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deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1244	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:26:00 - [1] - Quote Just for fun I bought 5 keys to open my strong boxes and I got Special Edition frontline special edition frontline neo assault ak0 caldari c-1 darths gio scrambler I would say that is a decent mix of salvage and we will see if the types stay as good when not using AUR keys. Anyway my actual feedback is that the keys cost a little too much AUR imo. Somewhere in the area of 4-500 AUR would likely lead to people being a bit more likely to take a gamble with purchasing a key. Oh and the orange notification bubble has got to go. Once inventory is checked these should disappear. We already deal with boosters being shoved down our throats by an annoying orange bubble, please dont make these the same way. I am already at a point where I miss mail and forget to restock thanks to the glowing buy booster bubble.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2246	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:36:00 - [2] - Quote Interesting. I am the bluedot. And I will rise again.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13085	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:37:00 - [3] - Quote Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 171	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:56:00 - [4] - Quote As a suggestion could we maybe get an 'officer store' where you redeem tokens (light, heavy, sidearm, grade 1-3) so that we don't get loot we don't want? I for example only use lasers, scramblers and the occasional magsec. In fact I think that getting redemption tokens for suits would be nice too as I'm currently offered logic loop scout suits and some of my alts are offered other suits they can't/don't use. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:57:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. Other than the special edition frontline suits I would say that I felt like I got my moneys worth. I definitely had a little fun with the surprise of what is it going to produce. All in all out of 5 times I would consider it 2 wins and 3 losses but not severe losses. This system will be GREAT once we get simple trading. Good job guys.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:58:00 - [6] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: As a suggestion could we maybe get an 'officer store' where you redeem tokens (light, heavy, sidearm, grade 1-3) so that we don't get loot we don't want? I for example only use lasers, scramblers and the occasional magsec. In fact I think that getting redemption tokens for suits would be nice too as I'm currently offered logic loop scout suits and some of my alts are offered other suits they can't/don't use. This will be less needed once we get simple trading. People opening boxes and trading officer weapons is going to make the game a lot more fun.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13108	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:04:00 - [7] - Quote Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 172	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:08:00 - [8] - Quote That doesn't sound too bad either. And in the case of officer weapons with multiple desireable variants it provides a chance to not just get the 'best' variant (forges / snipers / ARs) Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3287	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:08:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. +1 for horadric cube. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet". My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5437	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:10:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? My advice to you, playa...

MEDICO RITARDATO Dead Man's Game RUST415 359	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:14:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. There is any possibility to get any BPO? The pen is on the table. TheD1CK is a scrub.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:15:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. This would be pretty awesome.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2875	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:23:00 - [13] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 6011	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:24:00 - [14] - Quote Rattati gets all of my love for the horadric cube reference. Never forget More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1297	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:28:00 - [15] - Quote how many suits do you get? random? or is it just 1. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:32:00 - [16] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: how many suits do you get? random? or is it just 1. I dont remember the number of the others but the Amarr assault ak0s i got like 18 of them. Based on what I saw you receive things based on your skills. For example The Caldari suits I received 'Neo' suits (I am not skilled into these at all) The Amarr suits I got regular proto (I am level 5) The officer weapon was a ScR (I am level 5 prof) Aside from the officer weapon which can not be valued I would say I got right around 800 AUR worth of items so this is likely the basis for how many of which suits or weapons you get.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13121	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:37:00 - [17] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Baltasar Bruno MORBID KILL CREW 0	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:04:00 - [18] - Quote Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so.[/quote] Hmm.... Interesting..
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 173	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:10:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Hoarding is a sign of mental illness, please seek professional help Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Baltasar Bruno MORBID KILL CREW 0	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:12:00 - [20] - Quote Smart move Rattati, smart move.

Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 416	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:13:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Awesome. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2688	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:21:00 - [22] - Quote I dont see how any of those things are worth the AUR. Even the officer weapon is not in my opinion worth what is it, 800 AUR? You must be crazy. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2511	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:39:00 - [23] - Quote My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2511	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:42:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Collect what? The unopened boxes? Officer weapons?

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13140	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:48:00 - [25] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. sounds like bad luck, but there is a fine line between not enough officer items and too many. Keep using your daily mission keys, it should pay off. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13143	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:49:00 - [26] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Collect what? The unopened boxes? Officer weapons? Officer weapons for sure. I kill one kitten for every officer weapon sold to Vendor. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

matsumoto yuichi san The Elite Few Inc. The Methodical Alliance 95	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:49:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. TF2 Style :P

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13143	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:50:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I dont see how any of those things are worth the AUR. Even the officer weapon is not in my opinion worth what is it, 800 AUR? You must be crazy. Well, on the market, those items would go a long way up to the 800, if not more. Also, you might get more than one officer weapon in a box. And even an officer dropsuit. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 182	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:55:00 - [29] - Quote Did anybody got a key without paying aurum?
