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Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:20:00 - [1] - Quote i was just playing dust on the table top map, the enemy team got the objective first. they were all on top of the table top so i tried to go clear the roof. my first attempt failed, I tried to run to the ladder in the west side but when i went up top there was an Ak.0 assault guy that had a viziam SCR. i was using a Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR so i just tried to shoot him. he just charged his gun and he 1hit killed me. And it's the same thing EVERY TIME even when i'm a proto assault Ck.0 they still 3shot me. Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. I find that the RR has been nerfed too much and that the Caldari users have shut their mouth for too long about the SCR's. i think we are taking deaths not because we suck, but because you have no chance to kill a SCR user with a cal scout. Caldari needs a weapon other than the RR to be able to kill an Ak.0 assault user with something else than RE's or Shotguns. just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 333	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:22:00 - [2] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: i was just playing dust on the table top map, the enemy team got the objective first. they were all on top of the table top so i tried to go clear the roof. my first attempt failed, I tried to run to the ladder in the west side but when i went up top there was an Ak.0 assault guy that had a viziam SCR. i was using a Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR so i just tried to shoot him. he just charged his gun and he 1hit killed me. And it's the same thing EVERY TIME even when i'm a proto assault Ck.0 they still 3shot me. Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. I find that the RR has been nerfed too much and that the Caldari users have shut their mouth for too long about the SCR's. i think we are taking deaths not because we suck, but because you have no chance to kill a SCR user with a cal scout. Caldari needs a weapon other than the RR to be able to kill an Ak.0 assault user with something else than RE's or Shotguns. just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me. a SG, SCR, bolt pistol, sure there is more but can't be arsed to think for the scout. to be honest i think alot of CK0 assaults are regen built which is great. nothing like charging 50 sheilds per second after less than 2 seconds, obvious drawback scram will eat you! but yea it will not be by 1 bodyshot
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:25:00 - [3] - Quote But i'm talking about a caldari med range weapon that can 1shot gal/Ar scouts. ikr PLC's and SG's can but they're not med range weapons like the SCR wich makes caldari and minmatar at a disadvantage. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1839	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:27:00 - [4] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me. Bolt Pistol
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 333	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:28:00 - [5] - Quote what is your fit?
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:30:00 - [6] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:33:00 - [7] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: what is your fit? its alot more relevant that if its a basic or proto suit tbh i used a ck.0 scout with 493 eHP and got 1shotted by a viziam SCR user. i also used a ck.0 assault with a kalakiota RR with prof 4 n skill got fked up by SR/LR users in med range to CQC. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 327	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:34:00 - [8] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol Forgegun, sniper rifle . Stop complain about shield, what do i have to say about mass driver and flaylock? The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep".One of the few vehiculist remained in dust 514
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 333	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:36:00 - [9] - Quote its a one shot per click weapon so the only comparable weapon is the TAC AR as its the only other 1 shot per click rifle. TAC AR pro's no over heat considerably more shots before needing to stop for most people without a turbo contorller neg smaller clip no charge shot
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 333	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:38:00 - [10] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: taxi bastard wrote: what is your fit? its alot more relevant that if its a basic or proto suit tbh i used a ck.0 scout with 493 eHP and got 1shotted by a viziam SCR user. i also used a ck.0 assault with a kalakiota RR with prof 4 n skill got fked up by SR/LR users in med range to CQC. RR is ment to be the long range rifle, SCR at med range to cqc should beat a sheild RR user

Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:41:00 - [11] - Quote all the guns you named are guns 4 campers and noobs. minmatar has the CR and the HMG but they don't get ****** up by SCR's because they have equal amount of armour and shield + they have speed. the only thing we have as a caldari is 5 high slots and a reload bonus. a ck.0 assault user cannot kill an ak.0 assault with a SCR from med range. but an Ak.0 assault can equip a CR n kill most of the other dropsuits from med range but with a caldari you can't. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 71	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:42:00 - [12] - Quote ARR will absolutely destroy any armor suit.... its low key op as ****.. but I love it so no complaints here and amarr assaults weakness are....(all because we are slower than dirt) .I'll name them but I don't want to see you using against me but its Sniper, bolt pistol , mass driver ,ARR , Any and every heavy, shotgun scouts that aren't amarr lol....super strafing mk0 assaults and armor tanked gal assaults with breach and damage mods..... Emperor Gucci
