DUST Search - SCOUTS ARE OP

Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

Or, in short, since every module that effects a stat that scout suits have an advantage in are % based, every buff to % based modules is a bigger buff to scouts than everyone else.

Add in their hitbox and extra equipment slot, what is a scouts weakness apart from it's EHP? Because every other suit has several by comparison.

What fits are OP for scouts?

Create one using proto fits so that we can see what you think is "OP".

Scouts haven't been good in a while.

If you think they are, its simply because you don't have enough situational awareness to realize that someones shooting you in the back, or play with your thumbs up your ass, and try to shoot them using your little toes.

Scouts don't need situational awareness as they have it passively on radar. As well as better stats in every way possible short of EHP.

And if you knew a thing about this game you'd know numbers and fit layouts don't tell you a thing about what is going on in game. Ask CCP, Ratatti himself has realized this.

get gud scrub

1. Detection EWAR on scouts has been severely nerfed. It is better in every way to have a Gal Logi instead for the following reasons:
a. Range>Scout
b. Precision>Scout
c. HP>Scout
d. See directionals, while scout can't
e. Non-buggy perma scan

2. 5% better biotics and 15% better eWAR while having ~30% of the HP of an assault seems completely legit to me. Id definitely rather have a 15% better bonus to the buggiest system short of melee hit detection and 5% more mobility than 30% more HP. (that was sarcasm)

3. Very true. This statement is also a counter argument to your above claims, and therefore I shall let you nullify your own points before I point out that this is the exact reason that scouts were castrated in the first place.

