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Panthrax Oblivion
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Posted - 2015.05.04 03:42:00 -
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Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one.
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MythTanker
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Posted - 2015.05.04 03:47:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one.
Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.05.04 03:47:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:After spending the week with PC corporation representatives (The PC Think Tank), the issue of ringers has come up quite often. The consensus seems to be that ringers should exist, but not be risk free and as prevalant as now, particularly at the expense of homegrown talent.
More to follow later.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2716923#post2716923
Personally I do not think there is a real fix aside from locking entry to PC to only alliance members who have been in the alliance for at least 3 days.
As long as ringers are allowed to enter PC they will be used to farm PC. It is going to be even worse once the new update comes out and passive rewards for districts return. |
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:00:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty.
Yep, this. Sad how the combination of console crowd and CCP's failure on the EVE connection just make for so much fail.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:14:00 -
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I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period.
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Panthrax Oblivion
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:15:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty.
What's the point of having Corp vs Corp if half the people don't even belong to it. It might as well be group A vs group B. The only circumstance I would find this acceptable is if the Corp has a shortage of mercs at the time of the PC
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Panthrax Oblivion
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:16:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period.
That sounds like a decent idea
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:16:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty. What's the point of having Corp vs Corp if half the people don't even belong to it. It might as well be group A vs group B. The only circumstance I would find this acceptable is if the Corp has a shortage of mercs at the time of the PC
I'm currently in-favour of making it Alliance-only.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:19:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one.
Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers.
I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps.
So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me.
On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players.
I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:20:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period. That sounds like a decent idea
How is this really any different than them having to join a corp within the alliance to play? Making it alliance only would mean that ringers would have to make their employment history absolutely laughable.
Along with that corporations would be able to see if they happened to keep joining corps that were getting knocked out of PC. |
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Panthrax Oblivion
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:27:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers. I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps. So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me. On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players. I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC.
That's why I would be ok with ringers only on the occasion that for some reason you can't field a full squad. That's happened to my Corp once. I would love to see more corps involved in PC. there's so many corps out there but when I go into the PC on my neocom, I don't see that many. With multiple corps owning anywhere from 5-20 districts. That's insane
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:45:00 -
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If anyone can field a full corp team and does not currently have a district feel free to attack any of my districts, just show up with a full corp team and it is yours to have.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:47:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:After spending the week with PC corporation representatives (The PC Think Tank), the issue of ringers has come up quite often. The consensus seems to be that ringers should exist, but not be risk free and as prevalant as now, particularly at the expense of homegrown talent.
More to follow later. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2716923#post2716923Personally I do not think there is a real fix aside from locking entry to PC to only alliance members who have been in the alliance for at least 3 days. As long as ringers are allowed to enter PC they will be used to farm PC. It is going to be even worse once the new update comes out and passive rewards for districts return.
that thread is riddled with hypocrisy. the ceo who is complaining about ringers uses ringers becuase he can't no field a full 16.
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:48:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:After spending the week with PC corporation representatives (The PC Think Tank), the issue of ringers has come up quite often. The consensus seems to be that ringers should exist, but not be risk free and as prevalant as now, particularly at the expense of homegrown talent.
More to follow later. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2716923#post2716923Personally I do not think there is a real fix aside from locking entry to PC to only alliance members who have been in the alliance for at least 3 days. As long as ringers are allowed to enter PC they will be used to farm PC. It is going to be even worse once the new update comes out and passive rewards for districts return.
is PC going back to normal completely? Will you get 3 mil isk again for winning? |
Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:50:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period.
And in the process, removing free agency.
Yes, that's a really stupid idea and everyone in EVE would be rolling their eyes at it.
Game mechanics aren't supposed to limit who you can fight for. Your own reputation exists for that. That's kind of the entire premise of New Eden and something a few key people seem to have forgotten along the way. In EVE I could offer my corporations services for a war and take the money. I could then sit back and do nothing, or even backstab the one who just paid me. Those are good wholesome mechanics for a not-so-good and wholesome universe.
But in Dust, we want it so you're locked into an agreement have HAVE to honor it? No.
Ringing can cost additional CP, that's fine. But contractual lockouts are stupid.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:53:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers. I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps. So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me. On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players. I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC. That's why I would be ok with ringers only on the occasion that for some reason you can't field a full squad. That's happened to my Corp once. I would love to see more corps involved in PC. there's so many corps out there but when I go into the PC on my neocom, I don't see that many. With multiple corps owning anywhere from 5-20 districts. That's insane
Lag and modded controller's keep alot of players out of PC, and playing this game in general. They go hand in hand, and guys would just rather not deal with nerds who can't take an L, just avoid playing PC.
Alot of guys (who use them) hate for me to say it, but it gives them a clear cut advantage in the game, because while your just praying for the match, and the lag, to end. They're having a field day kicking the handicap kids that can't defend themselves lol!
I'm sure they'll all come running saying that the modded pads aren't the problem, but CCP Rattati and co. have run themselves ragged fixing everything they come across. The game still suffers from unexplained lag.
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:56:00 -
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only people in NPC corps and alliance can ring. lmao. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 05:00:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers. I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps. So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me. On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players. I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC. That's why I would be ok with ringers only on the occasion that for some reason you can't field a full squad. That's happened to my Corp once. I would love to see more corps involved in PC. there's so many corps out there but when I go into the PC on my neocom, I don't see that many. With multiple corps owning anywhere from 5-20 districts. That's insane Lag and modded controller's keep alot of players out of PC, and playing this game in general. They go hand in hand, and guys would just rather not deal with nerds who can't take an L, just avoid playing PC. Alot of guys (who use them) hate for me to say it, but it gives them a clear cut advantage in the game, because while your just praying for the match, and the lag, to end. They're having a field day kicking the handicap kids that can't defend themselves lol! I'm sure they'll all come running saying that the modded pads aren't the problem, but CCP Rattati and co. have run themselves ragged fixing everything they come across. The game still suffers from unexplained lag. Just saying
it is not modded controllers. i have been on both sides of the wars in molden heath winning and losing, and it is never even slightly the reason.
Lag yes, lag is large factor.
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Hector Carson
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Posted - 2015.05.04 05:06:00 -
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I am an EVE pilot, I believe that EVE pilots should get more involved in PC like allowing us to drop Installations such as CRU, Turret Installations, Supply Depots, and have specialized drones that can swoop down to the planet surface and perform surgical strikes.
By doing this EVE pilots will have a bigger impact in Planetary Conquest making them more desirable Dust side.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 05:10:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps.
So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me.
What easy isk days? where do you get easy isk from while corp hopping in PC corps, do you know something i don't know because I and everyone i know been losing millions in PC.
Things did change, you use to be able to go isk positive in PC matches and then pay out systems changed. Majority of the corps currently in PC are dying or don't want to PC anymore.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.05.04 05:31:00 -
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Game based on mercenaries, people go on to complain about mercenaries not having loyalty to one side..pay me I'll fight for you, that's all I care about..the isk
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.05.04 06:02:00 -
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hold that wrote:deezy dabest wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:After spending the week with PC corporation representatives (The PC Think Tank), the issue of ringers has come up quite often. The consensus seems to be that ringers should exist, but not be risk free and as prevalant as now, particularly at the expense of homegrown talent.
More to follow later. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2716923#post2716923Personally I do not think there is a real fix aside from locking entry to PC to only alliance members who have been in the alliance for at least 3 days. As long as ringers are allowed to enter PC they will be used to farm PC. It is going to be even worse once the new update comes out and passive rewards for districts return. is PC going back to normal completely? Will you get 3 mil isk again for winning?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188510&find=unread
No but a somewhat passive system seems to be on the horizon. My concern is that in this new system newbies will just be farmed for command points while ringers are used to hold the districts.
Newbies will not mind this as they will receive dividends of that payout automatically but it still leaves PC as nothing but a game of who wants to pay more for ringers so that they can hold as many districts as they have newbies to farm to sustain this.