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:49:00 - [13] - Quote All Gucci wrote: ARR will absolutely destroy any armor suit.... its low key op as ****.. but I love it so no complaints here and amarr assaults weakness are....(all because we are slower than dirt) .I'll name them but I don't want to see you using against me but its Sniper, bolt pistol , mass driver ,ARR , Any and every heavy, shotgun scouts that aren't amarr lol....super strafing mk0 assaults and armor tanked gal assaults with breach and damage mods..... Yes but caldari have no weapon that does +15% to armor and -15% to shield. the RR does +10% to armor and -10% to shield and that's what makes it weaker. the SCR also does more dmg and it is more accurate in most cases. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Nano Vyper 30	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:02:00 - [14] - Quote Git gud Don't click this Eye bleach
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:09:00 - [15] - Quote Nano Vyper wrote: Git gud Lol, you were the one crying like a ***** on the forums when the SCR's got nerfed and now you tell me to get good? lol go collect some isk kid and watch your Stats before you tell me to get good. sissy ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Nano Vyper 30	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:13:00 - [16] - Quote If you're going to attempt to make a comeback at least make sure what you're saying is true. Continue with your scrambler Q.Q cal scout. Of course a scrambler is going to take a dump on you, you're a cal scout. git gud or gtfo Don't click this Eye bleach
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5634	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:23:00 - [17] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol Assuming it registers. Plus, if they're tanked, they may survive up to 2 shots.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1839	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:27:00 - [18] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. Hmmm ... Sniper Rifle? That's Caldari tech, and it can definitely OHK Scouts at medium range. Even longer.
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1731	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:37:00 - [19] - Quote You could, oh, I dunno... use a weapon that's not Caldari. No one is going to stop you from putting on a CR, or you could just add a pair of Nova Knives to that fit. A BP or Breach ScP will also make short work on any suit if you can land the headshots. I want to punch.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2328	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:57:00 - [20] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. Bolt Pistols have longer damage than ARs. Shoot the Gallente/Amarr Scout in their noggin. Home at Last <3

Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14527	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:33:00 - [21] - Quote This thread amuses me greatly. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14527	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:34:00 - [22] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. Bolt Pistols have longer damage than ARs. Shoot the Gallente/Amarr Scout in their noggin. Actually their effective range is 4m less than the AR. Not sure about optimal ranges though, you might be right. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 285	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:38:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol Assuming it registers. Plus, if they're tanked, they may survive up to 2 shots. The shotgun has horrible hit detection but the bolt pistol is way worse. I was one on one with a Cal scout and did zero damage from my shot ISK Weekly Lottery Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 309	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:49:00 - [24] - Quote Scrambler and Laser rifles have some of the highest damage profiles in the game, some of the highest damage outputs in the game, and are intended to be used against the lowest EHP suits in the game. Im not sure why people think this is OK, these things need their profiles tightened up so that they dont make shield tanking impossible. People want to complain about combat rifles and rail rifles, but the fact is nobody stops running armor tank fittings when they see some guy with a CR or RR. Nobody gets the heck out of dodge when they see a CR or RR firing nearby. But thats exactly what I have to do if I see a scrambler user who I know can aim. I have to leave if Im shield tanked and go fight somewhere else if I dont want to get wrecked and lose a clone inside of human reaction time. Other weapons with this kind of damage have actual disadvantages. Shotgun has short range. Bolt pistol has very low fire rate, a charge up, and low ammo count/clip. Sniper rifle is virtually unusable in close combat. Plasma Cannon is difficult to hit with and has one shot per reload Forge gun, difficult to hit with and has a long charge up time before firing, plus small clip. The scrambler and laser has heat buildup, but if you honestly think thats harder to manage than the disadvantages of the other rifle weapons and justify the massive overwhelming instant damage that the weapons can put out that make shield tanking virtually suicidal, you're just crazy or a moron.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9282	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:50:00 - [25] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. Bolt Pistols have longer damage than ARs. Shoot the Gallente/Amarr Scout in their noggin. It doesn't help us that the Bolt Pistol hits a target even if you are slightly off target. The pistols hit detection is insane I've been pinned down from 45+ meters with a damn bolt pistol so its definitely a worthy weapon in close and med-long range. Unlike my AR and IP who are stuck in CQC and still get wrecked because we are stuck in the Godmode HMGs firing range and combat rifles that perform better in CQC than some of our range restricted weapons. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2918	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:18:00 - [26] - Quote So, you climbed a ladder in a shield suit and got killed in CQC by a ScR while using the CQC-inferior RR? Sounds about right to me. Next time, even your odds: Engage at distance preferably when he's not looking at you, or use an ARR on an armor suit and watch that armor tanked ScR user struggle to kill you.
