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Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1084	Posted - 2014.12.08 23:33:00 - [1] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: [quote=Ydubbs81 RND] I'm mistaken he(Kane) was the driving force for allowing AE to hire them. He was actually the exclusive decision maker for that. The whole thing nearly fell apart at that moment, until we realized that we all kind of wanted to **** in your cheerios <3.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1084	Posted - 2014.12.08 23:59:00 - [2] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: Compared to how things are now - I look back on those days as good times. Kain definitely has a head for the meta. But I would say as an inside source working side by side with Kain and Cubs that it was Cubs who actually had the upper hand in everything. Everything Kain did was quite literally for Cubs. There would of been no DNS if Cubs hadn't made it a do or die for his participation in NF. Which is why I originally made contact with Tso - but Kain and Tso made things personal and it blew up in my face. So Kain got DNS support - and we all saw where that went. It wasn't so much Kain having amazing Meta game - then it was that the pieces on the board just came together so well for what NF was trying to accomplish. Cubs was the real head of Negative-Feedback during ERA's reign, and Kain the face. Kain was also the main decision maker for alliance wide decisions - but Cubs was the reason it all stayed together. They were a great duo. Eve support was a HUGE factor in our decision making at the time. Probably priority #1. While Kane did make the AE contract decision on his own, the ultimate goal was to obtain support of our own at some point in the (hopefully near) future. I give Kane a lot of credit: There was a very real chance that we could have been annihilated immediately at that point and he was able to turn it into initiative (There are other people to thank and reasons why things had to be done in a certain way, but I prefer to not get too deep into them). Ultimately however, the core of the organization followed Cubs and it was up to Kane to convince Cubs for anything really to happen... Even after Cubs quit playing. Nobody else had the respect as a player/FC/manager. I always tried to tread as lightly around the players as possible. No one wants to hear the MD speed build guy try to tell them what to do.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1086	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:24:00 - [3] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoLJae wrote: bigolenuts wrote: The leadership in AE was something I had never seen before. It seemed like no one person ever made a decision. There was Soul/Kujo of course but then you had Doc/Steel/Rampy and others that would contribute. Meetings would be so much fun because we would just attack someone for something as simple as a "gg" lol...good stuff. I miss those guys! Yeah, AE was always 1337 But I've always truly wondered who would've prevailed in an AE vs. imps fight. They were both dominant during two different times along DUST's development. But if you've been around DUST long enough and remember each, experienced each, then who do you think would have won? You have to remember that a good amount o AE came from the Imp/IE group. But judging from what I perceived, I don't think the Imps had AE's teamwork. But again, it was early in pc where everyone was still learning what's best. Imps' roster was bested by noone in Dust ever. They could have filled 2 squads with 7 KDR players easy. If the Imps would have adapted and learned teamwork to go with their raw talent, Imps would have won that war. Remember Regnyum, protoman, Reflex, Zitros, Ludvig, Moejoe, G-slick, etc. I'm not even counting the endless players that were competent enough to compete with anyone plus others that I can't even remember their names. Agree mostly Dubbs, but I have little doubt who would have been winner in that. We almost beat Imp's A squad with a thrown together team(STB&Friends vs Imps match 3 of the day). Granted, there were a lot of really solid players on that thrown together team, but you would expect a little more from guys of that caliber who had been playing together for a few months. Imps had incredible pure talent for sure, but post-1.4ish AE would have smacked them silly.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1087	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:06:00 - [4] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoLJae wrote: bigolenuts wrote: The leadership in AE was something I had never seen before. It seemed like no one person ever made a decision. There was Soul/Kujo of course but then you had Doc/Steel/Rampy and others that would contribute. Meetings would be so much fun because we would just attack someone for something as simple as a "gg" lol...good stuff. I miss those guys! Yeah, AE was always 1337 But I've always truly wondered who would've prevailed in an AE vs. imps fight. They were both dominant during two different times along DUST's development. But if you've been around DUST long enough and remember each, experienced each, then who do you think would have won? You have to remember that a good amount o AE came from the Imp/IE group. But judging from what I perceived, I don't think the Imps had AE's teamwork. But again, it was early in pc where everyone was still learning what's best. Imps' roster was bested by noone in Dust ever. They could have filled 2 squads with 7 KDR players easy. If the Imps would have adapted and learned teamwork to go with their raw talent, Imps would have won that war. Remember Regnyum, protoman, Reflex, Zitros, Ludvig, Moejoe, G-slick, etc. I'm not even counting the endless players that were competent enough to compete with anyone plus others that I can't even remember their names. Agree mostly Dubbs, but I have little doubt who would have been winner in that. We almost beat Imp's A squad with a thrown together team(STB&Friends vs Imps match 3 of the day). Granted, there were a lot of really solid players on that thrown together team, but you would expect a little more from guys of that caliber who had been playing together for a few months. Imps had incredible pure talent for sure, but post-1.4ish AE would have smacked them silly. AE would lose a lot of good players, doc,Titus, etc. Imps would still have Protoman, Reg, Reflex and many others, as someone who was in AE, not when they were the "top" corp Though, they were no where near the talent of Imps. All in all I would have liked AE more if it would have ended differently. They were a bunch of cool guys but I wouldn't put their talents on par with Imps. I had the chance to play against them when they were trying to push STB out the first time. We beat a team they sent out in one of the matches. Lo' and behold, the bat signal got sent out and the next match was against their A team. If I was doing the roster for them, I might have replaced 1-2 guys (If the criteria was "Pure Talent"). 