If you're paying attention to RDVs and LAVs then no, this won't happen.

If you get killed by a JLAV it's because you're stationary farming infantry.

Don't.

That's BS...

It takes forever to set one up, in one game you can at most have 3 or 4 attempts, maybe 1 more depending on how the match is going.

I also find it hard to believe that three gunners can't hit one LAV... Maybe you're just bad? Switch a small rail for a blaster, the RoF will make hitting a remote easy least.

The tanker QQ is strong here. Stop your complaining and get some skill. They are LOUD, if you can't hear it you must be hard of hearing. Get gud or go home skrubs.

So the cheapest tanks cost 1.4 million?

If not, I suggest you run a cheaper tank.

It seems we are again at a point where only tanks can counter other tanks, and I can't say I am going to care much about the efficacy of JJs until AV can do something other than take out LAVs and DS.

You make it sounds like this so called "JLAV" is an entirely different vehicle of its own=ƒÿé=ƒÿé

Oh, so we have to use multiple people to counter just 1 tank, and hope that they don't have hardeners on and kill us all before we can even make a dent. I am sure a team can afford to commit all those resources.

Sounds balanced...

Do people even use Gunnlogis? I was under the impression they were inferior and not used.

It seems to me that we are currently going through 1.7 all over again minus the super HAV speed.

If I see your name on screen, I will know what I need to pull out.

Lol! Someone from Molon Labe talking about ethics, and fairness, and how they feel someone has ruined a Public Match for them.

if this is April fools, i fell for it good!

Any JLAV that speeds that far in to the redline to kill the tank your camping in (you call that pushing a point) deserves to get the kill because it was a one way trip either way.

This all makes sense now.

I took out my proto swarms the other day, and they were completely useless against HAV. They took, at max 10% of the tank's HP.

HAV have to LET AV kill them now.

I don't want to have it easy, but I do want a legitimate chance to at least force an HAV from an area, which I can no longer even begin to be able to do.

Now, they just turn on hardeners, have all the time in the world to drive around to whatever angle suits them best, and shoot me down without any real effort or skill.

Even PLCs and AV nades don't have a chance unless someone happens to be lazy or completely incompetent.

The "wave of opportunity" has become invincibility, unless you commit half your team to fight one tanker, or have a tank yourself.

Pay attention. Viable tactic. Working as intended. Allah Akbar

So, I thought for a while before responding to this thread.

Being someone who used to jihaad on a regular basis, I may be a little bias here, but even before Echo, Jihaad Jeeps were incredibly easy to kill. the only reason you did not kill one was because, well frankly you were dumb enough to not keep an eye on your surroundings. yess this way is cost effective,and works for about one mill sp, but it is also very difficult to get good at. it takes a fair few hours to get your first decent tanker, and the same tactics never work twice. You are wrong to say that it should be removed. It may do astronomical damage, but so do your tanks. coupled with the fact your tank helps your K/d'r, jihaading RUINS it. look at mine, I'm sitting at around 0.37 and thats up since I started.

My advice to you: don't cry on the forums, it doesn't help anyone; file a support ticket if you want to, but for the sake of pete go cry elsewhere, otherwise you are just asking for trolls to come out from under their bridges.

o7. Sned T. Dead.

oh yeah one more thing, check the teams before spawning in, if you see a well known jihaader: DON'T USE A BLOODY TANK!

You know whats cheap?? Staying inthe redline with a railgun tank and b*tching about jlav-¦s when its the only thing you can do to kill people like you sooooo yea DEAL WITH IT

You know whats cheap?? Staying inthe redline with a railgun tank and b*tching about jlav-¦s when its the only thing you can do to kill people like you sooooo yea DEAL WITH IT

Really one mother fudging av guy in a militia suit to much for your proto tank? Awwwwwwww i feel bad 4 u

Sure bro whatever helps you sleep at night

First off. It isn't out of "nowhere". We drive up to you from far away and you have plenty of time to pick us off as we approach. Second, it is only 7 REs, not 12. Third, infantry shooting us as we drive around kills us just as fast as a tank shooting us, and they see us lot's more than you realize. Finally, if you get blown up by jihad, you deserve it. There are many tankers that I have tried and tried and tried to kill jihadi-style. They popped me everytime. They are good tankers though, so you might just not be in their league.

First off. It isn't out of "nowhere". We drive up to you from far away and you have plenty of time to pick us off as we approach. Second, it is only 7 REs, not 12. Third, infantry shooting us as we drive around kills us just as fast as a tank shooting us, and they see us lot's more than you realize. Finally, if you get blown up by jihad, you deserve it. There are many tankers that I have tried and tried and tried to kill jihadi-style. They popped me everytime. They are good tankers though, so you might just not be in their league.

You say that now, but know this, I make it rain tears in my JLAV.

Honestly, with the new changes to LAVs, jihads are quite easy to defeat. You might try getting a gunner, they make short work of almost all LAVs.

You may have an argument in terms of risk vs reward, what with blueprints being free and all. However the tactic itself is sound and should remain viable.

We are clones, we do not need to have the same regard for life like most mortals. Only Isk / Resources are your limit.

Except in many cases there is not ISK cost.

BPO suit [Apex Minmatar] and BPO vehicle [Blood Raider Saga].

I'd be fine if players were investing ISK into their vehicle and suit but as it is it's a 0 ISK fit destroying a 1.2 Million ISK tank. Not saying it shouldn't happen but in this instance there is no risk on the JLAVer's part.

But when they bounce off, they take 0 damage... It's all about how you hit, not how much hp you have when you hit... The sloped back of the Madruga has had my LAV go off it like a ramp a few times, which when you land, causes the LAV to take damage, usually resulting in the death of the LAV.

So long as you never let them hit properly, they will never explode... 90% of JLAVers are terrible at driving and know nothing about tanking, they will drive right at you and make it easy.

the 10% that actually know they need to get round the side, they are the fun ones to play against... But they only have to do that, if you make them.


Failing that, I'm not sure on the maths, but the max remotes you can have on a LAV seem to be 5... Might be possible to stack enough hp to negate the blast, I had one crash right into the front of me while I was running from a swarmer, took out about 4k of shields leaving me on armour (still made the escape, thankfully... That protato hull cost a lot, lol.)



Either way, I'm sorry if some people hate it, but I personally enjoy it and would hate to see it removed from the game. Tanks and JLAVs are fun...

Also without JLAV's I could never drive my SAGA-II at a tank to make it squirm away, lol... Tanks always assume Jihaad.

MUST RESIST URGE TO. . . .TROLL







You're just mad mclovin made you his *****.



Well I tried.

Thanks for recognizing me, a couple things before I never come back to this thread
1.I 100% made you my ***** and will when I see you in pubs
2.?????
3.Make tears
4.I fit 23 Re's with no help from my team soooo yall don't know the true way of Allah

the difference in this situation is that the game is sooo bugged that you cannot see the flight path of tossed REs half of the time. Also JLAV involves placing REs not frisbeeing them. I dislike the chucking of REs but not for the risk/reward reason. Only because you dont see the RE properly.

First, get good.
Then cry ,because you are a ***** kid with your parents using small turrets and don't forget, real tankers do 1v1. I hope that these RE have opened your anus, cry baby cry.

I prefer the old school "tank alone" before sh!tty hotfixes, always i kill with my own balls, not with puzzies "friends" like yours.

or you can adapt, and become a stronger player for it. The best JLAV is a two man team. One on the map spotting and the other driving

read the edit....MATE