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC 94	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:55:00 - [30] - Quote Baltasar Bruno wrote: "Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so." Hmm.... Interesting.. Yes very interesting *ScReWeD uP InC* *Recruit BPO's*

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2512	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:58:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Collect what? The unopened boxes? Officer weapons? Officer weapons for sure. I kill one kitten for every officer weapon sold to Vendor. Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like you're foreshadowing the crafting stuff.... Agreed on the killing kittens part. I've never sold one, and have no plans to.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 418	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:00:00 - [32] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Did anybody got a key without paying aurum? Don't you get em for certain Daily missions? GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2689	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:01:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I dont see how any of those things are worth the AUR. Even the officer weapon is not in my opinion worth what is it, 800 AUR? You must be crazy. Well, on the market, those items would go a long way up to the 800, if not more. Also, you might get more than one officer weapon in a box. And even an officer dropsuit. That may be so Rattati, however even then I would argue that nobody but a new player would even be buying half of those things. (Looking specifically at the aurum starter suits for a start) I had hoped these boxes would have some cool rare loots in. Officer sidearms? Officer weapons etc... All of that being said, if you are able to implement even basic crafting / player trading in DUST514 then you will elevate to god status in my eyes. Until then good sir, TRY HARDER! "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2603	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:13:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Id rather a complex crafting and salvage system. But probably to much man hours. Where killing a mercenary with a proto fit suit would yield you pieces of the suit and items they where wearing in salvage. That then could be combined with other pieces and combined with a blueprint copy to make.. A proto suit with a Officer weapon for example.. You would get a piece of the crafting list of each of those items. That you would then take and combine with other items and a BPC to craft said item. Giving a reason to hunt and kill specific players and collect salvage from kills. And a complex intuitive crafting system that could be added to. With a player market? There would be some mercenaries who play a completely different DUST as traders and builders.
Valor Goat 56	Posted - 2014.12.09 18:22:00 - [35] - Quote It's perfect as it is, having a high chance of getting officer weapons and suits for 800 AUR would mean extreme P2W. 1EE7
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1254	Posted - 2014.12.09 18:30:00 - [36] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Did anybody got a key without paying aurum? This. I am interested in the salvage rate from matches. Getting like 10 boxes day from missions while having a terrible salvage rate would be a little too cash grab imo.
NextDark Knight Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 702	Posted - 2014.12.09 18:40:00 - [37] - Quote No daily mission key here either.. Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 13657	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:03:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. Well, I dunno, everything I've got feels worthless. Then again, nothing is worth it for me at this point unless it's an officer weapon or suit lol Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1176	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:10:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. sounds like bad luck, but there is a fine line between not enough officer items and too many. Keep using your daily mission keys, it should pay off. I don't feel that strongboxes should contain anything less than AVD gear in large quantities to be honest. I know that you guys want it to be accessible to newer players, but 15 basic codebreakers? You said earlier that the player should never feel like they didn't get their moneys worth. That's not worth the money or time. I could have spent 14,625 isk rather than the 330,000 I sent in logi suits trying to earn the key in the high WP game earlier, or I could have just tossed away 300 AUR to simply buy the basic AUR codebreakers instead of 800 on the key to open it. Instead of all this fairly useless basic, couldn't you make it at least ADV AUR variants so that newbros still have access to it and it doesn't feel like a complete waste of time/money to everyone else? O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
501st Headstrong Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 753	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:11:00 - [40] - Quote Keys are salvageable in matches Ace Boone's Son/ Danizzle's Friend/ OG GAM4LIfe "Are you a boy or girl?" -Most asked question in Dust Waiting for SWBF

CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1632	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:13:00 - [41] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. RND? The corp? You mean RNG? You've been brainwashed by YDubbs! DUST VIDEOS
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1564	Posted - 2014.12.09 20:38:00 - [42] - Quote My friend JUST opened one box with AUR key: 21x 'Cuticle' Complex Armor Plates. AND THAT'S IT. CCP Rattati wrote: . . The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. [/quote] That might classify as a losing lottery ticket, that one. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
TRULY ELITE Titans of Phoenix 216	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:27:00 - [43] - Quote For a new player 21 AUR complex armour plates would seem pretty good I think. Born Amarr, Pure Minmatar. Commando, Logistics, Sentinel, Scout mk.o
postapo wastelander Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 804	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:38:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. It is the only way to open it AUR keys? If that so i propably will sell them, most of stuff inside is no use for me anyway ;l *"We build from rust"*
