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Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1251	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:19:00 - [1] - Quote Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? Chocolate Juice
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6612	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:22:00 - [2] - Quote Let's be honest, no matter how hard they make it to stab these super tanked armour tryhards (now with scans) we're going to do it anyway. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4743	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:22:00 - [3] - Quote For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2028	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:26:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1251	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:26:00 - [5] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Let's be honest, no matter how hard they make it to stab these super tanked armour tryhards (now with scans) we're going to do it anyway. True, but these changes seem like constant barrages on the Scout, now don't get me wrong here, some scouts go around unaffected (Gallante, Caldari, most certainly the Amarr with their brick tank) while the minmatar is left with the cancer with no cure. Chocolate Juice
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1251	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:27:00 - [6] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Chocolate Juice
Vicious Minotaur 1437	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:27:00 - [7] - Quote You can nerf me into nonexistence and I'd still find a way to murder you. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6613	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:31:00 - [8] - Quote I'd like to point out the two guys talking trash are both Amarr, and that's just funny in an ironic way. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2028	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:32:00 - [9] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3037	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:33:00 - [10] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get 15% less HP, 35% worse regen (than Caldari), and the largest hitboxes. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3037	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:35:00 - [11] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Stop saying "you can scout". What does that mean, exactly? You can Sentinel. You can Commando. You can LAV. You can Dropship. You can Assault. And by risk you mean "100% impossible to get the drop on someone to knife them"? Because then yes, I agree. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4743	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:35:00 - [12] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1252	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:38:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I'd like to point out the two guys talking trash are both Amarr, and that's just funny in an ironic way. To tell you the truth, Ratttati annoys me. With every patch/hotfix comes nerfs to everything I ever did. Tanks-ADS-Scouts-projectiles-ect.-ect. The only suit I have left that is worth a damn in my Minmatar Assault. He wants everything to be eqaul in EWAR category. NO! Scout is suppose to blow the water in EWAR, we shouldn't have to dedicate all our F'ing lows to get under and assault suit with like 2-3 precision. Assaults have two slots over the scout and a crap ton of HP over the scout. By putting those two slots to use, you can literally get to scout status and = stats still have the 6 other slots like scout to work with and still tank more than scout. What is the scout getting? A 15% CPU/PG reduction per level to a piece of junk equipment that takes all the bonuses you get from EWAR mods and 2.5 million SP investment in the scout suit down the drain. Chocolate Juice
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1254	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:40:00 - [14] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. Minmatar seriously take more damage than any other race. I can literally run around in a cal scout with 250 shields and still be 10x more survivable than my 343 min scout running at 9.5 m/s. Chocolate Juice
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3041	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:41:00 - [15] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. You aren't slow though...you have the same acceleration as every other suit...GêP. Thats the only speed that matters really. Everything else is just hit box and connection. And we were given a larger hit box a WHILE back, because it was the only thing balancing our speed when there was no aim assist, which, by the way nullifies our speed, but makes your HP even better. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3041	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:42:00 - [16] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. Minmatar seriously take more damage than any other race. I can literally run around in a cal scout with 250 shields and still be 10x more survivable than my 343 min scout running at 9.5 m/s. Thats only hit box...we don't take inherently more damage to the best of my knowledge. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4744	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:43:00 - [17] - Quote Well to be fair you don't have to use the cloak which then opens up "All kindz of gainz" while the assault just got pg/cpu reductions and bad primary bonuses excluding the Amarr/Min (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4352	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:44:00 - [18] - Quote My MinScout will be the least affected Scout when the changes drop. I have maxed eWar, but I equip no eWar mods. I have maxed Biotics, but I don't use KinCats. I have maxed cloaks, but they see little play. If my NK and hacking bonuses stay the same, and if I will still be able to sprint at 8.22 m/s with 650+ eHP tank, then I will not be affected by anything. I will continue to lay waste to all who think my build is improper or poorly fitted.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1254	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:44:00 - [19] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Stop saying "you can scout". What does that mean, exactly? You can Sentinel. You can Commando. You can LAV. You can Dropship. You can Assault. And by risk you mean "100% impossible to get the drop on someone to knife them"? Because then yes, I agree. Dude, scouts are done. WE DONT HAVE SHET GOING FOR US. The FOTM have moved on to heavies and Assaults. We don't really have Ewar. Assaults can get about the same ewar as us and still maintain more HP. We don't HP... hurr durr We don't have element of surprise. Everything will be able to scan our ass in 1.10. We don't have situational awareness. You might as well run a heavy for EWAR than a scout with a cloak. The cloak is so sh*********************t. Scouts are done. Even the Scout Scout's are done. Also, we have no directional awareness combined with low hp and short range weapon like nova knives is like a recipe for disaster. Chocolate Juice
