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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
309
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Posted - 2015.01.20 03:59:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:
Scope was OP at the longer ranges the sniper rifle was effective at because it gave you a clear view of the guys you are shooting at even in the 500-600 meter range (as opposed to the other rifles which shows you a head the size of a single pixel at those ranges)
I disagree that countersniping is worse off, one shot from a charge sniper will kill damn near anything, before you had to hope the other guy was lagging or stupid to actually kill him before he moved behind cover.
I would like some variable zoom though!
So, it was OP because it allowed the sniper rifle to fire at ranges that it was originally meant to engage..? Wow. Who'd have thought that would actually make it so viable. (For the record, scopes meant for longer ranges also mean that they're less effective at -LESSER- ranges, but no-one complains about that). Countersniping -is- worse off and using the Charge Sniper Rifle's damage as evidence as to why it's not is about as much of a stretch as I can imagine. If the redline sniper is 450m away, using a vanilla sniper rifle, and you're using a Charge sniper Rifle.... That means you have to get within 400m of him to do any damage at all. All the while: a) His teammates can freely engage you. b) He can take a few steps backward and get out of your range. c) He's already been shooting at you for 50m. d) He's already ready to fire, while you have to get set up and ready to go. No. The scope is not OP because it allows the sniper to engage at his weapon's intended range. The Thale's -MAY HAVE BEEN OP- for other factors but being able to shoot at it's range is surely not one of them.
I agree that the scope was fine for the range of the rifle, and other rifles should probably have been more like the thales instead of the thales getting nerfed, but balance is a relative thing, and compared to the other sniper rifles, the thales scope was OP.
Im not sure why you are being seen by the other sniper when counter sniping, due to sway mechanics and shifty aiming its really stupid to even try and make a shot if you suspect the enemy sniper sees you, regardless of the rifle you are using. Just reposition until you can get him without him seeing you. And as for enemy infantry, yeah its a problem sometimes, but even in the worst pub stomps Ive ever seen Ive still managed to sneak around all the crap to get at a sniper. Just damp up a scout suit, its not as difficult as you are making it out to be.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5014
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Posted - 2015.01.20 04:04:00 -
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I have not been playing dust for about 40 days now. I've rarely played video games at all aside from pixel dungeon (it's a fun free roguelike on the play store for those interested) and dragon age rarely. I mainly use email and skype to keep up these days and have not abandoned or cut ties with anyone. Kane can confirm I spent about an hour just the other day debating the merits of fixed timers in PC among other things.
This is an inopportune time for me to be judged on not playing but when you get caught with your pants down some explanation is required I feel so here's mine.
I have more hours on this game than any other cpm member.
I actually had (haven't checked in some time) more kills in the game than 4 of my fellow CPM members combined.
I may well have dropped out of the top 250 for all time kills by now. I had to stop playing for 2 reasons lately:
1.) finals, holidays, and then now my final semester.
This is all much more time intensive this year as opposed to last year when I was in the thick of it fighting to establish my newly created corp and helping Outer Heaven in the Winter War as it is now remembered.
2.) One of my puppies (Sirius) became life threateningly sick and it ended up costing me an exorbitant amount of money to save his life.
This has been a very trying time in my life, one I was ill prepared for after having enjoyed christmas, after having returned a lot of gifts i'm still attempting to pay down 4k worth of debt incurred to say nothing of the excruciating damper the whole affair had on the break.
Here's a pic after the surgery. Yeah...very upsetting. So I do apologize and hope you might find it in each of you to forgive my heretofore unexplained absence from playing.
I recognize this may be a tad bit personal and this may not excuse me regardless with any of you.
However, there it is. The cat is out of the bag, so to speak.
I have plans to return to dust as soon as I can. And in the meantime I am focused on attempting to fulfill my duties I have been entrusted (I freely admit I have so much to learn and improve on) and pray the community would not have me hand in my resignation despite my inadequacies of late.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
Final's week sucks :'(
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ReGnYuM
Red Star.