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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11136	Posted - 2015.03.13 04:38:00 - [31] - Quote If anything, it's not the scouts that benefit the most from all this. It's the heavies. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2549	Posted - 2015.03.13 04:45:00 - [32] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Archduke Ferd1nand wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Or, in short, since every module that effects a stat that scout suits have an advantage in are % based, every buff to % based modules is a bigger buff to scouts than everyone else. Add in their hitbox and extra equipment slot, what is a scouts weakness apart from it's EHP? Because every other suit has several by comparison. What fits are OP for scouts? Create one using proto fits so that we can see what you think is "OP". Scouts haven't been good in a while. If you think they are, its simply because you don't have enough situational awareness to realize that someones shooting you in the back, or play with your thumbs up your ass, and try to shoot them using your little toes. Scouts don't need situational awareness as they have it passively on radar. As well as better stats in every way possible short of EHP. And if you knew a thing about this game you'd know numbers and fit layouts don't tell you a thing about what is going on in game. Ask CCP, Ratatti himself has realized this. get gud scrub I agree Baal. Scouts are a case of many systems coming together to makes something that's significantly stronger than it looks on paper. On my alt of 40 million sp i have only two suits trained: GalScout and Mintenel. The GalScout performs as a very good scout scout, as a solid assault and as a make-do logi. The only suit it can't replace is the Heavy. I will add that i think part of the problem is the assault class itself, and by extension the basic medium frames. They've never received a proper treatment and the assault suit is not ye an assault suit. The ehp buff was expedient but did nothing to define a role for the suit. That will be only be accomplished when we have a rational set of role and racial based skill meant to make assaults, logis and basic frames what they should be. PSN: RationalSpark
HOLY PERFECTION Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 64	Posted - 2015.03.13 04:45:00 - [33] - Quote Could you explain more makin, because scouts have been a problem for a while now. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11140	Posted - 2015.03.13 04:59:00 - [34] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Could you explain more makin, because scouts have been a problem for a while now. EWAR for scouts has been nerfed a while due to the introduction concentric circles which affect scan precision based on distance along with a nerf the scan range in some way. Cloaking has been nerfed to include a firing delay after decloaking which effectively castrated shotgun-cloak users. Cloaks work against scouts within cities due to the blue shimmer effect and the contrasting dark areas that are all over the place especially in the orbital artillery outpost, gallente research facility, caldari production facility, and biomass facility. Also, the Minassault is almost able to marginalize the Minscout with its sprint speed and stamina recovery. Do you have any idea how embarrassing it is for me as a minja to have to struggle racing against a minassault? EDIT: PS: The backpedalling also affects the scouts. We can't backpedal as fast as we move forward either. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8443	Posted - 2015.03.13 05:01:00 - [35] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Or, in short, since every module that effects a stat that scout suits have an advantage in are % based, every buff to % based modules is a bigger buff to scouts than everyone else. Add in their hitbox and extra equipment slot, what is a scouts weakness apart from it's EHP? Because every other suit has several by comparison. Because EHP is such a horrible stat to have... And I am sure that new BPO module they just gave out for the event is much more conducive for shotgun and knife success than the HMGs... Quit acting like a poor heavy victim, you guys have been OP for longer than even scouts. Its never been scouts at the top of the OP PC kill lists, heavies had top 2. Don't be the Spkr of heavies. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7557	Posted - 2015.03.13 05:10:00 - [36] - Quote You guys couldn't be more wrong. Scout performance has taken quite the dive over the past few months, and I'm willing to bet their kill / spawn efficiency reaches UP levels this build. Scouts are out. They've been out. There's never been a better time to run Assault. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2141	Posted - 2015.03.13 05:21:00 - [37] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Could you explain more makin, because scouts have been a problem for a while now. Says who? You? Look how much attention this thread is getting. Remember the days when "Scouts are OP" threads would pull thousands of replies and tons of activity? It's a ghost town in here. Nobody cares. So either produce substantial evidence that scouts are overpowered, or be ignored. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2197	Posted - 2015.03.13 06:32:00 - [38] - Quote Archduke Ferd1nand wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Archduke Ferd1nand wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Or, in short, since every module that effects a stat that scout suits have an advantage in are % based, every buff to % based modules is a bigger buff to scouts than everyone else. Add in their hitbox and extra equipment slot, what is a scouts weakness apart from it's EHP? Because every other suit has several by comparison. What fits are OP for scouts? Create one using proto fits so that we can see what you think is "OP". Scouts haven't been good in a while. If you think they are, its simply because you don't have enough situational awareness to realize that someones shooting you in the back, or play with your thumbs up your ass, and try to shoot them using your little toes. Scouts don't need situational awareness as they have it passively on radar. As well as better stats in every way possible short of EHP. And if you knew a thing about this game you'd know numbers and fit layouts don't tell you a thing about what is going on in game. Ask CCP, Ratatti himself has realized this. get gud scrub 1. Detection EWAR on scouts has been severely nerfed. It is better in every way to have a Gal Logi instead for the following reasons: a. Range>Scout b. Precision>Scout c. HP>Scout d. See directionals, while scout can't e. Non-buggy perma scan 2. 