10-12 of them had TAC ARs... It was a sight to see. Came down to one tick of armor(It appeared to both sides that imps had no armor left, couldn't have been any closer). The biggest takeaway was that their most talented team almost lost to a ringer squad. Admittedly, it was a pretty talented ringer squad, but if I made the cut, then it was certainly no all-star team... Point being: most of the teams that still play now-a-day would probably wipe the floor with imps as they existed then. They were operationally exceptional and above average in small group tactics, but relied on those advantages too heavily and never developed much strategic depth.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1089	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:03:00 - [5] - Quote Dert describes it as precisely as it needs to be described until that point. KA24DERT wrote: After that, things spiraled out of control. 1. We had an alliance dust meeting where a few select corps just spammed 100%!!!1 2. AE launched on PFC claiming 100%!!!1 3. NF launched on Kalante and rampages pet districts claiming 100%.... 4. Wheels almost come off(for like the tenth time) 5. Things get smoothed over(AE agrees to let ERA handle PFC, NF agrees to 100% goal) 6. I find myself in a position where I have a ton of clones, the ability to fairly reliably "Lock pick" districts, the ability to launch attacks, and three full teams of players to attack with. 7. 99%. 2007 super bowl all over again.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1089	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:23:00 - [6] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Dert describes it as precisely as it needs to be described until that point. KA24DERT wrote: After that, things spiraled out of control. 1. We had an alliance dust meeting where a few select corps just spammed 100%!!!1 2. AE launched on PFC claiming 100%!!!1 3. NF launched on Kalante and rampages pet districts claiming 100%.... 4. Wheels almost come off(for like the tenth time) 5. Things get smoothed over(AE agrees to let ERA handle PFC, NF agrees to 100% goal) 6. I find myself in a position where I have a ton of clones, the ability to fairly reliably "Lock pick" districts, the ability to launch attacks, and three full teams of players to attack with. 7. 99%. 2007 super bowl all over again. You forget to say DNSblack was the one that said get 100%, fiddle did a good job getting attacks on those districts that were locked He said a lot of things. That was just about the only one that was seized upon.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1098	Posted - 2014.12.14 21:51:00 - [7] - Quote Big Burns wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoLJae wrote: bigolenuts wrote: The leadership in AE was something I had never seen before. It seemed like no one person ever made a decision. There was Soul/Kujo of course but then you had Doc/Steel/Rampy and others that would contribute. Meetings would be so much fun because we would just attack someone for something as simple as a "gg" lol...good stuff. I miss those guys! Yeah, AE was always 1337 But I've always truly wondered who would've prevailed in an AE vs. imps fight. They were both dominant during two different times along DUST's development. But if you've been around DUST long enough and remember each, experienced each, then who do you think would have won? You have to remember that a good amount o AE came from the Imp/IE group. But judging from what I perceived, I don't think the Imps had AE's teamwork. But again, it was early in pc where everyone was still learning what's best. Imps' roster was bested by noone in Dust ever. They could have filled 2 squads with 7 KDR players easy. If the Imps would have adapted and learned teamwork to go with their raw talent, Imps would have won that war. Remember Regnyum, protoman, Reflex, Zitros, Ludvig, Moejoe, G-slick, etc. I'm not even counting the endless players that were competent enough to compete with anyone plus others that I can't even remember their names. Agree mostly Dubbs, but I have little doubt who would have been winner in that. We almost beat Imp's A squad with a thrown together team(STB&Friends vs Imps match 3 of the day). Granted, there were a lot of really solid players on that thrown together team, but you would expect a little more from guys of that caliber who had been playing together for a few months. Imps had incredible pure talent for sure, but post-1.4ish AE would have smacked them silly. I remember that fight and the two biggest contributors in that match. Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane kept the slayers on edge in the compound. And Ted Nugget trapped two imps in the pin under C. lol. Sat his tank on the ramp. I think there is footage of this on youtube somewhere. Cubs, AO, and CJ swapped back and forth between the two outside points. Gave them fits. Our dropship got shot down on the way in, instantkilled everyone, and we were never able to get a solid foothold in the city. I ended up getting ganked by TAC ARs trying to get links into good spots over and over :/. And yes, footage exists for all three of the matches that day, courtesy of pdiggy. Match 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcv7nmyYNF4 Match 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJRTzkJ_Gs4 (Me with a positive K/D in a PC! :D) Match 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4PsL8DWKmI
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1098	Posted - 2014.12.14 23:36:00 - [8] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Big Burns wrote: I remember that fight and the two biggest contributors in that match. Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane kept the slayers on edge in the compound. And Ted Nugget trapped two imps in the pin under C. lol. Sat his tank on the ramp. I think there is footage of this on youtube somewhere. I feel like myself and Kono always get overlooked in these matches like we were in places 15 and 16 in all of these games. I don't like to comment our my guys' achievements but jeez lol Kono was a huge part of the second win. Probably would have won the third one if he was there. If anyone was 15/16 it was me and quickgloves!

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