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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
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Posted - 2015.01.21 20:40:00 -
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote:all the guns you named are guns 4 campers and noobs. minmatar has the CR and the HMG but they don't get ****** up by SCR's because they have equal amount of armour and shield + they have speed. the only thing we have as a caldari is 5 high slots and a reload bonus. a ck.0 assault user cannot kill an ak.0 assault with a SCR from med range. but an Ak.0 assault can equip a CR n kill most of the other dropsuits from med range but with a caldari you can't. Ok ok ok. Basically, you aren't happy with the RR and how it cannot kill a SCR in close range. First, RR is a range weapon. SCR is a medium range weapon. Both have drawbacks in CQC, with RR being charge time and SCR being overheat. A SCR will win a lot in a assault battle because it gets shots off first. RR has to charge and go through shields and then armor. If you want a medium or close range, try ARR. If you don't like that, go get a different gun. Also, races are balanced. Caldari are hard hitters from afar with sniper rifles, forge guns, bolt pistols, rail rifles. Minmatar are speedy but weak, with smg, combat rifle, flaylock, and their weapons are for run n gun. Amarr is especially strong, but slow. They use weapons that deal damage while up close when other races pale in EHP. They dominate cities and CQC because of the simple EHP. Gallente are armor regen with weapons designed for mid range for easy cover. They duck and regen their armor quick and pop out for more action with AR, Ion Pistol.
Each race has strengths and weaknesses, and being a Caldari Loyalist and complaining about trying to get up close is lame. If you want to dominate CQC, get a different race.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1747
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:29:00 -
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Don't know after reading your post if you are complaining on tanking inequility or RR vs other guns balance.
In case of latter, RR is in a good place. E.g. I get my best scores with RR.
Pro-choice!
For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners!
We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
20
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:34:00 -
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote:i was just playing dust on the table top map, the enemy team got the objective first. they were all on top of the table top so i tried to go clear the roof. my first attempt failed, I tried to run to the ladder in the west side but when i went up top there was an Ak.0 assault guy that had a viziam SCR. i was using a Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR so i just tried to shoot him. he just charged his gun and he 1hit killed me. And it's the same thing EVERY TIME even when i'm a proto assault Ck.0 they still 3shot me. Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. I find that the RR has been nerfed too much and that the Caldari users have shut their mouth for too long about the SCR's. i think we are taking deaths not because we suck, but because you have no chance to kill a SCR user with a cal scout. Caldari needs a weapon other than the RR to be able to kill an Ak.0 assault user with something else than RE's or Shotguns. just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me.
sniper rifle dont be afraid to try to no scope just use it as if it were a shorter range shotgun and aim for the head |
JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
287
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Posted - 2015.01.22 06:01:00 -
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Ya ever notice that you never see cr sentinels or scr sentinels? nope...rail rifle dude take a look at the killfeed one day and see how many kills the "underpowered" rail rifle gets.
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1872
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Posted - 2015.01.22 08:54:00 -
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote:just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc.. bolt pistol is medium range |
WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:07:00 -
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If its an assault armor suit with an SCR.
Use 1 proto dampener on an assault suit with a (shotgun and breach SMG) or (assault rifle and breach SMG) or (combat rifle and ishokune nova knifes) etc
You may want to use kinetic katalizers (red bottles/sprint mods) with stealth fits if you have more than 1 low slot.
If you are up against a proto squad in public matches:
use a sentinel with 1 to 3 proto dampeners with flux grenades and HMG. Or 2 dampeners and burst HMG.
a amarr sentinel with 3 proto dampeners and a std HMG is good if you are able to sneak up on squads within 13m. (I can do this most of the time).
amarr sentinels with 3 proto dampeners gives a 27 scan profile. (I use std amarr sentinels so I don't lose much isk when I die)
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Jack the Rlpper
MONSTER SYNERGY
25
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:43:00 -
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I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please
and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me |
Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
27
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:36:00 -
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Jack the Rlpper wrote:I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please
and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit.