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2029	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:45:00 - [20] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Stop saying "you can scout". What does that mean, exactly? You can Sentinel. You can Commando. You can LAV. You can Dropship. You can Assault. And by risk you mean "100% impossible to get the drop on someone to knife them"? Because then yes, I agree. He said take away the scout in scout which is blatantly not true... its not like your scans are getting worse you just dont see which way they are facing now which means a properly paranoid individual will be harder to sneak up on(but not impossible). Knowing which way the enemy is facing without IS WAY TOO POWERFUL and made it cake to negate any possible attempt by a merc to watch his back. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1254	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:45:00 - [21] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. Minmatar seriously take more damage than any other race. I can literally run around in a cal scout with 250 shields and still be 10x more survivable than my 343 min scout running at 9.5 m/s. Thats only hit box...we don't take inherently more damage to the best of my knowledge. Test's were done on militia Caldari heavy vs Min Heavy with shotgun and the Min heavy took 20% more damage. The thread is somewhere in features and discussion. Chocolate Juice
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4744	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:47:00 - [22] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. You aren't slow though...you have the same acceleration as every other suit...GêP. Thats the only speed that matters really. Everything else is just hit box and connection. And we were given a larger hit box a WHILE back, because it was the only thing balancing our speed when there was no aim assist, which, by the way nullifies our speed, but makes your HP even better. Still waiting for the actual prove bro. Plus since when was acceleration added to dropsuits? Because I'm pretty suit ever suit can go from 0 to max sprint speed in nano seconds. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 974	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:47:00 - [23] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Shut it, vitharr. Stinking hypocrite. Don't even get me started. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3045	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:51:00 - [24] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: My MinScout will be the least affected Scout when the changes drop. I have maxed eWar, but I equip no eWar mods. I have maxed Biotics, but I don't use KinCats. I have maxed cloaks, but they see little play. If my NK and hacking bonuses stay the same, and if I will still be able to sprint at 8.22 m/s with 650+ eHP tank, then I will not be affected by anything. I will continue to lay waste to all who think my build is improper or poorly fitted. If you have more than 430 HP, you're doing it wrong. Seriously. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2029	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:51:00 - [25] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Shut it, vitharr. Stinking hypocrite. Don't even get me started. where pray tell is the hypocrisy? Dunno if you noticed but I run all suits, and I'm pretty sure my scout is as affected as any other scout. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 342	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:52:00 - [26] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3045	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:52:00 - [27] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You aren't slow though...you have the same acceleration as every other suit...GêP. Thats the only speed that matters really. Everything else is just hit box and connection. And we were given a larger hit box a WHILE back, because it was the only thing balancing our speed when there was no aim assist, which, by the way nullifies our speed, but makes your HP even better. Still waiting for the actual prove bro. Plus since when was acceleration added to dropsuits? Because I'm pretty suit every suit can go from 0 to max sprint speed in nano seconds. AGH DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT THE INFINITE SIGN IS...? You literally just proved my point right there. All acceleration is the same. Its infinite. Therefore, there is none, because velocity vectors change instantaneously. Give me proof that the hack speed is slower on Amarr than Minmitar. When you can do that sufficiently, Ill be obligated to prove to you that we have smaller hit boxes. Until that point, you'll just have to take my word for it. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:53:00 - [28] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks Yup, because I skilled into scout to tank as much as a heavy. Maybe the "Scout" in Scout suit stands for something. EWAR. Chocolate Juice
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4975	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:54:00 - [29] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Let's be honest, no matter how hard they make it to stab these super tanked armour tryhards (now with scans) we're going to do it anyway. I know that for a fact.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3045	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:55:00 - [30] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.

Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1019	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:55:00 - [31] - Quote The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Fack it, might as well board the hype-train again. At least there's tracks this time.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4353	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:55:00 - [32] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: My MinScout will be the least affected Scout when the changes drop. I have maxed eWar, but I equip no eWar mods. I have maxed Biotics, but I don't use KinCats. I have maxed cloaks, but they see little play. If my NK and hacking bonuses stay the same, and if I will still be able to sprint at 8.22 m/s with 650+ eHP tank, then I will not be affected by anything. I will continue to lay waste to all who think my build is improper or poorly fitted. If you have more than 430 HP, you're doing it wrong. Seriously. You wanna fight, bro?! Bring it! runs away
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2029	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:00:00 - [33] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. 0 bandwidth is hardly a buff... still have the lowest scan radius as well Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4746	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:01:00 - [34] - Quote Woops just saw acceleration & jumped the gun( causing me not to even notice the infinite sign). But! I still don't understand what you getting at by saying what we all know? I know there's no acceleration but the fact is the Amarr, Cal, and Gal meds, heavy, and lights are slower period. My assault is flat out slow compared to the other race's. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 342	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:03:00 - [35] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. Agreed! The heavy spam is worse than scout spam now. Whenever I used my heavy I felt so normal as half my team were militia heavies. That is a good thing because the enemy team is to....easy pickings for scouts 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4746	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:03:00 - [36] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. It's a sentinel for crying out loud and an Amarr one to be exact not like we have resistance plates to but in those lows. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Izlare Lenix Titans of Phoenix 1166	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:06:00 - [37] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Dude, scouts are done. WE DONT HAVE SHET GOING FOR US. The FOTM have moved on to heavies and Assaults. We don't really have Ewar. Assaults can get about the same ewar as us and still maintain more HP. We don't HP... hurr durr We don't have element of surprise. Everything will be able to scan our ass in 1.10. We don't have situational awareness. You might as well run a heavy for EWAR than a scout with a cloak. The cloak is so sh*********************t. Scouts are done. Even the Scout Scout's are done. Also, we have no directional awareness combined with low hp and short range weapon like nova knives is like a recipe for disaster. ^ Sadly. All of this is true. Being able to sneak up on a target was the only things scouts had that another role couldn't do better. Now that this ability will be taken away scouts will be almost useless. The HMG spam is already bad now and this scout nerf is going to make it soooooo much worse. The only winner of WWIII will be the cockroaches.
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 164	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:06:00 - [38] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Well, if people did use the scout suit to scout they wouldn't be getting nerfed. Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. In that regard, scouts just got a buff to actual scouting. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:07:00 - [39] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Dude, scouts are done. WE DONT HAVE SHET GOING FOR US. The FOTM have moved on to heavies and Assaults. We don't really have Ewar. Assaults can get about the same ewar as us and still maintain more HP. We don't HP... hurr durr We don't have element of surprise. Everything will be able to scan our ass in 1.10. We don't have situational awareness. You might as well run a heavy for EWAR than a scout with a cloak. The cloak is so sh*********************t. Scouts are done. Even the Scout Scout's are done. Also, we have no directional awareness combined with low hp and short range weapon like nova knives is like a recipe for disaster. ^ Sadly. All of this is true. Being able to sneak up on a target was the only things scouts had that another role couldn't do better. Now that this ability will be taken away scouts will be almost useless. The HMG spam is already bad and now and this scout nerf is going to make it soooooo much worse. Why doesn't Rattati understand? Chocolate Juice
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:09:00 - [40] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Well, if people did use the scout suit to scout they wouldn't be getting nerfed. Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. In that regard, scouts just got a buff to actual scouting. There is a huge problem. You get no WP for providing passive scans to squad. I would literally be below the starter fit users if Scouts in your opinion did what scouts did. Chocolate Juice

xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 342	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:10:00 - [41] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:12:00 - [42] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? Nobody. It's like going around in BF4 sitting in a tree and pointing out people to the whole team for a living while they get lots of points you get 0 kills every match. Chocolate Juice
