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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:58:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword.
3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat.
You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull.
Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might.
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:26:00 -
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I know One Eyed King supports the extra Melee weapons and it like he says, Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. All those who oppose just hate getting killed by knives and will rage more to the others close-quarter weapons. There is no real reason to go against this and high technical melee weapons are a must any who says its impossible cannot think correctly.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:54:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: Skill melee users are definitively better killers than coward gun users.Any whom that says its impossible cannot think correctly. I think is more or less the most asinine post containing utterly borked logic I think I've yet come across on these forums....and I regularly do forum battle with Spkr4thedead and Sir Dukey....... *Slow Clap*, Oh ha he ha ha, very amusing you are Amadance
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:12:00 -
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shadow tongue wrote:At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. I can work with that.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:29:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing. Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords. Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict. Also, what are you implying about it being a sidearm. There are types so it can go primary or sidearm but mostly Primary because its not a ******* KNIFE!!!
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Posted - 2015.05.05 03:06:00 -
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[/quote] Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill me a sword in a conflict of GUNS AND ******* TANKS doesn't make sense you nitwit.[/quote] You're the nitwit, how the heck is a ******* knife better and has more logic destroying a tank than a Sword or something as else. A Nova sword or a condensed blazing sword sounds and looks more like it makes sense, you augment is flaw and ridiculous.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 03:09:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:korrah silain wrote:
You probably meant blithering idiot, not blubbering which would be OK if you weren't trying to get on a high horse about grammar and intellect...
No, I meant blubbering. As in you're as dumb as my child's fat. you are all being children are we going to address each others arguments on their merits or just continue with some variation of "I'm not dumb you are!" All night? We will most likely continue
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Posted - 2015.05.05 04:54:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pvp do we have? We kill players.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 05:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's not really a tactical shooter when nearly anyone can carry around 6+ nanohives worth of more ammo than they will ever need under normal circumstances.
We have enough BS cartoon **** with myofibs, the last thing we need is for the game to turn into freaking Warframe with people bouncing all over the place with katanas. Don't be a hater. And what pvp do we have? We kill players. Just accept it dude some people don't like arcade-y sword swinging bullshit because it is "NOT" cool out of context in what should be a tactical shooter. As usually I can't argue with how Pokey does things. I do accept some people dislike it because of the out of context, but is this game really tactical? Merc I meet don't act like it, its more... Better gear kills than Skill doing kills. 6 proto beats genius for he dies of ridiculous damage.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 16:56:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:If I want to play a sword game, I play Bushido Blade. I think you already said that
Pokey Dravon wrote:Can I get a gun that shoots out boxing gloves and waffles too? No real reason not to try it.
I mean at what point in your mind does it change from "This is fine for Dust" to "That's unacceptable"? That is ridiculous, so what your saying is... You just don't get it and is without a reason other than "It feels out of place". Give it 2 months after is implemented and nothing will have chang, much, sense we get cooler weapons than guns. Your feeling towards this is purely bias and just because its future base doesn't mean close-combat weapons are impractical to a gun.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 22:20:00 -
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Players like fun and seriousness
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Posted - 2015.05.05 22:35:00 -
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Talon Paetznick II wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:korrah silain wrote: Where exactly does it say it was "supposed" to be anything, and why can't we be heavy and gritty with melee weapons?
The New Eden universe is traditionally heavy and gritty. Dust takes place in the New Eden Universe. I expect it to it feel as such. Jumping over buildings and swinging around katanas, is not heavy and gritty. It's Destiny ****. It's Warframe ****. Just because something is cool, doesn't mean it has a place in every video game you play. To me, that stuff seems as out of place as a dragon or a chainsaw in Dust. but I want to ride into battle on a giant mechanical dragon. Mech Dragons are machine base, THEY SHOULD BE ADDED. And heat swords too. And wormholes
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Posted - 2015.05.06 00:44:00 -
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Quote:=Pokey DravonGreatsword Ah yes, so kinda like....Nova Knives, which already do some AV damage. Thing is not one does it because you can't keep up with a tank, or a dropship, or an LAV. Or better yet you DO stab a stationary LAV and it blows up and kills you in the process. But actually you should test this repeatedly. Your running around chasing HAVs with a knife will amuse everyone. Get some Yakkety Sax going. It'll be great. You Blow up vehicles when you weaken them,say 20-110 than grenade, you don't continuously slash and kill yourself. Swords I listed have different types on my thread have different range, damage, swings, and attack speed. Did you even read my post, say really read it.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 00:58:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Oh read it. I just don't really see why we need to introduce entirely new weapon types for functions that can be easily obtained with existing weapons or variants of.