At the end of the day this still leaves PC as an end game that is only played by some while most freak out at having the chance to join one because they are so regularly left out.
@ the people saying a game of mercenaries blah blah blah.
Having to join an alliance to work for that alliance at least then shows up on someones employment history. The real issue here over all is the fact that a huge portion of the players in the game have not and will not actually get to be mercenaries. As long as that remains the scenario most people will only participate at a level of a lobby shooter.
Having an alliance lock does not stop you from being a mercenary it only means that you have to trade based on your actual skill and not the fact that you joined up with some corp that gives the image of being exclusive to good players.
You of all people should support an alliance lock more than anyone as having to be known based on your name and having to actually go through the joining process gives you the opportunity to make even more money than before if you are actually a good player.
Why would you not want to trade based on someone looking at your employment history and seeing that you have worked for top corps instead of trading on the name of a corp that just ends up full of people using that name and screwing people over until you just run off to the next ringer corp?
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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from what i understand you won't be able to farm districts unless you have members. in order to sell clones under the new system you must use command points, you get command points from your corp members completing missions. If you have 1 member in your corp and you own 50 districts you will only be able to farm maybe 1 or half of 1 because that one member can only get so much command points in one day by himself.
So you can use ringers all you want(Doubt that will happen) but it won't mean you can profit off of all your districts unless you actually have a lot of active members in your corp.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.05.04 06:11:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty. What's the point of having Corp vs Corp if half the people don't even belong to it. It might as well be group A vs group B. The only circumstance I would find this acceptable is if the Corp has a shortage of mercs at the time of the PC
Corporations ARE groups.
Think of it like this. Take "Corporation" by a literal meaning. A group of people with similar financial interests.
Naturally, they like to rely on people within the corporation to deal with things. Creates less hassle. However, you often have to contract people outside of the corporation to deal with problems.
Exactly like this. Corp A has a good ground team, but has almost no air power. They can contract out mercs to fight for them for air power.
Maybe they have no power, but big wallets. They can buy whatever they need.
I see no problem here. Then again, I've dealt with the issues of ringers for over a year now. Best way to deal with them? Show them the business side of your rifle and send them back to their MCC.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.05.04 06:16:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:from what i understand you won't be able to farm districts unless you have members. in order to sell clones under the new system you must use command points, you get command points from your corp members completing missions. If you have 1 member in your corp and you own 50 districts you will only be able to farm maybe 1 or half of 1 because that one member can only get so much command points in one day by himself.
So you can use ringers all you want(Doubt that will happen) but it won't mean you can profit off of all your districts unless you actually have a lot of active members in your corp.
It is true that you will need member activity to be able to maintain the district and make money off of it.
The problem is that now you end up with a corp full of newbies that are just being farmed for their missions while they still never once get to see a PC fight. I was under the impression that PC was meant to be an end game for all players and not just a reason to pile on newbies and alt accounts in your corp to feed the machine for the CEO and a few of his ringer buddies that just choose to farm CEOs instead of making an effort to hold their own districts.
The real question here is why ringers are so desperate to be able to hide behind their corp tags and not have their employment history show their actual employment history. |
Panthrax Oblivion
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Posted - 2015.05.04 11:23:00 -
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Anyone else find it funny that only members of fatal absolution are strongly in favor of using ringers in this forum
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Jolly Roger87
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Posted - 2015.05.04 13:12:00 -
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Nah not just one Corp. Some others who agree will just sit back and let the ones who so favor ringers get the pooh flung at them.
Anywho, pushing everyone into alliance to be able to ring is just. ... going to push everyone into alliance lol
Point of fighting then?
pay isk to fight in a laggy game mode and now u want me join their Corp/alliance too? X( |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
864
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Posted - 2015.05.04 14:18:00 -
[28] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps.
So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me.
What easy isk days? where do you get easy isk from while corp hopping in PC corps, do you know something i don't know because I and everyone i know been losing millions in PC. Things did change, you use to be able to go isk positive in PC matches and then pay out systems changed. Majority of the corps currently in PC are dying or don't want to PC anymore.
Payouts are crap now sure, but not too long ago guys were ringing 10-20 PC's a day. Same guys over and over?! No matter what team you fought the same guys showed up?! The monotony of it is stifling. Attack X corp, fight A group of ringers. Defend against X corp, defend against A group of ringers. Attack Y corp, same f*cking group of ringers like you slapped their moms and made her call you daddy lol!
I'll say it, and nothing against the kid, but for a solid month I couldn't fight a PC that didn't have kubo in it lol! Didn't matter who we were fighting?!
Now I don't know much about corp hopping, but I know a bunch of corp hoppers. They only leave because the corp leadership cuts off they're isk intake. A strong 97%, after passive isk, countless PC's, wallets stolen, and all kinds of shady tactics, are still broke because they can't turn the proto off.
I would definitely agree that PC isn't lucrative whatsoever right now, and mercs are fighting them now just to fight them. They've lost sight of their original reasons, and between butthurt and pride, are just going in against all logic and economical math. Yeah its fun sometimes, and I X up if I see my role needed too, but if you wanna get rich in dust simply don't play PC. Fight in the pubs and FW in bpos, and you'll be ridiculously rich in no time.
As far as the modded pads go..... I don't know about you, but when they shoot at me my toon quite literally freezes in place?! The lag instantly becomes as thick as molasses. It's like I'm guarding home, and I get told to go to the next nearest point, not 150 meters away, and I walk into a wall all lag?! I instantly know there's one there, and I'm either forced to retreat or die.
I got it, alot of you guys think it doesn't have an effect, and for some it may not. However, I literally can't retaliate, and that's not just PC either. I can instantly tell when I'm facing a group of guys with them. It's like we're moving in slow motion as they just pick us off. Even my speed tanked suits seem slow like I'm tanking armor.
I wouldn't give two f*cks, if that effect didn't happen, about guys using them. I'm not going to, but more power to those that do. As it stands now CCP is slowly isolating everything individually, and coming up with snake eyes for fixing lag....
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7299
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Posted - 2015.05.04 15:04:00 -
[29] - Quote
"mercenaries" |
Dust User
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
1986
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Posted - 2015.05.04 15:26:00 -
[30] - Quote
Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one.
I will be waiting to be on the other side and see your corp use ringers.
Then I will take pictures and show the world your lack of honor. |
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
195
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Posted - 2015.05.04 16:20:00 -
[31] - Quote
Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
-- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5123
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Posted - 2015.05.04 16:29:00 -
[32] - Quote
Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
865
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Posted - 2015.05.04 16:53:00 -
[33] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç
It's the inevitable outcome regardless lol!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5125
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:25:00 -
[34] - Quote
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç It's the inevitable outcome regardless lol!
We created NF alliance for ringing purposes, we are a ringing alliance sure some corps want districts now but the rest don't we just want to ring..we were created for ringing now your basically trying to null our purpose. Personally I'd rather have another corp hold the districts and I'll do the fighting if needed..holding districts and needing 16 guys to want to PC isn't my thing I'd rather just ring. But honestly that might be the strongest alliance ever though, RND/NF/FA/Cap/OH/PE/NS, that'd definitely be up their with EoN..but fortunately for everyone else this isn't a thing
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SeargentSAVAGE
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:36:00 -
[35] - Quote
Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0
Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
866
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:56:00 -
[36] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç It's the inevitable outcome regardless lol! We created NF alliance for ringing purposes, we are a ringing alliance sure some corps want districts now but the rest don't we just want to ring..we were created for ringing now your basically trying to null our purpose. Personally I'd rather have another corp hold the districts and I'll do the fighting if needed..holding districts and needing 16 guys to want to PC isn't my thing I'd rather just ring. But honestly that might be the strongest alliance ever though, RND/NF/FA/Cap/OH/PE/NS, that'd definitely be up their with EoN..but fortunately for everyone else this isn't a thing
That's what I mean. It's a thing, just not officially. Any corp that forms, and gets a district today, will fight the same guys repeatedly. The same corps not as often, but the same ringers most definitely. To the point where they can almost expect at the least a common 5 to 10 literally every time.