3440
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Posted - 2015.01.20 04:09:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I have not been playing dust for about 40 days now. I've rarely played video games at all aside from pixel dungeon (it's a fun free roguelike on the play store for those interested) and dragon age rarely. I mainly use email and skype to keep up these days and have not abandoned or cut ties with anyone. Kane can confirm I spent about an hour just the other day debating the merits of fixed timers in PC among other things. This is an inopportune time for me to be judged on not playing but when you get caught with your pants down some explanation is required I feel so here's mine. I have more hours on this game than any other cpm member. I actually had (haven't checked in some time) more kills in the game than 4 of my fellow CPM members combined. I may well have dropped out of the top 250 for all time kills by now. I had to stop playing for 2 reasons lately: 1.) finals, holidays, and then now my final semester. This is all much more time intensive this year as opposed to last year when I was in the thick of it fighting to establish my newly created corp and helping Outer Heaven in the Winter War as it is now remembered. 2.) One of my puppies (Sirius) became life threateningly sick and it ended up costing me an exorbitant amount of money to save his life. This has been a very trying time in my life, one I was ill prepared for after having enjoyed christmas, after having returned a lot of gifts i'm still attempting to pay down 4k worth of debt incurred to say nothing of the excruciating damper the whole affair had on the break. Here's a pic after the surgery. Yeah...very upsetting. So I do apologize and hope you might find it in each of you to forgive my heretofore unexplained absence from playing. I recognize this may be a tad bit personal and this may not excuse me regardless with any of you. However, there it is. The cat is out of the bag, so to speak. I have plans to return to dust as soon as I can. And in the meantime I am focused on attempting to fulfill my duties I have been entrusted (I freely admit I have so much to learn and improve on) and pray the community would not have me hand in my resignation despite my inadequacies of late.
Zatara we all love you <3 <3 <3
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5014
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Posted - 2015.01.20 04:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:the current CPM or the one you quoted? We each have individual strengths Aeon. ;) I realize that. Shame that none of those strengths involve actually communicating with players outside of personal social cliques or trolling the community on the forums. Even more of a shame that I feel like I have to wait for the CPM2 to come around to be able to talk to anyone that actually cares about anyone's opinion other than their own.
*sigh* Well this conversation is going places with an attitude like that.
I would assert I have quite an open mind...indeed I think anyone who knows me particularly well is aware of how genuinely and often I am open to changing my opinion.
I posted openly in my campaign thread that for me conviction is a destination. I care deeply about others opinions.
And as I've said elsewhere on these forums many times...even when a person asserts some hairbrained idea (for example to remove all vehicles...or to create different queue's for differing numbers of point on skirmish match maps) I will either try to engage the idea and reason together...or I find that it's not a waste of time at all because I can see a different concern that's prompted such an idea as a solution...or the idea serves as inspiration to a brand new idea.
I love talking with all players. I welcome their feedback and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone serving on the CPM who would claim the contrary.
Indeed, I notice threads in direct contradiction to the assertion that the CPM do not care for opinions outside their 'cliques' unless you would fathom defending the idea the entirety of the forums are a clique.
But as always...at least one of us will openly admit they may well be wrong.
Goodnight Aeon.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
Final's week sucks :'(
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7913
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Posted - 2015.01.20 05:08:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:the current CPM or the one you quoted? We each have individual strengths Aeon. ;) I realize that. Shame that none of those strengths involve actually communicating with players outside of personal social cliques or trolling the community on the forums. Even more of a shame that I feel like I have to wait for the CPM2 to come around to be able to talk to anyone that actually cares about anyone's opinion other than their own. *sigh* Well this conversation is going places with an attitude like that. I would assert I have quite an open mind...indeed I think anyone who knows me particularly well is aware of how genuinely and often I am open to changing my opinion. I posted openly in my campaign thread that for me conviction is a destination. I care deeply about others opinions. And as I've said elsewhere on these forums many times...even when a person asserts some hairbrained idea (for example to remove all vehicles...or to create different queue's for differing numbers of point on skirmish match maps) I will either try to engage the idea and reason together...or I find that it's not a waste of time at all because I can see a different concern that's prompted such an idea as a solution...or the idea serves as inspiration to a brand new idea. I love talking with all players. I welcome their feedback and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone serving on the CPM who would claim the contrary. Indeed, I notice threads in direct contradiction to the assertion that the CPM do not care for opinions outside their 'cliques' unless you would fathom defending the idea the entirety of the forums are a clique. But as always...at least one of us will openly admit they may well be wrong. Goodnight Aeon.
In retrospect I might have come off a bit unfairly toward you, specifically, Zatara. I won't make excuses toward that and I apologize for grouping you in with the rest of the uhh... unsavory characters in the CPM.
As dubious as I am to admit it, CEOPyrex put it best when he said that I get easily frustrated when I don't have justifiable answers to things. Even worse when I feel like I'm not being listened to or when I'm being trolled. IMO, Hans Jagerblizen was the best CPM and since he left I kinda feel like there's no-one to actually have those engaging conversations with as to why something can or cannot work, what should or should not be implemented, etc.
