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Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 859	Posted - 2015.05.04 04:19:00 - [1] - Quote Panthrax Oblivion wrote: Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers. I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps. So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me. On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players. I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 862	Posted - 2015.05.04 04:53:00 - [2] - Quote Panthrax Oblivion wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Panthrax Oblivion wrote: Does anyone else not support this? I feel that people from your corp only should fight for your Corp. I've been in one battle where only 4 people were from the Corp we were attacking. It just doesn't seem right. It's Corp vs Corp, trying to find out which is the better one. Most of us, including CCP Rattati, agree with you. The small group of ringers, that try to capitalize on every PC fought, will not agree because the new changes will benefit mercs that stay with corp, and not corp hoppers. I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps. So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me. On the flipside to that though this is a video game, and if the team you're facing can't field a team that day, it's because they probably have jobs bro lol! We try to field full teams, and bring alliance to fill empty slots and roles. Not hiring any so-called good slayer (modded pad user) to carry us. If we lose so be it. Still gonna play the game,and have fun doing it. Doesn't mean we're not good, and most of the time we'll field fairly new players. I'd suggest you report to the think tank, and let CCP Rattati know exactly what you think of PC's current state, but do it with an open mind to the fact that EVERYONE, regardless of corp size, should be able to play PC. That's why I would be ok with ringers only on the occasion that for some reason you can't field a full squad. That's happened to my Corp once. I would love to see more corps involved in PC. there's so many corps out there but when I go into the PC on my neocom, I don't see that many. With multiple corps owning anywhere from 5-20 districts. That's insane Lag and modded controller's keep alot of players out of PC, and playing this game in general. They go hand in hand, and guys would just rather not deal with nerds who can't take an L, just avoid playing PC. Alot of guys (who use them) hate for me to say it, but it gives them a clear cut advantage in the game, because while your just praying for the match, and the lag, to end. They're having a field day kicking the handicap kids that can't defend themselves lol! I'm sure they'll all come running saying that the modded pads aren't the problem, but CCP Rattati and co. have run themselves ragged fixing everything they come across. The game still suffers from unexplained lag. Just saying "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 864	Posted - 2015.05.04 14:18:00 - [3] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: I saw a guy in local asking for 10 mil to run in any corp for a month lol! That's what we like to call prototype gear addiction. With what's being suggested in the PC think tank, alot of corp hoppers can see there easy isk days dwindling. They will be required to be in corp or alliance, and some of them have such bad reps that they won't get excepted into corps. So many are joining alliances and corps already that it's hilarious lol! Hopefully CCP Rattati realizes that he's on the right path by cracking down on exploitation. It's the only way to grow the playerbase, and really make money on this game. If nothing changes this game will die. Why these guys don't see that is beyond me. What easy isk days? where do you get easy isk from while corp hopping in PC corps, do you know something i don't know because I and everyone i know been losing millions in PC. Things did change, you use to be able to go isk positive in PC matches and then pay out systems changed. Majority of the corps currently in PC are dying or don't want to PC anymore. Payouts are crap now sure, but not too long ago guys were ringing 10-20 PC's a day. Same guys over and over?! No matter what team you fought the same guys showed up?! The monotony of it is stifling. Attack X corp, fight A group of ringers. Defend against X corp, defend against A group of ringers. Attack Y corp, same fcking group of ringers like you slapped their moms and made her call you daddy lol! I'll say it, and nothing against the kid, but for a solid month I couldn't fight a PC that didn't have kubo in it lol! Didn't matter who we were fighting?! Now I don't know much about corp hopping, but I know a bunch of corp hoppers. They only leave because the corp leadership cuts off they're isk intake. A strong 97%, after passive isk, countless PC's, wallets stolen, and all kinds of shady tactics, are still broke because they can't turn the proto off. I would definitely agree that PC isn't lucrative whatsoever right now, and mercs are fighting them now just to fight them. They've lost sight of their original reasons, and between butthurt and pride, are just going in against all logic and economical math. Yeah its fun sometimes, and I X up if I see my role needed too, but if you wanna get rich in dust simply don't play PC. Fight in the pubs and FW in bpos, and you'll be ridiculously rich in no time. As far as the modded pads go..... I don't know about you, but when they shoot at me my toon quite literally freezes in place?! The lag instantly becomes as thick as molasses. It's like I'm guarding home, and I get told to go to the next nearest point, not 150 meters away, and I walk into a wall all lag?! I instantly know there's one there, and I'm either forced to retreat or die. I got it, alot of you guys think it doesn't have an effect, and for some it may not. However, I literally can't retaliate, and that's not just PC either. I can instantly tell when I'm facing a group of guys with them. It's like we're moving in slow motion as they just pick us off. Even my speed tanked suits seem slow like I'm tanking armor. I wouldn't give two fcks, if that effect didn't happen, about guys using them. I'm not going to, but more power to those that do. As it stands now CCP is slowly isolating everything individually, and coming up with snake eyes for fixing lag.... "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 865	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:53:00 - [4] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Aidualc wrote: Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it. Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp. 14 Districts :O !? Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers... Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!! Smart Deploy: LA-RESISTENCIA Pendejitos COALICION LATINA EL Azteca Empire Inmortales LLC U-STARS ScReWeD uP InC El Imperio Hispano ELEGIDOS POR EVE. The Naughty Ninjas TRUE TEA BAGGERS Some Gave All Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism. Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems. #NoRingersAllowed #NoHashtagsInForumDusts So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç It's the inevitable outcome regardless lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 866	Posted - 2015.05.04 17:56:00 - [5] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Aidualc wrote: Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it. Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp. 14 Districts :O !? Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers... Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!! Smart Deploy: LA-RESISTENCIA Pendejitos COALICION LATINA EL Azteca Empire Inmortales LLC U-STARS ScReWeD uP InC El Imperio Hispano ELEGIDOS POR EVE. The Naughty Ninjas TRUE TEA BAGGERS Some Gave All Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism. Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems. #NoRingersAllowed #NoHashtagsInForumDusts So what you're saying is I should pick up PE,OH and Cap into our alliance? All 3..sounds good to me I'd rather Fight for than against friends..and since only alliance ringers will work =ƒÿç It's the inevitable outcome regardless lol! We created NF alliance for ringing purposes, we are a ringing alliance sure some corps want districts now but the rest don't we just want to ring..we were created for ringing now your basically trying to null our purpose. Personally I'd rather have another corp hold the districts and I'll do the fighting if needed..holding districts and needing 16 guys to want to PC isn't my thing I'd rather just ring. But honestly that might be the strongest alliance ever though, RND/NF/FA/Cap/OH/PE/NS, that'd definitely be up their with EoN..but fortunately for everyone else this isn't a thing That's what I mean. It's a thing, just not officially. Any corp that forms, and gets a district today, will fight the same guys repeatedly. The same corps not as often, but the same ringers most definitely. To the point where they can almost expect at the least a common 5 to 10 literally every time. With this going on it's no wonder we're not seeing more willing volunteers. Personally, I have no issues fighting anyone, be it on an even plain. In our current condition as a corp, if I'm honest, we'd be hard pressed to hold off too many. What I'd like to see in PC is tiers! The land can be broken down into different tiers of worth, and for large corps smaller, less lucrative areas, would not be worth their resources to attack. Smaller corps, however, could fight like cats and dogs for the same area as it carries value to them. Much more valuable areas would be worth the effort to top tier corps, but require more resources to take and maintain. This land will also be open to raids! There's so many opportunities that come with change, but fear of the unknown keeps us clinging to what was. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 866	Posted - 2015.05.04 17:57:00 - [6] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Aidualc wrote: Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it. Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp. 14 Districts :O !? Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers... Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!! Smart Deploy: LA-RESISTENCIA Pendejitos COALICION LATINA EL Azteca Empire Inmortales LLC U-STARS ScReWeD uP InC El Imperio Hispano ELEGIDOS POR EVE. The Naughty Ninjas TRUE TEA BAGGERS Some Gave All Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism. Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems. #NoRingersAllowed #NoHashtagsInForumDusts Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post He's hispanic..... "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 868	Posted - 2015.05.04 18:19:00 - [7] - Quote Xvos Reigns wrote: Aidualc wrote: Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it. Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp. 14 Districts :O !? Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers... Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!! Smart Deploy: LA-RESISTENCIA Pendejitos COALICION LATINA EL Azteca Empire Inmortales LLC U-STARS ScReWeD uP InC El Imperio Hispano ELEGIDOS POR EVE. The Naughty Ninjas TRUE TEA BAGGERS Some Gave All Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism. Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems. #NoRingersAllowed #NoHashtagsInForumDusts Go ** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach *** ..... He's hispanic..... I remember saying this once already?! To be fair, you've picked up some pretty formidable mercs as of late... Not pointing any fingers in any type of negative light, or anything. However, the point of this thread was to highlight the use of ringers. Tags mean nothing. I can pick up all of fatal absolution and outer heaven into corp, hypothetically, and come after all your districts. Would you not scream foul play, or would you say "D3ATH CARD" did it off the muscle? What all of us "vets" should be focusing on, more than anything, is player RETENTION! Not the fastest way to alienate an entire ethnic group of people because they speak spanish?! If we don't do our best as players to help CCP in the one area they.... don't fair so well in.... all these ideas are nothing. They'll be no one to "farm" playing the game before long if the current atmosphere continues. You can hate each other later. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 868	Posted - 2015.05.04 18:50:00 - [8] - Quote I'd like to see the price of clone packs go down, and the number of clones in the pack raised. If a new corp wants to get into PC currently they have to join an alliance, and pray someone wants to spare a district. If the prices varied: 10 mil for 150 clones 20 mil for 200 clones 50 mil for 350 clones Something to that effect would let mercs without districts go for there's without having to tax their corps member less. I gaurantee, even if they got obliterated, you'd see more effort out of corps, and this would mean more battles! Ringers aren't necessarily the problem so much as the lack of fights available. Also, instead of 3 and out on battles to take a district. Make it more of a campaign with the factional warfare "move the chains" type of setup. Forcing corps to win a large number of battles over time, or win a smaller amount by epic proportion! You have to take control of the district control. The map would shoe own areas, and contested areas being fought over. Corps, like negative-feedback, could then sign up to fight for the side that lays the most, but would have to pledge temporary loyalty. A small number of ringers per battle would be allowed, 4 to 5 at the most, and that corp who paid for ringers would still have to actually be there to fight. The fact that mercs aren't always online to help because "life and sh*t" eww, wouldn't hinder their ability to hold an area. Where they may lose ground on a tuesday, they can make a comeback on a wednesday. While this could help them hold, sustained attacks could weaken their ability to gain passive resources significantly, since you should have to have a 65-100% control to receive resources. So there's no "we'll just field outer heaven every saturday" bs?! On the flipside, for the attacking corps, weakening resources produced weakens control over all, and the chains move faster in your corps favor! This also works for raiding! You could send lower level players in the corp on raids in different areas, while the vets fight larger scale battles elsewhere. Making it worth the time invested in rookies when it comes to tactics training. On this alone so much fun could be had, but noooo! We wanna spend all our time beating the same guys..... with the same guys?! Let's give CCP our best ideas, and make the game we love better. To the ringers! You're not losing much either way this ends up regardless. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 868	Posted - 2015.05.04 18:54:00 - [9] - Quote Xvos Reigns wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Xvos Reigns wrote: Aidualc wrote: Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it. Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp. 14 Districts :O !? Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers... Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!! Smart Deploy: LA-RESISTENCIA Pendejitos COALICION LATINA EL Azteca Empire Inmortales LLC U-STARS ScReWeD uP InC El Imperio Hispano ELEGIDOS POR EVE. The Naughty Ninjas TRUE TEA BAGGERS Some Gave All Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism. Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems. #NoRingersAllowed #NoHashtagsInForumDusts Go ** yourself you uneducated uninformed prick....rust415 wants its coming don't worry. We earned those districts with hard work from a full 16 man team of PE. Tell top i want their land but yours will fall first. Welcome to myrtle beach * ..... He's hispanic..... I remember saying this once already?! To be fair, you've picked up some pretty formidable mercs as of late... Not pointing any fingers in any type of negative light, or anything. However, the point of this thread was to highlight the use of ringers. Tags mean nothing. I can pick up all of fatal absolution and outer heaven into corp, hypothetically, and come after all your districts. Would you not scream foul play, or would you say "D3ATH CARD" did it off the muscle? What all of us "vets" should be focusing on, more than anything, is player RETENTION! Not the fastest way to alienate an entire ethnic group of people because they speak spanish?! If we don't do our best as players to help CCP in the one area they.... don't fair so well in.... all these ideas are nothing. They'll be no one to "farm" playing the game before long if the current atmosphere continues. You can hate each other later. Frankly i would say good job. Then i would keep sending attacks utill i beat...complaing gets you nowhere...now practice is everything. I know its practice, we're talking bout practice....get gud scrub quite qqing nobody respects that ** Nobody, doesn't matter. The truth of the situation is apparent. Even you guys, if the tables were turned, could benefit from what I've proposed. You would, at the least, have the option to tell anyone to eat a d1ck. What I propose gives "The original planet express" minus ringers, the ability to take and hold ground On THEIR OWN! I think that's all anyone wants in the end. Hire ringers out of choice, not absolute necessity. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 869	Posted - 2015.05.04 19:20:00 - [10] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Lol this whole thread is corny. Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak... LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING. Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY. I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision. But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips. Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed. But you're all ringing for the smallest piece of the pie ever! If we give PC 2.0 a chance you could ring all day and night if you wanted, in different types of battles! However, if we run all the players off who ya gonna ring for? We must make PC better, and more lucrative, than the pubs. I'm all ears cuz ringing ain't doing it? "Anybody order chaos?"