With this going on it's no wonder we're not seeing more willing volunteers. Personally, I have no issues fighting anyone, be it on an even plain. In our current condition as a corp, if I'm honest, we'd be hard pressed to hold off too many.
What I'd like to see in PC is tiers! The land can be broken down into different tiers of worth, and for large corps smaller, less lucrative areas, would not be worth their resources to attack. Smaller corps, however, could fight like cats and dogs for the same area as it carries value to them. Much more valuable areas would be worth the effort to top tier corps, but require more resources to take and maintain. This land will also be open to raids!
There's so many opportunities that come with change, but fear of the unknown keeps us clinging to what was.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
866
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:57:00 -
[37] - Quote
SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post
He's hispanic.....
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Xvos Reigns
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
206
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:05:00 -
[38] - Quote
Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Go **** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants **** its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach ***** 
This is a game of stars. Why not reach for them?
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
355
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:12:00 -
[39] - Quote
MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty.
That's also why we have terrestrial combat officers.
48th Special Operations Force.
Twitter- @48SOF
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
160
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:13:00 -
[40] - Quote
I am hard anti-ringer due to some corps even using ringers from within one's own alliance to raid their fellow corp member's PC districts. This game is not balanced! It never will be.
This game says "Mercenaries" but we are not mercenaries. Those other shooters (COD, Battlefield) have mercenaries. You have no loyalty, no one knows who you are, you fight, then you leave.
Read history about the "Mercenaries" of old. They had loyalty in a war because they needed to sleep somewhere. They only fight for one side. If they switched sides, everyone would not trust them. Ringers need to either choose a corp or be corp less and have their battle record listed. You want to be a good, we will buy and sell you as such, thus trading on your name.
I think we would be more a kin to corsairs, pirates who plunder and fight all but the side that backs us.
We have ownership in dust which makes this game different. Everyone shouting for mercenaries doesn't see how toxic these players are or has not been in a PC match in the prior 6 months. If you are allowed to have anyone walk in and fight for you, the newer younger members will never be invited. I have seen corps shun experienced corp members in advanced gear in favor of ringers from other corps. I coach new players through PCs and as an FC who has leveraged new players, that is painful but those new players grow. I am an example of that growth, but that was back when S.E.V.E.N was holding 3 districts.
They should shut down PC if they let ringers back in. I want to fight one corp to another, not the best you can hire. Planetary FC used to have that. If your corp has only 8 proto guys and 8 advanced, then bring them. If you are 10 strong at that time, then we fight you then 10 to 16. Then you return attack when you are 16 for the 16 to 10. Making flipping districts easier was my recommendation to CCP. Then with the new timer system you can go reacquire if you are a weekend warrior corp.
From Logi, to Heavy, to Scout, now I am moving to ADS. Please stop balancing!
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
3437
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:14:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period. And in the process, removing free agency. Yes, that's a really stupid idea and everyone in EVE would be rolling their eyes at it. Game mechanics aren't supposed to limit who you can fight for. Your own reputation exists for that. That's kind of the entire premise of New Eden and something a few key people seem to have forgotten along the way. In EVE I could offer my corporations services for a war and take the money. I could then sit back and do nothing, or even backstab the one who just paid me. Those are good wholesome mechanics for a not-so-good and wholesome universe. But in Dust, we want it so you're locked into an agreement have HAVE to honor it? No. Ringing can cost additional CP, that's fine. But contractual lockouts are stupid.
I understand this, and I don't particularly like limiting who one can fight for.
However, I just get tired of fighting THE SAME PEOPLE over and over again, regardless of which corp is fighting. You could attack one corp and, based on who's fighting, actually fight a whole different corp.
If you've got a better idea, let's hear it! Surely you're not implying that the situation is fine as it is right now...? 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
868
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:19:00 -
[42] - Quote
Xvos Reigns wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Go **** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants **** its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach *****
..... He's hispanic..... I remember saying this once already?!
To be fair, you've picked up some pretty formidable mercs as of late...
Not pointing any fingers in any type of negative light, or anything.
However, the point of this thread was to highlight the use of ringers. Tags mean nothing. I can pick up all of fatal absolution and outer heaven into corp, hypothetically, and come after all your districts. Would you not scream foul play, or would you say "D3ATH CARD" did it off the muscle?
What all of us "vets" should be focusing on, more than anything, is player RETENTION! Not the fastest way to alienate an entire ethnic group of people because they speak spanish?!
If we don't do our best as players to help CCP in the one area they.... don't fair so well in.... all these ideas are nothing. They'll be no one to "farm" playing the game before long if the current atmosphere continues. You can hate each other later.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5127
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:20:00 -
[43] - Quote
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç It's the inevitable outcome regardless lol! We created NF alliance for ringing purposes, we are a ringing alliance sure some corps want districts now but the rest don't we just want to ring..we were created for ringing now your basically trying to null our purpose. Personally I'd rather have another corp hold the districts and I'll do the fighting if needed..holding districts and needing 16 guys to want to PC isn't my thing I'd rather just ring. But honestly that might be the strongest alliance ever though, RND/NF/FA/Cap/OH/PE/NS, that'd definitely be up their with EoN..but fortunately for everyone else this isn't a thing That's what I mean. It's a thing, just not officially. Any corp that forms, and gets a district today, will fight the same guys repeatedly. The same corps not as often, but the same ringers most definitely. To the point where they can almost expect at the least a common 5 to 10 literally every time. With this going on it's no wonder we're not seeing more willing volunteers. Personally, I have no issues fighting anyone, be it on an even plain. In our current condition as a corp, if I'm honest, we'd be hard pressed to hold off too many. What I'd like to see in PC is tiers! The land can be broken down into different tiers of worth, and for large corps smaller, less lucrative areas, would not be worth their resources to attack. Smaller corps, however, could fight like cats and dogs for the same area as it carries value to them. Much more valuable areas would be worth the effort to top tier corps, but require more resources to take and maintain. This land will also be open to raids! There's so many opportunities that come with change, but fear of the unknown keeps us clinging to what was.
I agree with the tiers, I brought it up before but doubt anyone cared maybe someone who is actually liked should make a thread =ƒÿâ hint hint
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Dust User
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
1989
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:20:00 -
[44] - Quote
Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
#HONOR
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5127
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:24:00 -
[45] - Quote
If you don't like ringers then go do corp battles and let the mercs do pc.
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Xvos Reigns
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:31:00 -
[46] - Quote
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Xvos Reigns wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Go **** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants **** its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach ***** ..... He's hispanic..... I remember saying this once already?! To be fair, you've picked up some pretty formidable mercs as of late... Not pointing any fingers in any type of negative light, or anything. However, the point of this thread was to highlight the use of ringers. Tags mean nothing. I can pick up all of fatal absolution and outer heaven into corp, hypothetically, and come after all your districts. Would you not scream foul play, or would you say "D3ATH CARD" did it off the muscle? What all of us "vets" should be focusing on, more than anything, is player RETENTION! Not the fastest way to alienate an entire ethnic group of people because they speak spanish?! If we don't do our best as players to help CCP in the one area they.... don't fair so well in.... all these ideas are nothing. They'll be no one to "farm" playing the game before long if the current atmosphere continues. You can hate each other later.
Frankly i would say good job. Then i would keep sending attacks utill i beat...complaing gets you nowhere...now practice is everything. I know its practice, we're talking bout practice....get gud scrub quite qqing nobody respects that ****
This is a game of stars. Why not reach for them?
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
868
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:50:00 -
[47] - Quote
I'd like to see the price of clone packs go down, and the number of clones in the pack raised.
If a new corp wants to get into PC currently they have to join an alliance, and pray someone wants to spare a district.
If the prices varied:
10 mil for 150 clones
20 mil for 200 clones
50 mil for 350 clones
Something to that effect would let mercs without districts go for there's without having to tax their corps member less.
I gaurantee, even if they got obliterated, you'd see more effort out of corps, and this would mean more battles! Ringers aren't necessarily the problem so much as the lack of fights available.
