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Talon Paetznick II
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Posted - 2015.05.04 12:20:00 -
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The min scouts have a bonus towards the Nk and I saw the melee weapons thread this , all of the races have some sort of rifle and at least one specialty type weapon. A melee weapon might not be a stretch especially since this is a tactical shooter and melee weapons do not need ammo. I do realize nova
knives are a specialty weapon. However variety isint bad you can also play to the lore and RP aspects of the game
So far these are the ideas I have seen
Ammar: Whip , lance , claymore type sword, mace
Calidari: Sword, katana,
Galente: Short sword , and they have lots of CQC don't know if they really need melee
Minmitar: Club , knives of there own, axe
all proper murder is premeditated, that's what makes new Eden fun
acidental mansluaghter charges in FW however are not
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:41:00 -
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1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword.
3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it).
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:58:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword.
3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it).
You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat.
You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons.
I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it.
Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull.
Melee FOR LIFE!!!
I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:25:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword.
3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat. You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull. Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might.
NK's are valid sidearms, used all the time in many armies of today, and will probably be used in armies of tomorrow, not only due to their utility, but due to being quiet, which NK's generally match. They are, however, idiotic primaries. You're pushing for them to essentially make primary NK's. That's silly. But I'm dumb. kk
a gun has much less limits than a sword does. can you swing a sword at something 50m away?
Adding **** is fine, skilled for **** at that. Unnecessary and just plain silly **** is not. For the lulz isn't a valid reason to add things when there's tons of other actually decent things that actually needs to be put into the game.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword.
3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat. You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull. Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might. NK's are valid sidearms, used all the time in many armies of today, and will probably be used in armies of tomorrow, not only due to their utility, but due to being quiet, which NK's generally match. They are, however, idiotic primaries. You're pushing for them to essentially make primary NK's. That's silly. But I'm dumb. kk a gun has much less limits than a sword does. can you swing a sword at something 50m away? Adding **** is fine, skilled for **** at that. Unnecessary and just plain silly **** is not. For the lulz isn't a valid reason to add things when there's tons of other actually decent things that actually needs to be put into the game.
Meh if I can get a Riot Shield or a Submission/Shock Maul (aka super powered night stick) no issue to be had. Police and Military Personnel use these every now and then.
However.....
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords.
Skilled melee users play better than gun-users
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:45:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords.
Skilled melee users play better than gun-users
No they aren't. I'll admit that small number of applications in the melee range have merit like racial knives or riot shields but our characters exist in a universe with such inordinately powerful ranged technologies that running around with a sword over one shoulder is a ******* liability no practical corporate entity.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:49:00 -
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Would any of these things be different or unique enough to warrant their own models and the work that goes into them? Would they add any new and exciting gameplay? all signs point to no, this is pointless redundancy for the sake of redundancy.
We have a lot of gun varieties because this is a shooter. We do not have a lot of melee weapon varieties because this isn't dungeons and dragons.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:08:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Would any of these things be different or unique enough to warrant their own models and the work that goes into them? Would they add any new and exciting gameplay? all signs point to no, this is pointless redundancy for the sake of redundancy.
We have a lot of gun varieties because this is a shooter. We do not have a lot of melee weapon varieties because this isn't dungeons and dragons.
Well why couldn't they? Gallente use a one handed weapon (shorts sword/maul) and a shield which can be used as mobile cover (using aim button) that can be depleated
We have nks which can be charged but have short range
A two handed claymore or Axe for whoever which swings slow but can take out heavies in one shot potentially.
A whip which can be used at longer range for less damage and maybe be used to drag an opponent. Short distance out of cover or what have you.
I'm not saying it should be changed because yes there's a lot that could be fixed, however I'm in favor of it cause I hate but stroking and pistol whipping, think it would add variety, and also people have been looking for more weapons, so maybe melee? Since we are discussing it. Also since melee functions from stamina we can have performance differences there, and it creates more interplay for cardiac regulators.
Edit: oh **** just realized people have been asking for the web things from eve that slow ships, this could be a fair way of implementation: myrmydons using nova tridents and webs. |
Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:09:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword.
3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it).
Because Cal Scout is a Samurai and a Katana goes perfectly with it.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:16:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives.
Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage.
Winning.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Billy Jr
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.05.04 23:57:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning.
That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun." |
One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:11:00 -
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Billy Jr wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun."
So you consider a single, complex sentence long winded?
You must be a heck of a conversationalist.
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Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Billy Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:15:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Billy Jr wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun." So you consider a single, complex sentence long winded? You must be a heck of a conversationalist.
Not really, no. I just had nothing better to contribute to what you said. |
One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:16:00 -
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Billy Jr wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Billy Jr wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning. That's a very long-winded way of saying "It's more fun." So you consider a single, complex sentence long winded? You must be a heck of a conversationalist. Not really, no. I just had nothing better to contribute to what you said.
Fair enough. 
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:26:00 -
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I know One Eyed King supports the extra Melee weapons and it like he says, Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage.
All those who oppose just hate getting killed by knives and will rage more to the others close-quarter weapons.
