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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2062
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:19:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:It's not fked up. It's good.
You have to choose, upgrade your warbarge (subsystems etc), claim guns etc. By this way it won't be exploited. And 10% bonus dmg for few of these experimental guns is a big thing.
In accounting don't they call it lost potential?
Can I haz ur ISK?
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2062
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:22:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Why should I have to spend anything to "claim" something I already spent time or money on to make it in the first place?
Do you go to McDonalds and after paying for the food at the register hand over more money from the person who gives it to you? No, but on the other hand after I spent money on a factory I usually still have to buy the raw components for the product. Actually, yes you actually have to do what you just said, the cost for the food is only a fraction of your crapyMccrapburger, you are actually having to pay the person behind the counter too, bad analogy. You basically bought the McDonalds' restaurant burger cooker and are mad you have to buy the burger patties. What's even more rediculous is that your McDonald's Resturant SHOULD be generating enough revenue (In this case, your Factory generating enough components) to pay for the burgers AND make a small profit.
lolwhat? So you pay the Cashier $6.50 and then pay the other staff person $1.50 just to hand it too you? (numbers guesstimated)
Can I haz ur ISK?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3131
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:23:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Well, that is certainly one way to interpret pay.... Not at all what you meant when you first typed it, but nice back peddle nonetheless. Dodge more. Are you seriously fine with the fact you have already invested time or money to get to the point of even making the random item but now you have to pay with time or money to even receive it?
Yes, I am.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3147
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:24:00 -
[34] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:lolwhat? So you pay the Cashier $6.50 and then pay the other staff person $1.50 just to hand it too you? (numbers guesstimated)
No, you pay the cashier 6.50; 2 for the burger, 2 for the cost of the electricity, 1 for the idiot manning the counter and the idiots in the back, and 1.5 for the idiots at HQ wanting profit.
The rest of my post still stands. You footed the cost of the resturant, it now needs you to pay for the burgers, but if you properly invested in the restaurant then it should be generating enough revenue to foot the cost of your burgers and have excess.
What level is your factory?
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
16612
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:25:00 -
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This is intended, you need to make difficult choices.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
823
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:26:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:This is the response that was bound to happen considering that everything up until now has been paid for with the worthless Dust-ISK. Now that you actually have to wait to get something you are crying it up in the forums You should reread it again. I said nothing about waiting. wait or pay But if you wait you are losing out on something you have already paid for. Are you willing to lose out on 3 months of Experimental gear (which you have already spent time or money on) to save up the components needed up make upgrades? All I'm saying is that we should not have to pay (with time or AUR) to "claim" the items. dude dont waste ur enerygy. this is dust forums, these guys wont bother to read the whole thread, use any form of logic and lack comprehension skills at an abnormally high rate.
LogicGäó
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2062
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:28:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices.
What's the difficult choice? Only the poor will struggle, just like now
Can I haz ur ISK?
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
2838
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:29:00 -
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You know this whole Warbarge thing is genius coming from a business standpoint.
These "pay to advance" freemium games have completely saturated the mobile gaming markets, but the vast majority of them can't compete with the likes of Clash of Clans and maybe a few others because of branding. The most difficult part of baiting people into freemium is establishing a brand that people recognize and will participate in.
CCP took their EVE Universe and casually applied that whole scheme, and now I'm sure that these big wig players with too much money to spend and a hard case of min/maxing aren't even phased about spending loads of money to max their spreadsheet out. And that in turn encourages more of the same. More strongboxes, more BPOs, "new and fun" ways to spend Aurum. All while core issues with the game are still ignored.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1247
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:31:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices.
Just fix the bugs.
Your team should be ashamed to release an update that is this shoddy.
No excuses. If you don't have the resources to do it correctly, then don't do it at all.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3147
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:31:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. What's the difficult choice? Only the poor will struggle, just like now
Again, what level is your WarBarge factory? Why did you not upgrade the factory, so your 2 OFFICER weapons a day are essentially free?
Officer Weapons.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
827
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:31:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. basically youre confirming warlords1.0 = pay 2 win. k
LogicGäó
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
283
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:32:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. Lol this is one of the least amount of likes I've ever seen Rattati get. This is one of the worst updates yet. You call a whole update by pasting a Gif of a Caldari ship upon a revolving jpg image ? Fail. Sorry. Not here.
True Amarr In Disguise
Pain is weakness leaving the body
Proto : ADS Pilot, Tanker Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
9480
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:34:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:You know this whole Warbarge thing is genius coming from a business standpoint. These "pay to advance" freemium games have completely saturated the mobile gaming markets, but the vast majority of them can't compete with the likes of Clash of Clans and maybe a few others because of branding. The most difficult part of baiting people into freemium is establishing a brand that people recognize and will participate in. CCP took their EVE Universe and casually applied that whole scheme, and now I'm sure that these big wig players with too much money to spend and a hard case of min/maxing aren't even phased about spending loads of money to max their spreadsheet out. And that in turn encourages more of the same. More strongboxes, more BPOs, "new and fun" ways to spend Aurum. All while core issues with the game are still ignored. South Park Explained it perfectly.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
~Democracy will win!
