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Leadfoot10 wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

Ripley Riley wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame.

One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon?

Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then.

My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it?

Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle.

In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind."

Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so.

Collect what? The unopened boxes? Officer weapons?

"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

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deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1244	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:26:00 - [1] - Quote Just for fun I bought 5 keys to open my strong boxes and I got Special Edition frontline special edition frontline neo assault ak0 caldari c-1 darths gio scrambler I would say that is a decent mix of salvage and we will see if the types stay as good when not using AUR keys. Anyway my actual feedback is that the keys cost a little too much AUR imo. Somewhere in the area of 4-500 AUR would likely lead to people being a bit more likely to take a gamble with purchasing a key. Oh and the orange notification bubble has got to go. Once inventory is checked these should disappear. We already deal with boosters being shoved down our throats by an annoying orange bubble, please dont make these the same way. I am already at a point where I miss mail and forget to restock thanks to the glowing buy booster bubble.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2246	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:36:00 - [2] - Quote Interesting. I am the bluedot. And I will rise again.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13085	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:37:00 - [3] - Quote Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 171	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:56:00 - [4] - Quote As a suggestion could we maybe get an 'officer store' where you redeem tokens (light, heavy, sidearm, grade 1-3) so that we don't get loot we don't want? I for example only use lasers, scramblers and the occasional magsec. In fact I think that getting redemption tokens for suits would be nice too as I'm currently offered logic loop scout suits and some of my alts are offered other suits they can't/don't use. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:57:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. Other than the special edition frontline suits I would say that I felt like I got my moneys worth. I definitely had a little fun with the surprise of what is it going to produce. All in all out of 5 times I would consider it 2 wins and 3 losses but not severe losses. This system will be GREAT once we get simple trading. Good job guys.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:58:00 - [6] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: As a suggestion could we maybe get an 'officer store' where you redeem tokens (light, heavy, sidearm, grade 1-3) so that we don't get loot we don't want? I for example only use lasers, scramblers and the occasional magsec. In fact I think that getting redemption tokens for suits would be nice too as I'm currently offered logic loop scout suits and some of my alts are offered other suits they can't/don't use. This will be less needed once we get simple trading. People opening boxes and trading officer weapons is going to make the game a lot more fun.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13108	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:04:00 - [7] - Quote Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 172	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:08:00 - [8] - Quote That doesn't sound too bad either. And in the case of officer weapons with multiple desireable variants it provides a chance to not just get the 'best' variant (forges / snipers / ARs) Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3287	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:08:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. +1 for horadric cube. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet". My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5437	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:10:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? My advice to you, playa...

MEDICO RITARDATO Dead Man's Game RUST415 359	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:14:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Noted on the notification. I am happy you feel the mix is good, we gave it quite a lot of thought. The undelying premise was that you should never believe you got less than your moneys worth, not exactly what you wanted maybe, but it's not a win or lose slot machine for sure. There is any possibility to get any BPO? The pen is on the table. TheD1CK is a scrub.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:15:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. This would be pretty awesome.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2875	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:23:00 - [13] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 6011	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:24:00 - [14] - Quote Rattati gets all of my love for the horadric cube reference. Never forget More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1297	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:28:00 - [15] - Quote how many suits do you get? random? or is it just 1. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1246	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:32:00 - [16] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: how many suits do you get? random? or is it just 1. I dont remember the number of the others but the Amarr assault ak0s i got like 18 of them. Based on what I saw you receive things based on your skills. For example The Caldari suits I received 'Neo' suits (I am not skilled into these at all) The Amarr suits I got regular proto (I am level 5) The officer weapon was a ScR (I am level 5 prof) Aside from the officer weapon which can not be valued I would say I got right around 800 AUR worth of items so this is likely the basis for how many of which suits or weapons you get.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13121	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:37:00 - [17] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Baltasar Bruno MORBID KILL CREW 0	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:04:00 - [18] - Quote Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so.[/quote] Hmm.... Interesting..
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 173	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:10:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Hoarding is a sign of mental illness, please seek professional help Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Baltasar Bruno MORBID KILL CREW 0	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:12:00 - [20] - Quote Smart move Rattati, smart move.

Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 416	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:13:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Awesome. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2688	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:21:00 - [22] - Quote I dont see how any of those things are worth the AUR. Even the officer weapon is not in my opinion worth what is it, 800 AUR? You must be crazy. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2511	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:39:00 - [23] - Quote My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2511	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:42:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Collect what? The unopened boxes? Officer weapons?

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13140	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:48:00 - [25] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: My first 7 boxes: basic codebreakers x15 defender SI MK II-A x9 complex ferroscale plates x18 Sentinel m/1 x18 Assault M-1 x19 Logi G-1 x12 basic SMG x19 RND doesn't like me, apparently, and these kind of rewards -- if they hold up -- certainly aren't going to incent me to buy any more keys. sounds like bad luck, but there is a fine line between not enough officer items and too many. Keep using your daily mission keys, it should pay off. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13143	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:49:00 - [26] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. One proto CPU upgrade, one proto PG upgrade, one proto weapon = an officer weapon of that same weapon? Never going to happen. Simply too powerful to turn money into Officer weapons. They might as well be on the market then. My complaint with the strongboxes is that I have very, very little incentive to get them. The odds are far, far more likely that I get something that I cannot use and the odds are still fairly high that I will get something I would not want. If it is an Assault Rifle, Combat Rifle, Caldari Logistics, Caldari Heavy suit other than basic, any Amarr suit, any Gallente Suit, any non-Logistics Minmatar, PLC, Mass Driver, Shotgun, SMG, Sniper Rifle, well, you get the idea, I cannot use it. An officer Swarm Launcher is worth far less to me than a single Advanced Assault Rail Rifle (my weapon of choice) because the officer weapons sells for less than what an ARR would cost me IIRC. You get Ghalag's Rail Rifle? That's nice but can you use it? Basically, until there is something that I can do with the 'good crap' I get I have no reason to buy Aurum keys. I might as well just buy the Aurum stuff that I would use. Turning Officer weapons into different variants would be nice. What I would REALLY love is to have my Exile Assault Plasma Rifle become an Exile Assault Rail Rifle. In short, we players need some kind of trading or crafting so getting an Officer weapon isn't "OH YE-, oh, nevermind." Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so. Collect what? The unopened boxes? Officer weapons? Officer weapons for sure. I kill one kitten for every officer weapon sold to Vendor. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

matsumoto yuichi san The Elite Few Inc. The Methodical Alliance 95	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:49:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Someone had a simple crafting idea too, like any officer weapon plus a proto weapon of the type you want, could give you the "right" officer weapon. A small horadric cube/minecraft minigame. TF2 Style :P

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13143	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:50:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I dont see how any of those things are worth the AUR. Even the officer weapon is not in my opinion worth what is it, 800 AUR? You must be crazy. Well, on the market, those items would go a long way up to the 800, if not more. Also, you might get more than one officer weapon in a box. And even an officer dropsuit. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 182	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:55:00 - [29] - Quote Did anybody got a key without paying aurum?
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC 94	Posted - 2014.12.09 15:55:00 - [30] - Quote Baltasar Bruno wrote: "Collect them, save them. There will be a reason to do so." Hmm.... Interesting.. Yes very interesting *ScReWeD uP InC* *Recruit BPO's*



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