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Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 19:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Solution: get in a squad.
Maybe you can assist me with resolving this technical problem:
Whenever I am in a squad, I experience huge amounts of lag. It's about double the amount of lag that I usually experience.
Whenever I am on comms in a squad, I experience even more lag to the point that I cannot tell what is happening in the game and I just listen in to my squad to see what is happening during that battle.
What can I do to fix that?
I have a 25 Mbps connection with <1 ms jitter and my ps3 is fully operational and running a SSD. I use the America server (which experience shows gives me the least amount of lag). I adjusted my ps3 settings for optimal networking capabilities. I have an ethernet cable directly connected to my ps3.
Oh, if there is no resolution to this problem, then is it okay with you if some people don't play in squads? |
Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 19:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:oh look, another "i hate logistics" thread from Clone D. He is terribly upset that bandwidth exists and he can no longer farm WPs by the thousand Your jabs are pointless, rip. My battle performance reflects my dominance regardless of what hoops I have to jump through. And I do it with MLT and STD gear, with hundreds of millions to spare. I have nothing to prove to you.
I only make comments about gameplay, especially when the level of fun is being constrained by losers who can't keep up. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:06:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Maybe you can assist me with resolving this technical problem I'm not your tech support Figure it out on your own. Perform a clean install of Dust 514. That helped Dust's performance on my machine.
Clone D wrote:Oh, if there is no resolution to this problem, then is it okay with you if some people don't play in squads? If you want to play solo, that's fine. Just accept that you are going to miss out on some things this game has to offer because it is a squad-based game. One of those things is the ability to coordinate equipment loadouts.
Clone D wrote:Your jabs are pointless, rip. My battle performance reflects my dominance regardless of what hoops I have to jump through. And I do it with MLT and STD gear, with hundreds of millions to spare. I have nothing to prove to you.
I only make comments about gameplay, especially when the level of fun is being constrained by losers who can't keep up. Those losers are other solo blueberries, like you. The mercs who are squadding, and their logis, are supporting one another. When they need links they say, "Hey Mark, drop some links at bravo." And then Mark ******* does it.
You are just screaming at other blues when you yourself have made the same decision they did: to run without friends.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:12:00 -
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Also, it's important to note that assault and commandos can fit uplinks. Uplinks are not a logi-only piece of equipment.
Forego RE's on your fittings and fit uplinks if you are really THAT upset.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:to run without friends.
Just because you need a squad to carry you through battle doesn't mean that logis are doing their jobs. Any time that the battlefield is completely absent of friendly uplinks, or the team is being stampeded by ground vehicles and there are no proximity explosives, a logi somewhere is not doing his / her job. That is the point of the thread. Logis aren't doing their jobs.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:16:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Just because you need a squad to carry you through battle doesn't mean that logis are doing their jobs. Any time that the battlefield is completely absent of friendly uplinks, or the team is being stampeded by ground vehicles and there are no proximity explosives, a logi somewhere is not doing his / her job. That is the point of the thread. Logis aren't doing their jobs.
Ripley Riley wrote:Also, it's important to note that assault and commandos can fit uplinks. Uplinks are not a logi-only piece of equipment. Basically, what you are saying, is that blueberries aren't doing their jobs... because logis are not the only ones who can fit an uplink.
You don't like blueberries? Turn them into tealberries.
And your jabs are pointless, Clone
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:18:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:to run without friends. Just because you need a squad to carry you through battle doesn't mean that logis are doing their jobs. Any time that the battlefield is completely absent of friendly uplinks, or the team is being stampeded by ground vehicles and there are no proximity explosives, a logi somewhere is not doing his / her job. That is the point of the thread. Logis aren't doing their jobs.
Yeah D, but all the blame can't always fall on Logis, others carry equipment also. |
Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:20:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Those losers are other solo blueberries, like you. The mercs who are squadding, and their logis, are supporting one another. When they need links they say, "Hey Mark, drop some links at bravo." And then Mark ******* does it.
You are just screaming at other blues when you yourself have made the same decision they did: to run without friends.
LOL.
Case closed.
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:21:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Clone D wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:to run without friends. Just because you need a squad to carry you through battle doesn't mean that logis are doing their jobs. Any time that the battlefield is completely absent of friendly uplinks, or the team is being stampeded by ground vehicles and there are no proximity explosives, a logi somewhere is not doing his / her job. That is the point of the thread. Logis aren't doing their jobs. Yeah D, but all the blame can't always fall on Logis, others carry equipment also.
