So the cheapest tanks cost 1.4 million?

If not, I suggest you run a cheaper tank.

It seems we are again at a point where only tanks can counter other tanks, and I can't say I am going to care much about the efficacy of JJs until AV can do something other than take out LAVs and DS.

I take it McLovin' has never run into you?

Plasma plus AV nades vs Gunnlogis are good.

Forge gun with Swarm Launcher support vs Madrugars are good.

Use teamwork vs proto tanks.

Profit.

JLAVS too op

In many cases, yes. However, the nature of the JLAV is its sudden HUGE alpha damage at very low cost in relation to the tank. They need to remove the JLAV or lower prices on tanks.

You make it sounds like this so called "JLAV" is an entirely different vehicle of its own=ƒÿé=ƒÿé

Oh, so we have to use multiple people to counter just 1 tank, and hope that they don't have hardeners on and kill us all before we can even make a dent. I am sure a team can afford to commit all those resources.

Sounds balanced...

Do people even use Gunnlogis? I was under the impression they were inferior and not used.

It seems to me that we are currently going through 1.7 all over again minus the super HAV speed.

If I see your name on screen, I will know what I need to pull out.

Gunnlogi's are superior as team-platform tanks and are only perceived as inferior by those who Lone Wolf. But team Gunnlogi is quite useful in many instances, though I used Maddy for blaster role since it excels in that regard.

Anyways, Plasma Cannon+AV nades will do the trick v. Gunnlogi, and for Madrugars, it matters the build, but I find Proto Assault Forges are the way to go for most builds. Popular at the moment are low hp, double hardener, double repper, or even tri-repper, hardener, so slower AV has a difficulty.

I almost always run team platforms. By your logic, will you need to have always 3 AV to take me out, since you are obviously thinking 1 AV = Easymode kill on tank?

With the introduction of tiers of tanks of ever increasing price, the JLAV is still too effective for the price.

One person in a cheap lav loaded to the gills with remotes. Think about that.
OHKO.

This severely hurts vehicle operators who have invested millions of SP and ISK.
Push on the point? Going good. AV is hurting you as par the course, then BOOM
JLAV hits and you are done. How should it do that? Why is that right?

It isn't.

CCP needs to make it where friendly vehicles cannot have friendly REs on them.
Problem fixed.

Why is that right?

Lol! Someone from Molon Labe talking about ethics, and fairness, and how they feel someone has ruined a Public Match for them.

if this is April fools, i fell for it good!

Any JLAV that speeds that far in to the redline to kill the tank your camping in (you call that pushing a point) deserves to get the kill because it was a one way trip either way.

The tanker QQ is strong here. Stop your complaining and get some skill. They are LOUD, if you can't hear it you must be hard of hearing. Get gud or go home skrubs.

This all makes sense now.

I took out my proto swarms the other day, and they were completely useless against HAV. They took, at max 10% of the tank's HP.

HAV have to LET AV kill them now.

I don't want to have it easy, but I do want a legitimate chance to at least force an HAV from an area, which I can no longer even begin to be able to do.

Now, they just turn on hardeners, have all the time in the world to drive around to whatever angle suits them best, and shoot me down without any real effort or skill.

Even PLCs and AV nades don't have a chance unless someone happens to be lazy or completely incompetent.

The "wave of opportunity" has become invincibility, unless you commit half your team to fight one tanker, or have a tank yourself.

Pay attention. Viable tactic. Working as intended. Allah Akbar

So, I thought for a while before responding to this thread.

Being someone who used to jihaad on a regular basis, I may be a little bias here, but even before Echo, Jihaad Jeeps were incredibly easy to kill. the only reason you did not kill one was because, well frankly you were dumb enough to not keep an eye on your surroundings. yess this way is cost effective,and works for about one mill sp, but it is also very difficult to get good at. it takes a fair few hours to get your first decent tanker, and the same tactics never work twice. You are wrong to say that it should be removed. It may do astronomical damage, but so do your tanks. coupled with the fact your tank helps your K/d'r, jihaading RUINS it. look at mine, I'm sitting at around 0.37 and thats up since I started.

My advice to you: don't cry on the forums, it doesn't help anyone; file a support ticket if you want to, but for the sake of pete go cry elsewhere, otherwise you are just asking for trolls to come out from under their bridges.

o7. Sned T. Dead.

oh yeah one more thing, check the teams before spawning in, if you see a well known jihaader: DON'T USE A BLOODY TANK!

If you see a well known jihaader: DON'T USE A BLOODY TANK!

Batman shows us we don't have to be afraid of scum like you!

You know whats cheap?? Staying inthe redline with a railgun tank and b*tching about jlav-¦s when its the only thing you can do to kill people like you sooooo yea DEAL WITH IT

You know whats cheap?? Staying inthe redline with a railgun tank and b*tching about jlav-¦s when its the only thing you can do to kill people like you sooooo yea DEAL WITH IT

Again, I don't stay in the redline. I roam about the map and attack strategically.

People keep throwing this redline nonsense when they cannot get me after I stomp their faces.

Want to know when I take cover in the back? Read higher up in this post. Mostly it is ONLY when there is overwhelming AV or tanks on the field and I must be strategic.