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1564	Posted - 2014.12.09 22:03:00 - [45] - Quote TRULY ELITE wrote: For a new player 21 AUR complex armour plates would seem pretty good I think. Maybe true. It is a big difference between L3 and L5 SP. Somehow I personally find using giveaway AUR gear practical. But again on the other hand on all full char resets I did use for example complex aur shield extenders (when shield was the only choice). Aaand just realised: the op used five keys to five boxes, not just one box with that pile of stuff. My comments were based on wrong assumption that a box has random number of item stacks given out. In that case having only one stack would be weak in comparison. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1262	Posted - 2014.12.09 22:11:00 - [46] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: TRULY ELITE wrote: For a new player 21 AUR complex armour plates would seem pretty good I think. Maybe true. It is a big difference between L3 and L5 SP. Somehow I personally find using giveaway AUR gear practical. But again on the other hand on all full char resets I did use for example complex aur shield extenders (when shield was the only choice). Aaand just realised: the op used five keys to five boxes, not just one box with that pile of stuff. My comments were based on wrong assumption that a box has random number of item stacks given out. In that case having only one stack would be weak in comparison. I have never bought complex AUR plates but I assume them to be somewhere around 40-50 AUR each. So basically you bought them while having the chance of getting an officer weapon. It seems like the number of something it gives is calculated to be near 800 AUR. All in all its something that makes the game more interesting. Hopefully they increase key drops before people start screaming pay to win (even more)
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 104	Posted - 2014.12.09 22:30:00 - [47] - Quote I HATE THE STRONGBOX CRAP! just another way for us to spend aurum. I open 11 of them on my alt who have enough aurum you know what I got... crap. std weapons, plates (basic to proto), and useless junk. nothing worth anything. not one thing I could not buy with isk. at least give us the chance to sell them back to the market or if we complete all 10 daily mission we get 1 key. I hate that stupid orange notification. that is always on if you don't have a boost is now on the doing it for the strongbox.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 104	Posted - 2014.12.09 22:40:00 - [48] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: Keys are salvageable in matches you have a better chance of getting any officer weapon over getting 1 key from the end of the battle drop. 0.5% chance.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13253	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:08:00 - [49] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. sounds like bad luck, but there is a fine line between not enough officer items and too many. Keep using your daily mission keys, it should pay off. I don't feel that strongboxes should contain anything less than AVD gear in large quantities to be honest. I know that you guys want it to be accessible to newer players, but 15 basic codebreakers? You said earlier that the player should never feel like they didn't get their moneys worth. That's not worth the money or time. I could have spent 14,625 isk rather than the 330,000 I sent in logi suits trying to earn the key in the high WP game earlier, or I could have just tossed away 300 AUR to simply buy the basic AUR codebreakers instead of 800 on the key to open it. Instead of all this fairly useless basic, couldn't you make it at least ADV AUR variants so that newbros still have access to it and it doesn't feel like a complete waste of time/money to everyone else? Strong boxes are the "most" reliable way to get officer gear, without being reliable. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2610	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:32:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Daddrobit wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. sounds like bad luck, but there is a fine line between not enough officer items and too many. Keep using your daily mission keys, it should pay off. I don't feel that strongboxes should contain anything less than AVD gear in large quantities to be honest. I know that you guys want it to be accessible to newer players, but 15 basic codebreakers? You said earlier that the player should never feel like they didn't get their moneys worth. That's not worth the money or time. I could have spent 14,625 isk rather than the 330,000 I sent in logi suits trying to earn the key in the high WP game earlier, or I could have just tossed away 300 AUR to simply buy the basic AUR codebreakers instead of 800 on the key to open it. Instead of all this fairly useless basic, couldn't you make it at least ADV AUR variants so that newbros still have access to it and it doesn't feel like a complete waste of time/money to everyone else? Strong boxes are the "most" reliable way to get officer gear, without being reliable. That doesn't answer the question about making the worst loot you can get better. Getting Std gear from these boxes isn't really something I would expect or be hyped about. The possibility alone is annoying, as that gear is definitely cheaper than the key Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15631	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:34:00 - [51] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. Dunno how much you want to monetise this but themed strong boxes for events, promotions, etc could also work for you guys. