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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1251
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:19:00 -
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Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout?
Chocolate Juice
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Sinboto Simmons
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
6612
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:22:00 -
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Let's be honest, no matter how hard they make it to stab these super tanked armour tryhards (now with scans) we're going to do it anyway.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
Born of the Brutor tribe
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4743
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:22:00 -
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For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it.
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
2028
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:26:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity...
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1251
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:26:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Let's be honest, no matter how hard they make it to stab these super tanked armour tryhards (now with scans) we're going to do it anyway.
True, but these changes seem like constant barrages on the Scout, now don't get me wrong here, some scouts go around unaffected (Gallante, Caldari, most certainly the Amarr with their brick tank) while the minmatar is left with the cancer with no cure.
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1251
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:27:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity...
Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's.
Chocolate Juice
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Vicious Minotaur
1437
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:27:00 -
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You can nerf me into nonexistence and I'd still find a way to murder you.
I am a minotaur.
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Sinboto Simmons
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
6613
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:31:00 -
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I'd like to point out the two guys talking trash are both Amarr, and that's just funny in an ironic way.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
Born of the Brutor tribe
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
2028
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:32:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3037
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:33:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed.
To pay for those sins, we get 15% less HP, 35% worse regen (than Caldari), and the largest hitboxes.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3037
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:35:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Stop saying "you can scout". What does that mean, exactly?
You can Sentinel. You can Commando. You can LAV. You can Dropship. You can Assault.
And by risk you mean "100% impossible to get the drop on someone to knife them"? Because then yes, I agree.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4743
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:35:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1252
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:38:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I'd like to point out the two guys talking trash are both Amarr, and that's just funny in an ironic way.
To tell you the truth, Ratttati annoys me. With every patch/hotfix comes nerfs to everything I ever did. Tanks-ADS-Scouts-projectiles-ect.-ect. The only suit I have left that is worth a damn in my Minmatar Assault.
He wants everything to be eqaul in EWAR category. NO! Scout is suppose to blow the water in EWAR, we shouldn't have to dedicate all our F'ing lows to get under and assault suit with like 2-3 precision. Assaults have two slots over the scout and a crap ton of HP over the scout. By putting those two slots to use, you can literally get to scout status and = stats still have the 6 other slots like scout to work with and still tank more than scout.
What is the scout getting? A 15% CPU/PG reduction per level to a piece of junk equipment that takes all the bonuses you get from EWAR mods and 2.5 million SP investment in the scout suit down the drain.
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1254
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:40:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it.
Minmatar seriously take more damage than any other race. I can literally run around in a cal scout with 250 shields and still be 10x more survivable than my 343 min scout running at 9.5 m/s.
Chocolate Juice
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3041
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:41:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. You aren't slow though...you have the same acceleration as every other suit...GêP. Thats the only speed that matters really. Everything else is just hit box and connection.
And we were given a larger hit box a WHILE back, because it was the only thing balancing our speed when there was no aim assist, which, by the way nullifies our speed, but makes your HP even better.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3041
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:42:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. Minmatar seriously take more damage than any other race. I can literally run around in a cal scout with 250 shields and still be 10x more survivable than my 343 min scout running at 9.5 m/s. Thats only hit box...we don't take inherently more damage to the best of my knowledge.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4744
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:43:00 -
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Well to be fair you don't have to use the cloak which then opens up "All kindz of gainz" while the assault just got pg/cpu reductions and bad primary bonuses excluding the Amarr/Min
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4352
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:44:00 -
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My MinScout will be the least affected Scout when the changes drop. I have maxed eWar, but I equip no eWar mods. I have maxed Biotics, but I don't use KinCats. I have maxed cloaks, but they see little play.
If my NK and hacking bonuses stay the same, and if I will still be able to sprint at 8.22 m/s with 650+ eHP tank, then I will not be affected by anything. I will continue to lay waste to all who think my build is improper or poorly fitted. |
Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1254
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:44:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Stop saying "you can scout". What does that mean, exactly? You can Sentinel. You can Commando. You can LAV. You can Dropship. You can Assault. And by risk you mean "100% impossible to get the drop on someone to knife them"? Because then yes, I agree.
Dude, scouts are done. WE DONT HAVE SHET GOING FOR US. The FOTM have moved on to heavies and Assaults.
