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Talon Paetznick II New Eden's Army New Eden's Heros 111	Posted - 2015.05.04 12:20:00 - [1] - Quote The min scouts have a bonus towards the Nk and I saw the melee weapons thread this , all of the races have some sort of rifle and at least one specialty type weapon. A melee weapon might not be a stretch especially since this is a tactical shooter and melee weapons do not need ammo. I do realize nova knives are a specialty weapon. However variety isint bad you can also play to the lore and RP aspects of the game So far these are the ideas I have seen Ammar: Whip , lance , claymore type sword, mace Calidari: Sword, katana, Galente: Short sword , and they have lots of CQC don't know if they really need melee Minmitar: Club , knives of there own, axe all proper murder is premeditated, that's what makes new Eden fun acidental mansluaghter charges in FW however are not
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3157	Posted - 2015.05.04 19:41:00 - [2] - Quote 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? 2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword. 3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). Top lel
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1771	Posted - 2015.05.04 19:58:00 - [3] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? 2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword. 3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat. You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull. Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3157	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:25:00 - [4] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? 2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword. 3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat. You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull. Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might. NK's are valid sidearms, used all the time in many armies of today, and will probably be used in armies of tomorrow, not only due to their utility, but due to being quiet, which NK's generally match. They are, however, idiotic primaries. You're pushing for them to essentially make primary NK's. That's silly. But I'm dumb. kk a gun has much less limits than a sword does. can you swing a sword at something 50m away? Adding ** is fine, skilled for at that. Unnecessary and just plain silly ** is not. For the lulz isn't a valid reason to add things when there's tons of other actually decent things that actually needs to be put into the game. Top lel
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18725	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:36:00 - [5] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? 2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword. 3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat. You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull. Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might. NK's are valid sidearms, used all the time in many armies of today, and will probably be used in armies of tomorrow, not only due to their utility, but due to being quiet, which NK's generally match. They are, however, idiotic primaries. You're pushing for them to essentially make primary NK's. That's silly. But I'm dumb. kk a gun has much less limits than a sword does. can you swing a sword at something 50m away? Adding ** is fine, skilled for at that. Unnecessary and just plain silly ** is not. For the lulz isn't a valid reason to add things when there's tons of other actually decent things that actually needs to be put into the game. Meh if I can get a Riot Shield or a Submission/Shock Maul (aka super powered night stick) no issue to be had. Police and Military Personnel use these every now and then. However..... "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1771	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:36:00 - [6] - Quote Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18725	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:45:00 - [7] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users No they aren't. I'll admit that small number of applications in the melee range have merit like racial knives or riot shields but our characters exist in a universe with such inordinately powerful ranged technologies that running around with a sword over one shoulder is a ******* liability no practical corporate entity. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2957	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:49:00 - [8] - Quote Would any of these things be different or unique enough to warrant their own models and the work that goes into them? Would they add any new and exciting gameplay? all signs point to no, this is pointless redundancy for the sake of redundancy. We have a lot of gun varieties because this is a shooter. We do not have a lot of melee weapon varieties because this isn't dungeons and dragons. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
korrah silain True Illuminate 29	Posted - 2015.05.04 22:08:00 - [9] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Would any of these things be different or unique enough to warrant their own models and the work that goes into them? Would they add any new and exciting gameplay? all signs point to no, this is pointless redundancy for the sake of redundancy. We have a lot of gun varieties because this is a shooter. We do not have a lot of melee weapon varieties because this isn't dungeons and dragons. Well why couldn't they? Gallente use a one handed weapon (shorts sword/maul) and a shield which can be used as mobile cover (using aim button) that can be depleated We have nks which can be charged but have short range A two handed claymore or Axe for whoever which swings slow but can take out heavies in one shot potentially. A whip which can be used at longer range for less damage and maybe be used to drag an opponent. Short distance out of cover or what have you. I'm not saying it should be changed because yes there's a lot that could be fixed, however I'm in favor of it cause I hate but stroking and pistol whipping, think it would add variety, and also people have been looking for more weapons, so maybe melee? Since we are discussing it. Also since melee functions from stamina we can have performance differences there, and it creates more interplay for cardiac regulators. Edit: oh **** just realized people have been asking for the web things from eve that slow ships, this could be a fair way of implementation: myrmydons using nova tridents and webs.
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2120	Posted - 2015.05.04 22:09:00 - [10] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? 2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword. 3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). Because Cal Scout is a Samurai and a Katana goes perfectly with it. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9917	Posted - 2015.05.04 22:16:00 - [11] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Billy Jr Eternal Beings 128	Posted - 2015.05.04 23:57:00 - [12] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun."
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9920	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:11:00 - [13] - Quote Billy Jr wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun." So you consider a single, complex sentence long winded? You must be a heck of a conversationalist. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Billy Jr Eternal Beings 130	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:15:00 - [14] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Billy Jr wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun." So you consider a single, complex sentence long winded? You must be a heck of a conversationalist. Not really, no. I just had nothing better to contribute to what you said.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9920	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:16:00 - [15] - Quote Billy Jr wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Billy Jr wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun." So you consider a single, complex sentence long winded? You must be a heck of a conversationalist. Not really, no. I just had nothing better to contribute to what you said. Fair enough. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1772	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:26:00 - [16] - Quote I know One Eyed King supports the extra Melee weapons and it like he says, Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. All those who oppose just hate getting killed by knives and will rage more to the others close-quarter weapons. There is no real reason to go against this and high technical melee weapons are a must any who says its impossible cannot think correctly. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18727	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:46:00 - [17] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Skill melee users are definitively better killers than coward gun users.Any whom that says its impossible cannot think correctly. I think is more or less the most asinine post containing utterly borked logic I think I've yet come across on these forums....and I regularly do forum battle with Spkr4thedead and Sir Dukey....... "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:54:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Skill melee users are definitively better killers than coward gun users.Any whom that says its impossible cannot think correctly. I think is more or less the most asinine post containing utterly borked logic I think I've yet come across on these forums....and I regularly do forum battle with Spkr4thedead and Sir Dukey....... Slow Clap, Oh ha he ha ha, very amusing you are Amadance There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
shadow tongue True Illuminate 2	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:55:00 - [19] - Quote At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that.
