PS4 sales as of Jan = 18.5 Million

PS3 sales as of Last May = 77.3 Million

If you think that PS4 has a larger player base, you need to learn some basic math.

While I support some form of Dust/Legion on the PS4, Dust can still be viable on the PS3. In fact, it was just recently announced that FFXI is JUST NOW finally going to have an end date. On the PS2.

This game still has a long life span given the player base, and many other parts of the world using older gen consoles.

Don' let your wants cloud real analysis.

I don't have a PS4. I have a desktop and a laptop that can play any PC game at optimal levels.

I just think the port to PS4 first is a better business decision.

Eventually consoles retire. After the PS4 will be the PS5, and so on. Each time we will have to jump the hurdle of porting to the next gen. Why do that when you can port to PC, that has existed and will exist for the foreseeable future, and be done with it? Why port to a console when CCP has been developing on PC for over a decade? Why port to a console when venues like Steam promote your game to massive markets of gamers? Bringing Dust 514 to a console at this point would be one of the least intelligent business decisions CCP could make.

my kdr is .59 LOL KDR isn't why I play. I play for character enhancement.

exactly. they would capture two different player bases.

Shouldn't we get a few more major issues solved first and then port the game to another platform?

Last week my friend came by my house, and I had been playing the game so it was still on my living room TV. He asked about it, I explained it a little, he seemed pretty interested, so since I dont care about my KDR and could afford the ISK of my friend playing a little, i let him play a match on my account.

He got fed up after 2 matches and said "dont you have any actual games, like COD or BF , something where you can actually play?"

its too much man. There is a huge learning curve just on the game mechanics. Shields vs Armor or Reps vs Armor or damage mods or this or that. Just building and using fits appropriately. Using a AR against a Caldari suit works alot differently than using a Rail rifle against it.

None of the other **** you do in other games works in this one. Even aiming is all relative. At one point my friend was trading fire with another guy behind cover, a proto guy. The ADV fitting i was letting him use can be successful, and my friend was actually close to killing the guy when 2 of his proto friends showed up and killed him.

It takes long enough as it is to learn the game. The community policy of wielding proto vs milita. it gives no time for people to learn how to use fittings, so they just get frustrated and quit.


How do you expect a PS4 port to work? Tons of people will join on opening day, make their way through the academy, and then proto squads will be waiting for them. After a few weeks it will be back to low population. Its not a sustainable system.


If you want a port tomorrow, people should focus on achieving growth on THIS platform today. Its not impossible, summer is coming up, alot of PS3s are hitting the secondary market, which means people without large game libraries will be buying them......

I couldn't get into warframe. I got into blacklight a lil bit, but chose to keep my ps3 just for dust.

How do you expect a PS4 port to work? Tons of people will join on opening day, make their way through the academy, and then proto squads will be waiting for them. After a few weeks it will be back to low population. Its not a sustainable system.

Blacklight is awesome... Specially when you start getting into customizing guns.

just saying...

PC makes more sense. On a console DUST is limited, can't run it's intended engine, lag and graphic issues abound. PC is limitless. Some games aren't for PC. This game is dying on a console. Just because a game has a player base on a console, doesn't mean squat. The playerbase know this game is dying numb nuts. I would say start thinking more, but your corp says it all.

I don't have a PS4. I have a desktop and a laptop that can play any PC game at optimal levels.

I just think the port to PS4 first is a better business decision.

again though. it comes down to the simple things like

Why would sony want DUST on the PS4 considering it was deemed a failure by most of the industry? The decision to put DUST on PS4 isn't just CCPs. they need licensing permission to use unreal Engine on the console and SOny have to allow them to publish it. we can all b**ch and whine about how awesome it might be to have DUST/Legion on the console but the truth is, is that in everyone elses but our eyes its a s**t game and only us few die hard fans stick with it.

the best move for CCP would be PC first where they can build the game with relative ease on a platform they're familiar with and which is simple to work with.

They have a very dedicated playerbase on EVE that would far exceed players on a console. Many of my EVE buddies either don't have a PS3/PS4 or wouldn't even dream of buying it becuase "PCmasterraceBS"

With being on PC CCP could put adverts in the EVE splash loader for DUST514/Legion that they get exclusive gear in both games if they sign up for free.

EVE players usually have multi monitor play so they can sit AFK mining on eve while playing DUST/Legion on another monitor. they don't need to mess about with another console.

Once they've built up a reasonable playerbase and many in the industry have forgotten the bad patch CCP had (DUST and World of darkness) they can appraoch Sony/MS with the PC version, show them what they've built and look at re-selling it to consoles in 2yrs time when they've had more chance get things running better between EVE and DUST/Legion.

again though. it comes down to the simple things like

Why would sony want DUST on the PS4 considering it was deemed a failure by most of the industry? The decision to put DUST on PS4 isn't just CCPs. they need licensing permission to use unreal Engine on the console and SOny have to allow them to publish it. we can all b**ch and whine about how awesome it might be to have DUST/Legion on the console but the truth is, is that in everyone elses but our eyes its a s**t game and only us few die hard fans stick with it.

the best move for CCP would be PC first where they can build the game with relative ease on a platform they're familiar with and which is simple to work with.

They have a very dedicated playerbase on EVE that would far exceed players on a console. Many of my EVE buddies either don't have a PS3/PS4 or wouldn't even dream of buying it becuase "PCmasterraceBS"

With being on PC CCP could put adverts in the EVE splash loader for DUST514/Legion that they get exclusive gear in both games if they sign up for free.

EVE players usually have multi monitor play so they can sit AFK mining on eve while playing DUST/Legion on another monitor. they don't need to mess about with another console.

Once they've built up a reasonable playerbase and many in the industry have forgotten the bad patch CCP had (DUST and World of darkness) they can appraoch Sony/MS with the PC version, show them what they've built and look at re-selling it to consoles in 2yrs time when they've had more chance get things running better between EVE and DUST/Legion.

The desperation some people have for a PC version of this game despite all logic is funny.

PC market is over saturated, it would have no success. PS has always been weak on the scifi shooter front, with Killzone front and center with mediocrity. There is a bigger market on PS4 for this game then there ever will be on PC.

And again, screw hackers. That alone is reason to never put this thing on PC. Hackers + F2P + slow reactionary GM force = dead game.

As for your question, why would Sony want it? Probably because it makes them money and they don't even have to maintain the game servers, as those are run by CCP. Sony doesn't care what people in "the industry" think. Doing business in the gaming industry isn't some elementary school social situation where a few people make snarky comments and you get kicked out of the clubhouse as a result. Money is what matters, and Dust has been making it.

PC is the most ideal scenario. It offers unparalleled options for development.
Once the edges have been ironed out and development has good momentum, THEN consoles are an option.
IMO, realistically, by the time DUST is ready to make a platform switch the PS4 may well be at the end of its lifecycle. We've been down that road once before.

This is the best way forward.

Dust is still in active development, and Sony being in the way of the release approval process is slowing that development down.

PC port for a 1 year sprint, then a PS4 port once the game is more feature-filled and stable.

DUST also has WarFrame to compete with.


What I'm saying is. DUST WONT MAKE IT ON PS4.