I agree, however, if you expect other roles to "assist" with the logi role, then don't limit their bandwidth so much. Need a little breathing room to do a logi's job and another job. Ya know.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:26:00 -
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Clone D wrote:I agree, however, if you expect other roles to "assist" with the logi role, then don't limit their bandwidth so much. Need a little breathing room to do a logi's job and another job. Ya know. One of the fittings I run is an advanced assault with advanced uplinks. 2 deployable at once, 15 spawns per. I can assist an Amarr logi with dropping uplinks just fine.
Maybe you need to stop running militia and standard. You know the higher tiers of dropsuit have more bandwidth, right?
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:28:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:I agree, however, if you expect other roles to "assist" with the logi role, then don't limit their bandwidth so much. Need a little breathing room to do a logi's job and another job. Ya know. I run an advanced assault with advanced uplinks. 2 deployable at once, 15 spawns per. I can assist an Amarr logi with dropping uplinks just fine. Maybe you need to stop running militia and standard. You know the higher tiers of dropsuit have more bandwidth, right?
I do the same |
Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:28:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:I agree, however, if you expect other roles to "assist" with the logi role, then don't limit their bandwidth so much. Need a little breathing room to do a logi's job and another job. Ya know. I run an advanced assault with advanced uplinks. 2 deployable at once, 15 spawns per. I can assist an Amarr logi with dropping uplinks just fine. Maybe you need to stop running militia and standard. You know the higher tiers of dropsuit have more bandwidth, right?
Yes, to resolve team uplink problems, I deploy 4 proto uplinks and then change into a proto assault suit. Still, there is an expectation for other roles to pitch in. That is what I'm saying. Many other roles are expected to be a logi helper in addition to the role that they perform. We need an additional degree of freedom in order to do two jobs at once. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:31:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Yes, to resolve team uplink problems, I deploy 4 proto uplinks and then change into a proto assault suit. Still, there is an expectation for other roles to pitch in. That is what I'm saying. Many other roles are expected to be a logi helper in addition to the role that they perform. We need an additional degree of freedom in order to do two jobs at once. I know what you are trying to complain about, but really, when you boil it all down you are upset because your teammates are not pulling their weight.
At first, you were upset at specifically logi teammates, but then we pointed out that several dropsuits can fit uplinks. It's not logis that aren't pulling their weight, it's the team itself. Want a stronger team...
Wait for it...
Here it comes...
Get in a squad with 5 other mercs and coordinate your equipment loadouts.
You say that for technical reasons you can't squad up. Get those issues worked out then come back to Dust 514.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:32:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Logis pushed for sole propriety over equipment. They got it, and now what?
Logis are doing the one thing that they know how to do. Latch onto a heavy and hold R1 for the remainder of the match.
Do your jobs logis. If you see a battlefield with all red letters and no friendly uplinks, then you didn't do your job. Learn how to prevent that.
A Logi is not a Rep-tool slave... so there are no logis...
I-Śm a Logi, Gallente one, my "work" is scan the map... to see the enemy position. also I-Śm do the derpship..., put uplinks, rep... and stab clones with a nano inyect....
BUT I have a scout that also drops a link or stab clones...
IF you are a "assault", put a droplink, or nano inject... not only nano hives...
A real Logi is bring SUPPORT. not do the other roles jobs.
I have never see a scout... "scouting..." there are like a slim ninjas with a shotgun or knives doing the ASSAULT JOB. |
Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:You say that for technical reasons you can't squad up. Get those issues worked out then come back to Dust 514.
This is the kind of elitist exclusion that the n.a.z.i.s believed in. If you didn't meet their criteria, then you were exterminated. They had a eugenics program to propagate the perfect race.
If you can't make room for people who are different than you are, then I have to say that either you have failed to achieve complete cognitive development, or you fall into the political position called fascism.
I'm different than you. There is a place in the game for me too. <----- Start here. |
Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:45:00 -
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1. Told you so
2. If you want more than 6 links and good ones at that im not busting out a proto suit for you in a pub match
3. You will accept that militia uplink and like it because that is all you are going to get if im forced to stay as a logi and not allowed to swap to any other suit for any other situation
4. You reap what you sow, now deal with it |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:46:00 -
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Clone D wrote:This is the kind of elitist exclusion that the n.a.z.i.s believed in. If you didn't meet their criteria, then you were exterminated. They had a eugenics program to propagate the perfect race.