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Smart Deploy 155	Posted - 2015.01.20 20:38:00 - [27] - Quote Every suit has its strong point and weak points. my wife has a caldari assault and let me tell you that thing is beast. Well, if you use it right. I'm tempted to build one of my own. That suits advantage is that it has quick shields regen. You can hide for a few seconds and you are back up and running at full health. I love that. She pairs that suit with the ARR and that thing hits like a horny mule on *****. Well, I haven't actually seen a horny mule on ***** but, I can imagine its kick would be devastating to anybody unlucky enough to get in its way. Anyways, The suits has its draw backs and it is not the best suit to have a sustained head to head battle. So, what you do is play that suit like a scout. Run around and flank some fool. Hammer him with the ARR and then run some more so that your shields regen to max again. Rinse and repeat. The Ammar eerrr well, I just don't get the ammar at all. I've tried the scrambler rifle and the ammar assault and I just get hammered left and rights. From afar it must look like a gang bang movie. The only one that i had luck with is the ammar heavy. The scout is ugly and that is reason enough for me not to even try it. The ammar are super slow which means that if they don't have suport they can be quickly taken over. Shoot them a couple of time, hide and shoot them again and that's it . they are dead. The scrambler rifle has that one powerful one shot BBBUUUTTT!!!!!!! it builds a lot of heat and it requires a lot of trigger discipline. You must have the calmness of a budhist Russian on pot to use that riffle which I don't have. If you panic with the SCR you are dead and if you miss that 1st chargd shot more than likely you will overheat and also die. So, the suit and weapon combo is balance. Sure, it hits hard but, cannot sustain a fight for long. Compare to the caldari that can't take too many hits but regens fast making them able to sustain a fight. My analisis of the table top incident is not that your suit is bad or that the SCR is overpower. Its more of a bad strategy. It is a miracle you even made it up the ladder to begin with. I would had waited until my team had an orbital and cleared them that way. Also, the table top gives you the high level advantage enabling you to pick the targets at a distance but, it has the disadvantage of having to get down. If you are able to capture the point then they have no choice but, to jump down which puts them at a disadvantage. On the other hand you could had climbed the other two milk carton looking buildings and use the range of the regular rail rifle to kill them off.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1552	Posted - 2015.01.20 20:50:00 - [28] - Quote shields are awesome if your run MD.. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 24	Posted - 2015.01.21 19:18:00 - [29] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Scrambler and Laser rifles have some of the highest damage profiles in the game, some of the highest damage outputs in the game, and are intended to be used against the lowest EHP suits in the game. Im not sure why people think this is OK, these things need their profiles tightened up so that they dont make shield tanking impossible. People want to complain about combat rifles and rail rifles, but the fact is nobody stops running armor tank fittings when they see some guy with a CR or RR. Nobody gets the heck out of dodge when they see a CR or RR firing nearby. But thats exactly what I have to do if I see a scrambler user who I know can aim. I have to leave if Im shield tanked and go fight somewhere else if I dont want to get wrecked and lose a clone inside of human reaction time. Other weapons with this kind of damage have actual disadvantages. Shotgun has short range. Bolt pistol has very low fire rate, a charge up, and low ammo count/clip. Sniper rifle is virtually unusable in close combat. Plasma Cannon is difficult to hit with and has one shot per reload Forge gun, difficult to hit with and has a long charge up time before firing, plus small clip. The scrambler and laser has heat buildup, but if you honestly think thats harder to manage than the disadvantages of the other rifle weapons and justify the massive overwhelming instant damage that the weapons can put out that make shield tanking virtually suicidal, you're just crazy or a moron. I could not of said it better^ ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. 267	Posted - 2015.01.21 19:34:00 - [30] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: i was just playing dust on the table top map, the enemy team got the objective first. they were all on top of the table top so i tried to go clear the roof. my first attempt failed, I tried to run to the ladder in the west side but when i went up top there was an Ak.0 assault guy that had a viziam SCR. i was using a Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR so i just tried to shoot him. he just charged his gun and he 1hit killed me. And it's the same thing EVERY TIME even when i'm a proto assault Ck.0 they still 3shot me. Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. I find that the RR has been nerfed too much and that the Caldari users have shut their mouth for too long about the SCR's. i think we are taking deaths not because we suck, but because you have no chance to kill a SCR user with a cal scout. Caldari needs a weapon other than the RR to be able to kill an Ak.0 assault user with something else than RE's or Shotguns. just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me. You obviously forgot to do the 'strafe dance' #sarcasm off Seriously if you know what they are running, why fight head on ? Adapt your game or you'll just end up frustrated. Also this game, for me anyway, is as equally enjoyable as it is frustrating. Try running a min scout with minimal HP and then when can talk about what kills you. Everything kills me in that suit, everything. BUT when I NK someone or lately RE them that tends to bring a smile to my face. Good luck merc, remember to try and have fun. It is a game after all. But every night I burn. Screaming the animal scream. Every night I burn. Dreaming the crow-black dream

TritusX PH4NT0M5 128	Posted - 2015.01.21 20:40:00 - [31] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: all the guns you named are guns 4 campers and noobs. minmatar has the CR and the HMG but they don't get **** up by SCR's because they have equal amount of armour and shield + they have speed. the only thing we have as a caldari is 5 high slots and a reload bonus. a ck.0 assault user cannot kill an ak.0 assault with a SCR from med range. but an Ak.0 assault can equip a CR n kill most of the other dropsuits from med range but with a caldari you can't. Ok ok ok. Basically, you aren't happy with the RR and how it cannot kill a SCR in close range. First, RR is a range** weapon. SCR is a medium range weapon. Both have drawbacks in CQC, with RR being charge time and SCR being overheat. A SCR will win a lot in a assault battle because it gets shots off first. RR has to charge and go through shields and then armor. If you want a medium or close range, try ARR. If you don't like that, go get a different gun. Also, races are balanced. Caldari are hard hitters from afar with sniper rifles, forge guns, bolt pistols, rail rifles. Minmatar are speedy but weak, with smg, combat rifle, flaylock, and their weapons are for run n gun. Amarr is especially strong, but slow. They use weapons that deal damage while up close when other races pale in EHP. They dominate cities and CQC because of the simple EHP. Gallente are armor regen with weapons designed for mid range for easy cover. They duck and regen their armor quick and pop out for more action with AR, Ion Pistol. Each race has strengths and weaknesses, and being a Caldari Loyalist and complaining about trying to get up close is lame. If you want to dominate CQC, get a different race. Believe in RUST Don't hate the DUST lol
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1747	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:29:00 - [32] - Quote Don't know after reading your post if you are complaining on tanking inequility or RR vs other guns balance. In case of latter, RR is in a good place. E.g. I get my best scores with RR. Pro-choice! For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners! We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 20	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:34:00 - [33] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: i was just playing dust on the table top map, the enemy team got the objective first. they were all on top of the table top so i tried to go clear the roof. my first attempt failed, I tried to run to the ladder in the west side but when i went up top there was an Ak.0 assault guy that had a viziam SCR. i was using a Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR so i just tried to shoot him. he just charged his gun and he 1hit killed me. And it's the same thing EVERY TIME even when i'm a proto assault Ck.0 they still 3shot me. Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. I find that the RR has been nerfed too much and that the Caldari users have shut their mouth for too long about the SCR's. i think we are taking deaths not because we suck, but because you have no chance to kill a SCR user with a cal scout. Caldari needs a weapon other than the RR to be able to kill an Ak.0 assault user with something else than RE's or Shotguns. just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me. sniper rifle dont be afraid to try to no scope just use it as if it were a shorter range shotgun and aim for the head
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 287	Posted - 2015.01.22 06:01:00 - [34] - Quote Ya ever notice that you never see cr sentinels or scr sentinels? nope...rail rifle dude take a look at the killfeed one day and see how many kills the "underpowered" rail rifle gets. "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1872	Posted - 2015.01.22 08:54:00 - [35] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. bolt pistol is medium range