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LUGMOS
Quafe Premium
1634
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:22:00 -
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Lel...
Like how you tried to take them all, head on, in a Scout... You did it wrong...
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
288
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:29:00 -
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Jack the Rlpper wrote:I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please
and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Did you read the post? He goes on to talk about how the rr has been "nerfed to death"
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1284
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:39:00 -
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Not even going to read this and I already know Cat Merc is jumping on the pro-armor train which he's done for years.
Shields have always been the weaker of the two not sure why CCP hasn't done something about this.
I don't have time to put my two cents in, as to why ( im on my mobile) Those who have been here long enough know Armor is the go to and seemingly the go to for competition now a days as well...
Shields need a buff they get alphaed way to quick, be it the weapons or the way we have to fit shields..
Oh and I know OP is talking about scouts but INB4 the ignorant say, "Shield Assault Suits are for long range combat..........."
Saying any assault variant suit is for long range combat only is just ********... |
JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
289
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:53:00 -
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The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about?
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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TRULY ELITE
Titans of Phoenix
283
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:01:00 -
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If you try to CQC in a cal assault your dead, if you know there's a guy with a bloody scrambler on the table top why the hell are you trying to challenge him in a scout and in a Caldari suit? Brains much?
Born Amarr, Pure Minmatar.
Assault, Commando, Logistics, Sentinel, Scout MK.0
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Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
27
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:06:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Not even going to read this and I already know Cat Merc is jumping on the pro-armor train which he's done for years. Shields have always been the weaker of the two not sure why CCP hasn't done something about this. I don't have time to put my two cents in, as to why ( im on my mobile) Those who have been here long enough know Armor is the go to and seemingly the go to for competition now a days as well... Shields need a buff they get alphaed way to quick, be it the weapons or the way we have to fit shields.. Oh and I know OP is talking about scouts but INB4 the ignorant say, "Shield Assault Suits are for long range combat..........." Saying any assault variant suit is for long range combat only is just ********... True.
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Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
27
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:09:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Lel...
Like how you tried to take them all, head on, in a Scout... You did it wrong... I blew em all with REs but a guy spawned n killed me 1with his scr when i way way more accurate than him, that was not the only time i got killed. I also got killed from med to long range easily even if i had my RR the SCR dude would allways get me without doing any effort even.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1881
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:18:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about? yeah, just another thread with tears overload... their tears fuel my armor plate factory.
seriously, my caldari assault has 800 hp, low delays and huge shield regen with no speed loss at all plus a damage mod. if anyone thinks this is not viable then he should apply to dust uni thus I can teach them how to play.
shield shredding weapons are no argument, they are supposed to. beside that most common sidearms I encouter are armor shredding, most common light weapons I encounter are armor shredding... problem? |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1285
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:22:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about?
This doesn't matter if you can get hit by a mack truck and keep on shooting... Fully tanked shield suit (ie no damage mods with **** shield support mods) Vs a fully tanked armor Amarr or dual tanked mini with damage mods, it's lights out for the shield suit..
Now here is where the argument of "if you're a shield suit you should of engaged at long range.." That my friend you should try..
Unless you're holding a OHK weapon you're getting assists all day.. Or just part of the day depending on the map..
Long range shield fits only work for.. A: If you're a sniper B: If you like role playing with flower and friends.. |
Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
29
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:22:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about? yeah, just another thread with tears overload... their tears fuel my armor plate factory. seriously, my caldari assault has 800 hp, low delays and huge shield regen with no speed loss at all plus a damage mod. if anyone thinks this is not viable then he should apply to dust uni thus I can teach them how to play. shield shredding weapons are no argument, they are supposed to. beside that most common sidearms I encouter are armor shredding, most common light weapons I encounter are armor shredding... problem? Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1882
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:25:00 -
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues
*ninja edit*
Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout.
forge gun plasma cannon bolt pistol scrambler pistol sniper rifle shotgun breach mass driver tank rail rail turret
git gud |
Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
29
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:27:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go **** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ************
ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1883
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:30:00 -
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go **** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ************ I have already enough isk to buy the biggest corp in dust and still run proto all day
there is a simple solution to your problem: l2p and git gud. till then you will have no other choice than remain a scrub forever
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout.
forge gun plasma cannon bolt pistol scrambler pistol sniper rifle shotgun breach mass driver tank rail rail turret
git gud |
Cody Sietz
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
4335
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:33:00 -
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You should not be tanking a CalScout(or any scout) It's just so cheap.