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 164	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:13:00 - [43] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Well, if people did use the scout suit to scout they wouldn't be getting nerfed. Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. In that regard, scouts just got a buff to actual scouting. There is a huge problem. You get no WP for providing passive scans to squad. I would literally be below the starter fit users if Scouts in your opinion did what scouts did. Lol, wuh? I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2029	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:14:00 - [44] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:15:00 - [45] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... You act like scouts were risk fee. Since when was fighting 1600 EHP 900 DPS death machines in a 300-400 hp suit risk free? Chocolate Juice
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 342	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:17:00 - [46] - Quote Scouts have always been risk free as long as we are the masters of eWar, remain unseen in eWar and use our element of surprise to our advantage. Not everyone does these things. Now CCP removed this and we might as well be fodder 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:20:00 - [47] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Scouts have always been risk free as long as we are the masters of eWar, remain unseen in eWar and use our element of surprise to our advantage. Not everyone does these things. Now CCP removed this and we might as well be fodder Risk free as in always win in engagement is a false accusation. Risk Free as in a smart played engagement is a better accusation. I only engage enemies that I can beat, why would I engage a herd of heavies with a rifle? Maybe I make it look risk free. Chocolate Juice
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10438	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:24:00 - [48] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? Not really. I have learned to take a peak around corners without having to rely on the minimap. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:27:00 - [49] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? Not really. I have learned to take a peak around corners without having to rely on the minimap. Take another peak, I saw you coming a mile away in my Amarr Assault and I had my scrambler charged and loaded ready to pop you in between the eyes. -sincerely 1.10 Chocolate Juice
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2030	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:27:00 - [50] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... You act like scouts were risk fee. Since when was fighting 1600 EHP 900 DPS death machines in a 300-400 hp suit risk free? wait for target to turn around SG or KN in back ???? profit Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:35:00 - [51] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... You act like scouts were risk fee. Since when was fighting 1600 EHP 900 DPS death machines in a 300-400 hp suit risk free? wait for target to turn around SG or KN in back ???? profit That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. Chocolate Juice
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 345	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:40:00 - [52] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: wait for target to turn around SG or KN in back ???? profit That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. It works now, but not in 1.10 with the new close range precision buff. Heavys will not be able to see us as long as we are dampened (ridiculous) but other scouts can and assaults if they equip precision mods according to CCP Rattati on his spreadsheets. 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2031	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:43:00 - [53] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:47:00 - [54] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. You had just an equal ability to see through a freking wall. Chocolate Juice
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 345	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:47:00 - [55] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. Good that they removed directional indicators from the TACNET bad they gave the ability for assaults that run no eWar to see scouts through walls that run no eWar worse yet If they run eWar, and we run eWar they can still see us within close proximities (more than the thickness of the wall you are hiding behind). Scout eWar is meant to be superior 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2031	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:56:00 - [56] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. You had just an equal ability to see through a freking wall. Like I said before noone is trying to take your scans, but being able to see which a merc is looking through a wall is too powerful. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2506	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:58:00 - [57] - Quote A long overdue change, IMO.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2033	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:00:00 - [58] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. Good that they removed directional indicators from the TACNET bad they gave the ability for assaults that run no eWar to see scouts through walls that run no eWar worse yet If they run eWar, and we run eWar they can still see us within close proximities (more than the thickness of the wall you are hiding behind). Scout eWar is meant to be superior Scout eWar is superior you have better range and precision especially after getting your passive eWar skills up. Hell, even my heavy benefits from it as it allows me to be invisible to another heavy that thought eWar was unnecessary. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1022	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:07:00 - [59] - Quote Everyone in this thread, 50 DKP minus. Fack it, might as well board the hype-train again. At least there's tracks this time.