5% better biotics and 15% better eWAR while having ~30% of the HP of an assault seems completely legit to me. Id definitely rather have a 15% better bonus to the buggiest system short of melee hit detection and 5% more mobility than 30% more HP. (that was sarcasm) 3. Very true. This statement is also a counter argument to your above claims, and therefore I shall let you nullify your own points before I point out that this is the exact reason that scouts were castrated in the first place. 1. Which is why you see Gallogis everywhere and scouts have disappeared.... Oh wait, that's right, the FoTM crowd still runs scouts 90% of the time. Hmmm..... Where's that Gallogi spam at anyway, should be here any second right? 2. ~30% of the HP or ~30% less HP? You said both and one is blatantly false. And having 30% less HP in exchange for half the hit box in a high latency tracking shooter is more than a fair trade-off. 3. There is a difference between supposing an advantage by looking at a suit and it's numbers on a website and verifiable facts seen in game over and over and the numbers that back that up. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2197	Posted - 2015.03.13 06:36:00 - [39] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Scouts are OP? You couldn't be more wrong. Scout performance has taken a dive over the past few months, and I'm willing to bet their kill / spawn efficiency reaches UP levels this build. Scouts are out. They've been out. There's never been a better time to run Assault. PS: Scout passives are garbage compared to GalLogi 21db scans. If you want something for realsies OP to fuss about, this one's your best bet. Negligible risk, massive reward. Spammed in PC. Pubstomp staple. Call me when Gallogi slayers start to swarm the field in as great of numbers as we see scouts, even now after the 'castration'. Then I might agree. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7559	Posted - 2015.03.13 06:38:00 - [40] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Scouts are OP? You couldn't be more wrong. Scout performance has taken a dive over the past few months, and I'm willing to bet their kill / spawn efficiency reaches UP levels this build. Scouts are out. They've been out. There's never been a better time to run Assault. PS: Scout passives are garbage compared to GalLogi 21db scans. If you want something for realsies OP to fuss about, this one's your best bet. Negligible risk, massive reward. Spammed in PC. Pubstomp staple. Call me when Gallogi slayers start to swarm the field in as great of numbers as we see scouts, even now after the 'castration'. Then I might agree. Click dropsuits: http://dust.thang.dk/market_historycategory.php Almost there already. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8449	Posted - 2015.03.13 06:39:00 - [41] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Scouts are OP? You couldn't be more wrong. Scout performance has taken a dive over the past few months, and I'm willing to bet their kill / spawn efficiency reaches UP levels this build. Scouts are out. They've been out. There's never been a better time to run Assault. PS: Scout passives are garbage compared to GalLogi 21db scans. If you want something for realsies OP to fuss about, this one's your best bet. Negligible risk, massive reward. Spammed in PC. Pubstomp staple. Call me when Gallogi slayers start to swarm the field in as great of numbers as we see scouts, even now after the 'castration'. Then I might agree. Right, because Gal Logi scans don't help their blind heavy team mates slay at all... But those 200 - 300 HP scouts that had to stack damps and be as blind as a 1500 HP heavy to cloak up and beat the scans, they are super OP because they are soooo hard to kill... Its almost like you play several months behind everyone else and don't see all the Assaults and Heavies on the maps. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2197	Posted - 2015.03.13 06:43:00 - [42] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Or, in short, since every module that effects a stat that scout suits have an advantage in are % based, every buff to % based modules is a bigger buff to scouts than everyone else. Add in their hitbox and extra equipment slot, what is a scouts weakness apart from it's EHP? Because every other suit has several by comparison. Because EHP is such a horrible stat to have... And I am sure that new BPO module they just gave out for the event is much more conducive for shotgun and knife success than the HMGs... Quit acting like a poor heavy victim, you guys have been OP for longer than even scouts. Its never been scouts at the top of the OP PC kill lists, heavies had top 2. Don't be the Spkr of heavies. Umm... I've... Wut? I use a heavy suit about as often as I Spkr tries to PLC snipe the enemy MCC from his red line. (Really HOPING that never happens anyway...) Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2197	Posted - 2015.03.13 06:57:00 - [43] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Scouts are OP? You couldn't be more wrong. Scout performance has taken a dive over the past few months, and I'm willing to bet their kill / spawn efficiency reaches UP levels this build. Scouts are out. They've been out. There's never been a better time to run Assault. PS: Scout passives are garbage compared to GalLogi 21db scans. If you want something for realsies OP to fuss about, this one's your best bet. Negligible risk, massive reward. Spammed in PC. Pubstomp staple. Call me when Gallogi slayers start to swarm the field in as great of numbers as we see scouts, even now after the 'castration'. Then I might agree. Right, because Gal Logi scans don't help their blind heavy team mates slay at all... But those 200 - 300 HP scouts that had to stack damps and be as blind as a 1500 HP heavy to cloak up and beat the scans, they are super OP because they are soooo hard to kill... Its almost like you play several months behind everyone else and don't see all the Assaults and Heavies on the maps. Helping teammates in a squad based game is bad? Ok... Was not aware of that. The reason Ewar on scouts was went after in the first place was because it was just as easy to help allies as it was to slay as a lone wolf, and when given that option people will more often than not do so. If it becomes an issue with the Gallogi the same will happen to it. As it is, there's no hint if that happening. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7559	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:03:00 - [44] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: The reason Ewar on scouts was went after in the first place was because it was just as easy to help allies as it was to slay as a lone wolf, and when given that option people will more often than not do so. If it becomes an issue with the Gallogi the same will happen to it. As it is, there's no hint if that happening. Lol. The EWAR Scouts we deemed "OP" were no where near as effective as today's GalLogi's. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2197	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:05:00 - [45] - Quote Also my only real point in this thread was that I'm sick of every buff to % based modules effecting scouts far more positively than every other suit because it just leads to more nerfs. The reason they do is because their base stats are all higher 'cept for HP. You guys were the ones recoiling against a factual statement. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2197	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:07:00 - [46] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: The reason Ewar on scouts was went after in the first place was because it was just as easy to help allies as it was to slay as a lone wolf, and when given that option people will more often than not do so. If it becomes an issue with the Gallogi the same will happen to it. As it is, there's no hint if that happening. Lol. The EWAR Scouts we deemed "OP" were no where near as effective as today's GalLogi's. And yet the flood of Gallogis has yet to arrive... Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7559	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:08:00 - [47] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Also my only real point in this thread was that I'm sick of every buff to % based modules effecting scouts far more positively than every other suit because it just leads to more nerfs. The reason they do is because their base stats are all higher 'cept for HP. Scouts are on the losing end of the Myo deal. Assaults jump just as high and get to keep their HP buffer. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7559	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:09:00 - [48] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: The reason Ewar on scouts was went after in the first place was because it was just as easy to help allies as it was to slay as a lone wolf, and when given that option people will more often than not do so. If it becomes an issue with the Gallogi the same will happen to it. As it is, there's no hint if that happening. Lol. The EWAR Scouts we deemed "OP" were no where near as effective as today's GalLogi's. And yet the flood of Gallogis has yet to arrive... You only need one GalLogi to permascan an entire Ambush match for an entire team. Why spam multiple units when you only need one? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2549	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:15:00 - [49] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: The reason Ewar on scouts was went after in the first place was because it was just as easy to help allies as it was to slay as a lone wolf, and when given that option people will more often than not do so. If it becomes an issue with the Gallogi the same will happen to it. As it is, there's no hint if that happening. Lol. The EWAR Scouts we deemed "OP" were no where near as effective as today's GalLogi's. Running solo with a precision mod as a scout meant that the wallhack was strong with scouts. PSN: RationalSpark
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7559	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:18:00 - [50] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: The reason Ewar on scouts was went after in the first place was because it was just as easy to help allies as it was to slay as a lone wolf, and when given that option people will more often than not do so. If it becomes an issue with the Gallogi the same will happen to it. As it is, there's no hint if that happening. Lol. The EWAR Scouts we deemed "OP" were no where near as effective as today's GalLogi's. Running solo with a precision mod as a scout meant that the wallhack was strong with scouts. Not after cloakblind. Which EWAR Scout loadout do you have in mind? Put some numbers on that wallhack for me, then let's compare it to today's GalLogi. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2549	Posted - 2015.03.13 10:01:00 - [51] - Quote Who uses cloaks on assault scouts? And a scout is a far better fighting suit than a logi. I'm running a damped precision GalScout as an assault and with the exception of squads with a dedicated logi i don't have to worry about much and can usually see the flow of combat around me. PSN: RationalSpark
