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Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1019	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:55:00 - [31] - Quote The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Fack it, might as well board the hype-train again. At least there's tracks this time.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4353	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:55:00 - [32] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: My MinScout will be the least affected Scout when the changes drop. I have maxed eWar, but I equip no eWar mods. I have maxed Biotics, but I don't use KinCats. I have maxed cloaks, but they see little play. If my NK and hacking bonuses stay the same, and if I will still be able to sprint at 8.22 m/s with 650+ eHP tank, then I will not be affected by anything. I will continue to lay waste to all who think my build is improper or poorly fitted. If you have more than 430 HP, you're doing it wrong. Seriously. You wanna fight, bro?! Bring it! runs away
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2029	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:00:00 - [33] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. 0 bandwidth is hardly a buff... still have the lowest scan radius as well Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4746	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:01:00 - [34] - Quote Woops just saw acceleration & jumped the gun( causing me not to even notice the infinite sign). But! I still don't understand what you getting at by saying what we all know? I know there's no acceleration but the fact is the Amarr, Cal, and Gal meds, heavy, and lights are slower period. My assault is flat out slow compared to the other race's. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 342	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:03:00 - [35] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. Agreed! The heavy spam is worse than scout spam now. Whenever I used my heavy I felt so normal as half my team were militia heavies. That is a good thing because the enemy team is to....easy pickings for scouts 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4746	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:03:00 - [36] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: xavier zor wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? A nerf to noobs like you who depend on wallhacks And wheres the nerf to noobs and scrubs who stack 1600 HP on an Amarr sentinel with a 900 DPS death ray? Oh wait, they get a buff instead. Cause balance yo. It's a sentinel for crying out loud and an Amarr one to be exact not like we have resistance plates to but in those lows. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Izlare Lenix Titans of Phoenix 1166	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:06:00 - [37] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Dude, scouts are done. WE DONT HAVE SHET GOING FOR US. The FOTM have moved on to heavies and Assaults. We don't really have Ewar. Assaults can get about the same ewar as us and still maintain more HP. We don't HP... hurr durr We don't have element of surprise. Everything will be able to scan our ass in 1.10. We don't have situational awareness. You might as well run a heavy for EWAR than a scout with a cloak. The cloak is so sh*********************t. Scouts are done. Even the Scout Scout's are done. Also, we have no directional awareness combined with low hp and short range weapon like nova knives is like a recipe for disaster. ^ Sadly. All of this is true. Being able to sneak up on a target was the only things scouts had that another role couldn't do better. Now that this ability will be taken away scouts will be almost useless. The HMG spam is already bad now and this scout nerf is going to make it soooooo much worse. The only winner of WWIII will be the cockroaches.
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 164	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:06:00 - [38] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Well, if people did use the scout suit to scout they wouldn't be getting nerfed. Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. In that regard, scouts just got a buff to actual scouting. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:07:00 - [39] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Dude, scouts are done. WE DONT HAVE SHET GOING FOR US. The FOTM have moved on to heavies and Assaults. We don't really have Ewar. Assaults can get about the same ewar as us and still maintain more HP. We don't HP... hurr durr We don't have element of surprise. Everything will be able to scan our ass in 1.10. We don't have situational awareness. You might as well run a heavy for EWAR than a scout with a cloak. The cloak is so sh*********************t. Scouts are done. Even the Scout Scout's are done. Also, we have no directional awareness combined with low hp and short range weapon like nova knives is like a recipe for disaster. ^ Sadly. All of this is true. Being able to sneak up on a target was the only things scouts had that another role couldn't do better. Now that this ability will be taken away scouts will be almost useless. The HMG spam is already bad and now and this scout nerf is going to make it soooooo much worse. Why doesn't Rattati understand? Chocolate Juice
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:09:00 - [40] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Well, if people did use the scout suit to scout they wouldn't be getting nerfed. Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. In that regard, scouts just got a buff to actual scouting. There is a huge problem. You get no WP for providing passive scans to squad. I would literally be below the starter fit users if Scouts in your opinion did what scouts did. Chocolate Juice

xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 342	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:10:00 - [41] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:12:00 - [42] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? Nobody. It's like going around in BF4 sitting in a tree and pointing out people to the whole team for a living while they get lots of points you get 0 kills every match. Chocolate Juice
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 164	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:13:00 - [43] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? oh noes now scouts have to use their eyes too??! the humanity... Yeah, makes total sense, take away the "scout" in scout and just make my 2.5 million sp investment go toward a light frame with a few extra CPU's and PG's. Well, if people did use the scout suit to scout they wouldn't be getting nerfed. Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. In that regard, scouts just got a buff to actual scouting. There is a huge problem. You get no WP for providing passive scans to squad. I would literally be below the starter fit users if Scouts in your opinion did what scouts did. Lol, wuh? I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2029	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:14:00 - [44] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:15:00 - [45] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... You act like scouts were risk fee. Since when was fighting 1600 EHP 900 DPS death machines in a 300-400 hp suit risk free? Chocolate Juice