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1178	Posted - 2014.12.10 01:45:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Daddrobit wrote: I don't feel that strongboxes should contain anything less than AVD gear in large quantities to be honest. I know that you guys want it to be accessible to newer players, but 15 basic codebreakers? You said earlier that the player should never feel like they didn't get their moneys worth. That's not worth the money or time. I could have spent 14,625 isk rather than the 330,000 I sent in logi suits trying to earn the key in the high WP game earlier, or I could have just tossed away 300 AUR to simply buy the basic AUR codebreakers instead of 800 on the key to open it. Instead of all this fairly useless basic, couldn't you make it at least ADV AUR variants so that newbros still have access to it and it doesn't feel like a complete waste of time/money to everyone else? Strong boxes are the "most" reliable way to get officer gear, without being reliable. I'm not asking for reliable officer gear, I'm asking for there to not be complete garbage. You said it yourself earlier. CCP Rattati wrote: The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. Getting 15 basic codebreakers is clearly not a winning prize. You can't even sell them for any meaningful amount of isk. I could go out and do a pub match in free frontline suit, earn 215k in a few minutes, and then just buy over 250 of these things. But generally unless you are incredibly lucky and get that .5% loot drop chance on a key, you actually have to put in effort or real cash to earn them. That effort is not being rewarded when you have the chance to only end up picking up a few basic modules. Hell, like i pointed out earlier, even the cash value isn't being rewarded. The AUR variants of them are 20 a piece. At 15, that's 300 AUR, less than half the value of the key used to open it in the first place. This salvage system is absolutely a 'win lose slot machine' with its current loot table. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1051	Posted - 2014.12.10 02:26:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Strong boxes are the "most" reliable way to get officer gear, without being reliable. So what you're telling us, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is 60% of the time they work every time? Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
501st Headstrong Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 758	Posted - 2014.12.10 02:41:00 - [54] - Quote Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't is all. I got 4 Balac's ARs, 1 Alex HMG, and 16 Basic Heavy Damage Mods. Some things are epic, some are not :) Ace Boone's Son/ Danizzle's Friend/ OG GAM4LIfe "Are you a boy or girl?" -Most asked question in Dust Waiting for SWBF
Dimitri Rascolovitch Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 281	Posted - 2014.12.10 02:46:00 - [55] - Quote Hey rattati if youre still reading this thread, would it be possible for you to bring up and post the loot table and percentages of each item on it, including these new strong boxes and hacked decryptor keys Bring back the Marauders, Enforcers, Logistic, and Scout LAVS and Dropships
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1392	Posted - 2014.12.10 03:19:00 - [56] - Quote Can i buy a key for 1mil isk? Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6494	Posted - 2014.12.10 03:22:00 - [57] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Can i buy a key for 1mil isk? Why would you spend 1 mil ISK on what is by and large items that will be worth significantly less than that? Do you need to get rid of your ISK that badly? Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3056	Posted - 2014.12.10 03:24:00 - [58] - Quote What are the special edition front lines? "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1750	Posted - 2014.12.10 11:38:00 - [59] - Quote Really disliking the 'activate 2 instant sp boosters' daily my one alt got today Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 367	Posted - 2014.12.10 11:40:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. -1 Dustcraft 514 My to-do list when i return to dust: Logi my own way to an OB, and never use the cloak on my minja! And have some ISK!

hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 473	Posted - 2014.12.10 11:40:00 - [61] - Quote has anyone tried without arum key? i tried with a key i either salvaged or got for finishing all missions in one day and got 22 mlt remotes.
Stevez Wingyip DUST University Ivy League 33	Posted - 2014.12.10 11:41:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. Please remove that Orange dot that appears when you have not opened a box. It is so annoying. Minmatar pilot and Merc and love my boyfriend @luppasc2! µêætê¦sê¬S¦Üsºå
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 367	Posted - 2014.12.10 11:42:00 - [63] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: What are the special edition front lines? the new players get 5 special edition frontline (medium frames) and defender (heavy frames) They are improved frontline suits with standard gear instead of militia as far as i can remember My to-do list when i return to dust: Logi my own way to an OB, and never use the cloak on my minja! And have some ISK!
cris bleu Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 13	Posted - 2014.12.10 12:59:00 - [64] - Quote The frontline suits are on the market under dropsuits. They appeared with 1.9 I think. Not on ps3 now but pretty sure they're ISK purchasable. Look fine for low sp players or, if you get em in a box, burning thro in an ambush or two.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 105	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:21:00 - [65] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Really disliking the 'activate 2 instant sp boosters' daily my one alt got today lol I got two of the active instant boosters 1 & 3 both get me strongboxes... what junk wish I could just sell the strongbox to the market. I hate that stupid orange thing that is there with no booster & now it is another one for the strongbox. CAN WE TURN THAT STUPID ORANGE BIT OFF PLEASE CCP Rattati
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 391	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:55:00 - [66] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Really disliking the 'activate 2 instant sp boosters' daily my one alt got today lol I got two of the active instant boosters 1 & 3 both get me strongboxes... what junk wish I could just sell the strongbox to the market. I hate that stupid orange thing that is there with no booster & now it is another one for the strongbox. CAN WE TURN THAT STUPID ORANGE BIT OFF PLEASE CCP Rattati +1 please make notifications go away after checking said menu item pleeeeeeaaaasssse Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing... Not playing logi that much anymore... which is a shame...
