Lol back then the skill difference was vast between players I'm sure if some of these "legends" came back we would smash their faces in. until we are allowed to have 1v1 tournaments we will never know if that player was good at stomping noobs or if they actually had gun game.

Aside from the obvious experience advantage vets also had more sp and gear than other players... I don't think they would get those same results during this era of dust. we have respecs and we have the same **** they do just because they have been around longer doesn't mean they are "better" it simply means they had more advantages. also I've heard so many stories of horrendously over powered gear during their era that anyone who didn't know what was going on would be outgunned and out geared. This game is a lot more balanced so choose your weapon and come get your ass handed to you by the new age dusters....

I am not a beta vet I came late at the end of 1.8 but I have come across some "legends" and have given them ass whoopins heck I even went 30/1 vs the "melee legend" Romulus with melee! so no you "legends" aren't **** in my opinion you were just here when there was a plethora of noobs to stomp with no match making and no weapon balance congrats come back to dust and watch as your ratio plummets lmfao

Not hypocritical....it's opinions based on what I'VE SEEN. Your opinion seems to be based on jealousy. I can have an opinion about old and new considering that I've witnessed both. You haven't witnessed the old, yet you have an opinion on it. That is what I consider to be absurd.

you are really simple minded bro.... you ever hear glass half full/ half empty. with no aim assist people who couldn't follow a target would get rekt that included the noobs... because of this, the skill difference was more apparent understandably (that's why they look like gods to you).

AA was implemented to close the skill gap (although I would love to see it removed especially because of that dam bolt pistol). You argument is that AA helps the skilled players of the present but it also helps the unskilled players. so the skill difference isn't as vast as it previously was. Had we removed AA and these vets came back there is no doubt about it they would be beast because they have already experience that but if they were to come back now the same noobs that couldn't hit them with one bullet will have the assistance of AA to help them get those shots to actually hit.

Also you say they all had the same **** to use ,but that would have been sooooooooo much easier since I'd know exactly what weapon my opponent has. Now I could only guess what my opponent might use depending on what suit they use, but it doesn't always workout that way unfortunately. if what I am saying still doesn't make sense to you then have fun justifying your beliefs of the present off of opinions of the past... I am done lol

Let's clear a few things up:

1. The game had already been out for a month before I started playing so I would of been one of the last "elite" players to get proto gear, not one of the first.
In fact, The vast majority of the better players had been a part of the closed beta (unlike myself) so they knew the maps & they knew exactly what to spec into, I on the other hand spent the first 4-5 months testing a variety of different builds out.

2. I was still playing when the majority of the player base had 40+ mil. SP & had access to AUR bought respecs; Do you honestly think they were all running basic / advanced gear? I may have had more options than most, but I certainly didn't have better gear - I left long after "the player base had caught up" SP wise.

3. You only refer to our "pure 1v1s" b/c you won the last few we had; Back when I was playing every day, I won most of, if not all our straight up 1v1s. Same goes for 95% of the player base.
However, towards the end, when I was an infrequent player that percentage became more like 80%. I just wasn't on the same level anymore. Much like I wouldn't be now.

4. You weren't recognized back then b/c you simply weren't one of the best players at that time, tanker or no. It was actually an achievement to be considered a great slayer back then b/c there were so many to choose from. It was only after most of the the best infantry players had left that you became one yourself.

The one part that is true is that we did play / think alike; We understood that gun game wasn't everything & compensated for our lack of it in other areas.

I never professed to being the best. I was considered one of the best b/c I consistently topped the leaderboards of both the PC battles & pubs I took part in (Usually playing the latter solo). There aren't many slayers who could do that back then.

Everybody knows that being at the top of the leader boards doesn't mean you're the best, all it shows is that you can steamroll pubs & you have a lot of free time on your hands. You can get there playing solo with an assault rifle like I did, or you can get there by playing in full squads with multiple tankers like you & Duna did. It really doesn't mean ****.

You shouldn't feel the need to hold a grudge after all this time; our competitiveness is the only reason we every butted heads in the first place. (Outside of that one time you went full r.etard in a forum post & I informed you that you should never go full r.etard.)

It comes down to the fact that we both just like winning. Now, you can keep trying to convince everyone that I suck & you were always better than me, but dude, I promise you, no one's ever going to believe you.

ahhahhahah yeah i miss them good ole days loved running over my friends in proto...best trol ever

Who is the legend of the day?

I'd like to say it's Cyber Cobras or hmm.....

A lot of you guys realize the beta top players... mostly fought each other? Where it was Proto vs Proto.

There's no excuse to why or how badly you guys got stomped in the past. It was a simple case of dedication vs not. Do a single one of you plebs even ask CCP to put Dust as an MLG?

Because that's what we used to ask from CCP. Back when players cared about how good they are.

How can you compare now to back then? It's obvious people were better back then cause we had a reason to believe we were planning for a 10 year future. That brings out the best in neckbeards.

But now there's no reason, no ambition, nothing. What exactly is driving you scrubs to be as good as players in the past?


To sum it up; yea, Beta players were miles better.

Most people cannot handle the prospect of subordinating their desires to the needs of a group.

I'm actually a very good team player in the vein of "I'm here to distract you while my buddies flank and murder you in the cheapest way we can concoct"

Unfortunately, finding groups that mesh with playstyles is harder than most think. I'm a much better trainer in game than I am a squadmate to experienced vets. I can show new players how to do some insane **** as a group, but I tend to drive normal squads nuts. There's a mindset change in there for me, for sure. But it's the needs of the team taking precedence over my need to be a berserker a**hole when I'm running new players through their paces, answering questions and generally showing them how to screw people up.

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now everyone runs FoTM assault suits (especially gk.0) so its hard to tell the good players from the beasts