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 194	Posted - 2015.01.22 09:07:00 - [36] - Quote If its an assault armor suit with an SCR. Use 1 proto dampener on an assault suit with a (shotgun and breach SMG) or (assault rifle and breach SMG) or (combat rifle and ishokune nova knifes) etc You may want to use kinetic katalizers (red bottles/sprint mods) with stealth fits if you have more than 1 low slot. If you are up against a proto squad in public matches: use a sentinel with 1 to 3 proto dampeners with flux grenades and HMG. Or 2 dampeners and burst HMG. a amarr sentinel with 3 proto dampeners and a std HMG is good if you are able to sneak up on squads within 13m. (I can do this most of the time). amarr sentinels with 3 proto dampeners gives a 27 scan profile. (I use std amarr sentinels so I don't lose much isk when I die)
Jack the Rlpper MONSTER SYNERGY 25	Posted - 2015.01.22 09:43:00 - [37] - Quote I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 27	Posted - 2015.01.22 15:36:00 - [38] - Quote Jack the Rlpper wrote: I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1634	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:22:00 - [39] - Quote Lel... Like how you tried to take them all, head on, in a Scout... You did it wrong... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 288	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:29:00 - [40] - Quote Jack the Rlpper wrote: I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Did you read the post? He goes on to talk about how the rr has been "nerfed to death" "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson

bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1284	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:39:00 - [41] - Quote Not even going to read this and I already know Cat Merc is jumping on the pro-armor train which he's done for years. Shields have always been the weaker of the two not sure why CCP hasn't done something about this. I don't have time to put my two cents in, as to why ( im on my mobile) Those who have been here long enough know Armor is the go to and seemingly the go to for competition now a days as well... Shields need a buff they get alphaed way to quick, be it the weapons or the way we have to fit shields.. Oh and I know OP is talking about scouts but INB4 the ignorant say, "Shield Assault Suits are for long range combat..........." Saying any assault variant suit is for long range combat only is just ********...
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 289	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:53:00 - [42] - Quote The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about? "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
TRULY ELITE Titans of Phoenix 283	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:01:00 - [43] - Quote If you try to CQC in a cal assault your dead, if you know there's a guy with a bloody scrambler on the table top why the hell are you trying to challenge him in a scout and in a Caldari suit? Brains much? Born Amarr, Pure Minmatar. Assault, Commando, Logistics, Sentinel, Scout MK.0
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 27	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:06:00 - [44] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: Not even going to read this and I already know Cat Merc is jumping on the pro-armor train which he's done for years. Shields have always been the weaker of the two not sure why CCP hasn't done something about this. I don't have time to put my two cents in, as to why ( im on my mobile) Those who have been here long enough know Armor is the go to and seemingly the go to for competition now a days as well... Shields need a buff they get alphaed way to quick, be it the weapons or the way we have to fit shields.. Oh and I know OP is talking about scouts but INB4 the ignorant say, "Shield Assault Suits are for long range combat..........." Saying any assault variant suit is for long range combat only is just ********... True. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 27	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:09:00 - [45] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Lel... Like how you tried to take them all, head on, in a Scout... You did it wrong... I blew em all with REs but a guy spawned n killed me 1with his scr when i way way more accurate than him, that was not the only time i got killed. I also got killed from med to long range easily even if i had my RR the SCR dude would allways get me without doing any effort even. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1881	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:18:00 - [46] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about? yeah, just another thread with tears overload... their tears fuel my armor plate factory. seriously, my caldari assault has 800 hp, low delays and huge shield regen with no speed loss at all plus a damage mod. if anyone thinks this is not viable then he should apply to dust uni thus I can teach them how to play. shield shredding weapons are no argument, they are supposed to. beside that most common sidearms I encouter are armor shredding, most common light weapons I encounter are armor shredding... problem?