brett morris518 is well hung 21	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:08:00 - [60] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Don't worry about it buddy.. Apparently they don't work lol.. But yes, the butthurt here is laughable.. "My scout isn't fotm anymore" then get an assault suit if that's all ur worried about. Get a respec... Don't want to? Then play something that never changes so u can pick an OP thing and never have to worry about change... Adapt or die ... I don't see how people still get all upset like this game never changes all the time... Pathetic

Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6625	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:13:00 - [61] - Quote brett morris518 wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Don't worry about it buddy.. Apparently they don't work lol.. But yes, the butthurt here is laughable.. "My scout isn't fotm anymore" then get an assault suit if that's all ur worried about. Get a respec... Don't want to? Then play something that never changes so u can pick an OP thing and never have to worry about change... Adapt or die ... I don't see how people still get all upset like this game never changes all the time... Pathetic This coming from the guy who seemingly thinks replacing his spine with a stick up his rear makes him superior? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6453	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:13:00 - [62] - Quote It would be nice if the directional arrow wasn't an either/or. That there should be some level of scanning or tank that results in a directional arrow. I don't mind assaults not having them. I very much mind heavies having another advantage. And as already stated, heavies get the benefit of passive scans (without sacrifice). On top of that, they get the benefits of logi reps etc. There time better damn well be coming, because when Rattati listed the top PC over performing suits, No 1 and No 2 were both sentinels. The super OP scout that everyone has been crying about came in 3rd, but we have seen no heavy nerfs for a very long time, and lots of indirect buffs. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2246	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:17:00 - [63] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. So you don't know what way someone is facing. How does that completely cripple scouting? A nerf it is, but very tangential in its wound I am the bluedot. And I will rise again.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6453	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:20:00 - [64] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. So you don't know what way someone is facing. How does that completely cripple scouting? A nerf it is, but very tangential in its wound Because a heavy that you can't be sure how to sneak up on could kill you before you have a chance to get back behind cover once you realize he is looking right at you? Because once they see you are in the area you have lost the only advantage you had, which is the element of surprise, and sometimes that already isn't even though I have Minja level 5, am sporting proto knives, and they still survive a charged swipe? Because these behemoths cant tank nearly 5 to 8 times the HP that my scout suit has? Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
brett morris518 is well hung 23	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:22:00 - [65] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: brett morris518 wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Don't worry about it buddy.. Apparently they don't work lol.. But yes, the butthurt here is laughable.. "My scout isn't fotm anymore" then get an assault suit if that's all ur worried about. Get a respec... Don't want to? Then play something that never changes so u can pick an OP thing and never have to worry about change... Adapt or die ... I don't see how people still get all upset like this game never changes all the time... Pathetic This coming from the guy who seemingly thinks replacing his spine with a stick up his rear makes him superior? Yup :D a stick is better than being completely spineless.. You guys think you are the only ones who got screwed in the history of this game?! Again, laughable
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6625	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:31:00 - [66] - Quote brett morris518 wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: brett morris518 wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Don't worry about it buddy.. Apparently they don't work lol.. But yes, the butthurt here is laughable.. "My scout isn't fotm anymore" then get an assault suit if that's all ur worried about. Get a respec... Don't want to? Then play something that never changes so u can pick an OP thing and never have to worry about change... Adapt or die ... I don't see how people still get all upset like this game never changes all the time... Pathetic This coming from the guy who seemingly thinks replacing his spine with a stick up his rear makes him superior? Yup :D a stick is better than being completely spineless.. You guys think you are the only ones who got screwed in the history of this game?! Again, laughable How cute, I didn't realise you know my mind. I know well, I've been through it all. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
brett morris518 is well hung 23	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:37:00 - [67] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: brett morris518 wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: brett morris518 wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Don't worry about it buddy.. Apparently they don't work lol.. But yes, the butthurt here is laughable.. "My scout isn't fotm anymore" then get an assault suit if that's all ur worried about. Get a respec... Don't want to? Then play something that never changes so u can pick an OP thing and never have to worry about change... Adapt or die ... I don't see how people still get all upset like this game never changes all the time... Pathetic This coming from the guy who seemingly thinks replacing his spine with a stick up his rear makes him superior? Yup :D a stick is better than being completely spineless.. You guys think you are the only ones who got screwed in the history of this game?! Again, laughable How cute, I didn't realise you know my mind. I know well, I've been through it all. Me too.. So we should know what it feels like.. And sometimes it sucks.. So to change the tone to a more positive side... Do you think u will find something else to be ur major role? Or are you going to try to make the scout work?