Billy Jr Eternal Beings 130	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:58:00 - [20] - Quote shadow tongue wrote: At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. Yeah. Sure. That's about as realistic as me appearing out of your monitor in a pink bikini and a box of your favorite chocolates.

korrah silain True Illuminate 35	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:05:00 - [21] - Quote Billy Jr wrote: shadow tongue wrote: At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. Yeah. Sure. That's about as realistic as me appearing out of your monitor in a pink bikini and a box of your favorite chocolates. Hey billy that was an interesting bikini you had on last night, good chocolate too. Seriously if you utilized whatever tech you used to pop out of my moniter for shipping you could become a billionaire... Translation: keep hope alive, stranger things have happened.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:12:00 - [22] - Quote shadow tongue wrote: At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. I can work with that. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:17:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? 2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword. 3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat. You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull. Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might. NK's are valid sidearms, used all the time in many armies of today, and will probably be used in armies of tomorrow, not only due to their utility, but due to being quiet, which NK's generally match. They are, however, idiotic primaries. You're pushing for them to essentially make primary NK's. That's silly. But I'm dumb. kk a gun has much less limits than a sword does. can you swing a sword at something 50m away? Adding ** is fine, skilled for at that. Unnecessary and just plain silly ** is not. For the lulz isn't a valid reason to add things when there's tons of other actually decent things that actually needs to be put into the game. Meh if I can get a Riot Shield or a Submission/Shock Maul (aka super powered night stick) no issue to be had. Police and Military Personnel use these every now and then. However..... a riot shield or something deploable could easily be a equipment, and the submission stick could be a sidearm. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:19:00 - [24] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:22:00 - [25] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:23:00 - [26] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: True Adamance wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Skill melee users are definitively better killers than coward gun users.Any whom that says its impossible cannot think correctly. I think is more or less the most asinine post containing utterly borked logic I think I've yet come across on these forums....and I regularly do forum battle with Spkr4thedead and Sir Dukey....... Slow Clap, Oh ha he ha ha, very amusing you are Amadance It's a fair statement. IT's pretty ******* stupid logic. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:24:00 - [27] - Quote Billy Jr wrote: shadow tongue wrote: At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. Yeah. Sure. That's about as realistic as me appearing out of your monitor in a pink bikini and a box of your favorite chocolates. as a sexy woman on top of that? Because if that happened on m bday, my life would be just complete Top lel
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:29:00 - [28] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict. Also, what are you implying about it being a sidearm. There are types so it can go primary or sidearm but mostly Primary because its not a ******* KNIFE!!! There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18731	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:33:00 - [29] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict. Why not also simply make knife swipes our standard melee attack like I've heard they used to be? "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:03:00 - [30] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict. Also, what are you implying about it being a sidearm. There are types so it can go primary or sidearm but mostly Primary because its not a ***** KNIFE!!! a sword in a conflict of GUNS AND ***** TANKS doesn't make sense you nitwit. Top lel

Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:04:00 - [31] - Quote True Adamance wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict. Why not also simply make knife swipes our standard melee attack like I've heard they used to be? They made them into actual weapons because people wanted to always have them out. Also, it used to be knife, not knives, as you only swiped with one. Top lel
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9922	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:08:00 - [32] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:13:00 - [33] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong. Even though I did, I have to use proper grammar to talk **** now? You're still either a blubbering idiot, or simply can't read. Top lel
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18732	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:19:00 - [34] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong. I find it quite to the contrary. I see no point in constructing a grammatically sound sentence structure for someone whom you have no respect. Btr 2 uz da l33t spkz 4 dem nubltz wh0 dnt d3zrv ur tiem. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9922	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:20:00 - [35] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong. Even though I did, I have to use proper grammar to talk **** now? You're still either a blubbering idiot, or simply can't read. It is just ironic to speak like someone who can't grasp language while calling someone else dumb. It says all more about you than the person you are insulting. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
korrah silain True Illuminate 35	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:24:00 - [36] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: 1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight? The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong. Even though I did, I have to use proper grammar to talk **** now? You're still either a blubbering idiot, or simply can't read. You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect...
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:37:00 - [37] - Quote korrah silain wrote: You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect... No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3161	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:39:00 - [38] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: It is just ironic to speak like someone who can't grasp language while calling someone else dumb. It says more about you than the person you are insulting. Explain yourself, as so far, your statement makes zero sense. Also, mission accomplished. Top lel
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9922	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:43:00 - [39] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: One Eyed King wrote: It is just ironic to speak like someone who can't grasp language while calling someone else dumb. It says more about you than the person you are insulting. Explain yourself, as so far, your statement makes zero sense. Also, mission accomplished. Indeed. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
korrah silain True Illuminate 36	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:43:00 - [40] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: korrah silain wrote: You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect... No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat. you are all being children are we going to address each others arguments on their merits or just continue with some variation of "I'm not dumb you are!" All night?

BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 03:06:00 - [41] - Quote [/quote] Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill me a sword in a conflict of GUNS AND ***** TANKS doesn't make sense you nitwit.[/quote] You're the nitwit, how the heck is a ***** knife better and has more logic destroying a tank than a Sword or something as else. A Nova sword or a condensed blazing sword sounds and looks more like it makes sense, you augment is flaw and ridiculous. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 03:09:00 - [42] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: korrah silain wrote: You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect... No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat. you are all being children are we going to address each others arguments on their merits or just continue with some variation of "I'm not dumb you are!" All night? We will most likely continue There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6179	Posted - 2015.05.05 03:39:00 - [43] - Quote It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances. We have enough BS cartoon ** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 04:54:00 - [44] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances. We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pvp do we have? We kill players. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18741	Posted - 2015.05.05 04:57:00 - [45] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances. We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pvp do we have? We kill players. Just accept it dude some people don't like arcade-y sword swinging bullshit because it is "NOT" cool out of context in what should be a tactical shooter. As usually I can't argue with how Pokey does things. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 05:26:00 - [46] - Quote True Adamance wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances. We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pvp do we have? We kill players. Just accept it dude some people don't like arcade-y sword swinging bullshit because it is "NOT" cool out of context in what should be a tactical shooter. As usually I can't argue with how Pokey does things. I do accept some people dislike it because of the out of context, but is this game really tactical? Merc I meet don't act like it, its more... Better gear kills than Skill doing kills. 6 proto beats genius for he dies of ridiculous damage. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6180	Posted - 2015.05.05 05:53:00 - [47] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances. We have enough BS cartoon ** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pve do we have? We kill players. I have no idea what any of that has to do with what I said. We don't have PvE therefor we should have katanas? lol Like seriously, just because you want cartoony bouncing around with swords, does not mean that it's acceptable in a game that is supposed to be a heavy gritty shooter. Doesn't make me a hater, just makes me not want another Destiny/Warframe/Super Mario FPS "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
korrah silain True Illuminate 43	Posted - 2015.05.05 06:11:00 - [48] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances. We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pve do we have? We kill players. I have no idea what any of that has to do with what I said. We don't have PvE therefor we should have katanas? lol Like seriously, just because you want cartoony bouncing around with swords, does not mean that it's acceptable in a game that is supposed to be a heavy gritty shooter. Doesn't make me a hater, just makes me not want another Destiny/Warframe/Super Mario FPS Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6180	Posted - 2015.05.05 06:22:00 - [49] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons? The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such. Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny **. It's Warframe . Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
korrah silain True Illuminate 43	Posted - 2015.05.05 06:44:00 - [50] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons? The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such. Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny **. It's Warframe **. Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play. To me, that stuff seems as out of place as a dragon or a chainsaw in Dust. So your argument is: "doesn't feel right to me"? OK I guess that's fair, but its also presuming that it will change the meta into that, and I disagree that it will. There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety.