Celus Ivara DUST University Ivy League 249	Posted - 2014.12.10 18:05:00 - [67] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. sounds like bad luck, but there is a fine line between not enough officer items and too many. Keep using your daily mission keys, it should pay off. I don't feel that strongboxes should contain anything less than AVD gear in large quantities to be honest. I know that you guys want it to be accessible to newer players, but 15 basic codebreakers? You said earlier that the player should never feel like they didn't get their moneys worth. That's not worth the money or time. I could have spent 14,625 isk rather than the 330,000 I sent in logi suits trying to earn the key in the high WP game earlier, or I could have just tossed away 300 AUR to simply buy the basic AUR codebreakers instead of 800 on the key to open it. Instead of all this fairly useless basic, couldn't you make it at least ADV AUR variants so that newbros still have access to it and it doesn't feel like a complete waste of time/money to everyone else? ^ This.
Gumby 4 Hire Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:05:00 - [68] - Quote Just got my first key. Was a reward for the "earn 105k SP in 1 day" mission. Allowed me to open 1 of the 5 boxes acquired from the other daily missions. 22x 'Pyrus' Nova Knives (STD version, no skills required). A alt merc of mine had the mission "earn 21999 SP in 1 battle" as well as the bonus mission of completing all 10 dailies, both with a key as the reward. '''The keys are out there without having to spend AURUM''', which helps quiet the PTW argument still floating around...
Polywog19 C0NTRA UNIT RUST415 3	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:34:00 - [69] - Quote Not only does the Strongbox scam discourage me from ever wanting to spend money on the game. This crap where you want us to wait forever cause we'll have a purpose for it eventually is stupid too. We got new maps in 1.9 but still have a pilot suit variation that doesn't provide suit options. They have been saying the market is going to open since open beta. So now instead of crap i might use one day stacking up i have strongboxes full of crap i might use one day stacking up. You fixed one problem then saw recreating the problem as a revenue stream.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13373	Posted - 2014.12.11 14:39:00 - [70] - Quote hold that wrote: has anyone tried without arum key? i tried with a key i either salvaged or got for finishing all missions in one day and got 22 mlt remotes. same key "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2578	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:33:00 - [71] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. My next 13 boxes: Balac's AR x1 (woo hoo!!!!) Basic RR x12 Commando C/1 x28 Advanced Cloak x18 Frontline SI MK II-A x7 Frontline SI MK II-A x9 Advanced Armor Repper x19 Defender SI MK II-C x9 Enhanced CPU upgrade x28 Complex KinCat x28 Defender SI MK II-G x9 Frontline SI MK II-C x9 Complex Shield Energizer x24 Apparently, RNG still doesn't like me. Not surprising I suppose, but, on the bright side, I did manage one officer weapon last night.
Alex-ZX Valor Coalition Red Whines. 72	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:38:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: hold that wrote: has anyone tried without arum key? i tried with a key i either salvaged or got for finishing all missions in one day and got 22 mlt remotes. same key Check the little letters that it has.......like jara neck, maybe aurum 1 says good stuff key Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG Luis' modified VC-107 CR Alex's modified VC-107 SMG *Owner of this beasts*
Valor Goat 86	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:55:00 - [73] - Quote There are rumors saying you can get a Balac's Modified Assault Ck.0 from the Boxes. 1EE7
Kain Spero Goonfeet 3951	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:57:00 - [74] - Quote Valor Goat wrote: There are rumors saying you can get a Balac's Modified Assault Ck.0 from the Boxes. This would be false. Balac dropsuits were exclusive to a closed beta tournament, but they did make new Officer Suits that might be in a box. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1696	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:01:00 - [75] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Valor Goat wrote: There are rumors saying you can get a Balac's Modified Assault Ck.0 from the Boxes. This would be false. Balac dropsuits were exclusive to a closed beta tournament, but they did make new Officer Suits that might be in a box. someone told me last night he got 2... they said ultra rare items would be in these boxes. you don't get much ultra rare than that suit All Hail Legion