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6455	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:42:00 - [68] - Quote Why should anyone have to change their roles? Sinboto is a long time scout, who was scouting and a Minja long before the 1.8 patch. Back when there were probably less than 100 players maining a Minja. I also chose Minja because that is my style, regardless of game. The point of the fixes should be balance, and further buffing suits like heavies that are already very much over performing, in an effort to nerf FotM scouts, while making life hell for those that are truly dedicated to the role is not effective balancing. Nor is it reasonable to simply ask that we choose another play style in order to be relevant. We should be relevant regardless, just as support Logis should, and Assault slayers, and Commandos. We shouldn't sacrifice legit roles for the sake of pseudo balance. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6628	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:46:00 - [69] - Quote @brett morris518 It seems you can't read minds after all. Like yourself I'm a veteran, the thought of swapping never crossed my mind period, and have already started jotting down new tactics for my dear Minja. Presumption is one of the most amusing mistakes humans can make, don't you agree? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
brett morris518 is well hung 23	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:49:00 - [70] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Why should anyone have to change their roles? Sinboto is a long time scout, who was scouting and a Minja long before the 1.8 patch. Back when there were probably less than 100 players maining a Minja. I also chose Minja because that is my style, regardless of game. The point of the fixes should be balance, and further buffing suits like heavies that are already very much over performing, in an effort to nerf FotM scouts, while making life hell for those that are truly dedicated to the role is not effective balancing. Nor is it reasonable to simply ask that we choose another play style in order to be relevant. We should be relevant regardless, just as support Logis should, and Assault slayers, and Commandos. We shouldn't sacrifice legit roles for the sake of pseudo balance. True.. But you know as well as any of us, when things get nerfed.. It gets it hard.. I guess I'm just thankful that there is a radar in the game at all

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6457	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:54:00 - [71] - Quote brett morris518 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Why should anyone have to change their roles? Sinboto is a long time scout, who was scouting and a Minja long before the 1.8 patch. Back when there were probably less than 100 players maining a Minja. I also chose Minja because that is my style, regardless of game. The point of the fixes should be balance, and further buffing suits like heavies that are already very much over performing, in an effort to nerf FotM scouts, while making life hell for those that are truly dedicated to the role is not effective balancing. Nor is it reasonable to simply ask that we choose another play style in order to be relevant. We should be relevant regardless, just as support Logis should, and Assault slayers, and Commandos. We shouldn't sacrifice legit roles for the sake of pseudo balance. True.. But you know as well as any of us, when things get nerfed.. It gets it hard.. I guess I'm just thankful that there is a radar in the game at all I guess I would try to find solutions that fix the actual problems, and only use large heavy handed changes as a means of last resort. I would have no problem being hard mode if some of these changes were the least bad option, but I think there are many better options out there. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
brett morris518 is well hung 23	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:56:00 - [72] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: @brett morris518 It seems you can't read minds after all. Like yourself I'm a veteran, the thought of swapping never crossed my mind period, and have already started jotting down new tactics for my dear Minja. Presumption is one of the most amusing mistakes humans can make, don't you agree? Maybe I can read ur mind I'm just playing dumb.. In all seriousness though. Yes I agree. And I'm seriously not being a smart ass when I say good for you. Don't let the man (CCP) keep you down.. I know your pain.. I have been a dedicated logi since before you got points for it.. Through all the ups and downs, still my main role and that will never change
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1565	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:57:00 - [73] - Quote We got our buffs and our time in the spotlight, give the poor newbies a chance to recover from all the knives shoved up their ***** over the past few months and let someone else enjoy the limelight for awhile... perhaps Pilot suits~ I want to punch.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 546	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:57:00 - [74] - Quote I don't even play this game anymore but the scout QQ still makes me so damn upset. We've been nerfed several times and NONE OF YOU HATE SCOUTS, YOU JUST HATE SCOUT SHOTGUNS. A SCOUT WITH ANY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON IS NOT THAT EFFECTIVE AS IT HAS NO OTHER ADVANTAGES OUTSIDE OF eWAR. A scout with any other weapon than a shotgun will lose a 1v1 to an equally skilled or possibly even lesser skilled player that has more HP. The hitboxes aren't broken, and EVERYONE CAN STRAFE. HEAVIES CAN DO IT TOO, AND EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE AT THAT. You scout QQers are ridiculous. It's gotten so bad that people are still crying to make them side-arms only. The only thing you don't like is being OHK'd, meanwhile I'm sure none of you have any problem with spamming core locus grenades at the opposition. This game has a very high average TTK compared to other games, but the scout takes advantage of very high alpha damage weapons (shotgun, nova knives and REs) in exchange for significantly less eHP. Brick tanking scouts are terrible and there's a reason all the true slayers run 450hp or less. And everytime there is a scout nerf, or eWar buffs to other suits, the Minmitar always takes the hardest hit because it doesn't have an eWar bonus. All it has is knives and a little bit faster base speed. It has **** for PG/CPU, and it's only real niche is becoming harder and harder to use by the day. And if you don't understand because you still slay noobies in pubs, please shut up. I can drop 30+ kills in a pub with a starter fit, easily. Pubs are the easiest thing to do in this game, PC, where you actually play against competent enemies, is where you get wrecked because of your suit. Only loyal to the republic. I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 469	Posted - 2014.12.09 06:07:00 - [75] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. To be fair -- Matari Sentinels have to be played like Assaults with HMGs. They can't go toe to toe with ANY of the sentinels and are only slightly at an advantage within 20 meters vs another assault....