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6180	Posted - 2015.05.05 08:13:00 - [51] - Quote korrah silain wrote: There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 360	Posted - 2015.05.05 10:55:00 - [52] - Quote Minjas have the bonus but knives belong to Caldari. 48th Special Operations Force. Twitter- @48SOF
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1987	Posted - 2015.05.05 11:23:00 - [53] - Quote If I want to play a sword game, I play Bushido Blade. Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
korrah silain True Illuminate 43	Posted - 2015.05.05 15:53:00 - [54] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy? No? Huh.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 16:56:00 - [55] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: If I want to play a sword game, I play Bushido Blade. I think you already said that Pokey Dravon wrote: Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? That is ridiculous, so what your saying is... You just don't get it and is without a reason other than "It feels out of place". Give it 2 months after is implemented and nothing will have chang, much, sense we get cooler weapons than guns. Your feeling towards this is purely bias and just because its future base doesn't mean close-combat weapons are impractical to a gun. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6181	Posted - 2015.05.05 18:36:00 - [56] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy? No? Huh. And a sword offers a significant difference in gameplay compared to a knife? More damage, slower, and longer range? How is that anything more than a variant of the knife? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
korrah silain True Illuminate 46	Posted - 2015.05.05 19:49:00 - [57] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy? No? Huh. And a sword offers a significant difference in gameplay compared to a knife? More damage, slower, and longer range? How is that anything more than a variant of the knife? Explain to me exactly how this will alter gameplay significantly. Convince me that further breaking the atmosphere and gameplay that brought me to Dust, is worth it. Sigh: repost from ultimate melee board discussion Gallente: tower shield/ one handed sword fits with their combat doctrine of preserving combatants life and emphasis on cqc Caldari: said trifdent because its historically paired with nets, though any pole arm would do. I propose a net/ polearm for 2 reasons; it satisfies the requests on the boards I've seen for a stasis webifier equivalent, and it fits caldari doctrine(in as much as a melee weapon can) by immobilizing the enemy, thus stopping them from closing ranks with(theoretical) gunline allies, and can be used to strand someone out of covers...a sort of advance defense. Also spears have the longest reach of melee weapons traditionally used in warfare. Minmitar whip: because again it can be used as a snare which harkens to their Savannah hunter heritage, and is more tactically versatile if we give it a drag effect. Amaran great sword: with av capabilitys really brings home the idea of superiority when you can kick a vehicle... There this introduces: a new av option, and three new tactics to work into the battlefield. They are functionally different from knives and hypothetically could help balance commandos if we give them a speed boost now that I think of it...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18757	Posted - 2015.05.05 20:46:00 - [58] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy? No? Huh. And a sword offers a significant difference in gameplay compared to a knife? More damage, slower, and longer range? How is that anything more than a variant of the knife? Explain to me exactly how this will alter gameplay significantly. Convince me that further breaking the atmosphere and gameplay that brought me to Dust, is worth it. Sigh: repost from ultimate melee board discussion Gallente: tower shield/ one handed sword fits with their combat doctrine of preserving combatants life and emphasis on cqc Caldari: said trifdent because its historically paired with nets, though any pole arm would do. I propose a net/ polearm for 2 reasons; it satisfies the requests on the boards I've seen for a stasis webifier equivalent, and it fits caldari doctrine(in as much as a melee weapon can) by immobilizing the enemy, thus stopping them from closing ranks with(theoretical) gunline allies, and can be used to strand someone out of covers...a sort of advance defense. Also spears have the longest reach of melee weapons traditionally used in warfare. Minmitar whip: because again it can be used as a snare which harkens to their Savannah hunter heritage, and is more tactically versatile if we give it a drag effect. Amaran great sword: with av capabilitys really brings home the idea of superiority when you can kick a vehicle... There this introduces: a new av option, and three new tactics to work into the battlefield. They are functionally different from knives and hypothetically could help balance commandos if we give them a speed boost now that I think of it... Yelling "counterplay" and "tactics" from the roof tops is fine but what does that mean? Why should the tone of this game that was gritty and dark suddenly shift to acade-y to accommodate these unbelievable weapons that continue to not make sense in a New Eden setting? EDIT: Having read that response....... I genuinely cannot believe it. You consider a solo player rushing a gunline tactical and more over would suggest players attempt to do this on a Commando frame? I uh...... I'm genuinely stumped. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1773	Posted - 2015.05.05 22:20:00 - [59] - Quote Players like fun and seriousness There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Talon Paetznick II New Eden's Army New Eden's Heros 115	Posted - 2015.05.05 22:23:00 - [60] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons? The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such. Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny **. It's Warframe **. Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play. To me, that stuff seems as out of place as a dragon or a chainsaw in Dust. but I want to ride into battle on a giant mechanical dragon. all proper murder is premeditated, that's what makes new Eden fun acidental mansluaghter charges in FW however are not

BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.05 22:35:00 - [61] - Quote Talon Paetznick II wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons? The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such. Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny **. It's Warframe **. Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play. To me, that stuff seems as out of place as a dragon or a chainsaw in Dust. but I want to ride into battle on a giant mechanical dragon. Mech Dragons are machine base, THEY SHOULD BE ADDED. And heat swords too. And wormholes There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6183	Posted - 2015.05.06 00:07:00 - [62] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Gallente: tower shield/ one handed sword fits with their combat doctrine of preserving combatants life and emphasis on cqc Caldari: said trifdent because its historically paired with nets, though any pole arm would do. I propose a net/ polearm for 2 reasons; it satisfies the requests on the boards I've seen for a stasis webifier equivalent, and it fits caldari doctrine(in as much as a melee weapon can) by immobilizing the enemy, thus stopping them from closing ranks with(theoretical) gunline allies, and can be used to strand someone out of covers...a sort of advance defense. Also spears have the longest reach of melee weapons traditionally used in warfare. Minmitar whip: because again it can be used as a snare which harkens to their Savannah hunter heritage, and is more tactically versatile if we give it a drag effect. Amaran great sword: with av capabilitys really brings home the idea of superiority when you can kick a vehicle... There this introduces: a new av option, and three new tactics to work into the battlefield. They are functionally different from knives and hypothetically could help balance commandos if we give them a speed boost now that I think of it... Tower Shield + Sword So basically a Sentinel with a long knife. Nothing new here. Trident + ....net? Again just longer range melee, the only thing that's new here would be the webifier effect, which doesn't require a melee weapon to actually be a thing. Whip A grab effect? Why? What's the advantage of pulling them in? What will do you do once you have them there? whip them at close range while they shoot your in the chest? Or do you stick with 'ensnare' which is again....basically a webifier, which doesn't and shouldn't be tied to a weapon. Greatsword Ah yes, so kinda like....Nova Knives, which already do some AV damage. Thing is not one does it because you can't keep up with a tank, or a dropship, or an LAV. Or better yet you DO stab a stationary LAV and it blows up and kills you in the process. But actually you should test this repeatedly. Your running around chasing HAVs with a knife will amuse everyone. Get some Yakkety Sax going. It'll be great. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 00:44:00 - [63] - Quote Quote: =Pokey DravonGreatsword Ah yes, so kinda like....Nova Knives, which already do some AV damage. Thing is not one does it because you can't keep up with a tank, or a dropship, or an LAV. Or better yet you DO stab a stationary LAV and it blows up and kills you in the process. But actually you should test this repeatedly. Your running around chasing HAVs with a knife will amuse everyone. Get some Yakkety Sax going. It'll be great. You Blow up vehicles when you weaken them,say 20-110 than grenade, you don't continuously slash and kill yourself. Swords I listed have different types on my thread have different range, damage, swings, and attack speed. Did you even read my post, say really read it. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6183	Posted - 2015.05.06 00:45:00 - [64] - Quote Oh read it. I just don't really see why we need to introduce entirely new weapon types for functions that can be easily obtained with existing weapons or variants of. Its pointless to even talk about it. If we're not getting new HAV models or proper racial variants of AV weapons, then adding a slew of silly melee weapons is about as bottom of the priority list as you can get. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 00:58:00 - [65] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Oh read it. I just don't really see why we need to introduce entirely new weapon types for functions that can be easily obtained with existing weapons or variants of. Its pointless to even talk about it. If we're not getting new HAV models or proper racial variants of AV weapons, then adding a slew of silly melee weapons is about as bottom of the priority list as you can get. Why use one tank than than the other. Why add the combat and rail rifle Why add new tanks why add new game modes why are the Devs adding Warp Gates. So the Player doesn't get bored of the current stuff. Even if I have to pay to use them, I would and will because I want to. I don't spent much money on this game because its all the same. What I'm saying is you add a gun, gives us more melee. Agaim why add those two guns and tank, because people wanted them even when they weren't necessary. Why not Swords,Lances, and a Hammer that sends out Shockwaves when it hits your shield. Why... There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:03:00 - [66] - Quote What would make Dust much more unique and different to other First-person shooters would be to have things from previous game and place them here. Make Dust a Futuristic First-person shooters with multiple melee weapons. What so wrong about that. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18766	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:10:00 - [67] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Oh read it. I just don't really see why we need to introduce entirely new weapon types for functions that can be easily obtained with existing weapons or variants of. Its pointless to even talk about it. If we're not getting new HAV models or proper racial variants of AV weapons, then adding a slew of silly melee weapons is about as bottom of the priority list as you can get. Why use one tank than than the other. Why add the combat and rail rifle Why add new tanks why add new game modes why are the Devs adding Warp Gates. So the Player doesn't get bored of the current stuff. Even if I have to pay to use them, I would and will because I want to. I don't spent much money on this game because its all the same. What I'm saying is you add a gun, gives us more melee. Agaim why add those two guns and tank, because people wanted them even when they weren't necessary. Why not Swords,Lances, and a Hammer that sends out Shockwaves when it hits your shield. Why... The Tanks and core racial rifles have always been necessary. I believe you will see case and point when Rattati releases the Amarr reskinned tanks. Either they will not have enough fitting capacity to make their 2/5 lay out worth it, or will have so much we can abuse it to high heaven. They are required for balance and are currently in, and have always been a part of, this game. A sword and whip not so much required as desired. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:14:00 - [68] - Quote Quote: =True Adamance The Tanks and core racial rifles have always been necessary. I believe you will see case and point when Rattati releases the Amarr reskinned tanks. Either they will not have enough fitting capacity to make their 2/5 lay out worth it, or will have so much we can abuse it to high heaven. I know who(Meaning more, whom meaning 1) I'm abusing it on. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18766	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:24:00 - [69] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Quote: =True Adamance The Tanks and core racial rifles have always been necessary. I believe you will see case and point when Rattati releases the Amarr reskinned tanks. Either they will not have enough fitting capacity to make their 2/5 lay out worth it, or will have so much we can abuse it to high heaven. I know who(Meaning more, whom meaning 1) I'm abusing it on. Tanks as they exist now will not be able to destroy one another at worst unless they are caught during cool down and at best they will barely be different to the Gal HAV so go ahead and try. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 01:29:00 - [70] - Quote True Adamance wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Quote: =True Adamance The Tanks and core racial rifles have always been necessary. I believe you will see case and point when Rattati releases the Amarr reskinned tanks. Either they will not have enough fitting capacity to make their 2/5 lay out worth it, or will have so much we can abuse it to high heaven. I know who(Meaning more, whom meaning 1) I'm abusing it on. Tanks as they exist now will not be able to destroy one another at worst unless they are caught during cool down and at best they will barely be different to the Gal HAV so go ahead and try. I would use under certain situations, like the guys I'm killing There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.