If you can't make room for people who are different than you are, then I have to say that either you have failed to achieve complete cognitive development, or you fall into the political position called fascism.
I'm different than you. There is a place in the game for me too. <----- Start here. And here we arrive at Godwin's Law. Also, way to bypass the profanity fitler.
No one is forcing you to run in a squad, just as if no one is forcing you to run solo. You get a few advantages by running solo: you don't have to wait on Mark the logi to get finished eating dinner before you can queue up. You don't need to worry about Scotty dropping one member of the squad out of sink while the rest stay in the queue.
In exchange, you lose quite a few capabilities on the battlefield.
You are making a choice to solo. Live with it. If the negatives of soloing upset you then find a squad.
It's similar to Eve Online actually. You can go completely solo in that game if you like. Run missions, mine asteroids, build ships. It's boring though and you a loner so you lack support. You have to invest in your comrades; trust them, help them, then they help you.
TL;DR - You can absolutely solo. It's just ******* stupid.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
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LAVALLOIS Nash
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:47:00 -
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I agree with most of your points, but i dont care for the way you spell squad.
Thor Odinson42 wrote:For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad.
People would rather solo. Solo logi throwing out links and crossing their fingers for blueberries to show up is a pretty futile effort.
No offense, but that is more of an assumption than fact. Ive been doing the solo logi since I started playing. You presume that because im not in a squad that has specifically requested one based on a goal, that I wont be able to properly place it to need the need.
Its infact, not the case. I know most of the maps and installations/sockets well, and I have a good idea of not only where to put uplinks for best longevity, but also where the enemy counterattack will come from. I know how to use the Overhead. Ive been using it since i started playing. I can see whos pushing what, where enemy activity is and what needs to go where next.
Clone D wrote:
I'm different than you. There is a place in the game for me too. <----- Start here.
Some people either dont get or dont respect the solo player thing. Nothing to do except keeping being solo and proving them wrong.
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Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:48:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:I-Śm a Logi, Gallente one, my "work" is scan the map... to see the enemy position. also I-Śm do the derpship..., put uplinks, rep... and stab clones with a nano inyect....
BUT I have a scout that also drops a link or stab clones...
IF you are a "assault", put a droplink, or nano inject... not only nano hives...
A real Logi is bring SUPPORT. not do the other roles jobs.
I have never see a scout... "scouting..." there are like a slim ninjas with a shotgun or knives doing the ASSAULT JOB.
This is what I'm getting at. Other roles ARE EXPECTED TO DO TWO JOBS. Instead of carrying the equipment they need to get their job done, it is expected that they carry equipment to HELP LOGIS DO THEIR JOB.
You say you want to bring support but not do the other roles' jobs. I want to be an assault and not do a logi's job.
If you want me to do a logi's job in addition to my role, then grant me some additional bandwidth breathing space to do two jobs.
Initially, logis were angry because people were doing two jobs, but now they are saying, help us with our support jobs, implying that they need everyone else to perform two jobs because logis can't get the job done.
Logis, make up your minds. Do you want the rest of us to do two roles or one role? If one role, then please do your job so that the rest of us don't have to.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:51:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad.
People would rather solo. Solo logi throwing out links and crossing their fingers for blueberries to show up is a pretty futile effort.
ab-so-f**king-lutley amount of times when solo i'll flank round and put a scatter of uplinks in various places surround ing the enemy from all sides yet the dumbass bluedots just spawn right on the front to die just as quickly as the last time and hearign them ***** that they're 'stuck'
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:53:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:You say that for technical reasons you can't squad up. Get those issues worked out then come back to Dust 514. This is the kind of elitist exclusion that the n.a.z.i.s believed in. If you didn't meet their criteria, then you were exterminated. They had a eugenics program to propagate the perfect race. If you can't make room for people who are different than you are, then I have to say that either you have failed to achieve complete cognitive development, or you fall into the political position called fascism. I'm different than you. There is a place in the game for me too. <----- Start here.