Also, instead of 3 and out on battles to take a district. Make it more of a campaign with the factional warfare "move the chains" type of setup. Forcing corps to win a large number of battles over time, or win a smaller amount by epic proportion! You have to take control of the district control. The map would shoe own areas, and contested areas being fought over. Corps, like negative-feedback, could then sign up to fight for the side that lays the most, but would have to pledge temporary loyalty. A small number of ringers per battle would be allowed, 4 to 5 at the most, and that corp who paid for ringers would still have to actually be there to fight.
The fact that mercs aren't always online to help because "life and sh*t" eww, wouldn't hinder their ability to hold an area. Where they may lose ground on a tuesday, they can make a comeback on a wednesday. While this could help them hold, sustained attacks could weaken their ability to gain passive resources significantly, since you should have to have a 65-100% control to receive resources. So there's no "we'll just field outer heaven every saturday" bs?!
On the flipside, for the attacking corps, weakening resources produced weakens control over all, and the chains move faster in your corps favor! This also works for raiding! You could send lower level players in the corp on raids in different areas, while the vets fight larger scale battles elsewhere. Making it worth the time invested in rookies when it comes to tactics training.
On this alone so much fun could be had, but noooo! We wanna spend all our time beating the same guys..... with the same guys?!
Let's give CCP our best ideas, and make the game we love better. To the ringers! You're not losing much either way this ends up regardless.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
868
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:54:00 -
[48] - Quote
Xvos Reigns wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Xvos Reigns wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Go **** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants **** its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach ***** ..... He's hispanic..... I remember saying this once already?! To be fair, you've picked up some pretty formidable mercs as of late... Not pointing any fingers in any type of negative light, or anything. However, the point of this thread was to highlight the use of ringers. Tags mean nothing. I can pick up all of fatal absolution and outer heaven into corp, hypothetically, and come after all your districts. Would you not scream foul play, or would you say "D3ATH CARD" did it off the muscle? What all of us "vets" should be focusing on, more than anything, is player RETENTION! Not the fastest way to alienate an entire ethnic group of people because they speak spanish?! If we don't do our best as players to help CCP in the one area they.... don't fair so well in.... all these ideas are nothing. They'll be no one to "farm" playing the game before long if the current atmosphere continues. You can hate each other later. Frankly i would say good job. Then i would keep sending attacks utill i beat...complaing gets you nowhere...now practice is everything. I know its practice, we're talking bout practice....get gud scrub quite qqing nobody respects that ****
Nobody, doesn't matter. The truth of the situation is apparent. Even you guys, if the tables were turned, could benefit from what I've proposed. You would, at the least, have the option to tell anyone to eat a d1ck. What I propose gives "The original planet express" minus ringers, the ability to take and hold ground On THEIR OWN!
I think that's all anyone wants in the end. Hire ringers out of choice, not absolute necessity.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
925
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Posted - 2015.05.04 18:57:00 -
[49] - Quote
IMO using ringers just makes it like any other battle, if i'm not fighting a full corp than to me it's just another battle, so I don't bother. Please keep in mind this is only MY outlook on PC.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1944
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:06:00 -
[50] - Quote
Lol this whole thread is corny.
Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak...
LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING.
Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY.
I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision.
But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips.
Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
869
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:20:00 -
[51] - Quote
Roy Ventus wrote:Lol this whole thread is corny.
Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak...
LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING.
Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY.
I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision.
But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips.
Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed.
But you're all ringing for the smallest piece of the pie ever! If we give PC 2.0 a chance you could ring all day and night if you wanted, in different types of battles! However, if we run all the players off who ya gonna ring for?
We must make PC better, and more lucrative, than the pubs. I'm all ears cuz ringing ain't doing it?
"Anybody order chaos?"
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4565
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:26:00 -
[52] - Quote
I agree, ringers from out of alliance should not be possible.
Otherwise corp and alliance has no sense to exist.
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7951
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:37:00 -
[53] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç
1/3 so far...
*goes to message shep*
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Xvos Reigns
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
207
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:40:00 -
[54] - Quote
shaman oga wrote:I agree, ringers from out of alliance should not be possible.
Otherwise corp and alliance has no sense to exist.
See you soon.
This is a game of stars. Why not reach for them?
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7951
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:40:00 -
[55] - Quote
Bradric Banewolf wrote:I'd like to see the price of clone packs go down, and the number of clones in the pack raised.
If a new corp wants to get into PC currently they have to join an alliance, and pray someone wants to spare a district.
If the prices varied:
10 mil for 150 clones
20 mil for 200 clones
50 mil for 350 clones
Something to that effect would let mercs without districts go for their's without having to tax their corps' member-less.
I gaurantee, even if they got obliterated, you'd see more effort out of corps, and this would mean more battles! Ringers aren't necessarily the problem so much as the lack of fights available.
Also, instead of 3 and out on battles to take a district. Make it more of a campaign with the factional warfare "move the chains" type of setup. Forcing corps to win a large number of battles over time, or win a smaller amount by epic proportion! You have to take control of the district. The map would show owned areas, and contested areas being fought over. Corps, like negative-feedback, could then sign up to fight for the side that pays the most, but would have to pledge temporary loyalty. A small number of ringers per battle would be allowed, 4 to 5 at the most, and that corp who paid for ringers would still have to actually be there to fight.
The fact that mercs aren't always online to help because "life and sh*t" eww, wouldn't hinder their ability to hold an area. Where they may lose ground on a tuesday, they can make a comeback on a wednesday. While this could help them hold, sustained attacks could weaken their ability to gain passive resources significantly, since you should have to have a 65-100% control to receive resources. So there's no "we'll just field outer heaven every saturday" bs?!
On the flipside, for the attacking corps, weakening resources produced weakens control over all, and the chains move faster in your corps favor! This also works for raiding! You could send lower level players in the corp on raids in different areas, while the vets fight larger scale battles elsewhere. Making it worth the time invested in rookies when it comes to tactics training.
On this alone so much fun could be had, but noooo! We wanna spend all our time beating the same guys..... with the same guys?!
Let's give CCP our best ideas, and make the game we love better. To the ringers! You're not losing much either way this ends up regardless.
sounds like a lot of restrictions for something that is suppose to be a sand box.
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
Get Dust ISK Here
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deezy dabest
2189
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:57:00 -
[56] - Quote
You "pro ringers" are too funny. With an alliance lock you can just join one of the corps in the alliance for the fight. Oh I forgot you are too busy using your corp tags as promotion instead of your actual name and skill.
If you want to be pro ringers you should be useless to your corp. All an alliance lock does is makes it so that you are not contributing to any corp being able to hold a district from a CP stand point which is exactly how a pro ringer should work. You are so busy trying to have your cake and eat it too that you are just making yourselves look stupid.
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deezy dabest
2190
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Lol this whole thread is corny.
Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak...
LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING.
Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY.
I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision.
But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips.
Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed.
But you're all ringing for the smallest piece of the pie ever! If we give PC 2.0 a chance you could ring all day and night if you wanted, in different types of battles! However, if we run all the players off who ya gonna ring for? We must make PC better, and more lucrative, than the pubs. I'm all ears cuz ringing ain't doing it?
The funny thing is they are ringing just to brag about their wallet which has pretty much reached a point of not even mattering. There are only two classes of wallet now, those who can and those who can not proto stomp. |
Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
33
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:02:00 -
[58] - Quote
Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. I will be waiting to be on the other side and see your corp use ringers. Then I will take pictures and show the world your lack of honor.
I'm not in charge and can't control whether we use ringers or not. This is just my opinion. But we do hardly ever use ringers. Very rarely and I don't like it. As for tonight, I wish I could be there to shoot your face in, but I'll be at a banquet
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
33
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:17:00 -
[59] - Quote
SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post
Yes, making fun of someone who's first language isn't English. How hilarious
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
874
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:18:00 -
[60] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:I'd like to see the price of clone packs go down, and the number of clones in the pack raised.
