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Zatara Rought wrote:

Perhaps biased because I was in TeamPlayers but here goes:

Cubs was the most powerful...When I perceived Cubs started letting Kane make the meta decisions (and THAT was crazy for me to watch) then Kane was.

The fact that Kane managed to get everyone in DNS (pissed off or not) to let him be the "LEADER" is flabbergasting. GG Kane. It's impressive, bar none. That's a **** ton of conflicting ego's all to fall in line for the most part in organizing what should have been pure chaos? (not that he was perfect...there definitely was chaos ex: the PFC handling...but even then where did all the districts go? That's right...)

I think Mavado was the alliance leader, but when HS attacked EoN. it was Cubs who sent the messages to Kujo. When OH attacked and subsequently learned that their flaylock spam was insufficient...it was Cubs who negotiated them coming into EoN.

AE leadership (Kujo indisputably made HS go, but AE was a different animal. Soul and others stepped up and he wasn't the only one steering that ship.

I think Sha was a super powerful leader. I think Mavado was a very powerful leader. Back in the day I think Quick was a very powerful leader.

I never knew the Zitro's extensively. I only met them after the fact and only squadded with them a handful of times while they played. But my perception is that they managed to keep a bunch of leaders like PDiggy22 together and satisfied. To keep that many leaders and ego's and for it to function? That's some charisma.

I think for all my issues with his decision making Radar kept his family together for the most part, and a powerful family it is/was. No one can deny the bonds that tied people like Blitz and Tibs and Guy.

When I was forming FA I wanted FA to be between the sizes of TP (small) and AE (larger). I wanted the drive I felt in TP. The expectation that TP embodied. Cubs expected us to show up...and we did. Someone once said "I don't get how you guys can be there every time with such consistency" we literally had like like 10 10 who rotated about 4-5 positions but the same 10 were here every single night in our prime.

I remember beating in SyN in the tourney and Mavado being disappointed his best guys chose not to log in. I remember certain TP members refusing to log on for the tourney final for w/e reason and realizing it just wasn't the same.

I saw people who formed communities that were so amazingly loyal and inspired loyalty.

I'm so grateful for loyalty from people like Skeletor, Ken, Himiko, and so many others like Lags and Devin.

In a game that so often watches droves leave STB or KEQ or so may other places...sticking around and forgiving and being humble and growing and being willing to accept imperfect people (especially me) has been such a blessing.

Look at RND man. Look at the loyalty leaders like Dubbs inspire. I was never a leader man. I got on dust and had no idea that this game could afford you these types of opportunities if you have the time and will to make it so.

it's a fascinating game.

It's still surreal sometimes. Like here's a prime comment for me to get trolled about so feel free I'm giving it to you free but think

Sure there are others who are much more qualified to be CPM instead of myself, but the fact that I managed to get like 150 people to vote for me among a few other people who absolutely could have been great CPM's (looking at Pokey particularly) and that's just the ones that the system counted if you know how it works.

It's actually very humbling. And weird.

Because of how intimately i've always relied on others to help me make decisions (Himiko and Black Art at first, Ken and people like Xero, and then people like Skeletor and Lags and Devin still later) I don't think I qualify as being particularly powerful. The only time I felt powerful as a leader was when in my absence **** went to pieces and then I'd come back and feel like the ship got righted and we'd start acting like ourselves again.

Thankfully though those days have passed.

Loyalty is the most sought after thing in dust. If you can maintain a competitive mindset and yet never consider leaving when your clan gets **** on...welcome to the club. TP did it, AE did it, FA did it, OH did it..and others before PC was released.

It's the ones that ragequit when they start losing that are dissatisfying.

And inasmuch as leadership is tied to keeping their troops around when **** gets hard...props to those leaders.

Just my thoughts.

Really interesting topic Silver!

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Silver Strike44 wrote:

I am not asking who are the best players, best slayers, most popular, or biggest trolls.