Oswald Rehnquist 1512	Posted - 2015.05.06 02:44:00 - [71] - Quote I remember this conversation back from yesteryear I remember advocating for a heavy melee weapon as well, funny how things come around full circle. Anyways, here is my idea, don't judge it until you give it some thought. Nova Boulder, with successful lab demonstrations on Endor's moon, Allotek scientists have developed a new melee weapon by harnessing the quantum crystallization found within the crust to increase the viscosity of luminous waves to a stable solid. Friend Foe Identification allows safe handling for wielders who can use these as high intensity energy shields that also have the ability to roll over enemy infantry causing massive hemorrhaging. A secondary mode can also be activated by having wielders stand atop high places to push these down on unsuspecting foes. MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP!! To help further the trend of soft sci fi, I also advocate for multi colored alien space chicks with "open minds", but animal mounts or pscionics work as well. Below 28 dB
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 03:27:00 - [72] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I remember this conversation back from yesteryear I remember advocating for a heavy melee weapon as well, funny how things come around full circle. Anyways, here is my idea, don't judge it until you give it some thought. Nova Boulder, with successful lab demonstrations on Endor's moon, Allotek scientists have developed a new melee weapon by harnessing the quantum crystallization found within the crust to increase the viscosity of luminous waves to a stable solid. Friend Foe Identification allows safe handling for wielders who can use these as high intensity energy shields that also have the ability to roll over enemy infantry causing massive hemorrhaging. A secondary mode can also be activated by having wielders stand atop high places to push these down on unsuspecting foes. MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP!! To help further the trend of soft sci fi, I also advocate for multi colored alien space chicks with "open minds", but animal mounts or pscionics work as well. Nice There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6185	Posted - 2015.05.06 04:23:00 - [73] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I remember this conversation back from yesteryear I remember advocating for a heavy melee weapon as well, funny how things come around full circle. Anyways, here is my idea, don't judge it until you give it some thought. Nova Boulder, with successful lab demonstrations on Endor's moon, Allotek scientists have developed a new melee weapon by harnessing the quantum crystallization found within the crust to increase the viscosity of luminous waves to a stable solid. Friend Foe Identification allows safe handling for wielders who can use these as high intensity energy shields that also have the ability to roll over enemy infantry causing massive hemorrhaging. A secondary mode can also be activated by having wielders stand atop high places to push these down on unsuspecting foes. MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP!! To help further the trend of soft sci fi, I also advocate for multi colored alien space chicks with "open minds", but animal mounts or pscionics work as well. Similarly reasonable. Katamari514? The Amarr version should be a disco ball that shoots lasers. The Gallente one must be on fire. The Minmatar one has to be made of steel. And the Caldari would be..........blue. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18772	Posted - 2015.05.06 04:28:00 - [74] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I remember this conversation back from yesteryear I remember advocating for a heavy melee weapon as well, funny how things come around full circle. Anyways, here is my idea, don't judge it until you give it some thought. Nova Boulder, with successful lab demonstrations on Endor's moon, Allotek scientists have developed a new melee weapon by harnessing the quantum crystallization found within the crust to increase the viscosity of luminous waves to a stable solid. Friend Foe Identification allows safe handling for wielders who can use these as high intensity energy shields that also have the ability to roll over enemy infantry causing massive hemorrhaging. A secondary mode can also be activated by having wielders stand atop high places to push these down on unsuspecting foes. MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP!! To help further the trend of soft sci fi, I also advocate for multi colored alien space chicks with "open minds", but animal mounts or pscionics work as well. Similarly reasonable. Katamari514? You ******* know it "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6185	Posted - 2015.05.06 04:30:00 - [75] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I remember this conversation back from yesteryear I remember advocating for a heavy melee weapon as well, funny how things come around full circle. Anyways, here is my idea, don't judge it until you give it some thought. Nova Boulder, with successful lab demonstrations on Endor's moon, Allotek scientists have developed a new melee weapon by harnessing the quantum crystallization found within the crust to increase the viscosity of luminous waves to a stable solid. Friend Foe Identification allows safe handling for wielders who can use these as high intensity energy shields that also have the ability to roll over enemy infantry causing massive hemorrhaging. A secondary mode can also be activated by having wielders stand atop high places to push these down on unsuspecting foes. MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP!! To help further the trend of soft sci fi, I also advocate for multi colored alien space chicks with "open minds", but animal mounts or pscionics work as well. Similarly reasonable. Katamari514? You ***** know it The Amarr version should be a disco ball that shoots lasers. The Gallente one must be on fire. The Minmatar one has to be made of steel. And the Caldari would be..........blue. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18777	Posted - 2015.05.06 04:33:00 - [76] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: True Adamance wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I remember this conversation back from yesteryear I remember advocating for a heavy melee weapon as well, funny how things come around full circle. Anyways, here is my idea, don't judge it until you give it some thought. Nova Boulder, with successful lab demonstrations on Endor's moon, Allotek scientists have developed a new melee weapon by harnessing the quantum crystallization found within the crust to increase the viscosity of luminous waves to a stable solid. Friend Foe Identification allows safe handling for wielders who can use these as high intensity energy shields that also have the ability to roll over enemy infantry causing massive hemorrhaging. A secondary mode can also be activated by having wielders stand atop high places to push these down on unsuspecting foes. MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP!! To help further the trend of soft sci fi, I also advocate for multi colored alien space chicks with "open minds", but animal mounts or pscionics work as well. Similarly reasonable. Katamari514? You ******* know it The Amarr version should be a disco ball that shoots lasers. The Gallente one must be on fire. The Minmatar one has to be made of steel. And the Caldari would be..........blue. I don't think they quite understand Katamari Forever... "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6185	Posted - 2015.05.06 04:55:00 - [77] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I don't think they quite understand Katamari Forever... Nova Cube confirmed. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
