Stop saying things I would say, this is getting uncomfortable

No they don't.

Not unless they bricktank.

And they have less HP than sentinels. And they lack the sentinel resists.

And they move slower than assaults and they're easier to hit.

And they can't throw a core locus nade at you.

Right now the commandos and assault suits are neck and neck in efficiency on the battlefield. One seems as effective as the other. Except the calmando. That one's shield stats suck.

Rattati looks like he may be applying the kinetic (railgun -10/+10) to swarms, and thusly removing that from the minmando. This will result in a slightly less obnoxious swarm launcher.

Realistically if you gave assaults two light weapons instead of light/sidearm the assault and commando would still be equally efficient. The sidearms being effective killing weapons mean that an assault isn't hamstrung by running out of primary ammo.

With rattati talking about buffing the gallente and caldari assault light weapon bonuses things are evening out pretty well overall.

The amarr commando no longer is the bad joke it used to be. The minmando will probably lose its AV king title.
the galmando is actually dangerous as more than an incidental threat now.

And the caldari is still bottom rung for the same reason calassaults are: shield stats.

So tell me... how does the comando bonus break the game? 5% damage per shot average (because the fitting meta of commandos is almost identical to assaults now) isn't going to beat a caldari with a rail recoil bonus, the amarr heat bonus, the min magazine bonus or the gallente if they get a decent damage application bonus.

You saying that a thing is bad when your statement flies in the face of all evidence to the contrary is very interesting.

But I'm game.

Explain to me how the commando damage bonus is unfair. If you can convince me legitimately, you might have a chance of pushing your argument past rattati. Just remember to include testable evidence so we can prove or disprove your thesis.

A bonus for fitting light weapons is great, but please Rattati, dont take the damage bonus!!!

Ehhh. That has more to do with how modules are balanced more than anything.

If damage mods were low slot people would be crying that caldari have an unfair advantage.

If we had a low slot weapon upgrade to match the high we might see actual progress.

well the swarm launcher is caldari tech. HOWEVER just like the nova knives the caldari do not the bonus but the Minmatar gets the bonus.
this is what he was saying- every commando should only get bonuses to their tech.
CCP saw what would happen if you did this though. a caldari commando with a rail rifle/sniper rifle on a roof then you try to fly up there in a dropship just to get hit by swarm. even better with a 10% bonus with 3 complex light damage mods for a total boost of 27% to damage and that means even with shields which gets a natural -20% to swarms, your going to get wrecked before you get close.

Just enough to fit that extra mod. Who adds a mod and doesnt buff cpu/pg anyways? This was something I was certain would be added, wasn't even gonna ask.

So were you going to tell me something I was unaware of?

Or do you just have a burning need to prove me wrong about something?

The 10% commando damage bonus has nothing to do with your post. Nor does the forum topic.

Further, people who only stack reps and plates tend to have a bad time of it. Especially since armor meta is ferroscales over plates.

I've vomited shield buff solutions enough, they will get fixed or they won't. At this point I'm not interested in rehashing old ground I have already tread.

If they put a weapon mod that increases weapon viability on shield suits your argument falls apart because then shields too will be able to stack damage and HP.

But thanks for trying to lecture me. I'm sure that I might have potentially learned something.

Seriously ive been chiming in on shields for months. Don't get your panties in a twist with me about them.

Again, I am seriously thinking about dmg mods to lows and new ROF mods to high

Again, I am seriously thinking about dmg mods to lows and new ROF mods to high

Again, I am seriously thinking about dmg mods to lows and new ROF mods to high

Hmmm, don't the Scramblers heat functions work on an "over time" mechanic rather than per shot still? Would ROF mods allow for more to be dealt out without overheat, and even in less time?

I can feel my Caldari Assault shudder in its closet.

Again, I am seriously thinking about dmg mods to lows and new ROF mods to high

Again, I am seriously thinking about dmg mods to lows and new ROF mods to high

Please address near invincible tanks first. This will be a huge nerf to swarms, especially if you move the bonus over to calmandos as previously stated.

Again, I really don't see the reason to change the meta of which side damage mods land. I do however think that adding ROF mods that go on the lows could be an interesting addition to the game.

Again, I am seriously thinking about dmg mods to lows and new ROF mods to high

I'm really starting to wonder what the difference between Caldari Commandos and Caldari Assaults is going to be if Commandos get a PG/CPU reduction on weaponry.

Both would get a fitting reduction
Both would get a reload speed bonus

Assault gets a grenade and slightly more mobility
Commando gets a built in damage mod and slightly more EHP

As I said, we need to further differentiate these two classes and come up with legitimately different roles than trying to make them more similar. At this point it's like Espresso and Cappuccino. It's still freaggin coffee, people. They're both offensive roles with - increasingly - minor differences. If the Commandos are getting a fitting reduction to fit some new design spectrum involving Racial Dropsuit + Racial Weapon = Profit, that's fine, but the expense is going to leave players wondering what they're geared for. I'd imagine a new player will just look at them and figure them to just have different models.

They need distinction, rather than overlap.

If so then I will fill all my slots with rof and dmg mods then go around with a Carthum.....

Oh and RoF mods don't affect erry weapon equally.

Yes...or at all. My PLC will feel left out.