I am asking who the people are who have, at different times, had the most power (or control or hold over people or whatever you want to call it) in Dust.

Who are they now?
Who are the most powerful in the history of Dust?

Long time ago in beta time i was 1 of the best killers, right now not the best but proud of being officer 3 times, so i would say that my name will live long time in DUST 514 or EVE or Legion. etc..

to me the best killers were
Omnipotens Zitro
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if u ask me right now i don't know who is a good player because at the beginning of the beta there were no sqds so it was easier to say whom was a really good killer, right now because of sqds, mics coordination, is difficult to me determine who is really beast right now.

(of course that's my opinion, i don't want to hurt others with it)
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Zatara Rought wrote:

Perhaps biased because I was in TeamPlayers but here goes:

Cubs was the most powerful...When I perceived Cubs started letting Kane make the meta decisions (and THAT was crazy for me to watch) then Kane was.

The fact that Kane managed to get everyone in DNS (pissed off or not) to let him be the "LEADER" is flabbergasting. GG Kane. It's impressive, bar none. That's a **** ton of conflicting ego's all to fall in line for the most part in organizing what should have been pure chaos? (not that he was perfect...there definitely was chaos ex: the PFC handling...but even then where did all the districts go? That's right...)

I think Mavado was the alliance leader, but when HS attacked EoN. it was Cubs who sent the messages to Kujo. When OH attacked and subsequently learned that their flaylock spam was insufficient...it was Cubs who negotiated them coming into EoN.

AE leadership (Kujo indisputably made HS go, but AE was a different animal. Soul and others stepped up and he wasn't the only one steering that ship.

I think Sha was a super powerful leader. I think Mavado was a very powerful leader. Back in the day I think Quick was a very powerful leader.

I never knew the Zitro's extensively. I only met them after the fact and only squadded with them a handful of times while they played. But my perception is that they managed to keep a bunch of leaders like PDiggy22 together and satisfied. To keep that many leaders and ego's and for it to function? That's some charisma.

I think for all my issues with his decision making Radar kept his family together for the most part, and a powerful family it is/was. No one can deny the bonds that tied people like Blitz and Tibs and Guy.

When I was forming FA I wanted FA to be between the sizes of TP (small) and AE (larger). I wanted the drive I felt in TP. The expectation that TP embodied. Cubs expected us to show up...and we did. Someone once said "I don't get how you guys can be there every time with such consistency" we literally had like like 10 10 who rotated about 4-5 positions but the same 10 were here every single night in our prime.

I remember beating in SyN in the tourney and Mavado being disappointed his best guys chose not to log in. I remember certain TP members refusing to log on for the tourney final for w/e reason and realizing it just wasn't the same.

I saw people who formed communities that were so amazingly loyal and inspired loyalty.

I'm so grateful for loyalty from people like Skeletor, Ken, Himiko, and so many others like Lags and Devin.

In a game that so often watches droves leave STB or KEQ or so may other places...sticking around and forgiving and being humble and growing and being willing to accept imperfect people (especially me) has been such a blessing.

Look at RND man. Look at the loyalty leaders like Dubbs inspire. I was never a leader man. I got on dust and had no idea that this game could afford you these types of opportunities if you have the time and will to make it so.

it's a fascinating game.

It's still surreal sometimes. Like here's a prime comment for me to get trolled about so feel free I'm giving it to you free but think

Sure there are others who are much more qualified to be CPM instead of myself, but the fact that I managed to get like 150 people to vote for me among a few other people who absolutely could have been great CPM's (looking at Pokey particularly) and that's just the ones that the system counted if you know how it works.

It's actually very humbling. And weird.

Because of how intimately i've always relied on others to help me make decisions (Himiko and Black Art at first, Ken and people like Xero, and then people like Skeletor and Lags and Devin still later) I don't think I qualify as being particularly powerful. The only time I felt powerful as a leader was when in my absence **** went to pieces and then I'd come back and feel like the ship got righted and we'd start acting like ourselves again.