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 874	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:18:00 - [11] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: I'd like to see the price of clone packs go down, and the number of clones in the pack raised. If a new corp wants to get into PC currently they have to join an alliance, and pray someone wants to spare a district. If the prices varied: 10 mil for 150 clones 20 mil for 200 clones 50 mil for 350 clones Something to that effect would let mercs without districts go for their's without having to tax their corps' member-less. I gaurantee, even if they got obliterated, you'd see more effort out of corps, and this would mean more battles! Ringers aren't necessarily the problem so much as the lack of fights available. Also, instead of 3 and out on battles to take a district. Make it more of a campaign with the factional warfare "move the chains" type of setup. Forcing corps to win a large number of battles over time, or win a smaller amount by epic proportion! You have to take control of the district. The map would show owned areas, and contested areas being fought over. Corps, like negative-feedback, could then sign up to fight for the side that pays the most, but would have to pledge temporary loyalty. A small number of ringers per battle would be allowed, 4 to 5 at the most, and that corp who paid for ringers would still have to actually be there to fight. The fact that mercs aren't always online to help because "life and sh*t" eww, wouldn't hinder their ability to hold an area. Where they may lose ground on a tuesday, they can make a comeback on a wednesday. While this could help them hold, sustained attacks could weaken their ability to gain passive resources significantly, since you should have to have a 65-100% control to receive resources. So there's no "we'll just field outer heaven every saturday" bs?! On the flipside, for the attacking corps, weakening resources produced weakens control over all, and the chains move faster in your corps favor! This also works for raiding! You could send lower level players in the corp on raids in different areas, while the vets fight larger scale battles elsewhere. Making it worth the time invested in rookies when it comes to tactics training. On this alone so much fun could be had, but noooo! We wanna spend all our time beating the same guys..... with the same guys?! Let's give CCP our best ideas, and make the game we love better. To the ringers! You're not losing much either way this ends up regardless. sounds like a lot of restrictions for something that is suppose to be a sand box. Restrictions? I don't live in new eden. This isn't my job, and I have a real one. This just gives both sides a chance to function effectively, and I don't have to contact mercs from around the world to neckbeard for PC's?! If we wanted to become a strictly raiding corp we could! If we wanted to attack districts for training we could without it costing 50 mil! If we wanted to just fight on Thursday through Saturday on our districts we could. There are no restrictions here. The current system, however, has been ridiculously restricting forever. Eve pilots can ONLY drop OB's, only the top 16 can fight in corp endeavors, corps can only retain revenue from tax, etc. The current system is not appealing to new players at all! They're not even appealing to most vets! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 878	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:16:00 - [12] - Quote So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 880	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:56:00 - [13] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again? No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC... Enlighten me! What would fix the current situation? Skins lol? Passive isk? I mean I'm all for making it better so i'm, unlike most, willing to hear out literally all ideas. The current system sucks! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 880	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:58:00 - [14] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Panthrax Oblivion wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Aidualc wrote: Ringers Sucks... if a corp doesn't have many players for district defense they don't worth it. Example: Pianet Express yeap pianet with i, because Planet (with l) already have it a EVE corp. 14 Districts :O !? Team A: Gand cubo and company... best players... good players... take off a distric it's ok, the game's rule but if somebody attack pianet.... they send only a Team B... with Random Gunz - Capital Adquisition and Outer Haven Ringers... Maybe could be right but... THERE ARE NOT IN THERE ALLIANCE !!! Smart Deploy: LA-RESISTENCIA Pendejitos COALICION LATINA EL Azteca Empire Inmortales LLC U-STARS ScReWeD uP InC El Imperio Hispano ELEGIDOS POR EVE. The Naughty Ninjas TRUE TEA BAGGERS Some Gave All Pianet got 14 districts using ringers, xploids and broken mecanism. Planetary Conquest 2.0 will be the panacea for this problems. #NoRingersAllowed #NoHashtagsInForumDusts Planet Express - 1 LKC's Grammar - 0 Lawls have been farmed during the making of this post Yes, making fun of someone who's first language isn't English. How hilarious More like making fun of pure stupidity seeing Kubos name in game reads "Grand Master Kubo" not gand cubo....... That "grand master" part didn't make you guys ask ANY questions? Just saying "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 882	Posted - 2015.05.04 23:51:00 - [15] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: So apparently we're negating all efforts to improve PC for neckbearding and forum thugging? Lag wins PC currently. That's not an opinion, but a fact that we can all agree on. So why are we spending so much time arguing over kills that we're not 100% sure we even made, again? No we negating all your efforts to improve PC, because they would not improve PC... Enlighten me! What would fix the current situation? Skins lol? Passive isk? I mean I'm all for making it better so i'm, unlike most, willing to hear out literally all ideas. The current system sucks! What about the PC 3.0 thread they made with all those ideas are pretty nice. You referring to the think tank, or another thread entirely? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 882	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:06:00 - [16] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: There should be mercenaries Obviously the entire team should not be ringers but ringers should exist. If ringers are gone then I might as well join an alliance and permanently ring for them along with everyone else. Form a blue donut and harm PC even more, that is what this alliance only garbage idea is. Either A, let ringers stay but limit how many ringers can be on a team which I proposed to Ratati a while ago. or B, have most ringers who are close friends join alliances thus leading to the current situation but with tags. Except they cannot ring at all which starts leading towards a blue donut of corps. Looking at the tags of the people being anti ringing, your idea harms you badly. Currently you can get ringers but if your idea comes out then you will fight ringers even more because they will then have the tags of the alliance you are fighting. Oh and you would not be able to get good ringers too because the good ringers ring for friends or because of boredom, not people who QQ often. If ringing is gone or this contract crap happens then expect the giant alliances that hold everything to occur. After all, you are forcing everyone to choose a side which is against the concept of the game and even Eve. It's easy for me to apply to any already beast corp, but then who would you guys ring against? What you're saying is the "care-bear" mentality is the problem? I get what you're saying for smaller corps like ours, but that won't necessarily change regardless of the outcome. We fight them now already just like that?! What would you suggest that would actually change this? In your words what would be the best thing for smaller corps that haven't "got gud" yet? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 885	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:25:00 - [17] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: There should be mercenaries Obviously the entire team should not be ringers but ringers should exist. If ringers are gone then I might as well join an alliance and permanently ring for them along with everyone else. Form a blue donut and harm PC even more, that is what this alliance only garbage idea is. Either A, let ringers stay but limit how many ringers can be on a team which I proposed to Ratati a while ago. or B, have most ringers who are close friends join alliances thus leading to the current situation but with tags. Except they cannot ring at all which starts leading towards a blue donut of corps. Looking at the tags of the people being anti ringing, your idea harms you badly. Currently you can get ringers but if your idea comes out then you will fight ringers even more because they will then have the tags of the alliance you are fighting. Oh and you would not be able to get good ringers too because the good ringers ring for friends or because of boredom, not people who QQ often. If ringing is gone or this contract crap happens then expect the giant alliances that hold everything to occur. After all, you are forcing everyone to choose a side which is against the concept of the game and even Eve. It's easy for me to apply to any already beast corp, but then who would you guys ring against? What you're saying is the "care-bear" mentality is the problem? I get what you're saying for smaller corps like ours, but that won't necessarily change regardless of the outcome. We fight them now already just like that?! What would you suggest that would actually change this? In your words what would be the best thing for smaller corps that haven't "got gud" yet? Currently, ringers ring for whoever they want. Limiting that forces them to choose a side which buffs heavily whoever gets the ringers while harming everyone else who does not get them. I proposed something to Ratati about a system that limits how many people can be fielded. Up to 16 corp members can be in it, only around 8 alliance members, and only like 3 ringers. So the most non corp teams would have 3 ringers, 8 alliance, and 5 corp. Good ringers will still have business, an alliance can help a lot, and the corp who the PC belongs to cannot rely on the other two groups to do all the work because 5 corp members will be in it and if they do not do much, that is 5 people being deadweight. I can agree with this, but make it a total of 8 ringers in total per team, be it alliance or out and out ringers. A max of 8 corp must be in regardless. 