If a new corp wants to get into PC currently they have to join an alliance, and pray someone wants to spare a district.
If the prices varied:
10 mil for 150 clones
20 mil for 200 clones
50 mil for 350 clones
Something to that effect would let mercs without districts go for their's without having to tax their corps' member-less.
I gaurantee, even if they got obliterated, you'd see more effort out of corps, and this would mean more battles! Ringers aren't necessarily the problem so much as the lack of fights available.
Also, instead of 3 and out on battles to take a district. Make it more of a campaign with the factional warfare "move the chains" type of setup. Forcing corps to win a large number of battles over time, or win a smaller amount by epic proportion! You have to take control of the district. The map would show owned areas, and contested areas being fought over. Corps, like negative-feedback, could then sign up to fight for the side that pays the most, but would have to pledge temporary loyalty. A small number of ringers per battle would be allowed, 4 to 5 at the most, and that corp who paid for ringers would still have to actually be there to fight.
The fact that mercs aren't always online to help because "life and sh*t" eww, wouldn't hinder their ability to hold an area. Where they may lose ground on a tuesday, they can make a comeback on a wednesday. While this could help them hold, sustained attacks could weaken their ability to gain passive resources significantly, since you should have to have a 65-100% control to receive resources. So there's no "we'll just field outer heaven every saturday" bs?!
On the flipside, for the attacking corps, weakening resources produced weakens control over all, and the chains move faster in your corps favor! This also works for raiding! You could send lower level players in the corp on raids in different areas, while the vets fight larger scale battles elsewhere. Making it worth the time invested in rookies when it comes to tactics training.
On this alone so much fun could be had, but noooo! We wanna spend all our time beating the same guys..... with the same guys?!
Let's give CCP our best ideas, and make the game we love better. To the ringers! You're not losing much either way this ends up regardless. sounds like a lot of restrictions for something that is suppose to be a sand box.
Restrictions? I don't live in new eden. This isn't my job, and I have a real one. This just gives both sides a chance to function effectively, and I don't have to contact mercs from around the world to neckbeard for PC's?!
If we wanted to become a strictly raiding corp we could! If we wanted to attack districts for training we could without it costing 50 mil! If we wanted to just fight on Thursday through Saturday on our districts we could.
There are no restrictions here. The current system, however, has been ridiculously restricting forever. Eve pilots can ONLY drop OB's, only the top 16 can fight in corp endeavors, corps can only retain revenue from tax, etc.
The current system is not appealing to new players at all! They're not even appealing to most vets!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4566
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:22:00 -
[61] - Quote
Xvos Reigns wrote:shaman oga wrote:I agree, ringers from out of alliance should not be possible.
Otherwise corp and alliance has no sense to exist. See you soon.
Not me, too much lag to get involved.
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
989
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:26:00 -
[62] - Quote
Xvos Reigns wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Go **** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants **** its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach *****
Sure you guys deserve those "14 districts" all I see a small group of bandits who call themselves Panda Express<--- lol.
You what happens when a corp owns many districts. I would tell you but this time I want you to find out. Now go buy me some tacos :)
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
33
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:38:00 -
[63] - Quote
Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5131
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:44:00 -
[64] - Quote
JIMvc2 wrote:Xvos Reigns wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Go **** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants **** its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach ***** Sure you guys deserve those "14 districts" all I see a small group of bandits who call themselves Panda Express<--- lol. You what happens when a corp owns many districts. I would tell you but this time I want you to find out. Now go buy me some tacos :)
Well it depends, you're shitting on the ringers so who do you think they'll side with? Maybe attack and find out
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7955
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once
I almost forgot we are in GD, thanks for reminding me....
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Dust User
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
1990
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:51:00 -
[66] - Quote
Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once
lolmassattacks
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
3440
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:53:00 -
[67] - Quote
Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once
As far as I'm aware, PE use a full 16. At least, they did in a PC against 0.H yesterday.
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
34
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:54:00 -
[68] - Quote
Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once lolmassattacks You must be new.
Yes and no
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
991
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:55:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once
What a magnificent idea. All Corps in Dust launch a full 24/7 none stop attack on Panda Express 14 districts. We'll see how long they last. >:)
Hey its PC right so lets bring some justice. No More Districts to the Isk Hungry PE Corporations.
If you see that weakling Kubos in Gal FW = Kill him along with his miserable brandon the idiot.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
34
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:56:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once As far as I'm aware, PE use a full 16. At least, they did in a PC against 0.H yesterday.
I feel like I've seen u before. Did u send me a message a few days ago after a close battle?
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7956
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:58:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once What a magnificent idea. All Corps in Dust launch a full 24/7 none stop attack on Panda Express 14 districts. We'll see how long they last. >:)
Hey its PC right so lets bring some justice. No More Districts to the Isk Hungry PE Corporations. If you see that weakling Kubos in Gal FW = Kill him along with his miserable brandon the idiot.
I seriously cannot tell if you a trolling or truly think that will work....
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
992
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:07:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once As far as I'm aware, PE use a full 16. At least, they did in a PC against 0.H yesterday. I feel like I've seen u before. Did u send me a message a few days ago after a close battle?
I Honestly don't remember. I don't play much since for the past 7 weeks its been nothing but studying. With 5 weeks left in the semester for me = Nothing more than exams, 1 quiz, and finals = ugh but oh well.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
34
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:08:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once As far as I'm aware, PE use a full 16. At least, they did in a PC against 0.H yesterday. I feel like I've seen u before. Did u send me a message a few days ago after a close battle? I Honestly don't remember. I don't play much since for the past 7 weeks its been nothing but studying. With 5 weeks left in the semester for me = Nothing more than exams, 1 quiz, and finals = ugh but oh well.
I'm sorry but I was talking to Dreis
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:16:00 -
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So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
3443
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:28:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once As far as I'm aware, PE use a full 16. At least, they did in a PC against 0.H yesterday. I feel like I've seen u before. Did u send me a message a few days ago after a close battle? I Honestly don't remember. I don't play much since for the past 7 weeks its been nothing but studying. With 5 weeks left in the semester for me = Nothing more than exams, 1 quiz, and finals = ugh but oh well. I'm sorry but I was talking to Dreis
Maybe. 
I'll check my sent mail in a sec. 
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
38
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:35:00 -
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I deleted all mine, that's why I'm unsure
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7956
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:38:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC...
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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SeargentSAVAGE
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
24
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:49:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post Yes, making fun of someone who's first language isn't English. How hilarious
More like making fun of pure stupidity seeing Kubos name in game reads "Grand Master Kubo" not gand cubo....... |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:56:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC...
Enlighten me! What would fix the current situation? Skins lol? Passive isk? I mean I'm all for making it better so i'm, unlike most, willing to hear out literally all ideas.
The current system sucks!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:58:00 -
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SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post Yes, making fun of someone who's first language isn't English. How hilarious More like making fun of pure stupidity seeing Kubos name in game reads "Grand Master Kubo" not gand cubo.......
That "grand master" part didn't make you guys ask ANY questions? Just saying
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
201
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:05:00 -
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SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post Yes, making fun of someone who's first language isn't English. How hilarious More like making fun of pure stupidity seeing Kubos name in game reads "Grand Master Kubo" not gand cubo.......
*Grand thef Kubo, Panda Express edition 
Yeap my grammar is not good when I type in a 4'' smartphone screen.
I only see a few "Squeeze Toy Aliens" waiting for a "Grand Master Kubo" take it on to the PC battles ... as the Crawl in Toy Story movies...
-- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
39
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:06:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
Smart Deploy:
LA-RESISTENCIA
Pendejitos
COALICION LATINA
EL Azteca Empire
Inmortales LLC
U-STARS
ScReWeD uP InC
El Imperio Hispano
ELEGIDOS POR EVE.