Thankfully though those days have passed.

Loyalty is the most sought after thing in dust. If you can maintain a competitive mindset and yet never consider leaving when your clan gets **** on...welcome to the club. TP did it, AE did it, FA did it, OH did it..and others before PC was released.

It's the ones that ragequit when they start losing that are dissatisfying.

And inasmuch as leadership is tied to keeping their troops around when **** gets hard...props to those leaders.

Just my thoughts.

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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

Zatara Rought wrote:

Perhaps biased because I was in TeamPlayers but here goes:

Cubs was the most powerful...When I perceived Cubs started letting Kane make the meta decisions (and THAT was crazy for me to watch) then Kane was.

The fact that Kane managed to get everyone in DNS (pissed off or not) to let him be the "LEADER" is flabbergasting. GG Kane. It's impressive, bar none. That's a **** ton of conflicting ego's all to fall in line for the most part in organizing what should have been pure chaos? (not that he was perfect...there definitely was chaos ex: the PFC handling...but even then where did all the districts go? That's right...)

I think Mavado was the alliance leader, but when HS attacked EoN. it was Cubs who sent the messages to Kujo. When OH attacked and subsequently learned that their flaylock spam was insufficient...it was Cubs who negotiated them coming into EoN.

AE leadership (Kujo indisputably made HS go, but AE was a different animal. Soul and others stepped up and he wasn't the only one steering that ship.

I think Sha was a super powerful leader. I think Mavado was a very powerful leader. Back in the day I think Quick was a very powerful leader.

I never knew the Zitro's extensively. I only met them after the fact and only squadded with them a handful of times while they played. But my perception is that they managed to keep a bunch of leaders like PDiggy22 together and satisfied. To keep that many leaders and ego's and for it to function? That's some charisma.

I think for all my issues with his decision making Radar kept his family together for the most part, and a powerful family it is/was. No one can deny the bonds that tied people like Blitz and Tibs and Guy.

When I was forming FA I wanted FA to be between the sizes of TP (small) and AE (larger). I wanted the drive I felt in TP. The expectation that TP embodied. Cubs expected us to show up...and we did. Someone once said "I don't get how you guys can be there every time with such consistency" we literally had like like 10 10 who rotated about 4-5 positions but the same 10 were here every single night in our prime.

I remember beating in SyN in the tourney and Mavado being disappointed his best guys chose not to log in. I remember certain TP members refusing to log on for the tourney final for w/e reason and realizing it just wasn't the same.

I saw people who formed communities that were so amazingly loyal and inspired loyalty.

I'm so grateful for loyalty from people like Skeletor, Ken, Himiko, and so many others like Lags and Devin.

In a game that so often watches droves leave STB or KEQ or so may other places...sticking around and forgiving and being humble and growing and being willing to accept imperfect people (especially me) has been such a blessing.

Look at RND man. Look at the loyalty leaders like Dubbs inspire. I was never a leader man. I got on dust and had no idea that this game could afford you these types of opportunities if you have the time and will to make it so.

it's a fascinating game.

It's still surreal sometimes. Like here's a prime comment for me to get trolled about so feel free I'm giving it to you free but think

Sure there are others who are much more qualified to be CPM instead of myself, but the fact that I managed to get like 150 people to vote for me among a few other people who absolutely could have been great CPM's (looking at Pokey particularly) and that's just the ones that the system counted if you know how it works.

It's actually very humbling. And weird.

Because of how intimately i've always relied on others to help me make decisions (Himiko and Black Art at first, Ken and people like Xero, and then people like Skeletor and Lags and Devin still later) I don't think I qualify as being particularly powerful. The only time I felt powerful as a leader was when in my absence **** went to pieces and then I'd come back and feel like the ship got righted and we'd start acting like ourselves again.

Thankfully though those days have passed.

