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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 15:20:00 -
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i was just playing dust on the table top map, the enemy team got the objective first. they were all on top of the table top so i tried to go clear the roof. my first attempt failed, I tried to run to the ladder in the west side but when i went up top there was an Ak.0 assault guy that had a viziam SCR. i was using a Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR so i just tried to shoot him. he just charged his gun and he 1hit killed me. And it's the same thing EVERY TIME even when i'm a proto assault Ck.0 they still 3shot me. Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout. I find that the RR has been nerfed too much and that the Caldari users have shut their mouth for too long about the SCR's. i think we are taking deaths not because we suck, but because you have no chance to kill a SCR user with a cal scout. Caldari needs a weapon other than the RR to be able to kill an Ak.0 assault user with something else than RE's or Shotguns. just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout in the body, tell me.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 15:25:00 -
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But i'm talking about a caldari med range weapon that can 1shot gal/Ar scouts. ikr PLC's and SG's can but they're not med range weapons like the SCR wich makes caldari and minmatar at a disadvantage.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 15:30:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote:just name me 1 CALDARI gun that can 1hit an Ak.0/Gk.0 scout Bolt Pistol A MED RANGE WEAPON LIKE AR's SCR's etc..
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 15:33:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:what is your fit?
its alot more relevant that if its a basic or proto suit tbh i used a ck.0 scout with 493 eHP and got 1shotted by a viziam SCR user. i also used a ck.0 assault with a kalakiota RR with prof 4 n skill got fked up by SR/LR users in med range to CQC.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 15:41:00 -
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all the guns you named are guns 4 campers and noobs. minmatar has the CR and the HMG but they don't get ****** up by SCR's because they have equal amount of armour and shield + they have speed. the only thing we have as a caldari is 5 high slots and a reload bonus. a ck.0 assault user cannot kill an ak.0 assault with a SCR from med range. but an Ak.0 assault can equip a CR n kill most of the other dropsuits from med range but with a caldari you can't.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 15:49:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:ARR will absolutely destroy any armor suit.... its low key op as ****.. but I love it so no complaints here and amarr assaults weakness are....(all because we are slower than dirt) .I'll name them but I don't want to see you using against me but its Sniper, bolt pistol , mass driver ,ARR , Any and every heavy, shotgun scouts that aren't amarr lol....super strafing mk0 assaults and armor tanked gal assaults with breach and damage mods..... Yes but caldari have no weapon that does +15% to armor and -15% to shield. the RR does +10% to armor and -10% to shield and that's what makes it weaker. the SCR also does more dmg and it is more accurate in most cases.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 16:09:00 -
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Lol, you were the one crying like a ***** on the forums when the SCR's got nerfed and now you tell me to get good? lol go collect some isk kid and watch your Stats before you tell me to get good. sissy
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.21 19:18:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Scrambler and Laser rifles have some of the highest damage profiles in the game, some of the highest damage outputs in the game, and are intended to be used against the lowest EHP suits in the game.
Im not sure why people think this is OK, these things need their profiles tightened up so that they dont make shield tanking impossible.
People want to complain about combat rifles and rail rifles, but the fact is nobody stops running armor tank fittings when they see some guy with a CR or RR. Nobody gets the heck out of dodge when they see a CR or RR firing nearby. But thats exactly what I have to do if I see a scrambler user who I know can aim. I have to leave if Im shield tanked and go fight somewhere else if I dont want to get wrecked and lose a clone inside of human reaction time.
Other weapons with this kind of damage have actual disadvantages. Shotgun has short range. Bolt pistol has very low fire rate, a charge up, and low ammo count/clip. Sniper rifle is virtually unusable in close combat. Plasma Cannon is difficult to hit with and has one shot per reload Forge gun, difficult to hit with and has a long charge up time before firing, plus small clip.
The scrambler and laser has heat buildup, but if you honestly think thats harder to manage than the disadvantages of the other rifle weapons and justify the massive overwhelming instant damage that the weapons can put out that make shield tanking virtually suicidal, you're just crazy or a moron. I could not of said it better^
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:36:00 -
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Jack the Rlpper wrote:I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please
and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:06:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Not even going to read this and I already know Cat Merc is jumping on the pro-armor train which he's done for years. Shields have always been the weaker of the two not sure why CCP hasn't done something about this. I don't have time to put my two cents in, as to why ( im on my mobile) Those who have been here long enough know Armor is the go to and seemingly the go to for competition now a days as well... Shields need a buff they get alphaed way to quick, be it the weapons or the way we have to fit shields.. Oh and I know OP is talking about scouts but INB4 the ignorant say, "Shield Assault Suits are for long range combat..........." Saying any assault variant suit is for long range combat only is just ********... True.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:09:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Lel...