8 alliance and 3 ringers is 11 total other than corp players. That's a team carry. At the least, in the beginning, a corp should be required to bring a minimum of 8 players. Remember, no one said ringers couldn't run raids :) "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 887	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:16:00 - [18] - Quote Dust User wrote: Panthrax Oblivion wrote: How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 891	Posted - 2015.05.05 22:19:00 - [19] - Quote Dust User wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Dust User wrote: Panthrax Oblivion wrote: How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. Honor? I'll admit you..... almost struck a nerve boy! You video game nerd you know NOTHING of HONOR! Even in a video game you're name means "aw fck this fcking troll"?! Why don't you keep on with your Dust514 PC trolling elsewhere, and let the rest of us actually fix the game huh? Don't you dare mention that word to me again! You don't fcking know me, but I know your type you sad fck! Punks like you don't know when to quit smh?! Clearly the only one who cares anything about the neckbearding required to play PC currently, is you! Everyone else, even your mates, agree that it needs some serious change, but you waste your time as you always have, compensating! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 893	Posted - 2015.05.05 22:52:00 - [20] - Quote Dust User wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Dust User wrote: Panthrax Oblivion wrote: How can a Corp feel proud of the districts they own if they didn't even earn them themselves Did you earn your way into PC or did Cap Acq give you a district? Does the war room not have a big enough audience, or are you just ignored there too lol? You are obviously upset there are no threads in there named after you. Don't worry, I'll send some honor your way soon enough. For the record, DUST USER, there's literally the smallest group of players that care about PC. IT'S CRAP, and we're trying our dmned best to help! We started playing it because YOU bunch of crybabies complained that no one played! Well no fcking wonder! Look around! Look at you! F*cking laughable! Proud to be a troll lmao! "Anybody order chaos?"

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 894	Posted - 2015.05.05 23:05:00 - [21] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Lol this whole thread is corny. Since the game began a group of players have always been whining about how ringing is cheating or disloyal or weak... LOL WE'RE FRICKIN MERCENARIES. WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS IS RINGING. Do you pick and choose your public contracts? No, you don't? EXACTLY. I get pissed when it's the top corps QQing about how ringing should be frowned upon or illegal because they're being greedy and hypocritical whether it's a conscious or unconscious decision. But when corps who aren't rich or neutral parties start to talk about it, it makes me wanna smack the Quafe outta those Kool-Aid sipping lips. Ringing IS a major part of the economy and will continue to be. Ringing open up doors for various types of jobs and niche. Defense contractors, contracted specialists, scavengers, etc. It's like trying to deny us a piece of our future due to some pompous sense of "honor" or sick greed. But you're all ringing for the smallest piece of the pie ever! If we give PC 2.0 a chance you could ring all day and night if you wanted, in different types of battles! However, if we run all the players off who ya gonna ring for? We must make PC better, and more lucrative, than the pubs. I'm all ears cuz ringing ain't doing it? What does that have to do with what I just said? The elimination of free contract ringing =/= PC 2.0. Is that what we're calling it now? Free contracting? Why don't they sign a contract? Why AR they not bound to atleast attempt finishing the contract? Why does it just really resemble trolling more than ANYTHING ELSE? This whole, "EVE" we just here to lie and steal, mentality might be "fun" in eve, if you're a nerd?! Everyone else thinks it's just kinda slimy?! We're already doing contracting as mercs. I can even agree to let ringers ring all they want! Personally I really don't care, but dust needs new things for PC. "Anybody order chaos?"

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