DUST Search - [Alert] to claim Experimental Lab weapons you have to pay for them.

Lac Nokomis wrote:

JL3Eleven wrote:

Lac Nokomis wrote:

You have to spend components?

And why are we surprised?

Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game.

Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust.

So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong.

If you have to use the components you make everyday to unlock the "claim" items how much are you saving up to upgrade other subsystems and the warbarge?

I'm still learning how it all works. I get that we are all ****** people that will try to exploit something as soon as possible but seriously, think about it.

This warbarge thing is a pretty big aspect of the game. There is a lot of potential with it, i believe. That's why I don't spend any AUR on it.

My warbarge generates 400 comp. a day I think. This would mean that it would take 2 days to unlock what your talking about. Not counting Salvage comp. from battles, which I have gotten a fair amount of.

Makes sense to me.

You can't speed through all stages of the warbage since it's meant to be expanded on.

EDIT: It would take 2 days to have the components needed to unlock of gear your talking about, of course, this will be different for you since your warbarge is already upgraded way more than mine. Just an example.

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JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2051	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:45:00 - [1] - Quote So apparently I have 2 weapons ready to claim in the Experimental Lab. and to claim such weapons I have to pay 502 Warbarge Components or 1,506 AUR. That's right I had to pay to get my warbarge to level 5 to unlock the Experimental Lab. then I upgraded it to receive better items from it. Now I have to pay to receive the items or otherwise it stops producing items. WTF CCP? was my upgrading my warbarge to level 5 and then further upgrading my subsystems not good enough for you? I understand you need to make some money but this is total bullshit. I hope the CPM will address the situation with CCP that its few remaining players do not appreciate being scammed/strong armed like this. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
GrimzOvaHourz The Forgotten Spirits 49	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:48:00 - [2] - Quote That's ****** up
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 438	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:52:00 - [3] - Quote Never, I repeat never, spend money on Dust right after an update. G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2052	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:54:00 - [4] - Quote GrimzOvaHourz wrote: That's ****** up Just so people understand the components that you make with the mobile facility have to be used to get the weapons otherwise you cannot make more which leaves you unable to save them up to upgrade anything else unless you use AUR. Otherwise you save the components up and lose the production of new weapons while you save components unless you spend AUR. So you have to pick one and lose the other or spend more AUR to get what you should get for free. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:55:00 - [5] - Quote That's hilariously sad. Didn't Kain Spero get an AV grenade from the experimental lab? I suggest staying away from leveling up the experimental lab until Experimental Weapons are implemented (unless they already are and the paywall is so tall for being the third day of Warlords). Maybe CCP wasn't expecting players to upgrade so fast?
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 423	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:56:00 - [6] - Quote Oh well, another great idea form CCP. The warbarge is a total fluke. How is this a fun thing? It's stupid. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
G Felix Terminus Defense Force 491	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:01:00 - [7] - Quote Oh look, another thread pointing out a serious problem that doesn't have a blue tag on it. These threads are almost as common as strongboxes. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
axis alpha Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 577	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:04:00 - [8] - Quote Wow..... Ok now THATS going way overboard CCP. This is ridiculous. I would be livid if I had leveled to 5..... Good thing I didn't. CCP you gotta fix this. Its enough money to upgrade the ******* warbarge as it is..... I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 323	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:34:00 - [9] - Quote This is the response that was bound to happen considering that everything up until now has been paid for with the worthless Dust-ISK. Now that you actually have to wait to get something you are crying it up in the forums Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2053	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:40:00 - [10] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: This is the response that was bound to happen considering that everything up until now has been paid for with the worthless Dust-ISK. Now that you actually have to wait to get something you are crying it up in the forums You should reread it again. I said nothing about waiting. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.