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1285	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:22:00 - [47] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about? This doesn't matter if you can get hit by a mack truck and keep on shooting... Fully tanked shield suit (ie no damage mods with **** shield support mods) Vs a fully tanked armor Amarr or dual tanked mini with damage mods, it's lights out for the shield suit.. Now here is where the argument of "if you're a shield suit you should of engaged at long range.." That my friend you should try.. Unless you're holding a OHK weapon you're getting assists all day.. Or just part of the day depending on the map.. Long range shield fits only work for.. A: If you're a sniper B: If you like role playing with flower and friends..
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 29	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:22:00 - [48] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about? yeah, just another thread with tears overload... their tears fuel my armor plate factory. seriously, my caldari assault has 800 hp, low delays and huge shield regen with no speed loss at all plus a damage mod. if anyone thinks this is not viable then he should apply to dust uni thus I can teach them how to play. shield shredding weapons are no argument, they are supposed to. beside that most common sidearms I encouter are armor shredding, most common light weapons I encounter are armor shredding... problem? Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1882	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:25:00 - [49] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny. you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues ninja edit Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. forge gun plasma cannon bolt pistol scrambler pistol sniper rifle shotgun breach mass driver tank rail rail turret git gud
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 29	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:27:00 - [50] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny. you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go ** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ********** ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.

Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1883	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:30:00 - [51] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny. you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go ** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ********** I have already enough isk to buy the biggest corp in dust and still run proto all day there is a simple solution to your problem: l2p and git gud. till then you will have no other choice than remain a scrub forever ninja edit Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. forge gun plasma cannon bolt pistol scrambler pistol sniper rifle shotgun breach mass driver tank rail rail turret git gud
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4335	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:33:00 - [52] - Quote You should not be tanking a CalScout(or any scout) It's just so cheap. A Gallente scout can be one shotted by a Proto ScR just as like any other scout. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 32	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:35:00 - [53] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny. you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go ** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ********** I have already enough isk to buy the biggest corp in dust and still run proto all day there is a simple solution to your problem: l2p and git gud. till then you will have no other choice than remain a scrub forever ninja edit Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. forge gun plasma cannon bolt pistol scrambler pistol sniper rifle shotgun breach mass driver tank rail rail turret git gud WATCH OUT I CAN BUY YOUR MOM N STILL RUN MOMS ALL DAY LOOK AT ME IM SO GOOD MAN I HAVE 11222233 ISK OMG IT MEANS I BETTER THAN YOU ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 289	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:37:00 - [54] - Quote He's just mad that hit detection actually worked "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 32	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:40:00 - [55] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: He's just mad that hit detection actually worked Im mad be uase my **** worked with your mom ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 289	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:42:00 - [56] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: He's just mad that hit detection actually worked Im mad be uase my **** worked with your mom ? um...ok Lol. You should probably just punch out and go home for the day "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2966	Posted - 2015.01.22 19:29:00 - [57] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: seriously, my caldari assault has 800 hp, low delays and huge shield regen with no speed loss at all plus a damage mod. if anyone thinks this is not viable then he should apply to dust uni thus I can teach them how to play. Sure, the Cal Assault is a viable pub fit. So is my Cal scout with dual scrambler pistols. Bring your Cal Assault to PC and watch it get pounded by Min Assault, Gal Assault, Am Assault, any number of scouts, or any HMG player with a pulse. Cal Assault is not really a viable PC fit, except for the extremely skilled. And Jack, with all due respect, you are not among those. And please don't pretend like you can teach me or the OP anything -- because we disagree with you on the suit -- but do kindly say hello to Kaze for me....he's a good man and would never take on the air of superiority you have in this thread. Take care....Lead