It's a really pain in the kitten to try and hit someone up on Skype and never get a response. It's even worse to come here on the forums and be met with a stonewall barrier that basically says, "Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong" and "blah blah blah bias" and Soraya isn't the only one who does it.
IMO, a perfect CPM representative engages with players even when the idea sounds hair brained. They read between the lines of what a person is trying to say rather than what their saying. They don't waste time trying to argue as to why it's a bad idea but instead try to find reasons why it's a good idea. Admittedly, Zatara, you're more reasonable than most when it comes to that but you sort of just.... disappeared.
But anyway.
EDIT: It also helps to have some semblance of a kittening clue as to what the hell players are talking about instead of pretending like you know what you're talking about.... but this doesn't usually apply to you, Zatara.
Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5014
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Posted - 2015.01.20 05:38:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:
Zatara we all love you <3 <3 <3
I miss playing with you homie <3
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
Final's week sucks :'(
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5014
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Posted - 2015.01.20 05:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
In retrospect I might have come off a bit unfairly toward you, specifically, Zatara. I won't make excuses toward that and I apologize for grouping you in with the rest of the uhh... unsavory characters in the CPM.
As dubious as I am to admit it, CEOPyrex put it best when he said that I get easily frustrated when I don't have justifiable answers to things. Even worse when I feel like I'm not being listened to or when I'm being trolled. IMO, Hans Jagerblizen was the best CPM and since he left I kinda feel like there's no-one to actually have those engaging conversations with as to why something can or cannot work, what should or should not be implemented, etc.
It's a really pain in the kitten to try and hit someone up on Skype and never get a response. It's even worse to come here on the forums and be met with a stonewall barrier that basically says, "Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong" and "blah blah blah bias" and Soraya isn't the only one who does it.
IMO, a perfect CPM representative engages with players even when the idea sounds hair brained. They read between the lines of what a person is trying to say rather than what their saying. They don't waste time trying to argue as to why it's a bad idea but instead try to find reasons why it's a good idea. Admittedly, Zatara, you're more reasonable than most when it comes to that but you sort of just.... disappeared.
But anyway.
EDIT: It also helps to have some semblance of a kittening clue as to what the hell players are talking about instead of pretending like you know what you're talking about.... but this doesn't usually apply to you, Zatara.
I try my very hardest not to pretend I know something if I don't.
I've been wrong more times than right, but I hope that each time i'm wrong i can learn from it and be more correct in the future.
And I love stimulating conversation...I do hope that in the future when you message me i'll be around my friend.
And I apologize for accusing you unjustly. My absence went without a public explanation. And it has been my fault for not providing the explanation I hope serves adequately as an excuse.
I love listening to harebrained ideas as previously posted. If I did not communicate properly even if I have gut reactions I am ALWAYS enthralled to hear a person out.
I see we mentioned sniping and I actually still have an open invitation to symbiotic if I manage to ever get him back on dust to show me what i've been missing out on. We've had extensive conversations and concluded them with 100% agreement based on mutual respect for differing opinions and a willingness to hear the other person out...despite both of us being guilty of being long winded at times. :P
I digress. Again, I'm very appreciative of the compliment and hope I will soon be able to engage the community again on the level I did prior to the holidays
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
Final's week sucks :'(
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18368
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Posted - 2015.01.20 06:12:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I have not been playing dust for about 40 days now. I've rarely played video games at all aside from pixel dungeon (it's a fun free roguelike on the play store for those interested) and dragon age rarely. I mainly use email and skype to keep up these days and have not abandoned or cut ties with anyone. Kane can confirm I spent about an hour just the other day debating the merits of fixed timers in PC among other things. This is an inopportune time for me to be judged on not playing but when you get caught with your pants down some explanation is required I feel so here's mine. I have more hours on this game than any other cpm member. I actually had (haven't checked in some time) more kills in the game than 4 of my fellow CPM members combined. I may well have dropped out of the top 250 for all time kills by now. I had to stop playing for 2 reasons lately: 1.) finals, holidays, and then now my final semester. This is all much more time intensive this year as opposed to last year when I was in the thick of it fighting to establish my newly created corp and helping Outer Heaven in the Winter War as it is now remembered. 2.) One of my puppies (Sirius) became life threateningly sick and it ended up costing me an exorbitant amount of money to save his life. This has been a very trying time in my life, one I was ill prepared for after having enjoyed christmas, after having returned a lot of gifts i'm still attempting to pay down 4k worth of debt incurred to say nothing of the excruciating damper the whole affair had on the break. Here's a pic after the surgery. Yeah...very upsetting. So I do apologize and hope you might find it in each of you to forgive my heretofore unexplained absence from playing. I recognize this may be a tad bit personal and this may not excuse me regardless with any of you. However, there it is. The cat is out of the bag, so to speak. I have plans to return to dust as soon as I can. And in the meantime I am focused on attempting to fulfill my duties I have been entrusted (I freely admit I have so much to learn and improve on) and pray the community would not have me hand in my resignation despite my inadequacies of late.
