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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:45:00 -
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If anyone can field a full corp team and does not currently have a district feel free to attack any of my districts, just show up with a full corp team and it is yours to have.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:47:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:After spending the week with PC corporation representatives (The PC Think Tank), the issue of ringers has come up quite often. The consensus seems to be that ringers should exist, but not be risk free and as prevalant as now, particularly at the expense of homegrown talent.
More to follow later. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2716923#post2716923Personally I do not think there is a real fix aside from locking entry to PC to only alliance members who have been in the alliance for at least 3 days. As long as ringers are allowed to enter PC they will be used to farm PC. It is going to be even worse once the new update comes out and passive rewards for districts return. that thread is riddled with hypocrisy. the ceo who is complaining about ringers uses ringers becuase he can't no field a full 16.
http://imgur.com/WMFI9uh,MWNz9IQ#0
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Posted - 2015.05.04 05:00:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers. I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps. So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me. On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players. I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC. That's why I would be ok with ringers only on the occasion that for some reason you can't field a full squad. That's happened to my Corp once. I would love to see more corps involved in PC. there's so many corps out there but when I go into the PC on my neocom, I don't see that many. With multiple corps owning anywhere from 5-20 districts. That's insane Lag and modded controller's keep alot of players out of PC, and playing this game in general. They go hand in hand, and guys would just rather not deal with nerds who can't take an L, just avoid playing PC. Alot of guys (who use them) hate for me to say it, but it gives them a clear cut advantage in the game, because while your just praying for the match, and the lag, to end. They're having a field day kicking the handicap kids that can't defend themselves lol! I'm sure they'll all come running saying that the modded pads aren't the problem, but CCP Rattati and co. have run themselves ragged fixing everything they come across. The game still suffers from unexplained lag. Just saying it is not modded controllers. i have been on both sides of the wars in molden heath winning and losing, and it is never even slightly the reason.
Lag yes, lag is large factor.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 05:10:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote: I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps.
So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me.
What easy isk days? where do you get easy isk from while corp hopping in PC corps, do you know something i don't know because I and everyone i know been losing millions in PC.
Things did change, you use to be able to go isk positive in PC matches and then pay out systems changed. Majority of the corps currently in PC are dying or don't want to PC anymore.
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Posted - 2015.05.04 06:07:00 -
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from what i understand you won't be able to farm districts unless you have members. in order to sell clones under the new system you must use command points, you get command points from your corp members completing missions. If you have 1 member in your corp and you own 50 districts you will only be able to farm maybe 1 or half of 1 because that one member can only get so much command points in one day by himself.
So you can use ringers all you want(Doubt that will happen) but it won't mean you can profit off of all your districts unless you actually have a lot of active members in your corp.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Aidualc wrote:Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it.
Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp.
14 Districts :O !?
Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers...
Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!!
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Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism.
Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems.
#NoRingersAllowed
#NoHashtagsInForumDusts
So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç 1/3 so far...
*goes to message shep*
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:40:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:I'd like to see the price of clone packs go down, and the number of clones in the pack raised.
If a new corp wants to get into PC currently they have to join an alliance, and pray someone wants to spare a district.
If the prices varied:
10 mil for 150 clones 20 mil for 200 clones 50 mil for 350 clones
Something to that effect would let mercs without districts go for their's without having to tax their corps' member-less.
I gaurantee, even if they got obliterated, you'd see more effort out of corps, and this would mean more battles! Ringers aren't necessarily the problem so much as the lack of fights available.
Also, instead of 3 and out on battles to take a district. Make it more of a campaign with the factional warfare "move the chains" type of setup. Forcing corps to win a large number of battles over time, or win a smaller amount by epic proportion! You have to take control of the district. The map would show owned areas, and contested areas being fought over. Corps, like negative-feedback, could then sign up to fight for the side that pays the most, but would have to pledge temporary loyalty. A small number of ringers per battle would be allowed, 4 to 5 at the most, and that corp who paid for ringers would still have to actually be there to fight.
The fact that mercs aren't always online to help because "life and sh*t" eww, wouldn't hinder their ability to hold an area. Where they may lose ground on a tuesday, they can make a comeback on a wednesday. While this could help them hold, sustained attacks could weaken their ability to gain passive resources significantly, since you should have to have a 65-100% control to receive resources. So there's no "we'll just field outer heaven every saturday" bs?!
On the flipside, for the attacking corps, weakening resources produced weakens control over all, and the chains move faster in your corps favor! This also works for raiding! You could send lower level players in the corp on raids in different areas, while the vets fight larger scale battles elsewhere. Making it worth the time invested in rookies when it comes to tactics training.
On this alone so much fun could be had, but noooo! We wanna spend all our time beating the same guys..... with the same guys?!
Let's give CCP our best ideas, and make the game we love better. To the ringers! You're not losing much either way this ends up regardless. sounds like a lot of restrictions for something that is suppose to be a sand box.
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:46:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once I almost forgot we are in GD, thanks for reminding me....
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Posted - 2015.05.04 20:58:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Why don't we take each of our corps and attack all of PE' s districts at the same Time? Then there own members will have to fight for once What a magnificent idea. All Corps in Dust launch a full 24/7 none stop attack on Panda Express 14 districts. We'll see how long they last. >:)
Hey its PC right so lets bring some justice. No More Districts to the Isk Hungry PE Corporations. If you see that weakling Kubos in Gal FW = Kill him along with his miserable brandon the idiot. I seriously cannot tell if you a trolling or truly think that will work....
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Posted - 2015.05.04 21:38:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC...
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:41:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again?
No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC... Enlighten me! What would fix the current situation? Skins lol? Passive isk? I mean I'm all for making it better so i'm, unlike most, willing to hear out literally all ideas. The current system sucks! What about the PC 3.0 thread they made with all those ideas are pretty nice.
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Posted - 2015.05.05 19:49:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Earned. We beat SS If I had a dollar for every time I beat Ss in PC, I would not know how much money I've earned because I got no clue who SS is....
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Posted - 2015.05.05 23:04:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Dust User wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. For the record, DUST USER, there's literally the smallest group of players that care about PC. IT'S CRAP, and we're trying our d*mned best to help! We started playing it because YOU bunch of crybabies complained that no one played! Well no f*cking wonder! Look around! Look at you! F*cking laughable! Proud to be a troll lmao! Changes should have been made years ago, no right now...
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:41:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I've been in PCs where the entire enemy team was not from that corp. honestly I don't really care If i could field 16 ringers i would....
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:45:00 -
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Anyways, ringers are inherently bad for your corp not for the game. you want to personally push for less ringers and more full corp teams that is how you get better.
0uter heaven cap ac Random gunz Planet express Last hope
All these corps own the most land in molden heath. All top tier corps got there by using their own players and not ringer teams. If you think ringer teams rule PC you are provably wrong. Ringers help smaller corps fill up there team so they don't have to go in short.
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