TritusX PH4NT0M5 142	Posted - 2015.01.22 20:32:00 - [58] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Jack the Rlpper wrote: I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit. Well, CR is op against armor then. It does 15%+armor and 15%-shields. If you want, use that. Don't take on an assault with a scout. Scout is weak and squishy and as many scout complainers say, they are recon. If you don't like that, use them as assassins. Do assassins fight upfront versus someone they clearly have no distinct advantage? No, they step back and do something discreetly to gain the edge. Scouts have EWAR, use it. They're fast, chase after them. Use stealth. Sneak up on him, get the first shot on him, and circle around really fast where he cannot follow you. If you expect to engage a assualt 1v1 with someone who also has a weapon designed just to kill you, and win, you're nuts. Believe in RUST Don't hate the DUST lol
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 32	Posted - 2015.01.22 20:49:00 - [59] - Quote TritusX wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Jack the Rlpper wrote: I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit. Well, CR is op against armor then. It does 15%+armor and 15%-shields. If you want, use that. Don't take on an assault with a scout. Scout is weak and squishy and as many scout complainers say, they are recon. If you don't like that, use them as assassins. Do assassins fight upfront versus someone they clearly have no distinct advantage? No, they step back and do something discreetly to gain the edge. Scouts have EWAR, use it. They're fast, chase after them. Use stealth. Sneak up on him, get the first shot on him, and circle around really fast where he cannot follow you. If you expect to engage a assualt 1v1 with someone who also has a weapon designed just to kill you, and win, you're nuts. It does not. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
JONAHBENHUR WarRavens 94	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:27:00 - [60] - Quote caldari assult sucks and has sucked for a long time, the other caldari suits were great till people q_q they were overpowered when the suits were just on par with suits of the similar type. just dont waste isk or sp on caldari stuff "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu

Mecha-Sol CORRUPTED CODE 5	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:36:00 - [61] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. Bolt pistol. You must not have tried it. It will one shot most suits if you aim for the head. trying to push the table top is foolish by yourself with a cal scout. Fall back and snipe them.
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 874	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:40:00 - [62] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol Ha no, For a while now I have not seen 1 scout not running shield/armor mods. Just this morning It took three of my bolt shots to kill a gal scout. Don't get me started on cal scouts though, without the real need to run anything but shield mods on their highs, I constantly see 450 shields on them....
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 874	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:44:00 - [63] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: i was just playing dust on the table top map, the enemy team got the objective first. they were all on top of the table top so i tried to go clear the roof. my first attempt failed, I tried to run to the ladder in the west side but when i went up top there was an Ak.0 assault guy that had a viziam SCR. i was using a Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR so i just tried to shoot him. he just charged his gun and he 1hit killed me. And it's the same thing EVERY TIME even when i'm a proto assault Ck.0 they still 3shot me. Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. I find that the RR has been nerfed too much and that the Caldari users have shut their mouth for too long about the SCR's. i think we are taking deaths not because we suck, but because you have no chance to kill a SCR user with a cal scout. Caldari needs a weapon other than the RR to be able to kill an Ak.0 assault user with something else than RE's or Shotguns. just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me. Sniper rifle I would say BP but by the time you are close enough to use it you will be insta-zapped
roblox098 SVER True Blood 49	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:50:00 - [64] - Quote no Assault mk.0 and scout gk.0 I LOVE =ƒö¬ ing
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 458	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:04:00 - [65] - Quote TRULY ELITE wrote: If you try to CQC in a cal assault your dead, if you know there's a guy with a bloody scrambler on the table top why the hell are you trying to challenge him in a scout and in a Caldari suit? Brains much? Said no one to anyone using an armor suit vs. an anti armor weapon ever. When will people acknowledge that the scrambler rifle's rediculous instant damage output is an outlier that makes it stupidly overpowered against scouts and shield tanked suits?
