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Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5997	Posted - 2015.04.01 14:25:00 - [91] - Quote Working as intended, IMHO. Stop whining that you actually die on occasion. It's an FPS, if you aren't dying, the game is broken. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Raven-747 Rogue Instincts Ashtar Federation 2	Posted - 2015.04.01 14:40:00 - [92] - Quote I think jlavs are are effective tool for you heavy mod tankers since you kill stuff like its too easy and then when you run out of those insane hardners and mods you escape to redline to recover. That is where JLavs come in to one hit tankers who do that. Nova knives blades are visible then why not the nanite injector needle?
OKK WORD Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.04.01 15:25:00 - [93] - Quote If your not prepared to lose it, then don't use it. Simple.
Outlaw OneZero Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1612	Posted - 2015.04.01 15:31:00 - [94] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Actually it costs around 40k Actually you can reduce it to 0 if you have the right assets. Call in BPO LAV, drive to supply depot. Switch to remote suit, drop all remotes on LAV front bumper. Switch to APEX logi suit. Get in and crash into an unsuspecting HAV. BOOM! Zero risk, high reward. I like the JLAV as a balancing tool, but the risk/reward is thrown off by BPOs. Hello, is this thing on?
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3155	Posted - 2015.04.01 16:32:00 - [95] - Quote Luther Mandrix wrote: Mary Sedillo wrote: With the introduction of tiers of tanks of ever increasing price, the JLAV is still too effective for the price. One person in a cheap lav loaded to the gills with remotes. Think about that. OHKO. This severely hurts vehicle operators who have invested millions of SP and ISK. Push on the point? Going good. AV is hurting you as par the course, then BOOM JLAV hits and you are done. How should it do that? Why is that right? It isn't. CCP needs to make it where friendly vehicles cannot have friendly REs on them. Problem fixed. LAV go boom ,had half its hp removed and has Res that you as a tanker can detonate.And your teams small arms fire can detonate the Res .I don't see a problem. You lose 3mil ISK in tanks in one match to the same person driving a jihad jeep around, then come on here and tell us how you feel about it. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3155	Posted - 2015.04.01 16:36:00 - [96] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Mary Sedillo wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Pay attention. Viable tactic. Working as intended. Allah Akbar Definitely not a valid tactic on the ISK ratio of your vehicles cost + suit vs tank and crew. I pay plenty of attention. Its how I faceroll most other tankers. But, do you play in a squad that will call out the jihad? Do you use a scanner and see the fuckton of remotes moving towards you? They made people have to get creative with jihad jeeps since the bandwidth change. This may be a tad bias but something has to kill those invincible madrugars, no? We don't always have the room for a scanner. It's usually me and Taka rolling around together, either me in his tank or we both have one. Neither of us can use a scanner because we can't lose an offensive or defensive module slot. I like railguns, despite how insanely buggy they can be. I obviously can't use a scanner, because I need to make my turret better with modules. Maybe we should start doing tank squads again. A missile, a railgun, 4 blasters. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Outlaw OneZero Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1612	Posted - 2015.04.01 16:52:00 - [97] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: You lose 3mil ISK in tanks in one match to the same person driving a jihad jeep around, then come on here and tell us how you feel about it. Why are you risking 3 mil in assets without proper infantry support to keep AV off of you? Hello, is this thing on?
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP 134	Posted - 2015.04.01 17:10:00 - [98] - Quote Outlaw OneZero wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: You lose 3mil ISK in tanks in one match to the same person driving a jihad jeep around, then come on here and tell us how you feel about it. Why are you risking 3 mil in assets without proper infantry support to keep AV off of you? Yeap... if you only "win" with a proto tanks... and you want a Indestructible asset... you are a BAD PLAYER... The Ar of War by Sun Tzu: Chapter 6: weak ponts and strong: http://suntzusaid.com/book/6 I see this... * IF the enemy spend 1.2M ISK for a tank, use a Cheapest - 0 isk Risk to blow to the smithereens ... War is unfair NEW EDEN TO. -- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3291	Posted - 2015.04.01 18:14:00 - [99] - Quote You may have an argument in terms of risk vs reward, what with blueprints being free and all. However the tactic itself is sound and should remain viable. We are clones, we do not need to have the same regard for life like most mortals. Only Isk / Resources are your limit. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 282	Posted - 2015.04.01 20:07:00 - [100] - Quote Now i want to go on a JLAV spree. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche

Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 433	Posted - 2015.04.01 20:21:00 - [101] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: You may have an argument in terms of risk vs reward, what with blueprints being free and all. However the tactic itself is sound and should remain viable. We are clones, we do not need to have the same regard for life like most mortals. Only Isk / Resources are your limit. Its ridiculous and needs to be removed or prices dropped. I've been around since Beta, and this **** is ridiculous. It is okay ONLY in games where you don't foot the bill for the vehicle.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17928	Posted - 2015.04.01 20:22:00 - [102] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: You may have an argument in terms of risk vs reward, what with blueprints being free and all. However the tactic itself is sound and should remain viable. We are clones, we do not need to have the same regard for life like most mortals. Only Isk / Resources are your limit. Except in many cases there is not ISK cost. BPO suit [Apex Minmatar] and BPO vehicle [Blood Raider Saga]. I'd be fine if players were investing ISK into their vehicle and suit but as it is it's a 0 ISK fit destroying a 1.2 Million ISK tank. Not saying it shouldn't happen but in this instance there is no risk on the JLAVer's part. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 433	Posted - 2015.04.01 20:24:00 - [103] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: You may have an argument in terms of risk vs reward, what with blueprints being free and all. However the tactic itself is sound and should remain viable. We are clones, we do not need to have the same regard for life like most mortals. Only Isk / Resources are your limit. Except in many cases there is not ISK cost. BPO suit [Apex Minmatar] and BPO vehicle [Blood Raider Saga]. I'd be fine if players were investing ISK into their vehicle and suit but as it is it's a 0 ISK fit destroying a 1.2 Million ISK tank. Not saying it shouldn't happen but in this instance there is no risk on the JLAVer's part. Indeed! I've been accumulating SP since release to get my tank where it is and I get popped like nothing by a no risk or isk tactic? Its ridiculous. Easy fix is make it where remotes won't stick on friendly vehicles.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 6382	Posted - 2015.04.01 20:25:00 - [104] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: With the introduction of tiers of tanks of ever increasing price, the JLAV is still too effective for the price. One person in a cheap lav loaded to the gills with remotes. Think about that. OHKO. This severely hurts vehicle operators who have invested millions of SP and ISK. Push on the point? Going good. AV is hurting you as par the course, then BOOM JLAV hits and you are done. How should it do that? Why is that right? It isn't. CCP needs to make it where friendly vehicles cannot have friendly REs on them. Problem fixed. Ah, Mary. How many years has it been? 3? 4? We've been around for ages. And for all the threads you've made - how many actually got resolved? lol n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Crimson Moon V 439	Posted - 2015.04.01 20:40:00 - [105] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: Now i want to go on a JLAV spree. Pretty much, threads like these only make people want to farm scrubby tanker tears. Lets be real here. You are only in a tank because you have no gun game outside of one. Yeah I'm talking to you scrub4thedead. Get wrecked in 1 vs 1's more scrub. I would expect some scrub from molon labe to post a river of tears like this. People have been crying about JLAV's since you could stick RE's to LAV's. Sorry but JLAV's are not going anywhere. Dare I say adapt or die. Or maybe just get over it. I doubt a scrub like you knows how to adapt. Maybe that's why you have to sit in a tank all day. Isn't molon labe considered one of the worst corps of all time. Join a real corp and get good fgt. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17931	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:20:00 - [106] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: Now i want to go on a JLAV spree. Pretty much, threads like these only make people want to farm scrubby tanker tears. Lets be real here. You are only in a tank because you have no gun game outside of one. Yeah I'm talking to you scrub4thedead. Get wrecked in 1 vs 1's more scrub. I would expect some scrub from molon labe to post a river of tears like this. People have been crying about JLAV's since you could stick RE's to LAV's. Sorry but JLAV's are not going anywhere. Dare I say adapt or die. Or maybe just get over it. I doubt a scrub like you knows how to adapt. Maybe that's why you have to sit in a tank all day. Isn't molon labe considered one of the worst corps of all time. Join a real corp and get good fgt. I'm a passable rifleman outside of my tank thank you very much. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 973	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:40:00 - [107] - Quote Since the tank changes, I've been hit by 0 Jlavs... I have destroyed many... Learn to be more aware, or failing that, look at the mini-map, one came full speed at the back of my tank while I was stationary, saw the dot coming at me on the map, moved forwards. If you move the same direction as the jeep, it can't explode on you, it will hit and just stop moving... Then you make some distance and turn your turret > Boom! When someone can't afford a tank, I'd rather they come at me with a JLAV and give me some fun, rather than pulling out swarms and av grenades.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 973	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:45:00 - [108] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I'd be fine if players were investing ISK into their vehicle and suit Is mine ok then? I put a turbo on my quafe Saga... And my suit costs about 3k, lol. If it cost more, it would require being harder to kill... Fact is Jihaad dies more easily than tank, if tanker is not bad.
