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13ear
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Posted - 2015.11.19 13:02:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:For someone who has been around aslong as i have, i know where you're coming from. the one person i remember was 13ear.
He ran boosters 24/7 so he had proto before most of the playerbase. bit once the playerbase caught up, he realised he actually sucked and left.
When i was in my Cal scout i had about 7 pure 1v1's with him and they would last about a minute, he was in a cal assault. They where probably the best 1v1's ive had cos we thought so alike.
Beta vets have to be adaptable because of all of the updates, this means they are very good at everything, whereas newer 'Legends' are usually 1 playstyle.
I used to be a Tanker so i wasnt really recognised tbh. VAYU Enforcer Pilot 4 Life!
Let's clear a few things up:
1. The game had already been out for a month before I started playing so I would of been one of the last "elite" players to get proto gear, not one of the first.
In fact, The vast majority of the better players had been a part of the closed beta (unlike myself) so they knew the maps & they knew exactly what to spec into, I on the other hand spent the first 4-5 months testing a variety of different builds out.
2. I was still playing when majority of the player base had 40+ mil. SP & had access to AUR bought respecs; Do you honestly think they were all running basic / advanced gear? I may have had more options than most, but I certainly didn't have better gear - I stopped playing long after "the player base had caught up" SP wise.
3. You only refer to our "pure 1v1s" b/c you won the last few we had; Back when I was playing every day, I won most of, if not all our straight up 1v1s. Same goes for 95% of the player base.
However, towards the end, when I was an infrequent player that percentage became more like 80%. I just wasn't on the same level anymore. Much like I wouldn't be now.
3. You weren't recognized back then b/c you simply weren't one of the best players at that time, tanker or no. It was actually an achievement to be considered a great slayer back then b/c there were so many to choose from. It was only after most of the the best infantry players had left that you became one yourself.
The one part that is true is that we did play / think alike; We understood that gun game wasn't everything & compensated for our lack of it in other areas.
I never professed to being the best. I was considered one of the best b/c I consistently topped the leaderboards of both the PC battles & pubs I took part in (Usually playing the latter solo). There aren't many slayers who could do that back then.
Everybody knows that being at the top of the leader boards doesn't mean you're the best, all it shows is that you can you can steamroll pubs & you have a lot of free time on your hands. You can get there playing solo with an assault rifle like I did, or you can get there by playing in full squads with multiple tankers like you & Duna did. It really doesn't mean ****.
You shouldn't feel the need to hold a grudge after all this time; our competitiveness is the only reason we every butted heads in the first place. (Outside of that one time you went full ****** in a forum post & I informed you that you should never go full ******.)
It comes down to the fact that we both just like winning. Now, you can keep trying to convince everyone that I suck & you were always better than me, but dude, I promise you, no one's ever going to believe you.
One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes
Winner of EU Squad Cup
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13ear
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Posted - 2015.11.20 13:23:00 -
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Whilst I'm here, I might as well chime on the main subject - I can only speak for infantry players as that's all I ever played as. This list is based on individual skill alone, it doesn't factor in leadership skills, teamwork, tactics & selflessness.
Imo, the best to ever play the game would be: Protoman, Regnum, Alldin, Almighty, James, Tryhard, Fizzy, Kalente, Soul, Marauder, Funkmaster, Xero, Tiberius, Extacy & the twins.
If I were to factor in leadership skills, teamwork, tactics & selflessness... I'd add myself, Kujo, Cubs, Radar & Zatara to the list.
The best team to ever play the game would have to be TP, Imperfects had more individual talent but I doubt we could of beaten TP in their prime. They had a great leader in Cubs & simply worked better together as a team.
We all joined the game at different times so as a result we all have a different idea of who the "Legends" are, what tends to stay with us is who was considered to be the best when we first came onto the competitive scene; for some it was 6 v 6 corp battles & for others it was 16 v 16 PC battles.
The idea of facing some of the so called "Legendary" players from the beta is much scarier than the reality ever would be (if they were to come back that is) - It's hard to say if they'd be as highly regarded if they had stayed long enough to take part in PC battles.
The players who have been here from the beginning all say that James, Protoman, Regnum & Tryhard are the "greatest ever" b/c they were the first players to be considered the best in all of DUST & to us, no one since has ever lived up to them.
We're all guilty of putting past players on a pedestal b/c everybody romanticizes "the good old days", I choose to believe that the players I've mentioned above really were that good.
One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes
Winner of EU Squad Cup
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13ear
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Posted - 2015.11.20 14:10:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:13ear wrote:Whilst I'm here, I might as well chime on the main subject - I can only speak for infantry players as that's all I ever played as. This list is based on individual skill alone, it doesn't factor in leadership skills, teamwork, tactics & selflessness.
Imo, the best to ever play the game would be: Protoman, Regnum, Alldin, Almighty, James, Tryhard, Fizzy, Kalente, Soul, Marauder, Funkmaster, Xero, Tiberius, Extacy & the twins.
If I were to factor in leadership skills, teamwork, tactics & selflessness... I'd add myself, Kujo, Cubs, Radar & Zatara to the list.
The best team to ever play the game would have to be TP, Imperfects had more individual talent but I doubt we could of beaten TP in their prime. They had a great leader in Cubs & simply worked better together as a team.
We all joined the game at different times so as a result we all have a different idea of who the "Legends" are, what tends to stay with us is who was considered to be the best when we first came onto the competitive scene; for some it was 6 v 6 corp battles & for others it was 16 v 16 PC battles.
The idea of facing some of the so called "Legendary" players from the beta is much scarier than the reality ever would be (if they were to come back that is) - It's hard to say if they'd be as highly regarded if they had stayed long enough to take part in PC battles.
The players who have been here from the beginning all say that James, Protoman, Regnum & Tryhard are the "greatest ever" b/c they were the first players to be considered the best in all of DUST & to us, no one since has ever lived up to them.
We're all guilty of putting past players on a pedestal b/c everybody romanticizes "the good old days", I choose to believe that the players I've mentioned above really were that good. your my legend 13ear <3 made the logi job so easy to just walk behind u and hide over ur left shoulder i still have both pictures and video recording of that one time...(only solid memory of running solo with you) where you dropped like 60 kills in your assault and i ran behind you and dropped 43 and we both ran flawless you had about 3k wp and i had 4500 and we dropped 3 obs just me and you was ******** i miss supporting real slayers ;) now some consider me a killer and im like tsk tsk tsk you has no idea
I recall a few battles like these lol, back when everyone ran a Callogi w/ 1k EHP & earning OBs became almost effortless.
Although the battles that I remember the most are your 20-30 kill games in your indestructible logi-lav, I'd always hear you laughing like a maniac every time you caught anyone :)
One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes
Winner of EU Squad Cup
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