There is no real reason to go against this and high technical melee weapons are a must any who says its impossible cannot think correctly.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:46:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote: Skill melee users are definitively better killers than coward gun users.Any whom that says its impossible cannot think correctly.
I think is more or less the most asinine post containing utterly borked logic I think I've yet come across on these forums....and I regularly do forum battle with Spkr4thedead and Sir Dukey.......
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:54:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: Skill melee users are definitively better killers than coward gun users.Any whom that says its impossible cannot think correctly. I think is more or less the most asinine post containing utterly borked logic I think I've yet come across on these forums....and I regularly do forum battle with Spkr4thedead and Sir Dukey.......
*Slow Clap*, Oh ha he ha ha, very amusing you are Amadance
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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shadow tongue
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:55:00 -
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At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. |
Billy Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:58:00 -
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shadow tongue wrote:At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that.
Yeah. Sure. That's about as realistic as me appearing out of your monitor in a pink bikini and a box of your favorite chocolates. |
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korrah silain
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Billy Jr wrote:shadow tongue wrote:At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. Yeah. Sure. That's about as realistic as me appearing out of your monitor in a pink bikini and a box of your favorite chocolates.
Hey billy that was an interesting bikini you had on last night, good chocolate too. Seriously if you utilized whatever tech you used to pop out of my moniter for shipping you could become a billionaire...
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:12:00 -
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shadow tongue wrote:At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that.
I can work with that.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
2: sword and katana are functionally the exact same thing. Hell, sword is just a type of weapon, you could say that a katana is in fact a sword.
3: Not every race would design their melee weapons off of nova tech (well, Gallente might, but I doubt they would specifically use it). You're a dumb fool, you should never bring a gun to a knife fight with the dude who can get near you in a second thanks to Kin cat. You should post on the Ultimate Melee Weapon Discussion thread, Talon Paetznick II, more support is needed in getting more melee weapons. I mean come on mate, a gun has limits and it would be something people could spend boosters on to skill and max it. Don't be a melee hater, don't be a skill hater. Stick with your petty gun and I will stick this in your skull. Melee FOR LIFE!!! I Disprove Against Guns, The Sword is True Might. NK's are valid sidearms, used all the time in many armies of today, and will probably be used in armies of tomorrow, not only due to their utility, but due to being quiet, which NK's generally match. They are, however, idiotic primaries. You're pushing for them to essentially make primary NK's. That's silly. But I'm dumb. kk a gun has much less limits than a sword does. can you swing a sword at something 50m away? Adding **** is fine, skilled for **** at that. Unnecessary and just plain silly **** is not. For the lulz isn't a valid reason to add things when there's tons of other actually decent things that actually needs to be put into the game. Meh if I can get a Riot Shield or a Submission/Shock Maul (aka super powered night stick) no issue to be had. Police and Military Personnel use these every now and then. However.....
a riot shield or something deploable could easily be a equipment, and the submission stick could be a sidearm.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:19:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords.
Skilled melee users play better than gun-users
I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have.
If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using).
And that's a stupid statement to make.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:22:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Why the hell would someone bring a sword to a gunfight?
The same reason that we bring knives. Because it is more fun than guns, is by and large more silent, and you know when you stab someone you either earn their respect, or make them rage. Winning.
wow. Some people either can't read, or is just dumb. or both.
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Godin Thekiller
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:True Adamance wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: Skill melee users are definitively better killers than coward gun users.Any whom that says its impossible cannot think correctly. I think is more or less the most asinine post containing utterly borked logic I think I've yet come across on these forums....and I regularly do forum battle with Spkr4thedead and Sir Dukey....... *Slow Clap*, Oh ha he ha ha, very amusing you are Amadance
It's a fair statement. IT's pretty ******* stupid logic.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:24:00 -
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Billy Jr wrote:shadow tongue wrote:At this rate I'm surprised nobody suggested a gunblade type of deal...honestly I think we could use more melee weapons for more diversity. But not right now, CCP needs to fix what's broken first simple as that. Yeah. Sure. That's about as realistic as me appearing out of your monitor in a pink bikini and a box of your favorite chocolates.
as a sexy woman on top of that? Because if that happened on m bday, my life would be just complete
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BLOOD Ruler
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:29:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords.
Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make.
Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict.
Also, what are you implying about it being a sidearm. There are types so it can go primary or sidearm but mostly Primary because its not a ******* KNIFE!!!
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:33:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords.
Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict.
Why not also simply make knife swipes our standard melee attack like I've heard they used to be?
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Godin Thekiller
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Godin Thekiller, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Swords are better than knives and I'm talking about adding more melee weapons, not just swords.
Skilled melee users play better than gun-users I don't have faith in anything, faith is a silly thing to have. If said sword was a sidearm, it would make sense. But a sword as a sidearm just doesn't make sense. Also, swords aren't necessarily better than knives because they are bigger (the logic you're most likely using). And that's a stupid statement to make. Why would you conceal a sword if you're going on the battle field to kill mercs for money, knives in public but swords in conflict. Also, what are you implying about it being a sidearm. There are types so it can go primary or sidearm but mostly Primary because its not a ******* KNIFE!!!
a sword in a conflict of GUNS AND ******* TANKS doesn't make sense you nitwit.
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