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5423	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:03:00 - [76] - Quote I'm all about CCP trying to make money, but it seems the only way for the average player to gain wealth in this game is to grind in free/cheap suits. Somehow, someway ISK generation needs to be easier for the non PC player. The battles I fought yesterday were a TON of fun, I think at least 5 of my 15 or so dom/skirm matches ended in clones. But it was still due to heavy lifting by the one squad on each side. It seems like it comes down to which squad can farm the militia/STD suits the quickest. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2744	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:15:00 - [77] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. My next 13 boxes: Balac's AR x1 (woo hoo!!!!) Basic RR x12 Commando C/1 x28 Advanced Cloak x18 Frontline SI MK II-A x7 Frontline SI MK II-A x9 Advanced Armor Repper x19 Defender SI MK II-C x9 Enhanced CPU upgrade x28 Complex KinCat x28 Defender SI MK II-G x9 Frontline SI MK II-C x9 Complex Shield Energizer x24 Apparently, RNG still doesn't like me. Not surprising I suppose, but, on the bright side, I did manage one officer weapon last night. The keys to open the above cost about 9k AUR, and it still seems a bit steep given what I've received. Alas, I'm hard-headed, so I'll keep at it a bit longer.....and share my results here. lol, well thaks for testing man. So basically you paid aurum and the best thing you got was one single Balacs. Something we used to get in stacks of 10, then later stacks of 3 and now you have to pay for the privilege. Absolute trash. I will be sure not to buy any. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2259	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:16:00 - [78] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: This would be false. Balac dropsuits were exclusive to a closed beta tournament, but they did make new Officer Suits that might be in a box. I don't think they were necessarily exclusive to the tourney. The weapons from the tourney have been given out in other ways since (and might be in the boxes as well, I don't know), so I don't see why the dropsuit shouldn't be obtainable in other ways as well. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Nestil SWARMYARD 164	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:21:00 - [79] - Quote a corpmate savaged 28 strongboxes in 3 games in a row O.o (on his first game 14 at the same time!) I wish the keys would drop for me that way....
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1046	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:01:00 - [80] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. So this is what was meant by "Simple Crafting" on the road map? Hmm, I like! Use a useless officer weapon to turn one of my protos into an officer variant? YES PLEASE :D I sincerely hope "Simple Trading" is gonna be like EVE's direct trading. If it's the trade-in-same-station system, we'd need a transport system to change between all the DUST stations (that'd also be a cool feature, allowing me to torment Caldari mercs in their locals). I expect it'll be universe-wide though. Either way, I'll be happy. Yep

Vordred Knight T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 539	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:07:00 - [81] - Quote why can't we sell these strongboxes Don't Do Drugs while playing Eve
Nirwanda Vaughns 1050	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:21:00 - [82] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Valor Goat wrote: There are rumors saying you can get a Balac's Modified Assault Ck.0 from the Boxes. This would be false. Balac dropsuits were exclusive to a closed beta tournament, but they did make new Officer Suits that might be in a box. yup Ratati himself has said in a thread a couple months ago that they're not releasing any Balac's Ck.0's by any means as they want them to remain special fo rthe tourney winners so no luck on them, it was a thread where i sugegsted an event that each player was given 10 GAR-21's and every 20 kills with one you got a Ck.0 suit. one can wish "We're not looking to reissue the Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 dropsuits. If we decide to hand out officer dropsuits for anything else, it will be new officer dropsuits (that will be around the same power level)" Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
The-Errorist SVER True Blood 918	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:41:00 - [83] - Quote 1 key should be the default reward for completing 5 daily missions. MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill. http://vimeo.com/93181621
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7401	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:14:00 - [84] - Quote Given the frequency of how often the Salvage Boxes are given out (I've gotten 23 just from today) I think the price for the keys is a bit steep... $3 per 10 key bundle isn't much of a value when you have no idea what you're getting and the sheer frequency is going to cause a pretty steep discrepancy by itself. Consider, if you will, my anecdotal evidence: I've gotten 13 salvage boxes from the EoM screen. I've gotten 10 salvage boxes from the daily missions. Considering that the going ratio for keys is $3 for 10... And if I kept up at this consistent rate... That's round abouts $48 a week just in keys. So, eventually, you're either going to be spending more on Dust 514 for encryption keys than your medical insurance or you're going to just let the salvage boxes pile up. And they'll continue piling up until you start opening them. So, yeah, unless the prices change, it's really just not worth it because of the frequency alone. Long-Term Roadmap Nothing to show for Legion
Mad Greasemonkey The Scope Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:18:00 - [85] - Quote I opened my first box today, with a key i got for a mission. content where underwhelming 35 enh. shield extenders...
