small handful of players from a few corps. There is only a playerbase of 2000 now. There aren't very many good players left.
These new stars would get REKT by PFBHz imps Synergy and TP. It's simple breh.
Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
Winning is teaching, Losing is learning.-Mavado V
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VAHZZ
RabbitSwarm
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Posted - 2015.08.25 06:02:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Been here since Open Beta, if you see me say closed beta, that is a troll, and you should check yourself before you wreck yourself.
I have met up, squadded, made friends with, and been taught by a lot of closed beta vets. Some of which are named, Gem Cutter, Atiim, musturd, AddictPunk, Ari, Kalante, etc. i doubt I left any impression.
This has no relevance, i thought this was show and tell. Did I get an A+, teacher? Ho Atiim.. he vanished in the wind a long time ago..
Actually, he still plays.
Co-Founder of RabbitSwarm
OG Scout with a Mouth.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.08.25 06:10:00 -
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I'll start by giving you a taste: Kreayshawn Coruscanti Reflex Regnyum xprotoman23 James Tryhard These are just six that I just ran off the top of my head. Imagine having to face that squad in the city?
How could anyone mention beta and not mention the shotgun twins? They are undoubtedly, the best shotgun scouts this game has ever seen. These guys are the fathers of shotgun scouts in Dust. Every scout owes their gameplay to them. These guys were maintaining 7 and 8 KDs as shotgun scouts! Name another that has done that since.........................Don't worry, I'll wait. These guys were the beasts that the beasts were afraid of. Imagine if they had the cloaks and the ewar and buffs that everyone has now?
ADS' were non-existent back so I can't mention that. But if you want to talk tanks.....TheLegend is the best tanker that this game has ever seen. I haven't seen anyone dominate matches like how he does.
This is just 9 guys...I barely scratched the surface. Beta players would win, I'm sorry
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
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Leovarian L Lavitz
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.25 06:16:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:... Useless drooling from his ignorant mouth
Believe what you want. There is a reason they run from me. Some bring the fight, like xprotoman and alex-zx and 13ear, others test the water, yet others flee at first sight and return with their squads.
I have fought and continue to fight and defeat the people other players consider the best.
Now I play to win matches. I'm not trophy hunting anymore. All I care about is Victory. This is end of the discussion of my skills as far as my peers are concerned. My weekly win /loss is the only thing I'm working on improving with nice, sweet, rolling victory steaks.
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