Instead of PG/CPU, there will be a commando skill, bonus to fitting light weapons

Dude, really...? Are you -trying- to homogenize the Assault/Commandos? Why not just nyx Commandos and combine these two roles if we're going that route?

We should be trying to further differentiate them, not bring them closer together.

Dude, really...? Are you -trying- to homogenize the Assault/Commandos? Why not just nyx Commandos and combine these two roles if we're going that route?

We should be trying to further differentiate them, not bring them closer together.

I'm maxed out in cpu/pg all I can fit on my cal commando after dropping to a lower tier nanohive is a basic reactive plate. Its not really a commando buff if you have to compromise other slots just to fit the new 1. Btw I'm protod in all commandos and I only use specialist weapons.

Instead of PG/CPU, there will be a commando skill, bonus to fitting light weapons

This is an encompassive change I am working on, described in the Warlords thread. Standardzed PG/CPU, fitting skills replace faction differences

This is an encompassive change I am working on, described in the Warlords thread. Standardzed PG/CPU, fitting skills replace faction differences

tbh the damage bonus isnt balanced and i'd be glad to see it go.

Instead of PG/CPU, there will be a commando skill, bonus to fitting light weapons

The damage bonus doesn't matter nearly as much as anyone thinks. The reload bonuses with support weapons and A weapons are what give commandos their real punch.

A commando has a 5% advantage over their racial assault for max DPS output.

You're high. Why would you want a fitting bonus over a damage bonus?

You sure?
I have my Caldari Commando fitted -extremely- well with KinCats and rechargers/regulators and damage mods.
And I have proto weapons on my ADV Caldari Commando.

I say you just want a bigger buff since apparently 1 slot wasn't enough.

You talking to me or the guy I was redponding to?

Every time rattati says fitting bonuses he has yet to replace a combat bonus.

Sentinel heavy weapon bonus was added to the suit bonuses.

Assault light weapon/nade fitting was added in addition to bonusing.

I'm failing to see why anyone would expect him to break the trend with commandos.

If you haven't figured out that rattati has a predictable balance methodology that accepts input from the outside for consideration/backup plan then there's really no hope for you.

The magic 8 ball that the previous team consulted for wisdom was fired for incompetence.

I work nights and happen to be on break right now. It's either troll the forums or watch the viagra commercials that play at this time of night.

Really, what are you a pocket fisherman?

You know theres other ways to blow your time. Fun ways. Like get those mobile chat games and practice flirting or I got this six pack app, Hardfox. I'll knock out some exercises I hate. Except for this app, its intense. Or you can chill and listen to The Savage Nation, best radio show in America.

You do have a phone, right? Better be android.

You're high. Why would you want a fitting bonus over a damage bonus?

Instead of PG/CPU, there will be a commando skill, bonus to fitting light weapons

Because hes sum1 that sounds good here and yet sucks in the game, like most of these nubs.

The damage bonus doesn't matter nearly as much as anyone thinks. The reload bonuses with support weapons and AV weapons are what give commandos their real punch.

A commando has a 5% advantage over their racial assault for max DPS output.

Instead of PG/CPU, there will be a commando skill, bonus to fitting light weapons

at what cost? who honestly runs all damage mods on the assault suits other than the armor tankers?

commandos may only have a small advantage in DPS but they have way more eHP while doing it.

can we also change commando damage bonuses to affect only that race's weapons?
so i can stop seeing all these minmandos with swarms and see more calmandos with them.

Until I read your last sentence, I was agreeing. But I thought you meant based on the existing racial skills, i.e. Minmando has damage bonus to projectile / explosive weapons, which means they *should* use swarms.

Or have I misunderstood which weapons the Minmando's current bonuses apply to? Last I looked, Swarm launchers were either explosive or projectile damage.

On top of the reload and damage bonus?

No they don't.

Not unless they bricktank.

And they have less HP than sentinels. And they lack the sentinel resists.

And they move slower than assaults and they're easier to hit.

And they can't throw a core locus nade at you.

Right now the commandos and assault suits are neck and neck in efficiency on the battlefield. One seems as effective as the other. Except the calmando. That one's shield stats suck.

Rattati looks like he may be applying the kinetic (railgun -10/+10) to swarms, and thusly removing that from the minmando. This will result in a slightly less obnoxious swarm launcher.

Realistically if you gave assaults two light weapons instead of light/sidearm the assault and commando would still be equally efficient. The sidearms being effective killing weapons mean that an assault isn't hamstrung by running out of primary ammo.

With rattati talking about buffing the gallente and caldari assault light weapon bonuses things are evening out pretty well overall.

The amarr commando no longer is the bad joke it used to be. The minmando will probably lose its AV king title.
the galmando is actually dangerous as more than an incidental threat now.

And the caldari is still bottom rung for the same reason calassaults are: shield stats.

So tell me... how does the comando bonus break the game? 5% damage per shot average (because the fitting meta of commandos is almost identical to assaults now) isn't going to beat a caldari with a rail recoil bonus, the amarr heat bonus, the min magazine bonus or the gallente if they get a decent damage application bonus.

You saying that a thing is bad when your statement flies in the face of all evidence to the contrary is very interesting.

But I'm game.

Explain to me how the commando damage bonus is unfair. If you can convince me legitimately, you might have a chance of pushing your argument past rattati. Just remember to include testable evidence so we can prove or disprove your thesis.

Stop saying things I would say, this is getting uncomfortable