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 469	Posted - 2014.12.09 06:14:00 - [76] - Quote Whups -- double post.
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3280	Posted - 2014.12.09 08:20:00 - [77] - Quote Best thing that could happen with the enemy markers. 1. It did not make sense for how "EVE physics" work. 2. It was a crutch for shotgunners and nova knifers alike. Now we will see who has real skill and who is a scrub! Tryhards will turn into cryhards (or just respec). EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet". My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5688	Posted - 2014.12.09 09:00:00 - [79] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. That's because the minsent is hands down the best assault suit in the game. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5688	Posted - 2014.12.09 09:02:00 - [80] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: I don't even play this game anymore but the scout QQ still makes me so damn upset. We've been nerfed several times and NONE OF YOU HATE SCOUTS, YOU JUST HATE SCOUT SHOTGUNS. A SCOUT WITH ANY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON IS NOT THAT EFFECTIVE AS IT HAS NO OTHER ADVANTAGES OUTSIDE OF eWAR. A scout with any other weapon than a shotgun will lose a 1v1 to an equally skilled or possibly even lesser skilled player that has more HP. The hitboxes aren't broken, and EVERYONE CAN STRAFE. HEAVIES CAN DO IT TOO, AND EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE AT THAT. You scout QQers are ridiculous. It's gotten so bad that people are still crying to make them side-arms only. The only thing you don't like is being OHK'd, meanwhile I'm sure none of you have any problem with spamming core locus grenades at the opposition. This game has a very high average TTK compared to other games, but the scout takes advantage of very high alpha damage weapons (shotgun, nova knives and REs) in exchange for significantly less eHP. Brick tanking scouts are terrible and there's a reason all the true slayers run 450hp or less. And everytime there is a scout nerf, or eWar buffs to other suits, the Minmitar always takes the hardest hit because it doesn't have an eWar bonus. All it has is knives and a little bit faster base speed. It has **** for PG/CPU, and it's only real niche is becoming harder and harder to use by the day. And if you don't understand because you still slay noobies in pubs, please shut up. I can drop 30+ kills in a pub with a starter fit, easily. Pubs are the easiest thing to do in this game, PC, where you actually play against competent enemies, is where you get wrecked because of your castrated shell of a scout. TL;DR: I am an elitist therefore I am more right than you. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.

Varoth Drac Titans of Phoenix 462	Posted - 2014.12.09 09:03:00 - [81] - Quote On the subject of heavies, whilst the changes make them harder for scouts to combat, it will be a lot easier for mediums. In most cases medium will see heavies on radar within 30m (more for a logi). This will make it easier for mediums to avoid running into the hmg death machines without being prepared. Also the bandwidth adds an additional penalty to running a heavy. I'm not sure this is an overall buff to heavies.
Texas Killionaire Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 340	Posted - 2014.12.09 09:21:00 - [82] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to *** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Naw bruh. The min sentinel is bawdazz. But seriously. It's the **. If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win. Jello Biafra = God AQUPI
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 468	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:32:00 - [83] - Quote omg wall hack nerf!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5689	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:41:00 - [84] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: On the subject of heavies, whilst the changes make them harder for scouts to combat, it will be a lot easier for mediums. In most cases medium will see heavies on radar within 30m (more for a logi). This will make it easier for mediums to avoid running into the hmg death machines without being prepared. Also the bandwidth adds an additional penalty to running a heavy. I'm not sure this is an overall buff to heavies. It's not a buff to heavies unless you buy stock in tinfoil. Knowing a target is there is powerful. There is a reason I wish my sentinels could be decent at range because I would have a reason to dismount some of the HP mods to be able to see. I'll happily trade survivability for intel. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 924	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:14:00 - [85] - Quote Removing enemy orientation is not a nerf to scouts (or anyone else). It was too easy before. Besides all you have to do now is just spend a few seconds waiting to see what direction the enemy 'dot' moves in before deciding to poke out of cover or not. You can still work out enemy orientation from the tacnet if you want to. Situational awareness is OP. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1264	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:31:00 - [86] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. That's because the minsent is hands down the best assault suit in the game. not with that hitbox of a tank... mine tanks close to 950 ehp, which is in the range of most advanced assaults. Chocolate Juice
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 374	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:32:00 - [87] - Quote Arrows are still there btw... Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing... Not playing logi that much anymore... which is a shame...