Its pointless to even talk about it. If we're not getting new HAV models or proper racial variants of AV weapons, then adding a slew of silly melee weapons is about as bottom of the priority list as you can get. Why use one tank than than the other. Why add the combat and rail rifle Why add new tanks why add new game modes why are the Devs adding Warp Gates.
So the Player doesn't get bored of the current stuff. Even if I have to pay to use them, I would and will because I want to. I don't spent much money on this game because its all the same. What I'm saying is you add a gun, gives us more melee.
Agaim why add those two guns and tank, because people wanted them even when they weren't necessary. Why not Swords,Lances, and a Hammer that sends out Shockwaves when it hits your shield. Why...
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Posted - 2015.05.06 01:03:00 -
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What would make Dust much more unique and different to other First-person shooters would be to have things from previous game and place them here.
Make Dust a Futuristic First-person shooters with multiple melee weapons. What so wrong about that.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 01:14:00 -
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Quote:=True Adamance
The Tanks and core racial rifles have always been necessary. I believe you will see case and point when Rattati releases the Amarr reskinned tanks. Either they will not have enough fitting capacity to make their 2/5 lay out worth it, or will have so much we can abuse it to high heaven.
I know who(Meaning more, whom meaning 1) I'm abusing it on.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 01:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Quote:=True Adamance
The Tanks and core racial rifles have always been necessary. I believe you will see case and point when Rattati releases the Amarr reskinned tanks. Either they will not have enough fitting capacity to make their 2/5 lay out worth it, or will have so much we can abuse it to high heaven. I know who(Meaning more, whom meaning 1) I'm abusing it on. Tanks as they exist now will not be able to destroy one another at worst unless they are caught during cool down and at best they will barely be different to the Gal HAV so go ahead and try. I would use under certain situations, like the guys I'm killing
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Posted - 2015.05.06 03:27:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I remember this conversation back from yesteryear
I remember advocating for a heavy melee weapon as well, funny how things come around full circle. Anyways, here is my idea, don't judge it until you give it some thought.
Nova Boulder, with successful lab demonstrations on Endor's moon, Allotek scientists have developed a new melee weapon by harnessing the quantum crystallization found within the crust to increase the viscosity of luminous waves to a stable solid. Friend Foe Identification allows safe handling for wielders who can use these as high intensity energy shields that also have the ability to roll over enemy infantry causing massive hemorrhaging. A secondary mode can also be activated by having wielders stand atop high places to push these down on unsuspecting foes.
MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP!!
To help further the trend of soft sci fi, I also advocate for multi colored alien space chicks with "open minds", but animal mounts or pscionics work as well. Nice
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Posted - 2015.05.06 05:59:00 -
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Quote:=Korrah silain Seriously though as someone who successfully uses nk I can vouch melee is viable and more options will open up new approaches to combat. As am I, I concur with the Caldarian Lifeform. I find melee much more groundbreaking than another gun(Unless shockwave rifle and Darkmater or blackhole gun) Its Fun, to bring a knife to a gunfight and even better winning in it. I still find it awesome to die meleeing as I become peeve when dying while using a gun.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 10:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:I just have one good question then to end this: Would you rather use a sword and shield over a rifle in actual real world combat.? High tech Sword and a shield is good so you don't get hit in the face because your weak force field couldn't stand. My playstyle consist of using the Nk more than my Breach Pistol Again... High tech melee and physical shields not seeing that being bad.
Yes I would.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 20:05:00 -
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Yes, if anything this is a 2yr time before I see this. But with Rattati, I would say 9- 14 months.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:16:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:True Adamance wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Someone trying to actally use a full on riot shield (not the mobile ones, I'm talking mil spec combat shields) are eiteher stong as **** or just dumb Well I mean..... spine supporting powered exoskeletons with biologically enhanced bones, muscles, and nanite infused blood flows chock full of performance enhancing drugs of such a quantity it doesn't matter if we overdose........ we are kinda stronk. Not that strong,Otherwise we would be walking around in HAV armor. Oswald Rehnquist, You make a fair and convincing augment that can make sense in the views of many, for your well thought opinion infact sounds plausible for Dust is hard core.
Godin Thekiller, You idiot, by insulting me you only made yourself appear foolish and me to stick with my Gut.
True also cancelled you by stating the fact we are super soldiers and strenght with genetic and drug inducing makes a monster, energy shied- HA!
Pun intended
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:24:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:It's funny how scrubs try to make themselves look like badasses, when they are simply not. Oh, and you're damn right I'm trolling, there's no point in trying to talk logic to you The same for you, I still favor swords to knife/dagger However facts I already know about physics with motion leans with the dagger. I would I have stop bugging ya if you stop with insults. You didn't which means you are imprudent, intransigent, and arrogant. No farther digging.
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