The Naughty Ninjas
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Some Gave All
Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post Yes, making fun of someone who's first language isn't English. How hilarious More like making fun of pure stupidity seeing Kubos name in game reads "Grand Master Kubo" not gand cubo....... That "grand master" part didn't make you guys ask ANY questions? Just saying I want you to type the exact same thing he did in Spanish lol! See if your spanish comes out perfect like you're expecting his English to?
Hahahahahahaha
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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CUSE TOWN333
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
2487
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:18:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once lolmassattacks You must be new. Yes and no
new or not you speak for your whole corporation when you talk nonsense on the forums. your districts getting flipped can now be blamed solely on you.
CBM. PE master race
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7957
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:41:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC... Enlighten me! What would fix the current situation? Skins lol? Passive isk? I mean I'm all for making it better so i'm, unlike most, willing to hear out literally all ideas. The current system sucks!
What about the PC 3.0 thread they made with all those ideas are pretty nice.
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
Get Dust ISK Here
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles.
1387
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:42:00 -
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There should be mercenaries
Obviously the entire team should not be ringers but ringers should exist.
If ringers are gone then I might as well join an alliance and permanently ring for them along with everyone else. Form a blue donut and harm PC even more, that is what this alliance only garbage idea is.
Either A, let ringers stay but limit how many ringers can be on a team which I proposed to Ratati a while ago.
or B, have most ringers who are close friends join alliances thus leading to the current situation but with tags. Except they cannot ring at all which starts leading towards a blue donut of corps.
Looking at the tags of the people being anti ringing, your idea harms you badly. Currently you can get ringers but if your idea comes out then you will fight ringers even more because they will then have the tags of the alliance you are fighting. Oh and you would not be able to get good ringers too because the good ringers ring for friends or because of boredom, not people who QQ often.
If ringing is gone or this contract crap happens then expect the giant alliances that hold everything to occur. After all, you are forcing everyone to choose a side which is against the concept of the game and even Eve.
"I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masturbat afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
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Aramis Madrigal
Titans of Phoenix
RUST415
406
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:45:00 -
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I think a system that rewards using your own corp members would be preferable to one that penalizes you for using ringers. Something like a 3% chance per corp member for officer salvage at the end of match with a full 16 making the chance 100% or additional revenue recovered from your own bio-massed clones if they are from corp members or additional clones are recovered/generated when you are successful using your own corp members. A loyalty point system where you gain LP by participating in your corps PCs but not while ringing might be viable as well. |
deezy dabest
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:I think a system that rewards using your own corp members would be preferable to one that penalizes you for using ringers. Something like a 3% chance per corp member for officer salvage at the end of match with a full 16 making the chance 100% or additional revenue recovered from your own bio-massed clones if they are from corp members or additional clones are recovered/generated when you are successful using your own corp members. A loyalty point system where you gain LP by participating in your corps PCs but not while ringing might be viable as well.
Its very simple. Ringers should not be able to benefit from their corp having a district while they are off fighting for other districts.
All passive rewards and CP gain should be limited to players who have been in the corporation for 5 days.
Entry into PC should require the player be in the alliance.
This way ringers can decide if they would rather try to own their own district or if they want to run around ringing all day. |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.04 23:51:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC... Enlighten me! What would fix the current situation? Skins lol? Passive isk? I mean I'm all for making it better so i'm, unlike most, willing to hear out literally all ideas. The current system sucks! What about the PC 3.0 thread they made with all those ideas are pretty nice.
You referring to the think tank, or another thread entirely?
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
882
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:06:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:There should be mercenaries
Obviously the entire team should not be ringers but ringers should exist.
If ringers are gone then I might as well join an alliance and permanently ring for them along with everyone else. Form a blue donut and harm PC even more, that is what this alliance only garbage idea is.
Either A, let ringers stay but limit how many ringers can be on a team which I proposed to Ratati a while ago.
or B, have most ringers who are close friends join alliances thus leading to the current situation but with tags. Except they cannot ring at all which starts leading towards a blue donut of corps.
Looking at the tags of the people being anti ringing, your idea harms you badly. Currently you can get ringers but if your idea comes out then you will fight ringers even more because they will then have the tags of the alliance you are fighting. Oh and you would not be able to get good ringers too because the good ringers ring for friends or because of boredom, not people who QQ often.
If ringing is gone or this contract crap happens then expect the giant alliances that hold everything to occur. After all, you are forcing everyone to choose a side which is against the concept of the game and even Eve.
It's easy for me to apply to any already beast corp, but then who would you guys ring against? What you're saying is the "care-bear" mentality is the problem?
I get what you're saying for smaller corps like ours, but that won't necessarily change regardless of the outcome. We fight them now already just like that?!
What would you suggest that would actually change this? In your words what would be the best thing for smaller corps that haven't "got gud" yet?
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles.
1390
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:29:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:There should be mercenaries
Obviously the entire team should not be ringers but ringers should exist.
If ringers are gone then I might as well join an alliance and permanently ring for them along with everyone else. Form a blue donut and harm PC even more, that is what this alliance only garbage idea is.
Either A, let ringers stay but limit how many ringers can be on a team which I proposed to Ratati a while ago.
or B, have most ringers who are close friends join alliances thus leading to the current situation but with tags. Except they cannot ring at all which starts leading towards a blue donut of corps.
Looking at the tags of the people being anti ringing, your idea harms you badly. Currently you can get ringers but if your idea comes out then you will fight ringers even more because they will then have the tags of the alliance you are fighting. Oh and you would not be able to get good ringers too because the good ringers ring for friends or because of boredom, not people who QQ often.
If ringing is gone or this contract crap happens then expect the giant alliances that hold everything to occur. After all, you are forcing everyone to choose a side which is against the concept of the game and even Eve. It's easy for me to apply to any already beast corp, but then who would you guys ring against? What you're saying is the "care-bear" mentality is the problem? I get what you're saying for smaller corps like ours, but that won't necessarily change regardless of the outcome. We fight them now already just like that?! What would you suggest that would actually change this? In your words what would be the best thing for smaller corps that haven't "got gud" yet?
Currently, ringers ring for whoever they want. Limiting that forces them to choose a side which buffs heavily whoever gets the ringers while harming everyone else who does not get them.
I proposed something to Ratati about a system that limits how many people can be fielded. Up to 16 corp members can be in it, only around 8 alliance members, and only like 3 ringers. So the most non corp teams would have 3 ringers, 8 alliance, and 5 corp. Good ringers will still have business, an alliance can help a lot, and the corp who the PC belongs to cannot rely on the other two groups to do all the work because 5 corp members will be in it and if they do not do much, that is 5 people being deadweight.
"I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masturbat afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
40
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:30:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once lolmassattacks You must be new. Yes and no new or not you speak for your whole corporation when you talk nonsense on the forums. your districts getting flipped can now be blamed solely on you.
As do you, and we all realize that PE is full of good for nothing @$$ holes. My first time on the forum and so far I've seen nothing but jerkish comments from everyone in PE
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
992
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:33:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once lolmassattacks You must be new. Yes and no new or not you speak for your whole corporation when you talk nonsense on the forums. your districts getting flipped can now be blamed solely on you. As do you, and we all realize that PE is full of good for nothing @$$ holes. My first time on the forum and so far I've seen nothing but jerkish comments from everyone in PE
The one thing that PE can't get right is when some of there members get all butt hurt and start to run there mouth whenever they all lose there uplinks and some ****** starts swearing and **** and I'm like "That MF needs to calm down and have fun... you guys think you own the dame place when in reality you don't effin dont."
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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CUSE TOWN333
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
2489
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:14:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once lolmassattacks You must be new. Yes and no new or not you speak for your whole corporation when you talk nonsense on the forums. your districts getting flipped can now be blamed solely on you. As do you, and we all realize that PE is full of good for nothing @$$ holes. My first time on the forum and so far I've seen nothing but jerkish comments from everyone in PE
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
CBM. PE master race
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
42
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:23:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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MythTanker
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
416
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:25:00 -
[95] - Quote
Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting
We're
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
885
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Posted - 2015.05.05 01:25:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:There should be mercenaries
Obviously the entire team should not be ringers but ringers should exist.