We don't really have Ewar. Assaults can get about the same ewar as us and still maintain more HP. We don't HP... hurr durr We don't have element of surprise. Everything will be able to scan our ass in 1.10. We don't have situational awareness. You might as well run a heavy for EWAR than a scout with a cloak. The cloak is so sh*********************t. Scouts are done. Even the Scout Scout's are done. Also, we have no directional awareness combined with low hp and short range weapon like nova knives is like a recipe for disaster.
Chocolate Juice
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
2029
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:45:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Stop saying "you can scout". What does that mean, exactly? You can Sentinel. You can Commando. You can LAV. You can Dropship. You can Assault. And by risk you mean "100% impossible to get the drop on someone to knife them"? Because then yes, I agree. He said take away the scout in scout which is blatantly not true... its not like your scans are getting worse you just dont see which way they are facing now which means a properly paranoid individual will be harder to sneak up on(but not impossible). Knowing which way the enemy is facing without IS WAY TOO POWERFUL and made it cake to negate any possible attempt by a merc to watch his back.
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1254
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:45:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. Minmatar seriously take more damage than any other race. I can literally run around in a cal scout with 250 shields and still be 10x more survivable than my 343 min scout running at 9.5 m/s. Thats only hit box...we don't take inherently more damage to the best of my knowledge.
Test's were done on militia Caldari heavy vs Min Heavy with shotgun and the Min heavy took 20% more damage. The thread is somewhere in features and discussion.
Chocolate Juice
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4744
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:47:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it. Yeah so many inherent bonuses, like 5% more melee damage, speed, and hack speed. To pay for those sins, we get a LOT less HP, terrible regen, and the largest hitboxes. Prove you have a larger hit box plus don't start with that less hp crap that's like me crying about being slow... won't really get you far now will it. You aren't slow though...you have the same acceleration as every other suit...GêP. Thats the only speed that matters really. Everything else is just hit box and connection. And we were given a larger hit box a WHILE back, because it was the only thing balancing our speed when there was no aim assist, which, by the way nullifies our speed, but makes your HP even better. Still waiting for the actual prove bro. Plus since when was acceleration added to dropsuits? Because I'm pretty suit ever suit can go from 0 to max sprint speed in nano seconds.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
974
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:47:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us
Shut it, vitharr. Stinking hypocrite.
Don't even get me started.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3045
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:51:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:My MinScout will be the least affected Scout when the changes drop. I have maxed eWar, but I equip no eWar mods. I have maxed Biotics, but I don't use KinCats. I have maxed cloaks, but they see little play.
If my NK and hacking bonuses stay the same, and if I will still be able to sprint at 8.22 m/s with 650+ eHP tank, then I will not be affected by anything. I will continue to lay waste to all who think my build is improper or poorly fitted. If you have more than 430 HP, you're doing it wrong. Seriously.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
2029
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:51:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. you can scout still. but now you have risk like the rest of us Shut it, vitharr. Stinking hypocrite. Don't even get me started. where pray tell is the hypocrisy? Dunno if you noticed but I run all suits, and I'm pretty sure my scout is as affected as any other scout.
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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xavier zor
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
342
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:52:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout?
A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks
1.10 will kill stealthy scouts
time to respec into an assault :D
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3045
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:52:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You aren't slow though...you have the same acceleration as every other suit...GêP. Thats the only speed that matters really. Everything else is just hit box and connection.
And we were given a larger hit box a WHILE back, because it was the only thing balancing our speed when there was no aim assist, which, by the way nullifies our speed, but makes your HP even better.
Still waiting for the actual prove bro. Plus since when was acceleration added to dropsuits? Because I'm pretty suit every suit can go from 0 to max sprint speed in nano seconds. AGH DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT THE INFINITE SIGN IS...?
You literally just proved my point right there. All acceleration is the same. Its infinite. Therefore, there is none, because velocity vectors change instantaneously.
Give me proof that the hack speed is slower on Amarr than Minmitar.
When you can do that sufficiently, Ill be obligated to prove to you that we have smaller hit boxes.
Until that point, you'll just have to take my word for it.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1256
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:53:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks
Yup, because I skilled into scout to tank as much as a heavy. Maybe the "Scout" in Scout suit stands for something. EWAR.
Chocolate Juice
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4975
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:54:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Let's be honest, no matter how hard they make it to stab these super tanked armour tryhards (now with scans) we're going to do it anyway. I know that for a fact. |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3045
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:55:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray?
Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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