A Gallente scout can be one shotted by a Proto ScR just as like any other scout.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
32
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:35:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go **** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ************ I have already enough isk to buy the biggest corp in dust and still run proto all day there is a simple solution to your problem: l2p and git gud. till then you will have no other choice than remain a scrub forever *ninja edit* Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout.
forge gun plasma cannon bolt pistol scrambler pistol sniper rifle shotgun breach mass driver tank rail rail turret git gud
WATCH OUT I CAN BUY YOUR MOM N STILL RUN MOMS ALL DAY LOOK AT ME IM SO GOOD MAN I HAVE 11222233 ISK OMG IT MEANS I BETTER THAN YOU
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
289
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:37:00 -
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He's just mad that hit detection actually worked
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
32
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:40:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:He's just mad that hit detection actually worked Im mad be uase my **** worked with your mom
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
289
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:42:00 -
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:He's just mad that hit detection actually worked Im mad be uase my **** worked with your mom ? um...ok Lol. You should probably just punch out and go home for the day
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2966
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Posted - 2015.01.22 19:29:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:seriously, my caldari assault has 800 hp, low delays and huge shield regen with no speed loss at all plus a damage mod. if anyone thinks this is not viable then he should apply to dust uni thus I can teach them how to play.
Sure, the Cal Assault is a viable pub fit. So is my Cal scout with dual scrambler pistols.
Bring your Cal Assault to PC and watch it get pounded by Min Assault, Gal Assault, Am Assault, any number of scouts, or any HMG player with a pulse.
Cal Assault is not really a viable PC fit, except for the extremely skilled. And Jack, with all due respect, you are not among those.
And please don't pretend like you can teach me or the OP anything -- because we disagree with you on the suit -- but do kindly say hello to Kaze for me....he's a good man and would never take on the air of superiority you have in this thread.
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
142
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:32:00 -
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Charli Chaplin jr wrote:Jack the Rlpper wrote:I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please
and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit. Well, CR is op against armor then. It does 15%+armor and 15%-shields. If you want, use that. Don't take on an assault with a scout. Scout is weak and squishy and as many scout complainers say, they are recon. If you don't like that, use them as assassins. Do assassins fight upfront versus someone they clearly have no distinct advantage? No, they step back and do something discreetly to gain the edge. Scouts have EWAR, use it. They're fast, chase after them. Use stealth. Sneak up on him, get the first shot on him, and circle around really fast where he cannot follow you. If you expect to engage a assualt 1v1 with someone who also has a weapon designed just to kill you, and win, you're nuts.
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Don't hate the DUST
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Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
32
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:49:00 -
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TritusX wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote:Jack the Rlpper wrote:I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please
and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit. Well, CR is op against armor then. It does 15%+armor and 15%-shields. If you want, use that. Don't take on an assault with a scout. Scout is weak and squishy and as many scout complainers say, they are recon. If you don't like that, use them as assassins. Do assassins fight upfront versus someone they clearly have no distinct advantage? No, they step back and do something discreetly to gain the edge. Scouts have EWAR, use it. They're fast, chase after them. Use stealth. Sneak up on him, get the first shot on him, and circle around really fast where he cannot follow you. If you expect to engage a assualt 1v1 with someone who also has a weapon designed just to kill you, and win, you're nuts. It does not.
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JONAHBENHUR
WarRavens
94
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Posted - 2015.02.22 14:27:00 -
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caldari assult sucks and has sucked for a long time, the other caldari suits were great till people q_q they were overpowered when the suits were just on par with suits of the similar type. just dont waste isk or sp on caldari stuff
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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