If ringers are gone then I might as well join an alliance and permanently ring for them along with everyone else. Form a blue donut and harm PC even more, that is what this alliance only garbage idea is.
Either A, let ringers stay but limit how many ringers can be on a team which I proposed to Ratati a while ago.
or B, have most ringers who are close friends join alliances thus leading to the current situation but with tags. Except they cannot ring at all which starts leading towards a blue donut of corps.
Looking at the tags of the people being anti ringing, your idea harms you badly. Currently you can get ringers but if your idea comes out then you will fight ringers even more because they will then have the tags of the alliance you are fighting. Oh and you would not be able to get good ringers too because the good ringers ring for friends or because of boredom, not people who QQ often.
If ringing is gone or this contract crap happens then expect the giant alliances that hold everything to occur. After all, you are forcing everyone to choose a side which is against the concept of the game and even Eve. It's easy for me to apply to any already beast corp, but then who would you guys ring against? What you're saying is the "care-bear" mentality is the problem? I get what you're saying for smaller corps like ours, but that won't necessarily change regardless of the outcome. We fight them now already just like that?! What would you suggest that would actually change this? In your words what would be the best thing for smaller corps that haven't "got gud" yet? Currently, ringers ring for whoever they want. Limiting that forces them to choose a side which buffs heavily whoever gets the ringers while harming everyone else who does not get them. I proposed something to Ratati about a system that limits how many people can be fielded. Up to 16 corp members can be in it, only around 8 alliance members, and only like 3 ringers. So the most non corp teams would have 3 ringers, 8 alliance, and 5 corp. Good ringers will still have business, an alliance can help a lot, and the corp who the PC belongs to cannot rely on the other two groups to do all the work because 5 corp members will be in it and if they do not do much, that is 5 people being deadweight.
I can agree with this, but make it a total of 8 ringers in total per team, be it alliance or out and out ringers. A max of 8 corp must be in regardless. 8 alliance and 3 ringers is 11 total other than corp players. That's a team carry. At the least, in the beginning, a corp should be required to bring a minimum of 8 players.
Remember, no one said ringers couldn't run raids :)
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MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting We're
Forum talk don't got no time for punctuation
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Fatal Absolution
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting We're Forum talk don't got no time for punctuation
Any*. That is a double negative.
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
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MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:MythTanker wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting We're Forum talk don't got no time for punctuation Any*. That is a double negative.
Ik, that's why I said it
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
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I love this guy. Hilarious. Speak the truth brother
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Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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I thoroughly and completely agree with keeping ringers. Mainly for a couple of reasons based off of the so called lore that we have in dust. We are all Mercs, and I'd like to think of Molden Heath as our sandbox. Molden Heath is supposed to be where we the players make the story to dust. Where we the players take control of districts, and in some cases entire planets!
However due to the nature of us all being Mercs we should be allowed to go "Ring" for other corps, however I believe that there should be a process to getting ringers, such as there needing to be a contract made between leadership of the two corps (the corp ringing and the one in need of ringers) however there should be ISK always involved in these "contracts"
Nextly there should be a limit to how many different corps there can be in any given PC. I've seen some PC's with 6-8 different corps all fighting for the same corp, and everyone is just coming from everywhere.
The above is completely my opinion. Thank you and have a nice day o7
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https://twitter.com/DUSTAlerts/status/595407878783045632 |
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting
its funny how your cargo hub got flipped by a 240 clone attack. yeah that was real close lol #REKT #honor
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting its funny how your cargo hub got flipped by a 240 clone attack. yeah that was real close lol #REKT #honor
The attack was about 360 clones.
@Pan stop instigating -_-
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KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period.
He can use CP points, if a corp rings out too much then they lose the ability to attack and eventually even to hire ringers to defend.
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:
forget the forums you should see pounding on your district right now because of your foolishness. #thinkbeforeyouspeak
Pounding? Seemed pretty close to me from how much you built yourselves up and said were not that good. It's funny how I don't see you fighting its funny how your cargo hub got flipped by a 240 clone attack. yeah that was real close lol #REKT #honor
You call this honor? From what you've shown, your Corp is one of the most dishonorable. And, once again, still didn't see your coward @$$ fighting
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
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Tread Loudly 2 wrote:I thoroughly and completely agree with keeping ringers. Mainly for a couple of reasons based off of the so called lore that we have in dust. We are all Mercs, and I'd like to think of Molden Heath as our sandbox. Molden Heath is supposed to be where we the players make the story to dust. Where we the players take control of districts, and in some cases entire planets!
However due to the nature of us all being Mercs we should be allowed to go "Ring" for other corps, however I believe that there should be a process to getting ringers, such as there needing to be a contract made between leadership of the two corps (the corp ringing and the one in need of ringers) however there should be ISK always involved in these "contracts"
Nextly there should be a limit to how many different corps there can be in any given PC. I've seen some PC's with 6-8 different corps all fighting for the same corp, and everyone is just coming from everywhere.
The above is completely my opinion. Thank you and have a nice day o7
Yes, 6-8 is absolutely ridiculous. How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves
You all think you're so great, so I cant wait to put a bullet in your head and laugh at your dumb self
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Dust User
PIanet Express
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves
Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? |
Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.05.05 17:16:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district?
Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol?
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
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Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district?
Earned. We beat SS
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Back and Forth
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Earned. We beat SS
If I had a dollar for every time I beat Ss in PC, I would not know how much money I've earned because I got no clue who SS is....
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Earned. We beat SS If I had a dollar for every time I beat Ss in PC, I would not know how much money I've earned because I got no clue who SS is....
Subsonic Synthesis
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Dust User
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol?
You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you.
Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. |
Bradric Banewolf
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Dust User wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough.
Honor?
I'll admit you..... almost struck a nerve boy! You video game nerd you know NOTHING of HONOR! Even in a video game you're name means "aw f*ck this f*cking troll"?!
Why don't you keep on with your Dust514 PC trolling elsewhere, and let the rest of us actually fix the game huh?
Don't you dare mention that word to me again! You don't f*cking know me, but I know your type you sad f*ck!
Punks like you don't know when to quit smh?!
Clearly the only one who cares anything about the neckbearding required to play PC currently, is you! Everyone else, even your mates, agree that it needs some serious change, but you waste your time as you always have, compensating!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Lol this whole thread is corny.
Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak...
LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING.
Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY.
I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision.
But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips.
Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed.
But you're all ringing for the smallest piece of the pie ever! If we give PC 2.0 a chance you could ring all day and night if you wanted, in different types of battles! However, if we run all the players off who ya gonna ring for? We must make PC better, and more lucrative, than the pubs. I'm all ears cuz ringing ain't doing it?
What does that have to do with what I just said? The elimination of free contract ringing =/= PC 2.0.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
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Posted - 2015.05.05 22:52:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough.
For the record, DUST USER, there's literally the smallest group of players that care about PC. IT'S CRAP, and we're trying our d*mned best to help! We started playing it because YOU bunch of crybabies complained that no one played! Well no f*cking wonder! Look around! Look at you! F*cking laughable! Proud to be a troll lmao!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.05.05 22:57:00 -
[117] - Quote
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. For the record, DUST USER, there's literally the smallest group of players that care about PC. IT'S CRAP, and we're trying our d*mned best to help! We started playing it because YOU bunch of crybabies complained that no one played! Well no f*cking wonder! Look around! Look at you! F*cking laughable! Proud to be a troll lmao!
^^^ Well said. 
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Panthrax Oblivion
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. For the record, DUST USER, there's literally the smallest group of players that care about PC. IT'S CRAP, and we're trying our d*mned best to help! We started playing it because YOU bunch of crybabies complained that no one played! Well no f*cking wonder! Look around! Look at you! F*cking laughable! Proud to be a troll lmao!
I sent u a message
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.05.05 23:04:00 -
[119] - Quote
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. For the record, DUST USER, there's literally the smallest group of players that care about PC. IT'S CRAP, and we're trying our d*mned best to help! We started playing it because YOU bunch of crybabies complained that no one played! Well no f*cking wonder! Look around! Look at you! F*cking laughable! Proud to be a troll lmao!