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1392	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:34:00 - [88] - Quote I really dont see why this is a problem and should be taken away. It's like removing the scope on the Rail Rifle; theres no reason to remove it. Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1264	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:35:00 - [89] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Arrows are still there btw... Thank god but CCP should really reconsider scouts. It isn't fair that scouts have to put damps on top of damps to get under a assault suit with like 3 precision. P.S. Assault suits have 2 extra slots over the scout suits so this only requires them to use one actual slot. Chocolate Juice
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1264	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:37:00 - [90] - Quote Zindorak wrote: I really dont see why this is a problem and should be taken away. It's like removing the scope on the Rail Rifle; theres no reason to remove it. At least they could make it so only heavies can be seen on tac net with arrows. I would much rather prefer Scouts see arrows in tac net v.s. everything. In the end, it is a scout. Chocolate Juice

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3050	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:24:00 - [91] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. 0 bandwidth is hardly a buff... still have the lowest scan radius as well Yeah, they need all that bandwidth for those equipment slots they have... "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3050	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:27:00 - [92] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Well, if people did use the scout suit to scout they wouldn't be getting nerfed. The suit's strength is not in the scanning feature anyway. Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. In that regard, scouts just got a buff to actual scouting. Passive scans just got nerfed at its long range. So my role is to stand back and watch the battle without doing anything? This seems very similar to another role I know...the fresh-from-academy-blueberry role. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3050	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:29:00 - [93] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... You act like scouts were risk fee. Since when was fighting 1600 EHP 900 DPS death machines in a 300-400 hp suit risk free? wait for target to turn around SG or KN in back ???? profit You make it sound so easy, but Im 100% certain that if you were to drop your crutch Sentinel and pick up a minmitar scout with knives or a SG, you couldn't kill much more than a MLT heavy straight from the academy. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 684	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:29:00 - [94] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Cal scout should have got that knife bonus anyway.... "Rirokai - Caldari term for GÇ£stealth warfareGÇ¥ or Covert Ops basically, originates from a dagger-style weapon used for assassinations that dates back to the Raata days" source: http://rttech.org/IRDArchive2/index.php?topic=4.0 "GÇ¥(GÇª) although Caldari refer to it as an "art" rather than a combat technique. Called "SGÇÖkarpur stalaandi" (literally GÇ£sharp steel spiritGÇ¥) it is one of the oldest surviving Caldari traditions, dating back to the Raata Empire (GÇª) [and] widely in practice still today although its lack of modern practical use. Children are usually trained from the age of four, (...) [in] the rather questionable belief that it helps them develop discipline and spiritual strength (GÇª) [and although] being obviously useless for space warfare it is a requirement for all warship pilots. Among the many bizarre misconceptions the Caldari hold for their GÇ£artGÇ¥ (GÇª) is the clearly irrational belief that dueling against each other is a way to preserve unity among them (GÇª) belief that only a militaristic, tradition-obsessed society like the Caldari could possibly keep alive to this modern age.GÇ¥" source: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Fighting_duels Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3050	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:37:00 - [95] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to *** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. To be fair -- Matari Sentinels have to be played like Assaults with HMGs. They can't go toe to toe with ANY of the sentinels and are only slightly at an advantage within 20 meters vs another assault.... I disagree. My minmitar sentinel will wreck just about anything. Other sentinels don't know how to strafe or aim. They just rely on scrubby suit-given advantages. Assaults will die to HMG's 99/100 times inside of 30 meters. Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to * about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get 15% less HP, 35% worse regen (than Caldari), and the largest hitboxes. What the kitten are you talking about? We were given larger hit boxes a while back before aim assist because our speed **** with hit detection really badly. So thats what Im talking about. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
neausea 1987 1.U.P Capital Punishment. 171	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:24:00 - [96] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: You can nerf me into nonexistence and I'd still find a way to murder you. NUFF SAID this is all I have a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ.... GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ .... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!


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