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2065
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:39:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. What's the difficult choice? Only the poor will struggle, just like now Again, what level is your WarBarge factory? Why did you not upgrade the factory, so your 2 OFFICER weapons a day are essentially free? Officer Weapons.
My WB is lvl 5. What's yours?
My mobile factory is lvl 3. What's yours? to upgrade to lvl 4 it cost 25,334 WBC or 75,000+ AUR
P.S. you only get 1 item a day. It's only a good chance it's officer a lvl 4.
P.S.S. it doesn't even tell you what you spent all your time or money on.
Edit: Just so you know 100,000 AUR = $50usd. Think how much lvl 5 will be lol.
Can I haz ur ISK?
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axis alpha
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
585
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:41:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. LOL WOW REALLY. I cannot believe what i just read.
Lol. Wow.
I mean ******* wow.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
335
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:49:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices.
It's not though, pay aur get the best weapons in the game
Unless you want those weapons a year from now when maybe you have components to spare
I will defend most of the aur items in the game but this falls on the wrong side of p2w
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Should Have Stayed Inside (the Tank)
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1078
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:51:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. That's not a choice. That's Just forget about the Warbarge, cause it ain't worth any time.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3147
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:01:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:My WB is lvl 5. What's yours? 5
JL3Eleven wrote:My mobile factory is lvl 3. What's yours? 4
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2067
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:03:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:My WB is lvl 5. What's yours? 5 JL3Eleven wrote:My mobile factory is lvl 3. What's yours? 4
Ouch. What about the others? I'm 3,2,3,2,3.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3147
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:11:00 -
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4,2,3,2,3 iirc that is Factory/Isk/Damag/SP/Lab
After looking at how the system works I came to the conclusion that I would be royally shafted if I don't get Factory to 5 or 6 as fast as I can, though given the insane cost I think my goal will end up looking like 5,3,4,3,4 and I doubt I'll ever reach any higher then that.
The ISK and SP modules are not terribly worthwhile if the player is not a newbie. The Lab is notable, but mainly the Weapon Damage Module (Armory, is it?) is what I have issue with in that it is so ridiculously important to have to be competitive, that is where the PW2 comes in imo.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
6012
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:11:00 -
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You don't get officer at L4 only experimental.
Only chance for officer is L5
I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
191
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:13:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:So apparently I have 2 weapons ready to claim in the Experimental Lab. and to claim such weapons I have to pay 502 Warbarge Components or 1,506 AUR. That's right I had to pay to get my warbarge to level 5 to unlock the Experimental Lab. then I upgraded it to receive better items from it. Now I have to pay to receive the items or otherwise it stops producing items.
WTF CCP? was my upgrading my warbarge to level 5 and then further upgrading my subsystems not good enough for you? I understand you need to make some money but this is total bullshit.
I hope the CPM will address the situation with CCP that its few remaining players do not appreciate being scammed/strong armed like this.
Edit: TLDR: We should not have to pay (with time or AUR) to receive items from the Experimental Lab. It's insulting. max out component production, you get 1 per day that way.
Choo Choo
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
191
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:19:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. What's the difficult choice? Only the poor will struggle, just like now Again, what level is your WarBarge factory? Why did you not upgrade the factory, so your 2 OFFICER weapons a day are essentially free? Officer Weapons. My WB is lvl 5. What's yours? My mobile factory is lvl 3. What's yours? to upgrade to lvl 4 it cost 25,334 WBC or 75,000+ AUR P.S. you only get 1 item a day. It's only a good chance it's officer a lvl 4. P.S.S. it doesn't even tell you what you spent all your time or money on. Edit: Just so you know 100,000 AUR = $50usd. Think how much lvl 5 will be lol. Defuq? Why sssooo much?
Choo Choo
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
138
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:20:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. So be it. I won't complain, however I will not spend Aurum to upgrade it to pay for more high level weaponry. |
Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
112
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:21:00 -
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It begins.
DUST is moving away from F2P.
Thank god for CCP Rattati!!
Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
610
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:26:00 -
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this is straight up pay to win |
1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy
267
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:30:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:It begins.
DUST is moving away from F2P.
Yep. Seems that way.
That's ScReWeD uP
Just Rub One Out
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
453
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:32:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. The choice of "To throw money at CCP or not to"
Doesn't seem like a fair choice to impose on people.
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
646
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:48:00 -
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wow i just made a thread earlier praising rattati for making components more salvage'ble...............
then I read this ****, its not p2w, however you might as well say "do i ever want to upgrade my warbarge again or....do i want to have a op weapon i may or may not be skilled into.
seriously rattati i understand it is to keep players from farming multible accounts (especially donating components to your corp) ,BUT all these restrictions has made what could have been a beautiful thing into a turd, and no matter how much you polish a turd its still gonna be a turd.
why not put up a thread requesting feedback on ways to remove these restrictions but also keep it from being farmed.(unless of course you don't care for your playerbase and wish to continue to turn dust into candy crush saga)
*feeling more disappointment then when strongboxes were released.*
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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SKAAR NOVA XIII
BLACKNOVA INITIATIVE
4
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:49:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. I guess I'll be waiting weeks to see what the warbarge is about lol. Not difficult at all lol
If I see you first...boom goes the dynamite!
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