Middas Betancore Kang Lo Directorate 280	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:29:00 - [86] - Quote Sale on keys coming soon Also event for bonus keys and strongboxes Maybe if I give Jara some aur she can do it cheaper, might need to buy a wetware upgrade I reckon "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Nirwanda Vaughns 1051	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:41:00 - [87] - Quote On my alt i've just had 12 strong boxes given as EOM loot lol i've received 33 strongboxes in total today (6 of which from missions) and on my main i've received probably another 20 from missions and loot. methinks CCP are trying to convince us to waste money on keys because out of those 50-60 boxes i've had 1 key given as reward and i had to pay for instant boosters to get that Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 458	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:53:00 - [88] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: My next 13 boxes: Balac's AR x1 (woo hoo!!!!) Basic RR x12 Commando C/1 x28 Advanced Cloak x18 Frontline SI MK II-A x7 Frontline SI MK II-A x9 Advanced Armor Repper x19 Defender SI MK II-C x9 Enhanced CPU upgrade x28 Complex KinCat x28 Defender SI MK II-G x9 Frontline SI MK II-C x9 Complex Shield Energizer x24 Apparently, RNG still doesn't like me. Not surprising I suppose, but, on the bright side, I did manage one officer weapon last night. The keys to open the above cost about 9k AUR, and it still seems a bit steep given what I've received. Alas, I'm hard-headed, so I'll keep at it a bit longer.....and share my results here. Can confirm, I was present during this particular set of unboxings. Definitely never spending AUR on a key. Gumby 4 Hire wrote: Just got my first key. Was a reward for the "earn 105k SP in 1 day" mission. Allowed me to open 1 of the 5 boxes acquired from the other daily missions. 22x 'Pyrus' Nova Knives (STD version, no skills required). An alt merc of mine had the mission "earn 21999 SP in 1 battle" as well as the bonus mission of completing all 10 dailies, both with a key as the reward. The keys are out there without having to spend AURUM, which helps quiet the PTW argument still floating around... Umm, I don't know if this was meant as sarcasm, but both of those keys required the use of boosters. I'm sure it's no accident that most of the missions that reward keys are some of the most difficult to obtain, a good number of them requiring the use of boosters. The rewards from strongboxes are vastly disproportionate to the potential reward of using a key. Regardless of the people who have gotten decent rewards, Leadfoot's results should be completely impossible considering both the cost and rarity of keys. Even if the rewards were better, the ratio of keys to boxes is still incredibly low. A 1:2 or 1:3 ratio of keys to strongboxes would be much more reasonable, and still leave plenty of incentive to buy keys. If someone has 30 boxes and gets decent loot out of 8 of the 10 boxes they open, they will be very likely to buy keys to open the rest. Currently, someone is lucky to get 1-2 keys for 15+ boxes. If one or both of those keys ends up being underwhelming, most people are very unlikely to even consider buying more.
CLONE ALPHA 001 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 101	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:53:00 - [89] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Valor Goat wrote: There are rumors saying you can get a Balac's Modified Assault Ck.0 from the Boxes. This would be false. Balac dropsuits were exclusive to a closed beta tournament, but they did make new Officer Suits that might be in a box. someone told me last night he got 2... they said ultra rare items would be in these boxes. you don't get much ultra rare than that suit I got a balacs ck.0 they are real 0.0 and 10 mrt-17 RRs in one box WOOOOOOO
CLONE ALPHA 001 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 101	Posted - 2014.12.11 22:55:00 - [90] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Valor Goat wrote: There are rumors saying you can get a Balac's Modified Assault Ck.0 from the Boxes. This would be false. Balac dropsuits were exclusive to a closed beta tournament, but they did make new Officer Suits that might be in a box. yup Ratati himself has said in a thread a couple months ago that they're not releasing any Balac's Ck.0's by any means as they want them to remain special fo rthe tourney winners so no luck on them, it was a thread where i sugegsted an event that each player was given 10 GAR-21's and every 20 kills with one you got a Ck.0 suit. one can wish here "We're not looking to reissue the Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 dropsuits. If we decide to hand out officer dropsuits for anything else, it will be new officer dropsuits (that will be around the same power level)" Hmmm odd cause I got one from a box soooo yeh

CLONE ALPHA 001 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 101	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:05:00 - [91] - Quote Ok rattati so just gonna to say this out loud. Having to buy implants to complete a daily mission is BULLSIHT!!! Reasons 1. I have 3 implants plugged in. I can't plug more in 2. It's a daily MISSION not a daily "buy and spend arum" stop try to grab our cash you greedy ******* They should be only achievable in a battle Don't be an asshat remove the missions to spend arum now
CLONE ALPHA 001 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 101	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:06:00 - [92] - Quote Also extra rewards still are not paying out :(
CLONE ALPHA 001 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 103	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:09:00 - [93] - Quote Also basic and militia stuff in a box is fuckingbullshit give us some good stuff