Loyalty is the most sought after thing in dust. If you can maintain a competitive mindset and yet never consider leaving when your clan gets **** on...welcome to the club. TP did it, AE did it, FA did it, OH did it..and others before PC was released.

It's the ones that ragequit when they start losing that are dissatisfying.

And inasmuch as leadership is tied to keeping their troops around when **** gets hard...props to those leaders.

Just my thoughts.

Really interesting topic Silver!

That was pretty extensive....I'm going to have to make a more detailed response than the one I did when I get a second.

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Zatara Rought wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

I was referring to when NF helped AE and then when OH and FA helped AE

Yeah honestly I'd give props to Kane for those.

When NF betrayed FA it was his decision and plan to go to AE from my understanding. Kane approached AE.

This forced us into a position. Man, I already had immense respect for Kujo and -especially- Soul. There were some trash talkers that got on some nerves, but FA always respected AE for being one family, one flag....where NF was whatever best ringer they could hire...that's their team. Such a departure from TP culture of rarely if ever using ringers (unless we were seriously understaffed or wanted to recruit them...see Sponge and Revoltz). I never liked Cubs after the way we parted ways and the antagonistic ego-fueled interactions we had. (not that i'm guilt-less at all, we both **** on any real opportunity to put behind the aftermath of my decision not to return to TP after Reg went to PS4 and I took the guys I had recruited to form FA)

So I feel like Kane more that Kujo was the driver of those decisions. Unless I'm mistaken he was the driving force for allowing AE to hire them. And he was obviously the reason I was put into a position where instead of fighting AE (because they persecuted FA much the same way TP persecuted AE when they created it and because they'd been the 'top dog' since TP and indeed EoN. as a whole left the game) I was left with little choice but to help AE in leaking NF's plans to destroy AE.

The other thing that has to be considered is the situation. Would NF have sided with AE if FA didn't exist? Would AE have sided with NF if NF and FA hadn't been beating the **** out of them?

Whenever there's three powers, inevitably 2 will overpower one.

Just jealousy and pride from NF that really tore it up. (They knew we'd have matched AE isk if they'd asked...they were just butthurt about stupid **** like the fact we'd been offered contracts to take out AE for 2 billion and the allure of spiting us was something I never predicted. They can say otherwise but that's honestly how it was perceived. I was plain stupid and didn't think of the consequences of being a little **** concerning my undercutting of their district service. (See where I SERIOUSLY gave them a heart attack because FA offered to give districts away for base cost (like 50-100m) as opposed to their MUCH higher pricing (200% plus).

I know they were mad about how we were extorting them on prices for providing Eve support and then they were mad when we had 2 many fights to accomodate them (they lost to AE a few times when they didn't have Eve support...this being another small reason why I think in the long run some were concerned that helping us defeat AE would spell the end for them...as you saw how the meta rolled out in here (anyone remember Sota's "snakes on a plane" alt?) when AE and FA worked together on a separate contract to beat NF soundly on a defense on the district I gave OH to get them back into PC. (only for them to be prideful and refuse help and get kicked out of PC again for another 3 months)

I've gotten way off topic here, but suffice it to say that when there are 3 powers. 2 will inevitably work to destroy the third.

I think Kane deserves more credit personally because I remember reading in the chats so often how Cubs would come in and Kane would smooth his concerns out.

It was just FLABBERGASTING. Inexplicable.

This was the guy that stubbornly said something...and it was done. over. No more questions.

And here was Kane just setting the goals and ironing out the details like Cubs was a child.

I'm not dissing on Cubs, I'm just giving props to Kane man. The dude's meta was the best.

I never felt like I was fighting Cubs when I was meta'ing against NF...it was Kane and Fiddle and Sota man. and maybe a little Beers but I think Kane was the real deal.

SMH, Kane beat me fair and square in the metagaming.

But it was never personal. When I met Kane at FF we were pals. He bought me breakfast man.