1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy 266	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:52:00 - [11] - Quote Sht is all ScReWeD uP That's ScReWeD uP* *Just Rub One Out*
Lac Nokomis G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 59	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:55:00 - [12] - Quote You have to spend components? And why are we surprised? Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game. Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust. So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3128	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:59:00 - [13] - Quote Your warbarge produces components. You don't have to "pay" for jack ****. Shame on you OP.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2054	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:03:00 - [14] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: You have to spend components? And why are we surprised? Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game. Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust. So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong. If you have to use the components you make everyday to unlock the "claim" items how much are you saving up to upgrade other subsystems and the warbarge? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2054	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:06:00 - [15] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Your warbarge produces components. You don't have to "pay" for jack ****. Shame on you OP. So are you going not going to claim the weapons your subsystem produces so you can save up those components to upgrade other subsystems/warbarge? Or are you going to spend those components everyday to claim the weapons and not be able to save for upgrades? Simple question really. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 324	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:13:00 - [16] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: This is the response that was bound to happen considering that everything up until now has been paid for with the worthless Dust-ISK. Now that you actually have to wait to get something you are crying it up in the forums You should reread it again. I said nothing about waiting. wait or pay Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 201	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:16:00 - [17] - Quote i got 335 components for eom salvage also play as Strangeland Stranger (Gal), Gauntlett5487 (Cal), and Larlac Theest (Min)
Lac Nokomis G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 60	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:17:00 - [18] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: You have to spend components? And why are we surprised? Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game. Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust. So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong. If you have to use the components you make everyday to unlock the "claim" items how much are you saving up to upgrade other subsystems and the warbarge? I'm still learning how it all works. I get that we are all ****** people that will try to exploit something as soon as possible but seriously, think about it. This warbarge thing is a pretty big aspect of the game. There is a lot of potential with it, i believe. That's why I don't spend any AUR on it. My warbarge generates 400 comp. a day I think. This would mean that it would take 2 days to unlock what your talking about. Not counting Salvage comp. from battles, which I have gotten a fair amount of. Makes sense to me. You can't speed through all stages of the warbage since it's meant to be expanded on. EDIT: It would take 2 days to have the components needed to unlock of gear your talking about, of course, this will be different for you since your warbarge is already upgraded way more than mine. Just an example.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2055	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:18:00 - [19] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: This is the response that was bound to happen considering that everything up until now has been paid for with the worthless Dust-ISK. Now that you actually have to wait to get something you are crying it up in the forums You should reread it again. I said nothing about waiting. wait or pay But if you wait you are losing out on something you have already paid for. Are you willing to lose out on 3 months of Experimental gear (which you have already spent time or money on) to save up the components needed up make upgrades? All I'm saying is that we should not have to pay (with time or AUR) to "claim" the items. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 213	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:25:00 - [20] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: You have to spend components? And why are we surprised? Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game. Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust. So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong. If you have to use the components you make everyday to unlock the "claim" items how much are you saving up to upgrade other subsystems and the warbarge? You are probably saving up very little or nothing if you are claiming the weapons. That was probably the intended design. You are supposed to claim weapons sometimes and sometimes you choose to upgrade to warbarge. When the cap for weapons that can be claimed is reached, weapons are probably no longer produced, but the components are still produced daily for free and are claimed for free. You will get those weapons, it will just take longer if you don't pay for them. DUST was always designed to make you wait longer for everything if you don't pay. You would still get those things though. It would just take days or weeks instead of hours.

JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2059	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:29:00 - [21] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: You have to spend components? And why are we surprised? Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game. Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust. So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong. If you have to use the components you make everyday to unlock the "claim" items how much are you saving up to upgrade other subsystems and the warbarge? I'm still learning how it all works. I get that we are all ****** people that will try to exploit something as soon as possible but seriously, think about it. This warbarge thing is a pretty big aspect of the game. There is a lot of potential with it, i believe. That's why I don't spend any AUR on it. My warbarge generates 400 comp. a day I think. This would mean that it would take 2 days to unlock what your talking about. Not counting Salvage comp. from battles, which I have gotten a fair amount of. Makes sense to me. You can't speed through all stages of the warbage since it's meant to be expanded on. EDIT: It would take 2 days to have the components needed to unlock of gear your talking about, of course, this will be different for you since your warbarge is already upgraded way more than mine. Just an example. If you have spent zero AUR the most components you could produce a day is 200 (assuming you spent the free 300 on upgrading the mobile factory) without upgrading the warbarge first. To upgrade the WB you need 1,119 components. So sorry it would take you longer than 2 days to unlock the gear and even then you would be short 100+ components and losing out on newly produced weapons because you cannot claim them. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3129	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:34:00 - [22] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Your warbarge produces components. You don't have to "pay" for jack ****. Shame on you OP. So are you going not going to claim the weapons your subsystem produces so you can save up those components to upgrade other subsystems/warbarge? Or are you going to spend those components everyday to claim the weapons and not be able to save for upgrades? Simple question really. The choice is yours, obviously. The point still stands,... Neither one of them require you to pay for anything.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 638	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:35:00 - [23] - Quote Ya, I agree with ya OP. I mean -- ok the warbarge costs a LOT of Aur to upgrade fast. People are expected to get it slower. Fine. No problem on my end. But the factory produced it. Who the hell am I paying components? The dude who came and informed me it was finished? This one particular part of the warbarge is a full on insult imo. Actually, the first full on slap in the face I can ever recall in Dust tbh.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2059	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:36:00 - [24] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Your warbarge produces components. You don't have to "pay" for jack ****. Shame on you OP. So are you going not going to claim the weapons your subsystem produces so you can save up those components to upgrade other subsystems/warbarge? Or are you going to spend those components everyday to claim the weapons and not be able to save for upgrades? Simple question really. The choice is yours, obviously. The point still stands,... Neither one of them require you to pay for anything. Your paying with your time, and everyone knows time = money. Nothing is free. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3130	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:40:00 - [25] - Quote Well, that is certainly one way to interpret pay.... Not at all what you meant when you first typed it, but nice back peddle nonetheless.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2060	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:43:00 - [26] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Well, that is certainly one way to interpret pay.... Not at all what you meant when you first typed it, but nice back peddle nonetheless. Dodge more. Are you seriously fine with the fact you have already invested time or money to get to the point of even making the random item but now you have to pay with time or money to even receive it? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3147	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:11:00 - [27] - Quote If your WB is that upgraded, then it generates enough WB components to deal with that, a level 4 Factory generates 500 a day, you should have a level 5 or 6 for that level which will generate enough components to get your weapons as well as having excess. What you should be concerned about though is that base resale value is 15% for components, and that means doing the math WB Components are worth 6,000 ISK each, so your weapons cost you effectively 3,012,000 isk More importantly the WB doesn't tell you what the hell it gave you, and you have to figure it out yourself by looking at assets. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 811	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:14:00 - [28] - Quote It's not fked up. It's good. You have to choose, upgrade your warbarge (subsystems etc), claim guns etc. By this way it won't be exploited. And 10% bonus dmg for few of these experimental guns is a big thing. Loyal to State. > *Gallus in suo sterquilinio plurimum potest - the rooster can do plenty in his own dungheap*
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2061	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:15:00 - [29] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: If your WB is that upgraded, then it generates enough WB components to deal with that, a level 4 Factory generates 500 a day, you should have a six or seven for that level which will generate enough components to get your weapons as well as having excess. Why should I have to spend anything to "claim" something I already spent time or money on to make it in the first place? Do you go to McDonalds and after paying for the food at the register hand over more money from the person who gives it to you? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3147	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:18:00 - [30] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Why should I have to spend anything to "claim" something I already spent time or money on to make it in the first place? Do you go to McDonalds and after paying for the food at the register hand over more money from the person who gives it to you? No, but on the other hand after I spent money on a factory I usually still have to buy the raw components for the product. Actually, yes you actually have to do what you just said, the cost for the food is only a fraction of your crapyMccrapburger, you are actually having to pay the person behind the counter too, bad analogy. You basically bought the McDonalds' restaurant burger cooker and are mad you have to buy the burger patties. What's even more rediculous is that your McDonald's Resturant SHOULD be generating enough revenue (In this case, your Factory generating enough components) to pay for the burgers AND make a small profit. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire



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