Don't worry about it buddy.. Apparently they don't work lol.. But yes, the butthurt here is laughable.. "My scout isn't fotm anymore" then get an assault suit if that's all ur worried about. Get a respec... Don't want to? Then play something that never changes so u can pick an OP thing and never have to worry about change... Adapt or die ... I don't see how people still get all upset like this game never changes all the time... Pathetic

Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's.

So you don't know what way someone is facing. How does that completely cripple scouting?

A nerf it is, but very tangential in its wound

This coming from the guy who seemingly thinks replacing his spine with a stick up his rear makes him superior?

Yup :D a stick is better than being completely spineless.. You guys think you are the only ones who got screwed in the history of this game?! Again, laughable

How cute, I didn't realise you know my mind.

I know well, I've been through it all.

Why should anyone have to change their roles?

Sinboto is a long time scout, who was scouting and a Minja long before the 1.8 patch. Back when there were probably less than 100 players maining a Minja.

I also chose Minja because that is my style, regardless of game.

The point of the fixes should be balance, and further buffing suits like heavies that are already very much over performing, in an effort to nerf FotM scouts, while making life hell for those that are truly dedicated to the role is not effective balancing.

Nor is it reasonable to simply ask that we choose another play style in order to be relevant. We should be relevant regardless, just as support Logis should, and Assault slayers, and Commandos.

We shouldn't sacrifice legit roles for the sake of pseudo balance.

True.. But you know as well as any of us, when things get nerfed.. It gets it hard.. I guess I'm just thankful that there is a radar in the game at all

@brett morris518

It seems you can't read minds after all.

Like yourself I'm a veteran, the thought of swapping never crossed my mind period, and have already started jotting down new tactics for my dear Minja.

Presumption is one of the most amusing mistakes humans can make, don't you agree?

For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it.

For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it.

I don't even play this game anymore but the scout QQ still makes me so damn upset.

We've been nerfed several times and NONE OF YOU HATE SCOUTS, YOU JUST HATE SCOUT SHOTGUNS. A SCOUT WITH ANY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON IS NOT THAT EFFECTIVE AS IT HAS NO OTHER ADVANTAGES OUTSIDE OF eWAR.

A scout with any other weapon than a shotgun will lose a 1v1 to an equally skilled or possibly even lesser skilled player that has more HP. The hitboxes aren't broken, and EVERYONE CAN STRAFE. HEAVIES CAN DO IT TOO, AND EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE AT THAT.

You scout QQers are ridiculous. It's gotten so bad that people are still crying to make them side-arms only. The only thing you don't like is being OHK'd, meanwhile I'm sure none of you have any problem with spamming core locus grenades at the opposition. This game has a very high average TTK compared to other games, but the scout takes advantage of very high alpha damage weapons (shotgun, nova knives and REs) in exchange for significantly less eHP.

Brick tanking scouts are terrible and there's a reason all the true slayers run 450hp or less. And everytime there is a scout nerf, or eWar buffs to other suits, the Minmitar always takes the hardest hit because it doesn't have an eWar bonus. All it has is knives and a little bit faster base speed. It has **** for PG/CPU, and it's only real niche is becoming harder and harder to use by the day.

And if you don't understand because you still slay noobies in pubs, please shut up. I can drop 30+ kills in a pub with a starter fit, easily. Pubs are the easiest thing to do in this game, PC, where you actually play against competent enemies, is where you get wrecked because of your castrated shell of a scout.

For the love of god RP aside stop with the "Oh my suit is so weak becuze iz a murtar" you got so many inherent bonuses shoved up your ass it should be a crime to ***** about it. The only matar suit that could complain is maybe juuuuuust maybe your sentinel and that mostly because people RARELY whine about it.

On the subject of heavies, whilst the changes make them harder for scouts to combat, it will be a lot easier for mediums. In most cases medium will see heavies on radar within 30m (more for a logi). This will make it easier for mediums to avoid running into the hmg death machines without being prepared.
Also the bandwidth adds an additional penalty to running a heavy.

I'm not sure this is an overall buff to heavies.

That's because the minsent is hands down the best assault suit in the game.

Arrows are still there btw...

I really dont see why this is a problem and should be taken away. It's like removing the scope on the Rail Rifle; theres no reason to remove it.