korrah silain True Illuminate 48	Posted - 2015.05.06 05:44:00 - [78] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: Gallente: tower shield/ one handed sword fits with their combat doctrine of preserving combatants life and emphasis on cqc Caldari: said trifdent because its historically paired with nets, though any pole arm would do. I propose a net/ polearm for 2 reasons; it satisfies the requests on the boards I've seen for a stasis webifier equivalent, and it fits caldari doctrine(in as much as a melee weapon can) by immobilizing the enemy, thus stopping them from closing ranks with(theoretical) gunline allies, and can be used to strand someone out of covers...a sort of advance defense. Also spears have the longest reach of melee weapons traditionally used in warfare. Minmitar whip: because again it can be used as a snare which harkens to their Savannah hunter heritage, and is more tactically versatile if we give it a drag effect. Amaran great sword: with av capabilitys really brings home the idea of superiority when you can kick a vehicle... There this introduces: a new av option, and three new tactics to work into the battlefield. They are functionally different from knives and hypothetically could help balance commandos if we give them a speed boost now that I think of it... Tower Shield + Sword So basically a Sentinel with a long knife. Nothing new here. Trident + ....net? Again just longer range melee, the only thing that's new here would be the webifier effect, which doesn't require a melee weapon to actually be a thing. Whip A grab effect? Why? What's the advantage of pulling them in? What will do you do once you have them there? whip them at close range while they shoot your in the chest? Or do you stick with 'ensnare' which is again....basically a webifier, which doesn't and shouldn't be tied to a weapon. Greatsword Ah yes, so kinda like....Nova Knives, which already do some AV damage. Thing is not one does it because you can't keep up with a tank, or a dropship, or an LAV. Or better yet you DO stab a stationary LAV and it blows up and kills you in the process. But actually you should test this repeatedly. Your running around chasing HAVs with a knife will amuse everyone. Get some Yakkety Sax going. It'll be great. Your assessments are innacurate or unfounded: Shield and sword(gives directional HP boost on any suit not just sentinals its an option that can be employed differently in different situations on different suits your over simply location is flawed. Net/polearm: why SHOULDNT a net be tied to a weapon? And immobilization is useful for any number of situations, quick get away, stranding opponent out of cover for Ally's to target. Heavy sword: like the others say the melee is just to weaken, nades are for the finish. Whip/snare: secondary is for support, can be used to bring people into the line if fire of your allies, or to delay an opponent so an ally can get into cover. Seriously though as someone who successfully uses nk I can vouch melee is viable and more options will open up new approaches to combat.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 05:59:00 - [79] - Quote Quote: =Korrah silain Seriously though as someone who successfully uses nk I can vouch melee is viable and more options will open up new approaches to combat. As am I, I concur with the Caldarian Lifeform. I find melee much more groundbreaking than another gun(Unless shockwave rifle and Darkmater or blackhole gun) Its Fun, to bring a knife to a gunfight and even better winning in it. I still find it awesome to die meleeing as I become peeve when dying while using a gun. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6186	Posted - 2015.05.06 07:35:00 - [80] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Your assessments are innacurate or unfounded: Shield and sword(gives directional HP boost on any suit not just sentinals its an option that can be employed differently in different situations on different suits your over simply location is flawed. Net/polearm: why SHOULDNT a net be tied to a weapon? And immobilization is useful for any number of situations, quick get away, stranding opponent out of cover for Ally's to target. Heavy sword: like the others say the melee is just to weaken, nades are for the finish. Whip/snare: secondary is for support, can be used to bring people into the line if fire of your allies, or to delay an opponent so an ally can get into cover. Seriously though as someone who successfully uses nk I can vouch melee is viable and more options will open up new approaches to combat. sigh Well I'm tired of bickering, clearly we're not going to see eye to eye so I'll just write it off as a disagreement on what kind of things actually fit the universe and what don't. I think this sort of thing completely tears apart a massive part of what I like about Dust, you seem to think these ideas fit in fine. Obviously a pretty clear fundamental difference in opinion. But don't take it the wrong way when I say that I would likely quit Dust if this sort of stuff started popping up in-game. It would honestly ruin the experience for me in such a way that I would be disinclined to continue supporting or playing the game. All too often I see scope creep in games which have a very rich and vibrant universe that is ruined by things that are either out of place or taken to such an extreme that it betrays the setting. I suppose I find it unsettling when games try to incorporate elements from other games "because it's cool" even if it doesn't really fit the original theme. I'm a big fan of RPGs, particularly sci-fi ones, so story and setting are by far the most important aspects of a game to me. So even if an element mechanically works to alter gameplay in a meaningful manner, if it ruins the setting or tone of the game, it ruins the game for me. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net

Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3166	Posted - 2015.05.06 08:11:00 - [81] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: korrah silain wrote: You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect... No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat. you are all being children are we going to address each others arguments on their merits or just continue with some variation of "I'm not dumb you are!" All night? Well, I already did, they went down this path. Which means mission accomplished. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3166	Posted - 2015.05.06 08:14:00 - [82] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill me a sword in a conflict of GUNS AND ***** TANKS doesn't make sense you nitwit. You're the nitwit, how the heck is a *** knife better and has more logic destroying a tank than a Sword or something as else. A Nova sword or a condensed blazing sword sounds and looks more like it makes sense, you augment is flaw and ridiculous. A knife can be consealed much better, hence why it can be easily used as a sidearm. a knife can be swung faster, making it being able to have a high DPS, making it able to reasonably kill lightly armored targets in a short period of time. knives also are a lot of the time used in comparable ranges to other sidearms. a ***** sword has none of the above. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3166	Posted - 2015.05.06 08:17:00 - [83] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances. We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Work in progress, amirite Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3166	Posted - 2015.05.06 08:28:00 - [84] - Quote I just have one good question then to end this: Would you rather use a sword and shield over a rifle in actual real world combat.? Top lel
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1774	Posted - 2015.05.06 10:36:00 - [85] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: I just have one good question then to end this: Would you rather use a sword and shield over a rifle in actual real world combat.? High tech Sword and a shield is good so you don't get hit in the face because your weak force field couldn't stand. My playstyle consist of using the Nk more than my Breach Pistol Again... High tech melee and physical shields not seeing that being bad. Yes I would. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