Your not going to let this go are you D? lol, he's only trying to help you focus on a solution to your problem, nothing more. There's a great saying "Spend 10% of your time on the problem and 90% on the solution". |
TritusX
PH4NT0M5
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:54:00 -
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Clone, you're just playing all the wrong matches. Everything would be better with me here. As a young, clueless logi, aspiring to be the top of his class, I do whatever I can. I drop uplinks. I put nanohives at my team's common camp/reunion spot. I rep people in that area because they most likely came back wounded. I follow a group of people back into battle with a rep tool and keep them well until the enemy is gone. Oh no! The enemy has destroyed one of my links! Good thing I have a link midway between that one!
These days, there simply aren't any logi's at all. In every match I logi'd in, I was either with 1. No logi at all, supported the whole team by myself 2. A squad with their own logi's doing their own thing 3. Too many logi's that don't know what they're doing aka. uplinks in the same spot, etc.
Just squad up with a logi. Don't ask him to do anything, just say some random stuff every now and then to keep him in the match with you.
Minja and Minlogi at your service
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Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:55:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:I'm different than you. There is a place in the game for me too. <----- Start here. And here we arrive at Godwin's Law.
If you don't want to be considered affiliated with certain political regimes, then lead the conversation with tolerance, inclusion and understanding of cultural differences. I would like to see you behave in this way so we can hold more mature conversations in the future. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:59:00 -
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Clone D wrote:
This is what I'm getting at. Other roles ARE EXPECTED TO DO TWO JOBS. Instead of carrying the equipment they need to get their job done, it is expected that they carry equipment to HELP LOGIS DO THEIR JOB.
You say you want to bring support but not do the other roles' jobs. I want to be an assault and not do a logi's job.
If you want me to do a logi's job in addition to my role, then grant me some additional bandwidth breathing space to do two jobs.
Initially, logis were angry because people were doing two jobs, but now they are saying, help us with our support jobs, implying that they need everyone else to perform two jobs because logis can't get the job done.
Logis, make up your minds. Do you want the rest of us to do two roles or one role? If one role, then please do your job so that the rest of us don't have to.
what equipment do you need to do your job. from what this whole argument is about it seems you need uplinks to do your job. carry some.
All Hail Legion
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:01:00 -
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Clone D wrote:If you don't want to be considered affiliated with certain political regimes, then lead the conversation with tolerance, inclusion and understanding of cultural differences. I would like to see you behave in this way so we can hold more mature conversations in the future. I'm not against your solo playstyle, Clone. Really. It's just not the playstyle that suits this game very well. You must realize this by now.
Most of the complaints you have had all stem from running solo. Why do you think that is? It's because this game isn't suited for solo play. It's a massive multiplayer online game that features things like squads and corporations; ways for players to come together, not stay apart.
I'll draw your attention back to my Eve Online statement: you CAN solo in Eve Online, it's just boring and you hamstring yourself. The same logic holds true in Dust 514.
I didn't design the game this way. CCP did. They knew what they were doing. Players who group together continue to play a game much longer than players who run by themselves.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:03:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:I agree with most of your points, but i dont care for the way you spell squad. Thor Odinson42 wrote:For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad.
People would rather solo. Solo logi throwing out links and crossing their fingers for blueberries to show up is a pretty futile effort.
No offense, but that is more of an assumption than fact. Ive been doing the solo logi since I started playing. You presume that because im not in a squad that has specifically requested one based on a goal, that I wont be able to properly place it to meet the need. Its infact, not the case. I know most of the maps and installations/sockets well, and I have a good idea of not only where to put uplinks for best longevity, but also where the enemy counterattack will come from. I know how to use the Overhead. Ive been using it since i started playing. I can see whos pushing what, where enemy activity is and what needs to go where next. Clone D wrote:
I'm different than you. There is a place in the game for me too. <----- Start here.
Some people either dont get or dont respect the solo player thing. Nothing to do except keeping being solo and proving them wrong.
If you are a good player you can logi solo, but it isn't likely to be efficient as being in a squad communicating with the players you are supporting. I don't put a disclaimer on every post. I play solo as well.
But how about we all get behind finding a better scenario than 5-6 solo players at the bottom of every leaderboard that's going 1-3 with less than 200 WP. I'm being conservative with those numbers too.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5648
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:05:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad.
People would rather solo. Solo logi throwing out links and crossing their fingers for blueberries to show up is a pretty futile effort.
ab-so-f**king-lutley amount of times when solo i'll flank round and put a scatter of uplinks in various places surround ing the enemy from all sides yet the dumbass bluedots just spawn right on the front to die just as quickly as the last time and hearign them ***** that they're 'stuck'
I call it a suicide link.
