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Godin Thekiller
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True Adamance wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords.
Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict. Why not also simply make knife swipes our standard melee attack like I've heard they used to be?
They made them into actual weapons because people wanted to always have them out. Also, it used to be knife, not knives, as you only swiped with one.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:08:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both.
Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation.
I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:13:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong.
Even though I did, I have to use proper grammar to talk **** now?
You're still either a blubbering idiot, or simply can't read.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:19:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong.
I find it quite to the contrary. I see no point in constructing a grammatically sound sentence structure for someone whom you have no respect.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:20:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong. Even though I did, I have to use proper grammar to talk **** now? You're still either a blubbering idiot, or simply can't read.
It is just ironic to speak like someone who can't grasp language while calling someone else dumb.
It says all more about you than the person you are insulting.
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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:24:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both. Actually, if you are going to attempt to insult someone, particularly on intelligence, you should use proper grammar and punctuation. I would be happy to hear what I misread or didn't quite grasp however if you are insistent I am the one getting something wrong. Even though I did, I have to use proper grammar to talk **** now? You're still either a blubbering idiot, or simply can't read.
You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect... |
Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:37:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:
You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect...
No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:39:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
It is just ironic to speak like someone who can't grasp language while calling someone else dumb.
It says more about you than the person you are insulting.
Explain yourself, as so far, your statement makes zero sense.
Also, mission accomplished.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:43:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
It is just ironic to speak like someone who can't grasp language while calling someone else dumb.
It says more about you than the person you are insulting.
Explain yourself, as so far, your statement makes zero sense. Also, mission accomplished.
Indeed.
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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.05.05 02:43:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:korrah silain wrote:
You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect...
No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat.
you are all being children are we going to address each others arguments on their merits or just continue with some variation of "I'm not dumb you are!" All night? |
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 03:06:00 -
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Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill me
a sword in a conflict of GUNS AND ******* TANKS doesn't make sense you nitwit.[/quote]
You're the nitwit, how the heck is a ******* knife better and has more logic destroying a tank than a Sword or something as else.
A Nova sword or a condensed blazing sword sounds and looks more like it makes sense, you augment is flaw and ridiculous.
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 03:09:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:korrah silain wrote:
You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect...
No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat. you are all being children are we going to address each others arguments on their merits or just continue with some variation of "I'm not dumb you are!" All night?
We will most likely continue
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2015.05.05 03:39:00 -
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It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas.
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 04:54:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas.
Don't be a hater.
And what pvp do we have?
We kill players.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.05 04:57:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pvp do we have? We kill players.
Just accept it dude some people don't like arcade-y sword swinging bullshit because it is "NOT" cool out of context in what should be a tactical shooter. As usually I can't argue with how Pokey does things.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 05:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pvp do we have? We kill players. Just accept it dude some people don't like arcade-y sword swinging bullshit because it is "NOT" cool out of context in what should be a tactical shooter. As usually I can't argue with how Pokey does things.
I do accept some people dislike it because of the out of context, but is this game really tactical? Merc I meet don't act like it, its more...
Better gear kills than Skill doing kills.
6 proto beats genius for he dies of ridiculous damage.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2015.05.05 05:53:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pve do we have? We kill players.
I have no idea what any of that has to do with what I said.
We don't have PvE therefor we should have katanas? lol
Like seriously, just because you want cartoony bouncing around with swords, does not mean that it's acceptable in a game that is supposed to be a heavy gritty shooter. Doesn't make me a hater, just makes me not want another Destiny/Warframe/Super Mario FPS
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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.05.05 06:11:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pve do we have? We kill players. I have no idea what any of that has to do with what I said. We don't have PvE therefor we should have katanas? lol Like seriously, just because you want cartoony bouncing around with swords, does not mean that it's acceptable in a game that is supposed to be a heavy gritty shooter. Doesn't make me a hater, just makes me not want another Destiny/Warframe/Super Mario FPS
Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons?
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2015.05.05 06:22:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:
Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons?
The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such.
Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny ****. It's Warframe ****. Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play.
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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.05.05 06:44:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:
Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons?
The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such. Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny ****. It's Warframe ****. Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play. To me, that stuff seems as out of place as a dragon or a chainsaw in Dust.
So your argument is: "doesn't feel right to me"? OK I guess that's fair, but its also presuming that it will change the meta into that, and I disagree that it will. There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. |
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2015.05.05 08:13:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety.
Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it.
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.05.05 10:55:00 -
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Minjas have the bonus but knives belong to Caldari.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
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Posted - 2015.05.05 11:23:00 -
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If I want to play a sword game, I play Bushido Blade.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.05.05 15:53:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"?
Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy?
No?
Huh.
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 16:56:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:If I want to play a sword game, I play Bushido Blade.
I think you already said that
Pokey Dravon wrote:Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it.
I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"?
That is ridiculous, so what your saying is...
You just don't get it and is without a reason other than "It feels out of place".
Give it 2 months after is implemented and nothing will have chang, much, sense we get cooler weapons than guns.
Your feeling towards this is purely bias and just because its future base doesn't mean close-combat weapons are impractical to a gun.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2015.05.05 18:36:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy? No? Huh.
And a sword offers a significant difference in gameplay compared to a knife? More damage, slower, and longer range? How is that anything more than a variant of the knife?
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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.05.05 19:49:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy? No? Huh. And a sword offers a significant difference in gameplay compared to a knife? More damage, slower, and longer range? How is that anything more than a variant of the knife? Explain to me exactly how this will alter gameplay significantly. Convince me that further breaking the atmosphere and gameplay that brought me to Dust, is worth it.
Sigh:
*repost from ultimate melee board discussion*
Gallente: tower shield/ one handed sword fits with their combat doctrine of preserving combatants life and emphasis on cqc
Caldari: said trifdent because its historically paired with nets, though any pole arm would do. I propose a net/ polearm for 2 reasons; it satisfies the requests on the boards I've seen for a stasis webifier equivalent, and it fits caldari doctrine(in as much as a melee weapon can) by immobilizing the enemy, thus stopping them from closing ranks with(theoretical) gunline allies, and can be used to strand someone out of covers...a sort of advance defense. Also spears have the longest reach of melee weapons traditionally used in warfare.
Minmitar whip: because again it can be used as a snare which harkens to their Savannah hunter heritage, and is more tactically versatile if we give it a drag effect.
Amaran great sword: with av capabilitys really brings home the idea of superiority when you can kick a vehicle...
There this introduces: a new av option, and three new tactics to work into the battlefield.
They are functionally different from knives and hypothetically could help balance commandos if we give them a speed boost now that I think of it... |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.05 20:46:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:There's no real reason not to try it.also if you expand weapon types with other mechanics it will add a lot of variety. Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it. I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? Once the new content doesn't add any gameplay. For example adding a new gun that shoots boxing gloves and waffles is just adding a new gun of which we have plenty. Is it going to have some special function or mechanic? Does it add counterplay against any strategy's out there? Does it open up new tactical options? Play styles? Is it anything other than a massive aggressive hyperboly used a a slippery sloe fallacy? No? Huh. And a sword offers a significant difference in gameplay compared to a knife? More damage, slower, and longer range? How is that anything more than a variant of the knife? Explain to me exactly how this will alter gameplay significantly. Convince me that further breaking the atmosphere and gameplay that brought me to Dust, is worth it. Sigh: *repost from ultimate melee board discussion* Gallente: tower shield/ one handed sword fits with their combat doctrine of preserving combatants life and emphasis on cqc Caldari: said trifdent because its historically paired with nets, though any pole arm would do. I propose a net/ polearm for 2 reasons; it satisfies the requests on the boards I've seen for a stasis webifier equivalent, and it fits caldari doctrine(in as much as a melee weapon can) by immobilizing the enemy, thus stopping them from closing ranks with(theoretical) gunline allies, and can be used to strand someone out of covers...a sort of advance defense. Also spears have the longest reach of melee weapons traditionally used in warfare. Minmitar whip: because again it can be used as a snare which harkens to their Savannah hunter heritage, and is more tactically versatile if we give it a drag effect. Amaran great sword: with av capabilitys really brings home the idea of superiority when you can kick a vehicle... There this introduces: a new av option, and three new tactics to work into the battlefield. They are functionally different from knives and hypothetically could help balance commandos if we give them a speed boost now that I think of it...
Yelling "counterplay" and "tactics" from the roof tops is fine but what does that mean? Why should the tone of this game that was gritty and dark suddenly shift to acade-y to accommodate these unbelievable weapons that continue to not make sense in a New Eden setting?
EDIT: Having read that response....... I genuinely cannot believe it. You consider a solo player rushing a gunline tactical and more over would suggest players attempt to do this on a Commando frame?
I uh...... I'm genuinely stumped.
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 22:20:00 -
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Players like fun and seriousness
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
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Talon Paetznick II
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Posted - 2015.05.05 22:23:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote:
Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons?
The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such. Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny ****. It's Warframe ****. Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play. To me, that stuff seems as out of place as a dragon or a chainsaw in Dust.
but I want to ride into battle on a giant mechanical dragon.
all proper murder is premeditated, that's what makes new Eden fun
acidental mansluaghter charges in FW however are not
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