I will confirm that Zatara has been despite all the things going on his end a diligent CPM member.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14519
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Posted - 2015.01.20 06:14:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:However, there it is. The cat is out of the bag, so to speak. Finally, FFS I've been stuck in there for weeks!
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
2200
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Posted - 2015.01.20 06:37:00 -
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I apologize for calling you out Zatara, had no idea about your puppy.
Best of luck with his recovery.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5017
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Posted - 2015.01.20 06:43:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:I apologize for calling you out Zatara, had no idea about your puppy.
Best of luck with his recovery.
And that wasn't your fault, my post was a few weeks coming. Thank you for the kick in the butt that forced me to sit down and type it all up.
I'm sorry as well Moss, but happy now we're on the same page. Happy hunting and hope that I'll be able to get back out there soon(not TM).
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
Final's week sucks :'(
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
5480
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Posted - 2015.01.20 07:44:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:
I will ask your help interpreting what I read wrong later then. :/ Because I was pretty confident.
Didn't you tell me you used to snipe 'a lot'? How could you not see this change..?
Actually still think I'm right. Trying to get IWS to tell me what I'm seeing wrong on the spreadsheet. Snipers got a buff, man.
Aeon Amadi wrote:Even more of a shame that I feel like I have to wait for the CPM2 to come around to be able to talk to anyone that actually cares about anyone's opinion other than their own.
If nobody on CPM2 listens to you either will you start to realize part of the CPM's job is to filter out bad feedback and that your feedback was bad when it was ignored?
Or will it just mean two bad CPMs were elected?
As irritating as your attitude is, you have some good ideas buried in there, and yes, I do read your posts and try to dig them out. But I'm not going to apologize for disregarding blatantly ridiculous suggestions with a clear role bias.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7916
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Posted - 2015.01.20 08:20:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:
I will ask your help interpreting what I read wrong later then. :/ Because I was pretty confident.
Didn't you tell me you used to snipe 'a lot'? How could you not see this change..? Actually still think I'm right. Trying to get IWS to tell me what I'm seeing wrong on the spreadsheet. Snipers got a buff, man. Aeon Amadi wrote:Even more of a shame that I feel like I have to wait for the CPM2 to come around to be able to talk to anyone that actually cares about anyone's opinion other than their own. If nobody on CPM2 listens to you either will you start to realize part of the CPM's job is to filter out bad feedback and that your feedback was bad when it was ignored? Or will it just mean two bad CPMs were elected? As irritating as your attitude is, you have some good ideas buried in there, and yes, I do read your posts and try to dig them out. But I'm not going to apologize for disregarding blatantly ridiculous suggestions with a clear role bias.
Again, what role does it play..?
There aren't any ways that a Sniper can benefit it's team besides equipment disposal and the killing of high value targets. Range reduction further encourages redline sniping for reasons mentioned. Without communication (something a sniper can't really do in PC when comms need to be clear) that 'role' serves literally no purpose. Proposals to influence team-based gameplay are considered dev taxing and anything else is considered 'bad feedback'.
I've asked before but never received an answer: What are snipers supposed to do -OTHER- than shoot from the redline if there is nothing anyone is willing to do to change it?
And as for 'disregarding blatantly ridiculous suggestions with a clear role bias' maybe you should actually read what people are saying instead of writing it off as bias... Symbiotic's suggestions on the Charge sniper were far from over-powering and there isn't anything 'bias' about wanting hit detection that actually works.
Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
5255
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Posted - 2015.01.20 09:20:00 -
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This thread - which even in its less-derailed form should not be allowed to continue - is now locked. I will echo once again Rattati's reply here and say that we are constantly talking with the CPM in addition to our daily tasks that also cover reading all your feedback right here on our forums.
CPM's activity stretches far beyond their play time or number of kills in game - and that also covers their community interaction, discussion and meetings with us - and that within itself is in some ways even more valuable to us.
If you wish to discuss anything specific further - please use The Council's Chamber forum section located here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=1334
Thank you.
CCP Frame
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