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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:40:00 -
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For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad.
People would rather solo. Solo logi throwing out links and crossing their fingers for blueberries to show up is a pretty futile effort.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5640
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Posted - 2015.01.07 19:04:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad. [...] Sounds lke the logi union catch phrase. NO NO NO. I as an assault have to stop what I'm doing, change into a logi suit, call a dropship and set uplinks around the field, to create a doorway back into battle. IF I CAN DO IT. A LOGI WHO SPECCED INTO THAT ROLE CAN DO IT. Do your jobs logis.
Winning doesn't matter in pubs. It's pretty much the answer to every problem in Dust.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5641
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Posted - 2015.01.07 19:23:00 -
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I find it more odd that blueberries that are sniping aren't able to see the 10 dudes on the pipes dropping remotes.
Or the 4 dropships flying around with no AV to be seen.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5644
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Posted - 2015.01.07 19:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:oh look, another "i hate logistics" thread from Clone D. He is terribly upset that bandwidth exists and he can no longer farm WPs by the thousand 
It seems that way.
I'm a big fan of the bandwidth because it's given logis a role again, but there is still no incentive to win matches. Logis are important to winning matches. Logis perform better in squads. Squading isn't a priority because winning isn't important.
Lots of balance issues would be solved or more easily fixed if they incentivized winning. I think the fallout from that would fix sooo many issues that have plagued Dust for a long time.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5648
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:03:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:I agree with most of your points, but i dont care for the way you spell squad. Thor Odinson42 wrote:For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad.
People would rather solo. Solo logi throwing out links and crossing their fingers for blueberries to show up is a pretty futile effort.
No offense, but that is more of an assumption than fact. Ive been doing the solo logi since I started playing. You presume that because im not in a squad that has specifically requested one based on a goal, that I wont be able to properly place it to meet the need. Its infact, not the case. I know most of the maps and installations/sockets well, and I have a good idea of not only where to put uplinks for best longevity, but also where the enemy counterattack will come from. I know how to use the Overhead. Ive been using it since i started playing. I can see whos pushing what, where enemy activity is and what needs to go where next. Clone D wrote:
I'm different than you. There is a place in the game for me too. <----- Start here.
Some people either dont get or dont respect the solo player thing. Nothing to do except keeping being solo and proving them wrong.
If you are a good player you can logi solo, but it isn't likely to be efficient as being in a squad communicating with the players you are supporting. I don't put a disclaimer on every post. I play solo as well.
But how about we all get behind finding a better scenario than 5-6 solo players at the bottom of every leaderboard that's going 1-3 with less than 200 WP. I'm being conservative with those numbers too.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5648
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:05:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:For logis to work properly they need to be supporting a squad.
People would rather solo. Solo logi throwing out links and crossing their fingers for blueberries to show up is a pretty futile effort.
ab-so-f**king-lutley amount of times when solo i'll flank round and put a scatter of uplinks in various places surround ing the enemy from all sides yet the dumbass bluedots just spawn right on the front to die just as quickly as the last time and hearign them ***** that they're 'stuck'
I call it a suicide link.
You run near an object, place an uplink and frantically do 360s trying to defend it.
Then you notice some ahole has deployed 768 uplinks in elevated positions at least 200 meters from the ground. I know they are all laughing at the try hard below.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5650
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Posted - 2015.01.07 21:21:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Clone D wrote:
This is what I'm getting at. Other roles ARE EXPECTED TO DO TWO JOBS. Instead of carrying the equipment they need to get their job done, it is expected that they carry equipment to HELP LOGIS DO THEIR JOB.
You say you want to bring support but not do the other roles' jobs. I want to be an assault and not do a logi's job.
If you want me to do a logi's job in addition to my role, then grant me some additional bandwidth breathing space to do two jobs.
Initially, logis were angry because people were doing two jobs, but now they are saying, help us with our support jobs, implying that they need everyone else to perform two jobs because logis can't get the job done.
Logis, make up your minds. Do you want the rest of us to do two roles or one role? If one role, then please do your job so that the rest of us don't have to.
what equipment do you need to do your job. from what this whole argument is about it seems you need uplinks to do your job. carry some. If I run assault, I want some REs or a nanohive. I don't want to have to carry around an uplink, although for those who do I'm glad that it fits into their equipment slot. Amarr logi is specifically designed to disburse uplinks. I don't want to have to be a redundancy of their role and do it less effectively because an assault doesn't have uplink bonuses, and because I need a different piece of equipment to do my job well.
What if the other 15 players that spawned in with you solo all play with the exact same fitting and playstyle that you do?
This is the problem with having so many solo players. What if there are 3 dudes that just happen to be trying out tanks for the first time? Same match there are 3 dudes in a Gorgon trying to get kill assists for their daily missions, etc.
Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
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