Crimson Moon V 439	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:49:00 - [109] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: Now i want to go on a JLAV spree. Pretty much, threads like these only make people want to farm scrubby tanker tears. Lets be real here. You are only in a tank because you have no gun game outside of one. Yeah I'm talking to you scrub4thedead. Get wrecked in 1 vs 1's more scrub. I would expect some scrub from molon labe to post a river of tears like this. People have been crying about JLAV's since you could stick RE's to LAV's. Sorry but JLAV's are not going anywhere. Dare I say adapt or die. Or maybe just get over it. I doubt a scrub like you knows how to adapt. Maybe that's why you have to sit in a tank all day. Isn't molon labe considered one of the worst corps of all time. Join a real corp and get good fgt. I'm a passable rifleman outside of my tank thank you very much. Maybe you are. Most are garbage though. Have you ever blew up a tank and the driver jumps out and beats you in a gunfight? That has never happened to me. Not even once in all the time I have been playing this game. (Trust me its been to long time.) Most tankers have garbage gun game. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17933	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:49:00 - [110] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: True Adamance wrote: I'd be fine if players were investing ISK into their vehicle and suit Is mine ok then? I put a turbo on my quafe Saga... And my suit costs about 3k, lol. If it cost more, it would require being harder to kill... Fact is Jihaad dies more easily than tank, if tanker is not bad. That's not really and investment. I mean I hate JLAV's as they are almost too easy to use and they cost jack all to deploy, being an insanely high power tool with almost no cost, however I don't begrudge you guys for using it. If you do it's simply a reflection that I am doing my job so well you cannot deal with me conventionally. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 782	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:50:00 - [111] - Quote Agree with the OP. I tell you what. How about all tankers refuse to bring them out, and instead just all run around on cheap suits with remotes? See how you like it. The higher the price, the better it should perform. JLAV's are cheap, but uber effective, while pro tanks cost tons, but die instantly to JLAV's? "Anybody order chaos?"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17933	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:56:00 - [112] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: True Adamance wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: Now i want to go on a JLAV spree. Pretty much, threads like these only make people want to farm scrubby tanker tears. Lets be real here. You are only in a tank because you have no gun game outside of one. Yeah I'm talking to you scrub4thedead. Get wrecked in 1 vs 1's more scrub. I would expect some scrub from molon labe to post a river of tears like this. People have been crying about JLAV's since you could stick RE's to LAV's. Sorry but JLAV's are not going anywhere. Dare I say adapt or die. Or maybe just get over it. I doubt a scrub like you knows how to adapt. Maybe that's why you have to sit in a tank all day. Isn't molon labe considered one of the worst corps of all time. Join a real corp and get good fgt. I'm a passable rifleman outside of my tank thank you very much. Maybe you are. Most are garbage though. Have you ever blew up a tank and the driver jumps out and beats you in a gunfight? That has never happened to me. Not even once in all the time I have been playing this game. (Trust me its been to long time.) Most tankers have garbage gun game. I don't know about that. I know a great deal of pilots all of whom are more than capable of competitive ground games. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 973	Posted - 2015.04.01 21:57:00 - [113] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: True Adamance wrote: I'd be fine if players were investing ISK into their vehicle and suit Is mine ok then? I put a turbo on my quafe Saga... And my suit costs about 3k, lol. If it cost more, it would require being harder to kill... Fact is Jihaad dies more easily than tank, if tanker is not bad. That's not really and investment. I mean I hate JLAV's as they are almost too easy to use and they cost jack all to deploy, being an insanely high power tool with almost no cost, however I don't begrudge you guys for using it. If you do it's simply a reflection that I am doing my job so well you cannot deal with me conventionally. I mostly only bring them out to deal with redzone tanks, rep stacked Madrugas and the occasional scrubs jumping out with AV grenades/swarms (because they clearly shouldn't have had the tank in the first place.) Don't get me wrong, in a fair fight, I'd rather go tank v tank... Pretty much the only Missile Gunnlogi out there at the moment... DELBOY where are you? We need to show these Blaster Maddi's who's boss, lol.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 435	Posted - 2015.04.01 22:19:00 - [114] - Quote Such hate and ignorance from those who know not the role. As for my 'gun game' its fine. I skilled into vehicles early though, and that is my role. I am pretty sure you are a scrub at vehicles. As for missile tanks. Good stuff. I like using rails a bit more. Fun against all tanks! JLAV needs to get its tankiness back so it doesn't pop the moment it scrapes a tank. As for the guy who says that he has gotten popped by 0 JLAVs, good on ya. I pay attention just fine. I also run a crew and push. Attention is limited and JLAV can come in as you push. Unless you want to redline and sit and wait the whole match for the JLAV which is not something I wish to do no matter how many throw out the term 'scrub' or 'Red Line Camper' at me. Yes, adapt or die is great in concept, but again it comes down to something that is free to next-to-free able to OHKO a tank. I kill many of them, but he only has to get lucky once and still come out positive ISK-wise in a match which I think is wrong. As for the corp I am in, I do not represent them. I just play with people here.