You run near an object, place an uplink and frantically do 360s trying to defend it.
Then you notice some ahole has deployed 768 uplinks in elevated positions at least 200 meters from the ground. I know they are all laughing at the try hard below.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:07:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Clone D wrote:
This is what I'm getting at. Other roles ARE EXPECTED TO DO TWO JOBS. Instead of carrying the equipment they need to get their job done, it is expected that they carry equipment to HELP LOGIS DO THEIR JOB.
You say you want to bring support but not do the other roles' jobs. I want to be an assault and not do a logi's job.
If you want me to do a logi's job in addition to my role, then grant me some additional bandwidth breathing space to do two jobs.
Initially, logis were angry because people were doing two jobs, but now they are saying, help us with our support jobs, implying that they need everyone else to perform two jobs because logis can't get the job done.
Logis, make up your minds. Do you want the rest of us to do two roles or one role? If one role, then please do your job so that the rest of us don't have to.
what equipment do you need to do your job. from what this whole argument is about it seems you need uplinks to do your job. carry some.
If I run assault, I want some REs or a nanohive. I don't want to have to carry around an uplink, although for those who do I'm glad that it fits into their equipment slot. Amarr logi is specifically designed to disburse uplinks. I don't want to have to be a redundancy of their role and do it less effectively because an assault doesn't have uplink bonuses, and because I need a different piece of equipment to do my job well. |
Clone D
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:20:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:If you don't want to be considered affiliated with certain political regimes, then lead the conversation with tolerance, inclusion and understanding of cultural differences. I would like to see you behave in this way so we can hold more mature conversations in the future. I'm not against your solo playstyle, Clone. Really. It's just not the playstyle that suits this game very well. You must realize this by now. Most of the complaints you have had all stem from running solo. Why do you think that is? It's because this game isn't suited for solo play. It's a massive multiplayer online game that features things like squads and corporations; ways for players to come together, not stay apart. I'll draw your attention back to my Eve Online statement: you CAN solo in Eve Online, it's just boring and you hamstring yourself. The same logic holds true in Dust 514. I didn't design the game this way. CCP did. They knew what they were doing. Players who group together continue to play a game much longer than players who run by themselves.
Yes, while I acknowledge your perspective, the game works just fine for me as a solo player. The core of this conversation is this:
Other roles are helping logis do support. Logis are saying that assaults can/should equip an uplink, scouts can/should equip PEs, etc.
Clearly if I play as a scout, assault or what have you, and I trade off the equipment I need to perform my role more effectively in favor of an uplink or PEs because I know that logis need help with support, then this shows a break down in the degree to which bandwidth has been implemented (only if it is expected that other roles support logis). If that is the case, then we need bandwidth to reflect that expectation.
If it is not the case and everyone should only do one role, then we need logis to do their jobs better and ensure that the equipment distribution appropriately reflects the context of that match. That responsibility is somewhat larger than a single squad. It is a team level need. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5650
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:21:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Clone D wrote:
This is what I'm getting at. Other roles ARE EXPECTED TO DO TWO JOBS. Instead of carrying the equipment they need to get their job done, it is expected that they carry equipment to HELP LOGIS DO THEIR JOB.
You say you want to bring support but not do the other roles' jobs. I want to be an assault and not do a logi's job.
If you want me to do a logi's job in addition to my role, then grant me some additional bandwidth breathing space to do two jobs.
Initially, logis were angry because people were doing two jobs, but now they are saying, help us with our support jobs, implying that they need everyone else to perform two jobs because logis can't get the job done.
Logis, make up your minds. Do you want the rest of us to do two roles or one role? If one role, then please do your job so that the rest of us don't have to.
what equipment do you need to do your job. from what this whole argument is about it seems you need uplinks to do your job. carry some. If I run assault, I want some REs or a nanohive. I don't want to have to carry around an uplink, although for those who do I'm glad that it fits into their equipment slot. Amarr logi is specifically designed to disburse uplinks. I don't want to have to be a redundancy of their role and do it less effectively because an assault doesn't have uplink bonuses, and because I need a different piece of equipment to do my job well.
What if the other 15 players that spawned in with you solo all play with the exact same fitting and playstyle that you do?
This is the problem with having so many solo players. What if there are 3 dudes that just happen to be trying out tanks for the first time? Same match there are 3 dudes in a Gorgon trying to get kill assists for their daily missions, etc.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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