Like how you tried to take them all, head on, in a Scout... You did it wrong... I blew em all with REs but a guy spawned n killed me 1with his scr when i way way more accurate than him, that was not the only time i got killed. I also got killed from med to long range easily even if i had my RR the SCR dude would allways get me without doing any effort even.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:22:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:The current speed/strafe meta has effectively nerfed armor tanking. Does anybody try what they complain about? yeah, just another thread with tears overload... their tears fuel my armor plate factory. seriously, my caldari assault has 800 hp, low delays and huge shield regen with no speed loss at all plus a damage mod. if anyone thinks this is not viable then he should apply to dust uni thus I can teach them how to play. shield shredding weapons are no argument, they are supposed to. beside that most common sidearms I encouter are armor shredding, most common light weapons I encounter are armor shredding... problem? Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:27:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go **** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ************
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:35:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Go back to the academy and stfu kid, you're funny.
you tears are delicious. if you want to improve instead of wrecking your anus with every post you make like a scrublord then apply to dust uni and I will help you out with your l2p issues Go **** ur mother n stfu, gtfo of there and to collect some isk scrub. You realy need it your corp are noobs and youre also a noobb7tch ass ************ I have already enough isk to buy the biggest corp in dust and still run proto all day there is a simple solution to your problem: l2p and git gud. till then you will have no other choice than remain a scrub forever *ninja edit* Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Tell me 1 gun that can ONE SHOT a proto gallente scout.
forge gun plasma cannon bolt pistol scrambler pistol sniper rifle shotgun breach mass driver tank rail rail turret git gud
WATCH OUT I CAN BUY YOUR MOM N STILL RUN MOMS ALL DAY LOOK AT ME IM SO GOOD MAN I HAVE 11222233 ISK OMG IT MEANS I BETTER THAN YOU
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:40:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:He's just mad that hit detection actually worked Im mad be uase my **** worked with your mom
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Charli Chaplin jr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:49:00 -
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TritusX wrote:Charli Chaplin jr wrote:Jack the Rlpper wrote:I guess no one actually read the op before being stupid and saying something he was using the Ck.0 scout with a boundless CR not a rr or arr or scr or plc or sg or ar or bar or brchar or tac ar or anything it was a BOUNDLESS CR a armour damaging god mod in cqc if good with weapon his problem is how a scr can 3 shot ck0 assaults and 1 shot ck0 skouts making being a shield user horrible and no fun i still the the rr kick should be removed but charge time should stay same or go to 1 second and the arr kick should be gone and charge time same as rr but thats me i think scr should go down in direct shield damage and the laser rifle needs to be looked at cause it slays shields and armour the same so read the op right before posting and dont be a little snot nose and make stupid posts or troll ones be constuctive and read before posting please
and also i think all weapon damage profiles should be as follows- Shield based damaging weapons +10% shields-10% armor and all armor damging weapons -10% shields +10% armor but thats me Ty, finally! I think that scr are op against caldari dropsuits because they do +15% dmg to shield and -15% to armor. The scr rifle is the only weapon that has a high effective against shield but as a caldari/minmatar we don't have a weaponnthat has the same percentages vs armor and that't what is making us underpowered vs the scr because that gun has +15% to shield but any other gun has a +15% to armor and that's what makes it impossible to counter a scr user with a caldari or a minmatar dropsuit. Well, CR is op against armor then. It does 15%+armor and 15%-shields. If you want, use that. Don't take on an assault with a scout. Scout is weak and squishy and as many scout complainers say, they are recon. If you don't like that, use them as assassins. Do assassins fight upfront versus someone they clearly have no distinct advantage? No, they step back and do something discreetly to gain the edge. Scouts have EWAR, use it. They're fast, chase after them. Use stealth. Sneak up on him, get the first shot on him, and circle around really fast where he cannot follow you. If you expect to engage a assualt 1v1 with someone who also has a weapon designed just to kill you, and win, you're nuts. It does not.
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