And that made the decision to betray him absolutely gutwrenching. For a long moment I seriously had 2nd thoughts..this isn't something anyone ever knew but maybe Ken and a few others I confided in...but w/e now you all know.

I was on a bus to the airport for the return trip and a friend there with me instructed me to betray DNS. I was so disoriented that morning (for numerous reasons)..but I never really looked back after he told me to attack them.

Wow I am going to get trolled for all the juicy **** I put in here.

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Zatara Rought wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

I was referring to when NF helped AE and then when OH and FA helped AE

Yeah honestly I'd give props to Kane for those.

When NF betrayed FA it was his decision and plan to go to AE from my understanding. Kane approached AE.

This forced us into a position. Man, I already had immense respect for Kujo and -especially- Soul. There were some trash talkers that got on some nerves, but FA always respected AE for being one family, one flag....where NF was whatever best ringer they could hire...that's their team. Such a departure from TP culture of rarely if ever using ringers (unless we were seriously understaffed or wanted to recruit them...see Sponge and Revoltz). I never liked Cubs after the way we parted ways and the antagonistic ego-fueled interactions we had. (not that i'm guilt-less at all, we both **** on any real opportunity to put behind the aftermath of my decision not to return to TP after Reg went to PS4 and I took the guys I had recruited to form FA)

So I feel like Kane more that Kujo was the driver of those decisions. Unless I'm mistaken he was the driving force for allowing AE to hire them. And he was obviously the reason I was put into a position where instead of fighting AE (because they persecuted FA much the same way TP persecuted AE when they created it and because they'd been the 'top dog' since TP and indeed EoN. as a whole left the game) I was left with little choice but to help AE in leaking NF's plans to destroy AE.

The other thing that has to be considered is the situation. Would NF have sided with AE if FA didn't exist? Would AE have sided with NF if NF and FA hadn't been beating the **** out of them?

Whenever there's three powers, inevitably 2 will overpower one.

Just jealousy and pride from NF that really tore it up. (They knew we'd have matched AE isk if they'd asked...they were just butthurt about stupid **** like the fact we'd been offered contracts to take out AE for 2 billion and the allure of spiting us was something I never predicted. They can say otherwise but that's honestly how it was perceived. I was plain stupid and didn't think of the consequences of being a little **** concerning my undercutting of their district service. (See where I SERIOUSLY gave them a heart attack because FA offered to give districts away for base cost (like 50-100m) as opposed to their MUCH higher pricing (200% plus).

I know they were mad about how we were extorting them on prices for providing Eve support and then they were mad when we had 2 many fights to accomodate them (they lost to AE a few times when they didn't have Eve support...this being another small reason why I think in the long run some were concerned that helping us defeat AE would spell the end for them...as you saw how the meta rolled out in here (anyone remember Sota's "snakes on a plane" alt?) when AE and FA worked together on a separate contract to beat NF soundly on a defense on the district I gave OH to get them back into PC. (only for them to be prideful and refuse help and get kicked out of PC again for another 3 months)

I've gotten way off topic here, but suffice it to say that when there are 3 powers. 2 will inevitably work to destroy the third.

I think Kane deserves more credit personally because I remember reading in the chats so often how Cubs would come in and Kane would smooth his concerns out.

It was just FLABBERGASTING. Inexplicable.

This was the guy that stubbornly said something...and it was done. over. No more questions.

And here was Kane just setting the goals and ironing out the details like Cubs was a child.

I'm not dissing on Cubs, I'm just giving props to Kane man. The dude's meta was the best.

I never felt like I was fighting Cubs when I was meta'ing against NF...it was Kane and Fiddle and Sota man. and maybe a little Beers but I think Kane was the real deal.

SMH, Kane beat me fair and square in the metagaming.

But it was never personal. When I met Kane at FF we were pals. He bought me breakfast man.