korrah silain True Illuminate 49	Posted - 2015.05.06 17:13:00 - [86] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: korrah silain wrote: Your assessments are innacurate or unfounded: Shield and sword(gives directional HP boost on any suit not just sentinals its an option that can be employed differently in different situations on different suits your over simply location is flawed. Net/polearm: why SHOULDNT a net be tied to a weapon? And immobilization is useful for any number of situations, quick get away, stranding opponent out of cover for Ally's to target. Heavy sword: like the others say the melee is just to weaken, nades are for the finish. Whip/snare: secondary is for support, can be used to bring people into the line if fire of your allies, or to delay an opponent so an ally can get into cover. Seriously though as someone who successfully uses nk I can vouch melee is viable and more options will open up new approaches to combat. sigh Well I'm tired of bickering, clearly we're not going to see eye to eye so I'll just write it off as a disagreement on what kind of things actually fit the universe and what don't. I think this sort of thing completely tears apart a massive part of what I like about Dust, you seem to think these ideas fit in fine. Obviously a pretty clear fundamental difference in opinion. But don't take it the wrong way when I say that I would likely quit Dust if this sort of stuff started popping up in-game. It would honestly ruin the experience for me in such a way that I would be disinclined to continue supporting or playing the game. All too often I see scope creep in games which have a very rich and vibrant universe that is ruined by things that are either out of place or taken to such an extreme that it betrays the setting. I suppose I find it unsettling when games try to incorporate elements from other games "because it's cool" even if it doesn't really fit the original theme. I'm a big fan of RPGs, particularly sci-fi ones, so story and setting are by far the most important aspects of a game to me. So even if an element mechanically works to alter gameplay in a meaningful manner, if it ruins the setting or tone of the game, it ruins the game for me. I respect your maturity and our difference in opinion pokey, and for the record I doubt the devs are going to move on this but its still a cool idea.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1787	Posted - 2015.05.06 20:05:00 - [87] - Quote Yes, if anything this is a 2yr time before I see this. But with Rattati, I would say 9- 14 months. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Oswald Rehnquist 1514	Posted - 2015.05.06 21:04:00 - [88] - Quote This convo is mainly about the world of soft sci fi vs hard sci fi. Which is what my original post was attempting to hit in a humorous way. The Eve Universe tries hard to keep its sci fi on the harder side of the spectrum. They even have a rational explanation as to why we can keep our memories/experience upon death. Most other games just hand wave this. I fence, I go shooting, I like weapons, I like the history of weapons and reading about future weapon technology plausibility. In no way shape or form would a sword be superior in any given situation as it exists in a world with guns of equal technology. To do so would be to reduce the hardness of the sci fi and into fantasy. I don't think people truly appreciate how effective guns really are. Within current tech, our unaided bare fist punches as humans have more force and energy behind it than a bullet from a gun. Yet it is the bullet from the gun that kills, because the gun is not restricted by human limitations and dispersion. Its able to concentrate its force onto a smaller area. So now with energy weapons, you have a weapon that spends a fraction of the energy for a millisecond, which can cover vast distances once it leaves its point of origin vs a theoretical energy sword that is burning away its energy for a much longer period over its entire blade spreading out the energy. So swords automatically do less damage with the same level of energy. Plus having that kind of energy so close to your own body is also equally dangerous, whereas in a gun the energy is safely compartmentalize away from the user. Even for non energy sword concepts like monomolecular blades, Van der Waals forces would cause the two pieces to reconnect again, so that isn't really feasible either. Effective distance, essentially at the distance guns are no longer effective, swords are no longer effective. I know this entirely based on my fencing/sparing. Once you are within grappling range, you are able to manipulate your opponents melee hand or can outmaneuver it with a dagger. And any attack against an unsuspecting opponent with a melee weapon is equally taken care of if not done better by the use of a dagger due to the increased mobility to target more critical areas. So daggers definitely have an advantage here where guns or swords would have much less. Mass effect, star wars, etc are examples of soft sci fi / space fantasies, where real world physics and tactics are changed for the sake of the "rule of cool". Eve tries to stay away from the rule of cool, which is why I think large melee weapons wouldn't fit into Eve's theme. I am not saying large sci fi melee weapons aren't cool, they are as they appeal to our simplistic and biological understanding of violence, its why bone in thickest in our foreheads than other parts of our skull because we evolved to get punched and not shot when we get into fights. But large melee weapons are definitely apart of the space fantasy / soft sci fi culture rather than the hard sci fi culture due to how technology has outpaced our biological evolution. Below 28 dB
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3168	Posted - 2015.05.06 22:19:00 - [89] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: I just have one good question then to end this: Would you rather use a sword and shield over a rifle in actual real world combat.? High tech Sword and a shield is good so you don't get hit in the face because your weak force field couldn't stand. My playstyle consist of using the Nk more than my Breach Pistol Again... High tech melee and physical shields not seeing that being bad. Unless mercs act dumb Yes I would use it and this is a game.... Set eras after Earths leave. Your telling me sword and shield is meaningless, you can't think a shield is worthless(Riot shield-True) Your augment still looks like sheer ignorance out for someting you just don't want others to have for dumb reasons. Again you are in battle with mercs who will kill you for isk, they know you're a clone, what does a conceal knife have to do with that. Knife in public, Sword on field. Sticking with my augment. Godin Thekiller wrote: A ***** sword has none of the above. Which sword type? 1: Shields made to be able to fit reasonably within a shield would be weaker than the shielding within a Scout suit, same for Armor. You can't just simply say "Oh, it'll be better because reasons". That makes zero sense. Also, your hi tech shield, my hi tech rifle will shoot straight through it. 2: I don't give a ** about your playstyle, a firearm has consistantly been proven to be VASTLY better than a bladed weapon. This has been proven time and time again, over actual history, and in SEVERAL video games. 3: Riot shield and a sword and shield is two separate things. Don't even try and act as if they are the same thing. 4: You think a melee weapon is more suitable than a rifle. Okay, find a time machine, ask all those slain tribal warriors in Latin/South America and the Sub-Saharan Africa regions and ask them how much better their swords was vs. dem boom sticks. Top lel