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 234	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:08:00 - [66] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: TRULY ELITE wrote: If you try to CQC in a cal assault your dead, if you know there's a guy with a bloody scrambler on the table top why the hell are you trying to challenge him in a scout and in a Caldari suit? Brains much? Said no one to anyone using an armor suit vs. an anti armor weapon ever. When will people acknowledge that the scrambler rifle's rediculous instant damage output is an outlier that makes it stupidly overpowered against scouts and shield tanked suits? CCP Rattati was pretty clear that the numbers just do not support your claims. If they change it will be looked into. We don't see a huge influx of ScR users because it is a skill weapon. Fighting it also requires skill. In other words: get gud
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 458	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:14:00 - [67] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: TRULY ELITE wrote: If you try to CQC in a cal assault your dead, if you know there's a guy with a bloody scrambler on the table top why the hell are you trying to challenge him in a scout and in a Caldari suit? Brains much? Said no one to anyone using an armor suit vs. an anti armor weapon ever. When will people acknowledge that the scrambler rifle's rediculous instant damage output is an outlier that makes it stupidly overpowered against scouts and shield tanked suits? CCP Rattati was pretty clear that the numbers just do not support your claims. If they change it will be looked into. We don't see a huge influx of ScR users because it is a skill weapon. Fighting it also requires skill. In other words: get gud He outright said it was OP looking at the numbers, and thats just basic kills per spawn, I bet if he filtered those numbers to shield suits or scouts it would be absurd how OP it looked. But its ok, keep pretending its perfectly fine. My problem with the scrambler is that it just makes it impossible to run a scout or shield suit or any low health suit at all without getting insta zapped from 80 meters. There is no all around good weapon in the game that does that kind of thing except for the scrambler rifle. Its a massive outlier in the rifle category and it needs to be changed.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17197	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:22:00 - [68] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: He outright said it was OP looking at the numbers, and thats just basic kills per spawn, I bet if he filtered those numbers to shield suits or scouts it would be absurd how OP it looked. But its ok, keep pretending its perfectly fine. My problem with the scrambler is that it just makes it impossible to run a scout or shield suit or any low health suit at all without getting insta zapped from 80 meters. There is no all around good weapon in the game that does that kind of thing except for the scrambler rifle. Its a massive outlier in the rifle category and it needs to be changed. I can somewhat agree with that now we have built in Warbarge Damage Modules..... but without an Amarr Assault and a full 2-3 rack of Damage modules (which is stupid anyway because damage modules are ideally low slot mods) it's kinda underwhelming especially against high armour suits. But honestly I don't agree with the "80m zap u are ded scount". Ideally I shouldn't even see you and if I do said "scount" should probably go to ground. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 234	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:26:00 - [69] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: TRULY ELITE wrote: If you try to CQC in a cal assault your dead, if you know there's a guy with a bloody scrambler on the table top why the hell are you trying to challenge him in a scout and in a Caldari suit? Brains much? Said no one to anyone using an armor suit vs. an anti armor weapon ever. When will people acknowledge that the scrambler rifle's rediculous instant damage output is an outlier that makes it stupidly overpowered against scouts and shield tanked suits? CCP Rattati was pretty clear that the numbers just do not support your claims. If they change it will be looked into. We don't see a huge influx of ScR users because it is a skill weapon. Fighting it also requires skill. In other words: get gud He outright said it was OP looking at the numbers, and thats just basic kills per spawn, I bet if he filtered those numbers to shield suits or scouts it would be absurd how OP it looked. But its ok, keep pretending its perfectly fine. My problem with the scrambler is that it just makes it impossible to run a scout or shield suit or any low health suit at all without getting insta zapped from 80 meters. There is no all around good weapon in the game that does that kind of thing except for the scrambler rifle. Its a massive outlier in the rifle category and it needs to be changed. He said most efficient. There is a huge difference.


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