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 458	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:10:00 - [94] - Quote CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote: Hmmm odd cause I got one from a box soooo yeh CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote: ... CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote: ... You know, you could just edit your original post, instead of spamming a bunch of individual ones.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1960	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:11:00 - [95] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. 9 myrons is less then my money's worth. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 732	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:35:00 - [96] - Quote Can I suggest we add two more strong boxes? Advanced strongbox and proto strongbox. Advanced strong box requires two keys to open but you get a minimum of advanced level gear or better with increased chance if getting officer gear. Proto strong box requires three keys to open but you get a minimum of proto level gear and a better chance of getting officer gear. Higher than the advanced strong box even.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1503	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:39:00 - [97] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. This....sooooo much this! Empress $layer.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1051	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:48:00 - [98] - Quote well in total i have 63 on my main (this) and 45 on my alt. only a total of 20 (give or take 1 or 2) have been given as daily mission rewards. the rest has been bulk EOM loot. one of the corp mates received 17!! at the end of one game i received sets of12's and 7's as well through the day. considering i've still only been offered 1 key as a reward i think the balance needs changing. for every 4-5 boxes given out a key should be given, that still leaves a huge surplus of boxes to encourage players to wast...spend AUR on but also makes them feel worth having. another option would be to limit the boxes content to proto tier weapons/suits and officer weapons/suits. somehow receiving modules makes me feel more cheated especially when i'm receiving 30 basic shield energizers (whoo-hoo ) having the boxes contain items of a minimum meta level would perhaps make it worth spending the AUR on them Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Nestil SWARMYARD 165	Posted - 2014.12.12 05:15:00 - [99] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: well in total i have 63 on my main (this) and 45 on my alt. only a total of 20 (give or take 1 or 2) have been given as daily mission rewards. the rest has been bulk EOM loot. one of the corp mates received 17!! at the end of one game i received sets of12's and 7's as well through the day. considering i've still only been offered 1 key as a reward i think the balance needs changing. for every 4-5 boxes given out a key should be given, that still leaves a huge surplus of boxes to encourage players to wast...spend AUR on but also makes them feel worth having. another option would be to limit the boxes content to proto tier weapons/suits and officer weapons/suits. somehow receiving modules makes me feel more cheated especially when i'm receiving 30 basic shield energizers (whoo-hoo ) having the boxes contain items of a minimum meta level would perhaps make it worth spending the AUR on them I would say they should just give us a way to get more keys (daily missions / higher salvage rate) instead of putting only officer /proto gear only in the boxes.... or ppl with a lot of aurum could run officer too excessive...
CLONE ALPHA 001 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 107	Posted - 2014.12.12 07:21:00 - [100] - Quote REALY YOU PUT A FUKING KEY IN MY BOX!!! Lolzomgwtf

Edau Skir2 duna corp 76	Posted - 2014.12.12 08:36:00 - [101] - Quote Troll should shut up and stop trolling. Clearly those things did not happen. I think the droprate on keys needs to increased. Other than that, it's cool. I've only opened two boxes but got Proto and officer, so my faith is still present.
VAHZZ 468	Posted - 2014.12.12 08:41:00 - [102] - Quote Every 10 battles, you should get at least 4 keys in that collective. You get flooded with darn boxes, hell bump it up to 5 or 6, highly doubt itll happen tho. ~ Proud Sniper Scout
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 63	Posted - 2014.12.12 08:51:00 - [103] - Quote I have got over 60 strong boxes. I open a few and I have got only some std/avd crap. QRT30 - all Caldari lvl 5, Min/Gal all lvl.3 - core maxed QRT300 - Amarr heavy/commando
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 117	Posted - 2014.12.12 09:16:00 - [104] - Quote Something needs to be done about the drop rate on keys... Not in bulk like the strongboxes, and definitely not as often, but to an amount where every now and again you get one (or two, or three) at the EoM screen. I know you get a few through daily missions, but it isn't enough at the rate we are getting these boxes. I would like some keys to open these boxes. Not complaining. Don't care if there's proto in there. Just want to get some more keys more often, that would be nice. Oh, and my loot for the boxes was something like this: Viktor's NEG-01 Laser Rifle x4 'Mauler' Sentinel x9 Defender Special Issue II-M (can't quite recall) 'Pyrus' Assault C/1-Series x3 Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 So...5 keys... And the Balac's is in the loot table. I have corpmates to prove it. Raging alcoholic. Quafe is life. Quafe is love.


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