And that made the decision to betray him absolutely gutwrenching. For a long moment I seriously had 2nd thoughts..this isn't something anyone ever knew but maybe Ken and a few others I confided in...but w/e now you all know.

I was on a bus to the airport for the return trip and a friend there with me instructed me to betray DNS. I was so disoriented that morning (for numerous reasons)..but I never really looked back after he told me to attack them.

Wow I am going to get trolled for all the juicy **** I put in here.

Writing posts that give me nostalgia (I'd have never left and FA would never have happened if Imagio and Hightimes and Xero and everyone like the twins hadn't quit ) is like prinkles..once you pop the fun don't stop.

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"To fight and win is not supreme excellence, to break the enemy before fighting is supreme excellence." -Sun Tzu

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Zaria Min Deir wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

damn, i put alot of work into that post, even spaced it out and used paragraphs for you guys so its easy to read :(

Yes , isn't it just heartbreaking when you efforts just aren't appreciated. Don't worry, I am sure you'll bounce back in no time.

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?

"Go Go Power Rangers!"

))<>((

[Event]Dust Hunger Games

PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services

Zaria Min Deir wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

GeneraI John Ripper wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

damn, i put alot of work into that post, even spaced it out and used paragraphs for you guys so its easy to read :(

If you were never apart of ae then their collective skill would have gone up by 300%.

hmmm.. maybe, but then they'd have no one to give thier opinions to, as i was the only one with the balls to tell kujo when he was wrong which, was like 40% of the time.

it used to be zaria's job but she left. Even though she hated me, it saddened me inside that mom was no longer around :|

Ah, the hypocricy. "Saddened". I am sure. Because you had to find another target for your vitriol?

Hated you? I think you overestimate your emotional impact a little. I was perfectly happy being indifferent to you, you're the one that decided that there was no way for us to coexist. Being Kujo's voice of reason was pretty much pointless when there were people around devoting their time to undermining everything I tried to accomplish. Alas, I have never found any value in trying to out shout the rabble

99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg

Oh yeah?! Well, I love redheads.

Zaria Min Deir wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

GeneraI John Ripper wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

damn, i put alot of work into that post, even spaced it out and used paragraphs for you guys so its easy to read :(

If you were never apart of ae then their collective skill would have gone up by 300%.

hmmm.. maybe, but then they'd have no one to give thier opinions to, as i was the only one with the balls to tell kujo when he was wrong which, was like 40% of the time.

it used to be zaria's job but she left. Even though she hated me, it saddened me inside that mom was no longer around :|

Ah, the hypocricy. "Saddened". I am sure. Because you had to find another target for your vitriol?

Hated you? I think you overestimate your emotional impact a little. I was perfectly happy being indifferent to you, you're the one that decided that there was no way for us to coexist. Being Kujo's voice of reason was pretty much pointless when there were people around devoting their time to undermining everything I tried to accomplish. Alas, I have never found any value in trying to out shout the rabble

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

Derrith Erador wrote:

Zaria Min Deir wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

GeneraI John Ripper wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

damn, i put alot of work into that post, even spaced it out and used paragraphs for you guys so its easy to read :(

If you were never apart of ae then their collective skill would have gone up by 300%.

hmmm.. maybe, but then they'd have no one to give thier opinions to, as i was the only one with the balls to tell kujo when he was wrong which, was like 40% of the time.

it used to be zaria's job but she left. Even though she hated me, it saddened me inside that mom was no longer around :|

Ah, the hypocricy. "Saddened". I am sure. Because you had to find another target for your vitriol?

Hated you? I think you overestimate your emotional impact a little. I was perfectly happy being indifferent to you, you're the one that decided that there was no way for us to coexist. Being Kujo's voice of reason was pretty much pointless when there were people around devoting their time to undermining everything I tried to accomplish. Alas, I have never found any value in trying to out shout the rabble

OHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! You got TOLD RUMPSAGE!!!