Changes should have been made years ago, no right now...
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.05.05 23:05:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Lol this whole thread is corny.
Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak...
LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING.
Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY.
I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision.
But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips.
Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed.
But you're all ringing for the smallest piece of the pie ever! If we give PC 2.0 a chance you could ring all day and night if you wanted, in different types of battles! However, if we run all the players off who ya gonna ring for? We must make PC better, and more lucrative, than the pubs. I'm all ears cuz ringing ain't doing it? What does that have to do with what I just said? The elimination of free contract ringing =/= PC 2.0.
Is that what we're calling it now? Free contracting?
Why don't they sign a contract? Why AR they not bound to atleast attempt finishing the contract? Why does it just really resemble trolling more than ANYTHING ELSE?
This whole, "EVE" we just here to lie and steal, mentality might be "fun" in eve, if you're a nerd?! Everyone else thinks it's just kinda slimy?!
We're already doing contracting as mercs. I can even agree to let ringers ring all they want! Personally I really don't care, but dust needs new things for PC.
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Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:
We're already doing contracting as mercs. I can even agree to let ringers ring all they want! Personally I really don't care, but dust needs new things for PC.
This is about the only interesting thing said in this whole thread.
Gotta admit I'd be interested in Raiding if the game mode allowed it to be done anonymously on behalf of another corporation.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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Dust User
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.05.06 11:48:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. For the record, DUST USER, there's literally the smallest group of players that care about PC. IT'S CRAP, and we're trying our d*mned best to help! We started playing it because YOU bunch of crybabies complained that no one played! Well no f*cking wonder! Look around! Look at you! F*cking laughable! Proud to be a troll lmao!
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You guys in here qqing ringers would be wise to hear what Yoshi is telling you- elimination or limiting individuals' ability to "freelance" work on their own will do nothing but forge the most powerful donut corps and alliances possible.
Not to mention the idea that Mercenaries, combatants motivated by private gain, is fundamentally what we all are at the end of the day so limits on mercenary behaviour removes more gameplay than it creates. The ability to Independently Contract should be considered in the context of Inalienable Right and any effort to change that an affront to the common core of us all.
We have the Right to Fight for Whom WE choose, for whatever payment WE decide is worthwhile and agree to.
Al this qq about players playing the game as structured and intended just comes across to those of us who saw the challenges and worked to overcome them as senseless, needless and pathetically infantile.
The #1 factor in reducing PC activity and the playerbase as a whole in recent months has been the capitulation on the part of CCP to the QQPC playerbase on turning PC payouts to garbage. Plain and Simple. You claimed the PC players were hurting the game, you've gotten your way and now guess what? The game at all levels, in all areas is made worse overall. I wonder who that missing playerbase in the matchmaker was, where they went and why?
I'm not excusing the often ...abrasive...conduct of PC players who roam the map and/or PC channels looking for fights, simply stating that this QQ faction is worse. Both in inspiration and in repurcussion.
Open-Beta Vet.
Egbinger Original.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.06 23:44:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
Because the QQers won't stop QQing about all the damn QQ in their eyes blocking their vision.
Open-Beta Vet.
Egbinger Original.
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man- bear pig
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RUST415
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el OPERATOR wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
Because the QQers won't stop QQing about all the damn QQ in their eyes blocking their vision.
This isn't directed at just you, el OPERATOR, you were just the closest one to use it.
Does "QQ" mean crying? because if it does, that's the dumbest **** I've ever seen. People are getting corrected on spelling and grammar, but everyone's cool with letting "QQ" slide? Seriously? This isn't twitter, you don't have a small limitation on characters. Use your words.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:11:00 -
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Yes bro, "QQ" is crying.
The reason it doesn't get grammer-nazied (usually, lol) is because it's not an abbreviation or some phonetic, its an illustrative. Like any of the other emoticons lined up at the top of the reply box. "QQ" is right in there with "8)" or "8P" or "XD".
Its just two little eyes crying so normally easy to understand and hard to **** up. Unlike **** poor spelling and/or grammer.
What can I say? We're slowly and surely going back to hieroglyphs.
Open-Beta Vet.
Egbinger Original.
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VAHZZ
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man- bear pig wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
Because the QQers won't stop QQing about all the damn QQ in their eyes blocking their vision. This isn't directed at just you, el OPERATOR, you were just the closest one to use it. Does "QQ" mean crying? because if it does, that's the dumbest **** I've ever seen. People are getting corrected on spelling and grammar, but everyone's cool with letting "QQ" slide? Seriously? This isn't twitter, you don't have a small limitation on characters. Use your words.
Your tears are delicious.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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man- bear pig
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VAHZZ wrote:man- bear pig wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
Because the QQers won't stop QQing about all the damn QQ in their eyes blocking their vision. This isn't directed at just you, el OPERATOR, you were just the closest one to use it. Does "QQ" mean crying? because if it does, that's the dumbest **** I've ever seen. People are getting corrected on spelling and grammar, but everyone's cool with letting "QQ" slide? Seriously? This isn't twitter, you don't have a small limitation on characters. Use your words. Your tears are delicious.
Thank you for spelling it out.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1945
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Posted - 2015.05.07 12:51:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Lol this whole thread is corny.
Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak...
LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING.
Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY.
I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision.
But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips.
Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed.
But you're all ringing for the smallest piece of the pie ever! If we give PC 2.0 a chance you could ring all day and night if you wanted, in different types of battles! However, if we run all the players off who ya gonna ring for? We must make PC better, and more lucrative, than the pubs. I'm all ears cuz ringing ain't doing it? What does that have to do with what I just said? The elimination of free contract ringing =/= PC 2.0. Is that what we're calling it now? Free contracting? Why don't they sign a contract? Why are they not bound to atleast attempt finishing the contract? Why does it just really resemble trolling more than ANYTHING ELSE? This whole, "EVE" we just here to lie and steal, mentality might be "fun" in eve, if you're a nerd?! Everyone else thinks it's just kinda slimy?! We're already doing contracting as mercs. I can even agree to let ringers ring all they want! Personally I really don't care, but dust needs new things for PC.
Lol. Aside what people are telling you about how limiting mercs will bring about super alliances/donuts, limiting mercenaries because of some damn sick code of honor or feeling that it's "slimy" or whatever is wrong, at best. Leave it free-contracting or else you'll end up with a very "sterile" system in a supposedly player-driven chaotic game.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
601
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Posted - 2015.05.07 13:58:00 -
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I've been in PCs where the entire enemy team was not from that corp. honestly I don't really care
Shields, the silent killer.
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Dust User
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
2006
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:17:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I've been in PCs where the entire enemy team was not from that corp. honestly I don't really care
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
1413
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:57:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I've been in PCs where the entire enemy team was not from that corp. honestly I don't really care
If you can't beat "ringers" you don't need to be in PC. Get gud and try again.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1945
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:25:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Squagga wrote:I've been in PCs where the entire enemy team was not from that corp. honestly I don't really care If you can't beat "ringers" you don't need to be in PC. Get gud and try again.
The term "ringers" doesn't really link to a certain skill level. I mean, sure ringers usually have less cohesion and synergy with a team since they're not of the home team's organization, but other than that a ringer could still present a lot of skill and even over some skills the team doesn't have without them.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
http://royventus.tumblr.com
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
8019
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:41:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I've been in PCs where the entire enemy team was not from that corp. honestly I don't really care
If i could field 16 ringers i would....
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
8019
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:45:00 -
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Anyways, ringers are inherently bad for your corp not for the game. you want to personally push for less ringers and more full corp teams that is how you get better.
0uter heaven
cap ac
Random gunz
Planet express
Last hope
All these corps own the most land in molden heath. All top tier corps got there by using their own players and not ringer teams. If you think ringer teams rule PC you are provably wrong. Ringers help smaller corps fill up there team so they don't have to go in short.
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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