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 435	Posted - 2015.04.01 22:22:00 - [115] - Quote I am an olde guard tanker. I am one of the best around. I have great awareness. I often spot LAVs. I kill them as well. But jeez you have to go 100 percent anti-JLAV the moment they hit the field the whole game because he really can just do them the whole time and be just fine!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17935	Posted - 2015.04.01 22:24:00 - [116] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: True Adamance wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: True Adamance wrote: I'd be fine if players were investing ISK into their vehicle and suit Is mine ok then? I put a turbo on my quafe Saga... And my suit costs about 3k, lol. If it cost more, it would require being harder to kill... Fact is Jihaad dies more easily than tank, if tanker is not bad. That's not really and investment. I mean I hate JLAV's as they are almost too easy to use and they cost jack all to deploy, being an insanely high power tool with almost no cost, however I don't begrudge you guys for using it. If you do it's simply a reflection that I am doing my job so well you cannot deal with me conventionally. I mostly only bring them out to deal with redzone tanks, rep stacked Madrugas and the occasional scrubs jumping out with AV grenades/swarms (because they clearly shouldn't have had the tank in the first place.) Don't get me wrong, in a fair fight, I'd rather go tank v tank... Pretty much the only Missile Gunnlogi out there at the moment... DELBOY where are you? We need to show these Blaster Maddi's who's boss, lol. Missile Tanks are suprisingly nasty. Popped by one a week or two ago in a much shorter time that I was led to expect by the general consensus of players I'd talked to. Still I am a Blaster Tanker from the old days. I liked blaster duels because it was all about determination, module activation, and positioning. No guts, No glory. Would change though if Amarr HAV and turrets were in the game though. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet General Tso's Alliance 205	Posted - 2015.04.01 22:27:00 - [117] - Quote It's a tank hater world sadly.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 435	Posted - 2015.04.01 22:34:00 - [118] - Quote People just want to lone wolf tanks easy style. Make us moving WP pinatas.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 520	Posted - 2015.04.01 22:46:00 - [119] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Luther Mandrix wrote: Mary Sedillo wrote: With the introduction of tiers of tanks of ever increasing price, the JLAV is still too effective for the price. One person in a cheap lav loaded to the gills with remotes. Think about that. OHKO. This severely hurts vehicle operators who have invested millions of SP and ISK. Push on the point? Going good. AV is hurting you as par the course, then BOOM JLAV hits and you are done. How should it do that? Why is that right? It isn't. CCP needs to make it where friendly vehicles cannot have friendly REs on them. Problem fixed. LAV go boom ,had half its hp removed and has Res that you as a tanker can detonate.And your teams small arms fire can detonate the Res .I don't see a problem. You lose 3mil ISK in tanks in one match to the same person driving a jihad jeep around, then come on here and tell us how you feel about it. As a former Red Star. PC player, I like the tears. Spkr I know you have lots of tricks and ISK up your sleeves, quit crying.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 974	Posted - 2015.04.01 22:50:00 - [120] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Would change though if Amarr HAV and turrets were in the game though. Laser turret... My Gunnlogi may crap itself, or I might... or both. Mary Sedillo wrote: But jeez you have to go 100 percent anti-JLAV the moment they hit the field the whole game because he really can just do them the whole time and be just fine! In all fairness, when we bring out tanks, the whole enemy team has to focus on killing the tanks for the rest of the match. I don't have lots of isk, but because I don't die often I can afford to spam them in the matches that I need to (though that's only when there's tanks on the other team.) Mary Sedillo wrote: JLAV needs to get its tankiness back so it doesn't pop the moment it scrapes a tank. It's the same as it's always been, speed and hp is nothing, it's all down to if they get a clean hit or not. If anything it's harder now, because 1 swarmer and the LAV is dead, no matter what. Mary Sedillo wrote: As for missile tanks. Good stuff. I like using rails a bit more. Fun against all tanks! I used to avoid using rails as much as possible, they were just too easy... But since they've been nerfed a few times and with the new 2 shots unless your mods are up, it's definitely more balanced and more fun. But missiles > everything. People always complained about them being useless vs shields, but that was all part of the fun. Took a lot of reloading and positioning to take it down without dieing. True Adamance wrote: Missile Tanks are suprisingly nasty. Popped by one a week or two ago in a much shorter time that I was led to expect by the general consensus of players I'd talked to. This is why I'm not sure they need a buff anymore, took a break from spamming my rail Gunni just to retest them & have found them to be a lot stronger than I remembered. Also the slower shot speed, means you don't get them flying off in all direction when you spray... Sniped some poor buggers off the top of a watertank the other day (I'd feel bad if I didn't know he had a forge gun.) Still, could be the tank builds, no idea what they're running beyond hull names and turret types.



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