*whispers* Tell me off too *ends whisper*

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

DJINN Rampage wrote:

Zaria Min Deir wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

GeneraI John Ripper wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

damn, i put alot of work into that post, even spaced it out and used paragraphs for you guys so its easy to read :(

If you were never apart of ae then their collective skill would have gone up by 300%.

hmmm.. maybe, but then they'd have no one to give thier opinions to, as i was the only one with the balls to tell kujo when he was wrong which, was like 40% of the time.

it used to be zaria's job but she left. Even though she hated me, it saddened me inside that mom was no longer around :|

Ah, the hypocricy. "Saddened". I am sure. Because you had to find another target for your vitriol?

Hated you? I think you overestimate your emotional impact a little. I was perfectly happy being indifferent to you, you're the one that decided that there was no way for us to coexist. Being Kujo's voice of reason was pretty much pointless when there were people around devoting their time to undermining everything I tried to accomplish. Alas, I have never found any value in trying to out shout the rabble

at the risk of sounding stupid(lol) what does vitriol mean?

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Killar-12 wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

Zaria Min Deir wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

GeneraI John Ripper wrote:

If you were never apart of ae then their collective skill would have gone up by 300%.

hmmm.. maybe, but then they'd have no one to give thier opinions to, as i was the only one with the balls to tell kujo when he was wrong which, was like 40% of the time.

it used to be zaria's job but she left. Even though she hated me, it saddened me inside that mom was no longer around :|

Ah, the hypocricy. "Saddened". I am sure. Because you had to find another target for your vitriol?

Hated you? I think you overestimate your emotional impact a little. I was perfectly happy being indifferent to you, you're the one that decided that there was no way for us to coexist. Being Kujo's voice of reason was pretty much pointless when there were people around devoting their time to undermining everything I tried to accomplish. Alas, I have never found any value in trying to out shout the rabble

at the risk of sounding stupid(lol) what does vitriol mean?

you always SOUND stupid, it's only arguable whether you actually ARE stupid.

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

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Hakyou Brutor supreme Overlord of Dust

"To fight and win is not supreme excellence, to break the enemy before fighting is supreme excellence." -Sun Tzu

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

http://evil-guide.tripod.com/

Sage /thread

"To fight and win is not supreme excellence, to break the enemy before fighting is supreme excellence." -Sun Tzu

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

FOR THE STATE

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

Sage /thread

FOR THE STATE

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

DJINN Rampage wrote:

Moochie Cricket wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

Moochie Cricket wrote:

Anyone else remember Hellstorm?

lol

this is funny cuz........?

It completely failed as a corp after getting stomped in PC and all the idiots with DJINN in their name scattered to whatever they considered the next FOTM corp.

But I can understand how you don't find it funny.

i could care less how you feel about hellstorm as my name is associated with AE. and that is where my loyalties lie. But i believe that hellstorm is still a corp and if im not mistaken... aern't they in your alliance? lolololol

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XEROO COOL wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

Moochie Cricket wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

Moochie Cricket wrote:

Anyone else remember Hellstorm?

lol

this is funny cuz........?

It completely failed as a corp after getting stomped in PC and all the idiots with DJINN in their name scattered to whatever they considered the next FOTM corp.

But I can understand how you don't find it funny.

i could care less how you feel about hellstorm as my name is associated with AE. and that is where my loyalties lie. But i believe that hellstorm is still a corp and if im not mistaken... aern't they in your alliance? lolololol

Your name was associated with Hellstorm you freaking PLEB. I was on the hellstorm.org website looking at old chat logs and saw you in there all "hellstorm 4 lyfe" or however you re tarded children speak these days. Don't get it twisted... you jumped ship just like everyone else. I can't blame you though with the way things went down over there.

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514

Xeroo.Cool on Skype. Kyle720 on PSN

you've been a b itch, fucc ni gga - black ice.

True Ancient Exile.

LoL>DUST514