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JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2051	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:45:00 - [1] - Quote So apparently I have 2 weapons ready to claim in the Experimental Lab. and to claim such weapons I have to pay 502 Warbarge Components or 1,506 AUR. That's right I had to pay to get my warbarge to level 5 to unlock the Experimental Lab. then I upgraded it to receive better items from it. Now I have to pay to receive the items or otherwise it stops producing items. WTF CCP? was my upgrading my warbarge to level 5 and then further upgrading my subsystems not good enough for you? I understand you need to make some money but this is total bullshit. I hope the CPM will address the situation with CCP that its few remaining players do not appreciate being scammed/strong armed like this. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2052	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:54:00 - [2] - Quote GrimzOvaHourz wrote: That's ****** up Just so people understand the components that you make with the mobile facility have to be used to get the weapons otherwise you cannot make more which leaves you unable to save them up to upgrade anything else unless you use AUR. Otherwise you save the components up and lose the production of new weapons while you save components unless you spend AUR. So you have to pick one and lose the other or spend more AUR to get what you should get for free. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2053	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:40:00 - [3] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: This is the response that was bound to happen considering that everything up until now has been paid for with the worthless Dust-ISK. Now that you actually have to wait to get something you are crying it up in the forums You should reread it again. I said nothing about waiting. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2054	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:03:00 - [4] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: You have to spend components? And why are we surprised? Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game. Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust. So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong. If you have to use the components you make everyday to unlock the "claim" items how much are you saving up to upgrade other subsystems and the warbarge? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2054	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:06:00 - [5] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Your warbarge produces components. You don't have to "pay" for jack ****. Shame on you OP. So are you going not going to claim the weapons your subsystem produces so you can save up those components to upgrade other subsystems/warbarge? Or are you going to spend those components everyday to claim the weapons and not be able to save for upgrades? Simple question really. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2055	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:18:00 - [6] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: This is the response that was bound to happen considering that everything up until now has been paid for with the worthless Dust-ISK. Now that you actually have to wait to get something you are crying it up in the forums You should reread it again. I said nothing about waiting. wait or pay But if you wait you are losing out on something you have already paid for. Are you willing to lose out on 3 months of Experimental gear (which you have already spent time or money on) to save up the components needed up make upgrades? All I'm saying is that we should not have to pay (with time or AUR) to "claim" the items. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2059	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:29:00 - [7] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: You have to spend components? And why are we surprised? Seriously. I don't spend aur on the Warbarge. I like taking my time. Thinking it through. Slow down with it. Use your money on a different aspect of the game. Oh yeah, and if you can use components, you don't have to use AUR. You can to get it faster with AUR, which has always been the plan. For almost everything in dust. So don't say you have to pay to get them. You are wrong. If you have to use the components you make everyday to unlock the "claim" items how much are you saving up to upgrade other subsystems and the warbarge? I'm still learning how it all works. I get that we are all ****** people that will try to exploit something as soon as possible but seriously, think about it. This warbarge thing is a pretty big aspect of the game. There is a lot of potential with it, i believe. That's why I don't spend any AUR on it. My warbarge generates 400 comp. a day I think. This would mean that it would take 2 days to unlock what your talking about. Not counting Salvage comp. from battles, which I have gotten a fair amount of. Makes sense to me. You can't speed through all stages of the warbage since it's meant to be expanded on. EDIT: It would take 2 days to have the components needed to unlock of gear your talking about, of course, this will be different for you since your warbarge is already upgraded way more than mine. Just an example. If you have spent zero AUR the most components you could produce a day is 200 (assuming you spent the free 300 on upgrading the mobile factory) without upgrading the warbarge first. To upgrade the WB you need 1,119 components. So sorry it would take you longer than 2 days to unlock the gear and even then you would be short 100+ components and losing out on newly produced weapons because you cannot claim them. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2059	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:36:00 - [8] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Your warbarge produces components. You don't have to "pay" for jack ****. Shame on you OP. So are you going not going to claim the weapons your subsystem produces so you can save up those components to upgrade other subsystems/warbarge? Or are you going to spend those components everyday to claim the weapons and not be able to save for upgrades? Simple question really. The choice is yours, obviously. The point still stands,... Neither one of them require you to pay for anything. Your paying with your time, and everyone knows time = money. Nothing is free. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2060	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:43:00 - [9] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Well, that is certainly one way to interpret pay.... Not at all what you meant when you first typed it, but nice back peddle nonetheless. Dodge more. Are you seriously fine with the fact you have already invested time or money to get to the point of even making the random item but now you have to pay with time or money to even receive it? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2061	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:15:00 - [10] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: If your WB is that upgraded, then it generates enough WB components to deal with that, a level 4 Factory generates 500 a day, you should have a six or seven for that level which will generate enough components to get your weapons as well as having excess. Why should I have to spend anything to "claim" something I already spent time or money on to make it in the first place? Do you go to McDonalds and after paying for the food at the register hand over more money from the person who gives it to you? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.

JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2062	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:19:00 - [11] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: It's not fked up. It's good. You have to choose, upgrade your warbarge (subsystems etc), claim guns etc. By this way it won't be exploited. And 10% bonus dmg for few of these experimental guns is a big thing. In accounting don't they call it lost potential? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2062	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:22:00 - [12] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Why should I have to spend anything to "claim" something I already spent time or money on to make it in the first place? Do you go to McDonalds and after paying for the food at the register hand over more money from the person who gives it to you? No, but on the other hand after I spent money on a factory I usually still have to buy the raw components for the product. Actually, yes you actually have to do what you just said, the cost for the food is only a fraction of your crapyMccrapburger, you are actually having to pay the person behind the counter too, bad analogy. You basically bought the McDonalds' restaurant burger cooker and are mad you have to buy the burger patties. What's even more rediculous is that your McDonald's Resturant SHOULD be generating enough revenue (In this case, your Factory generating enough components) to pay for the burgers AND make a small profit. lolwhat? So you pay the Cashier $6.50 and then pay the other staff person $1.50 just to hand it too you? (numbers guesstimated) Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2062	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:28:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. What's the difficult choice? Only the poor will struggle, just like now Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2065	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:39:00 - [14] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. What's the difficult choice? Only the poor will struggle, just like now Again, what level is your WarBarge factory? Why did you not upgrade the factory, so your 2 OFFICER weapons a day are essentially free? Officer Weapons. My WB is lvl 5. What's yours? My mobile factory is lvl 3. What's yours? to upgrade to lvl 4 it cost 25,334 WBC or 75,000+ AUR P.S. you only get 1 item a day. It's only a good chance it's officer a lvl 4. P.S.S. it doesn't even tell you what you spent all your time or money on. Edit: Just so you know 100,000 AUR = $50usd. Think how much lvl 5 will be lol. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2067	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:03:00 - [15] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: My WB is lvl 5. What's yours? 5 JL3Eleven wrote: My mobile factory is lvl 3. What's yours? 4 Ouch. What about the others? I'm 3,2,3,2,3. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2075	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:04:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Edit: TLDR: We should not have to pay (with time or AUR) to receive items from the Experimental Lab. It's insulting. Eve Online players have had to pay with time to get their Tech 2 stuff from the control towers which require fuel to operate, modules to defend it, and equipment to install. Unlike the Warbarge, the control towers are not given for free. They also required blueprints which require their own separate bill of materials to manufacture the final product. And they have been doing this for years. Skyrim players could forge jewelry from gold bars and gemstones. This is not Eve or Skyrim. They tried to link it but it failed, I'm sorry. As it is Dust is it's own game. Not even Eve players care about us. Get real. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2076	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:11:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Edit: TLDR: We should not have to pay (with time or AUR) to receive items from the Experimental Lab. It's insulting. Eve Online players have had to pay with time to get their Tech 2 stuff from the control towers which require fuel to operate, modules to defend it, and equipment to install. Unlike the Warbarge, the control towers are not given for free. They also required blueprints which require their own separate bill of materials to manufacture the final product. And they have been doing this for years. Skyrim players could forge jewelry from gold bars and gemstones. This is not Eve or Skyrim. They tried to link it but it failed, I'm sorry. As it is Dust is it's own game. Not even Eve players care about us. Get real. The only link we had was in FW and even that was diminished when we were giving access to warbarge strikes for FW. Nobody realizes that I'm above their heads in a ship when they have an orbital confirmation every three seconds and on top of that can use Orbitals in FW now. thankfully our FW chat is in tune with pilots wanting Gallente LP . All hail Gallente Master Race! Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2080	Posted - 2015.02.06 06:10:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. basically youre confirming warlords1.0 = pay 2 win. k Play for X days, get components from the factory and rewards, upgrade your mobile factory, play Y days, upgrade laboratory, play every day and the mobile factory will grant you officer weapons, random at first, per day. Where is the pay to win? This is literally free. You basically screwed yourself when you made the jump from lvl 3 to lvl 4; 25k wbc or 75k AUR. That's $35usd-$45usd just to upgrade or spend months collecting components and not "claiming" weapons. Would you spend $40usd just to upgrade anything? Without any real benefit of doing so other than bragging? lol get real. CPP is out of touch with the only people keeping it alive. Sad really :( Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2080	Posted - 2015.02.06 06:14:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: duster 35000 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. basically youre confirming warlords1.0 = pay 2 win. k Play for X days, get components from the factory and rewards, upgrade your mobile factory, play Y days, upgrade laboratory, play every day and the mobile factory will grant you officer weapons, random at first, per day. Where is the pay to win? This is literally free. Yes, but for F2P players, it takes so long just to level up to level 2, then it gets worse from there. I'd be fine if level 2 cost 500 components...later levels should be the ones that cost alot. The point here is that you don't have to pay AUR to level up. No one is forcing you to fork over the cash. It's a passive thing just like Eve's Planetary Interaction. It's like the hare and the tortoise. Both will reach the finish line, but at different times. Sorry but this is not eve. Not even close. The point is after a certain level its either pick something you paid for or upgrade. What do you not understand about that? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2080	Posted - 2015.02.06 06:23:00 - [20] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: Imp Smash wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. That -- doesn't quite make sense to me. Can you explain what difficult choice I am making? Save and upgrade or don't and keep claiming items. Or be Rich and have both ftw. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.

JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2081	Posted - 2015.02.06 06:57:00 - [21] - Quote 6 CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote: weapons should be free to claim i spent components to upgrade why would i use WARBARGE COMPONENTS to make WEAPONS it doesn't make any sense this^ Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.