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 342	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:17:00 - [46] - Quote Scouts have always been risk free as long as we are the masters of eWar, remain unseen in eWar and use our element of surprise to our advantage. Not everyone does these things. Now CCP removed this and we might as well be fodder 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:20:00 - [47] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Scouts have always been risk free as long as we are the masters of eWar, remain unseen in eWar and use our element of surprise to our advantage. Not everyone does these things. Now CCP removed this and we might as well be fodder Risk free as in always win in engagement is a false accusation. Risk Free as in a smart played engagement is a better accusation. I only engage enemies that I can beat, why would I engage a herd of heavies with a rifle? Maybe I make it look risk free. Chocolate Juice
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10438	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:24:00 - [48] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? Not really. I have learned to take a peak around corners without having to rely on the minimap. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:27:00 - [49] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Another nerf to Nova Knives and Minmatar scout? Not really. I have learned to take a peak around corners without having to rely on the minimap. Take another peak, I saw you coming a mile away in my Amarr Assault and I had my scrambler charged and loaded ready to pop you in between the eyes. -sincerely 1.10 Chocolate Juice
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2030	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:27:00 - [50] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... You act like scouts were risk fee. Since when was fighting 1600 EHP 900 DPS death machines in a 300-400 hp suit risk free? wait for target to turn around SG or KN in back ???? profit Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:35:00 - [51] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Scouting means actually moving to a forward point and remaining at a certain distance without being seen then looking at what you are scouting. but who actually wants to play dust 514 with a badass scout suit to just look at something? you can still kill things you just have a bit of risk now... You act like scouts were risk fee. Since when was fighting 1600 EHP 900 DPS death machines in a 300-400 hp suit risk free? wait for target to turn around SG or KN in back ???? profit That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. Chocolate Juice
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 345	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:40:00 - [52] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: wait for target to turn around SG or KN in back ???? profit That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. It works now, but not in 1.10 with the new close range precision buff. Heavys will not be able to see us as long as we are dampened (ridiculous) but other scouts can and assaults if they equip precision mods according to CCP Rattati on his spreadsheets. 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2031	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:43:00 - [53] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1258	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:47:00 - [54] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. You had just an equal ability to see through a freking wall. Chocolate Juice
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 345	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:47:00 - [55] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. Good that they removed directional indicators from the TACNET bad they gave the ability for assaults that run no eWar to see scouts through walls that run no eWar worse yet If they run eWar, and we run eWar they can still see us within close proximities (more than the thickness of the wall you are hiding behind). Scout eWar is meant to be superior 1.10 will kill stealthy scouts time to respec into an assault :D
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2031	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:56:00 - [56] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. You had just an equal ability to see through a freking wall. Like I said before noone is trying to take your scans, but being able to see which a merc is looking through a wall is too powerful. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2506	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:58:00 - [57] - Quote A long overdue change, IMO.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2033	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:00:00 - [58] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: That may work currently but this discussion is about 1.10 concerns. BTW- don't teach me how to use nova knives, i've been using them since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure I have more experience than you. As an Amarr specialist, I can guarantee you use them more then I do considering our scout is out run by assaults. All I'm saying is with the advent of 1.10 a cautious player has a chance now where previously they did not due to the magical ability to see which way a merc was facing THROUGH A FREAKING WALL. Good that they removed directional indicators from the TACNET bad they gave the ability for assaults that run no eWar to see scouts through walls that run no eWar worse yet If they run eWar, and we run eWar they can still see us within close proximities (more than the thickness of the wall you are hiding behind). Scout eWar is meant to be superior Scout eWar is superior you have better range and precision especially after getting your passive eWar skills up. Hell, even my heavy benefits from it as it allows me to be invisible to another heavy that thought eWar was unnecessary. Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1022	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:07:00 - [59] - Quote Everyone in this thread, 50 DKP minus. Fack it, might as well board the hype-train again. At least there's tracks this time.
brett morris518 is well hung 21	Posted - 2014.12.09 05:08:00 - [60] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: The concentrated stupid in this thread makes me want to put a shotgun in my mouth. congrats guys! Don't worry about it buddy.. Apparently they don't work lol.. But yes, the butthurt here is laughable.. "My scout isn't fotm anymore" then get an assault suit if that's all ur worried about. Get a respec... Don't want to? Then play something that never changes so u can pick an OP thing and never have to worry about change... Adapt or die ... I don't see how people still get all upset like this game never changes all the time... Pathetic



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