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18822	Posted - 2015.05.06 22:26:00 - [90] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: I just have one good question then to end this: Would you rather use a sword and shield over a rifle in actual real world combat.? High tech Sword and a shield is good so you don't get hit in the face because your weak force field couldn't stand. My playstyle consist of using the Nk more than my Breach Pistol Again... High tech melee and physical shields not seeing that being bad. Unless mercs act dumb Yes I would use it and this is a game.... Set eras after Earths leave. Your telling me sword and shield is meaningless, you can't think a shield is worthless(Riot shield-True) Your augment still looks like sheer ignorance out for someting you just don't want others to have for dumb reasons. Again you are in battle with mercs who will kill you for isk, they know you're a clone, what does a conceal knife have to do with that. Knife in public, Sword on field. Sticking with my augment. Godin Thekiller wrote: A ***** sword has none of the above. Which sword type? 1: Shields made to be able to fit reasonably within a shield would be weaker than the shielding within a Scout suit, same for Armor. You can't just simply say "Oh, it'll be better because reasons". That makes zero sense. Also, your hi tech shield, my hi tech rifle will shoot straight through it. 2: I don't give a ** about your playstyle, a firearm has consistantly been proven to be VASTLY better than a bladed weapon. This has been proven time and time again, over actual history, and in SEVERAL video games. 3: Riot shield and a sword and shield is two separate things. Don't even try and act as if they are the same thing. 4: You think a melee weapon is more suitable than a rifle. Okay, find a time machine, ask all those slain tribal warriors in Latin/South America and the Sub-Saharan Africa regions and ask them how much better their swords was vs. dem boom sticks. To clarify Riot Shields are believable, to some very small degree, as weapons but they themselves are only used to protect police from thrown objects, bludgeoning attacks, and maybe ricochets. They will not OHKO dropsuits or even inflict much more damage than a punch if used to attack and should ideally always be used with a Secondary Fire Arm. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern

Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3168	Posted - 2015.05.06 22:28:00 - [91] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: I just have one good question then to end this: Would you rather use a sword and shield over a rifle in actual real world combat.? High tech Sword and a shield is good so you don't get hit in the face because your weak force field couldn't stand. My playstyle consist of using the Nk more than my Breach Pistol Again... High tech melee and physical shields not seeing that being bad. Unless mercs act dumb Yes I would use it and this is a game.... Set eras after Earths leave. Your telling me sword and shield is meaningless, you can't think a shield is worthless(Riot shield-True) Your augment still looks like sheer ignorance out for someting you just don't want others to have for dumb reasons. Again you are in battle with mercs who will kill you for isk, they know you're a clone, what does a conceal knife have to do with that. Knife in public, Sword on field. Sticking with my augment. Godin Thekiller wrote: A ***** sword has none of the above. Which sword type? 1: Shields made to be able to fit reasonably within a shield would be weaker than the shielding within a Scout suit, same for Armor. You can't just simply say "Oh, it'll be better because reasons". That makes zero sense. Also, your hi tech shield, my hi tech rifle will shoot straight through it. 2: I don't give a about your playstyle, a firearm has consistantly been proven to be VASTLY better than a bladed weapon. This has been proven time and time again, over actual history, and in SEVERAL video games. 3: Riot shield and a sword and shield is two separate things. Don't even try and act as if they are the same thing. 4: You think a melee weapon is more suitable than a rifle. Okay, find a time machine, ask all those slain tribal warriors in Latin/South America and the Sub-Saharan Africa regions and ask them how much better their swords was vs. dem boom sticks. To clarify Riot Shields are believable, to some very small degree, as weapons but they themselves are only used to protect police from thrown objects, bludgeoning attacks, and maybe ricochets. They will not OHKO dropsuits or even inflict much more damage than a punch if used to attack and should ideally always be used with a Secondary Fire Arm. Someone trying to actally use a full on riot shield (not the mobile ones, I'm talking mil spec combat shields) are eiteher stong as ** or just dumb Top lel
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18825	Posted - 2015.05.06 23:47:00 - [92] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Someone trying to actally use a full on riot shield (not the mobile ones, I'm talking mil spec combat shields) are eiteher stong as **** or just dumb Well I mean..... spine supporting powered exoskeletons with biologically enhanced bones, muscles, and nanite infused blood flows chock full of performance enhancing drugs of such a quantity it doesn't matter if we overdose........ we are kinda stronk. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3168	Posted - 2015.05.07 00:45:00 - [93] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Someone trying to actally use a full on riot shield (not the mobile ones, I'm talking mil spec combat shields) are eiteher stong as **** or just dumb Well I mean..... spine supporting powered exoskeletons with biologically enhanced bones, muscles, and nanite infused blood flows chock full of performance enhancing drugs of such a quantity it doesn't matter if we overdose........ we are kinda stronk. Not that strong,Otherwise we would be walking around in HAV armor. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3168	Posted - 2015.05.07 01:08:00 - [94] - Quote It's funny how scrubs try to make themselves look like badasses, when they are simply not. Oh, and you're damn right I'm trolling, there's no point in trying to talk logic to you Top lel
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1788	Posted - 2015.05.07 01:16:00 - [95] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Someone trying to actally use a full on riot shield (not the mobile ones, I'm talking mil spec combat shields) are eiteher stong as **** or just dumb Well I mean..... spine supporting powered exoskeletons with biologically enhanced bones, muscles, and nanite infused blood flows chock full of performance enhancing drugs of such a quantity it doesn't matter if we overdose........ we are kinda stronk. Not that strong,Otherwise we would be walking around in HAV armor. Oswald Rehnquist, You make a fair and convincing augment that can make sense in the views of many, for your well thought opinion infact sounds plausible for Dust is hard core. Godin Thekiller, You idiot, by insulting me you only made yourself appear foolish and me to stick with my Gut. True also cancelled you by stating the fact we are super soldiers and strenght with genetic and drug inducing makes a monster, energy shied- HA! Pun intended There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1788	Posted - 2015.05.07 01:24:00 - [96] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: It's funny how scrubs try to make themselves look like badasses, when they are simply not. Oh, and you're damn right I'm trolling, there's no point in trying to talk logic to you The same for you, I still favor swords to knife/dagger However facts I already know about physics with motion leans with the dagger. I would I have stop bugging ya if you stop with insults. You didn't which means you are imprudent, intransigent, and arrogant. No farther digging. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.


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