Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one.

After spending the week with PC corporation representatives (The PC Think Tank), the issue of ringers has come up quite often. The consensus seems to be that ringers should exist, but not be risk free and as prevalant as now, particularly at the expense of homegrown talent.

More to follow later.

Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty.

Nope, thats completely flawed. You are a Corp trying to take the land to further your success in New Eden. This is why we are known as mercs. We fight for the isk, not the loyalty.

I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period.

What's the point of having Corp vs Corp if half the people don't even belong to it. It might as well be group A vs group B. The only circumstance I would find this acceptable is if the Corp has a shortage of mercs at the time of the PC

Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one.

That sounds like a decent idea

Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers.

I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps.

So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me.

On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players.

I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC.

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Personally I do not think there is a real fix aside from locking entry to PC to only alliance members who have been in the alliance for at least 3 days.

As long as ringers are allowed to enter PC they will be used to farm PC. It is going to be even worse once the new update comes out and passive rewards for districts return.

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Personally I do not think there is a real fix aside from locking entry to PC to only alliance members who have been in the alliance for at least 3 days.

As long as ringers are allowed to enter PC they will be used to farm PC. It is going to be even worse once the new update comes out and passive rewards for districts return.

I don't like how random people can fight for one player corp, and then another, without even being in the same alliance. Rattati had a good idea of not removing ringers, but instead formally contracting them to fight exclusively for a certain corporation for a set time period.

That's why I would be ok with ringers only on the occasion that for some reason you can't field a full squad. That's happened to my Corp once. I would love to see more corps involved in PC. there's so many corps out there but when I go into the PC on my neocom, I don't see that many. With multiple corps owning anywhere from 5-20 districts. That's insane

Lag and modded controller's keep alot of players out of PC, and playing this game in general. They go hand in hand, and guys would just rather not deal with nerds who can't take an L, just avoid playing PC.

Alot of guys (who use them) hate for me to say it, but it gives them a clear cut advantage in the game, because while your just praying for the match, and the lag, to end. They're having a field day kicking the handicap kids that can't defend themselves lol!

I'm sure they'll all come running saying that the modded pads aren't the problem, but CCP Rattati and co. have run themselves ragged fixing everything they come across. The game still suffers from unexplained lag.

Just saying

I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps.

So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me.

is PC going back to normal completely? Will you get 3 mil isk again for winning?

What's the point of having Corp vs Corp if half the people don't even belong to it. It might as well be group A vs group B. The only circumstance I would find this acceptable is if the Corp has a shortage of mercs at the time of the PC

from what i understand you won't be able to farm districts unless you have members. in order to sell clones under the new system you must use command points, you get command points from your corp members completing missions. If you have 1 member in your corp and you own 50 districts you will only be able to farm maybe 1 or half of 1 because that one member can only get so much command points in one day by himself.

So you can use ringers all you want(Doubt that will happen) but it won't mean you can profit off of all your districts unless you actually have a lot of active members in your corp.

What easy isk days? where do you get easy isk from while corp hopping in PC corps, do you know something i don't know because I and everyone i know been losing millions in PC.

Things did change, you use to be able to go isk positive in PC matches and then pay out systems changed. Majority of the corps currently in PC are dying or don't want to PC anymore.

Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one.