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2170	Posted - 2015.03.13 11:28:00 - [52] - Quote Oh hi there! Assault gal logi here with two scanners and 650 armour, damage mods, boundless cr amd core locus Did I forget to mention my triage hives? Scouts aren't op anymore dudes but they ain't 1.4 weak. Infact they maybe just right (part from amarr that sad little chode) I can get the same number of kills in my scouts but generally with more deaths than my assault suits. Or my smexy gal logi I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 655	Posted - 2015.03.13 12:00:00 - [53] - Quote This really seems like a troll thread.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1014	Posted - 2015.03.13 12:10:00 - [54] - Quote ScR is OP says community. Min ass is OP says community. Scout is OP says community Swarms are OP says community Sentinel is OP says community HMG is OP says community. Hey.. you [community] have to decide. Whining about everything doesn't give anything. Just another trash thread on the list. Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7563	Posted - 2015.03.13 12:36:00 - [55] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: ScR is OP says community. Min ass is OP says community. Scout is OP says community Swarms are OP says community Sentinel is OP says community HMG is OP says community. Hey.. you [community] have to decide. Whining about everything doesn't give anything. Just another trash thread on the list. Balance doesn't just happen automatically. There are going to be overperforming and underperforming items to address until this machine becomes finely tuned. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1015	Posted - 2015.03.13 12:42:00 - [56] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Mejt0 wrote: ScR is OP says community. Min ass is OP says community. Scout is OP says community Swarms are OP says community Sentinel is OP says community HMG is OP says community. Hey.. you [community] have to decide. Whining about everything doesn't give anything. Just another trash thread on the list. Balance doesn't just happen automatically. There are going to be overperforming and underperforming items to address until this machine becomes finely tuned. Yes. But for them everyrhing OP. It's not just one or two thing. It's everything. When player is good uisng X and gets a big score.. then X is OP cuz it's totally not the player, right? [sarcasm] Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7563	Posted - 2015.03.13 13:18:00 - [57] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Who uses cloaks on assault scouts? And a scout is a far better fighting suit than a logi. I'm running a damped precision GalScout as an assault and with the exception of squads with a dedicated logi i don't have to worry about much and can usually see the flow of combat around me. An Assault Scout? Now I'm hesitant to believe you. Zatara assured us that these don't exist back when we were all discussing the reasons why to replace the high-risk / low-reward 250HP Recon Scouts with today's low-risk / high-reward GalLogis. "The real problem with Scouts has always been their 360 wallhacks ... Assault Lite doesn't even exist; that was all made up by the Barbershop ... the real problem is the EWAR Scout trifecta ... let's buff Logi scan range." I put three Creodron shotgun blasts into a GalLogi yesterday before he finally ran out of HP and died. Find for me one EWAR Scout ever who could've taken that kind of abuse. Find for me one EWAR Scout ever who could permascan an entire Ambush match at 21dB for his entire team. But I digress. Let's talk about these scans of yours on your Assault GalScout with 1 cPE: Inner / Middle / Outer 6m / 15m / 30m 13dB / 26 dB / 34 dB Your scans aren't much different from my GalAssault + 1 cPE: Inner / Middle / Outer 6m / 15m / 30m 16dB / 32 dB / 42 dB We both see what we look at. We both see whatever's active scanned. We both see dampened units within 5m. We both see undampened units within 15m. The one major difference is that between 15m and 30m, you'll pick up undampened Assaults and I won't. Oh wait ... I will too, because undampened Assaults are constantly active scanned. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8466	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:39:00 - [58] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Mejt0 wrote: ScR is OP says community. Min ass is OP says community. Scout is OP says community Swarms are OP says community Sentinel is OP says community HMG is OP says community. Hey.. you [community] have to decide. Whining about everything doesn't give anything. Just another trash thread on the list. Balance doesn't just happen automatically. There are going to be overperforming and underperforming items to address until this machine becomes finely tuned. Yes. But for them everyrhing OP. It's not just one or two thing. It's everything. When player is good uisng X and gets a big score.. then X is OP cuz it's totally not the player, right? [sarcasm] Community is always going to have a disagreement based upon individual biases, observations, and just plain human error/flaws. No one expects it to be the end all be all feedback channel, however, when you combine it with more objective data, they can be used in conjunction to come to a better balance. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3161	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:47:00 - [59] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Scouts are really overpowered. Actually, they have been since the cloak came out. Now... CCP adds steroids to the game! Shotgunners are jumping onto platforms 10 Meters high now. Shotguns are a two shot kill from 7-10 Meters away, and the hit box is messed up. Come on, really CCP. I am curious, what exactly is the purpose or role a scout has. Because it certainly cannot be killing everything on the game. If i wanted that i could go play COD. Pull on a clingy pair of Amarr scout undies, and report back... Because that rig is a penalty box. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3161	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:50:00 - [60] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Mejt0 wrote: ScR is OP says community. Min ass is OP says community. Scout is OP says community Swarms are OP says community Sentinel is OP says community HMG is OP says community. Hey.. you [community] have to decide. Whining about everything doesn't give anything. Just another trash thread on the list. Balance doesn't just happen automatically. There are going to be overperforming and underperforming items to address until this machine becomes finely tuned. You could have automatic balance on practically everything in the game overnight, if apples met apples. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.



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