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saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 700	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:39:00 - [1] - Quote I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 963	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:40:00 - [2] - Quote not sure how one loses all their darn isk in battles unless you're running a lot of proto stuff. Running in Militia all the way to Advanced gear has always been enough for me. Should Legion be on the ps4?
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3119	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:41:00 - [3] - Quote not sure if you are serious or trolling... Join channel: FW Kickstarter More people in = more FW matches
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1819	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:45:00 - [4] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game lol i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub lol it sucks i just hate being broke lol which logi cause i seem to do fine with standard min+CR+adv equipment (like 16-20k per load) or gal logi+BAR+advanced equipment (like 18-21k) so with average payout for some effort being like 200k thats 10 deaths you can get before you go into the red. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 700	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:46:00 - [5] - Quote shaman oga wrote: not sure if you are serious or trolling... kinda serious i can make a profit but it takes too long but i will be getting rid of my vehicles to see if that helps SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1819	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:46:00 - [6] - Quote shaman oga wrote: not sure if you are serious or trolling... running logi is more expencive then other suits by 2x and that dosnt help us at all because we have such low efp we gotta brick tank to get comparable ehp but as we all know bricking = slow as hell = easy to shoot = die easly = low isk efficiency [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC 66	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:49:00 - [7] - Quote Being broke sucks period *ScReWeD uP InC* *BPO's Link Inside*
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4737	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:51:00 - [8] - Quote Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. My advice to you, playa...
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 964	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:54:00 - [9] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. Ya he's either trolling or forgot how to survive in anything less than a proto suit just like all those that only run proto suits now. Should Legion be on the ps4?
Mejt0 Puff n Puffers 498	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:10:00 - [10] - Quote da GAND wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. Ya he's either trolling or forgot how to survive in anything less than a proto suit just like all those that only run proto suits now. Or maybe he no longer play with full proto squad that can save his a$$ :). Either this or as above. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.

Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3104	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:12:00 - [11] - Quote gid guud? EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1820	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:13:00 - [12] - Quote da GAND wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. Ya he's either trolling or forgot how to survive in anything less than a proto suit just like all those that only run proto suits now. other way around for me, i run std most of the time but when i hop into a proto it feels like godmode and soem matches i dont die but i dont make as much isk/sp as i would if i was being more risky/stupid [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 1	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:24:00 - [13] - Quote I play Dust 514, because the economy of the game... All of us, are MERCENARIES, so we fight for money, but if you need invest more ISK in your fits that ISK Paid as reward ... you are a BAD PLAYER. Many Aurum-proto fits are more OP that a ISK fit... (CCP bussines). but you can run a cheap-funtional fit, make some millions and run Proto fits only in BC's BPO APEX-SERIES will be the solution for brocken wallets in Dust.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18987	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:36:00 - [14] - Quote You permarun proto, though...? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 655	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:51:00 - [15] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke TTK has sped up a lot recently, partly from guns getting buffed, partly from the improved frame rate, and all the kills scouts have added to the game since 1.8 has never been accounted for. Rattati needs to look at the numbers because it's nigh impossible without having a good thing going in PC (too much trouble!) to make a profit. That smacks of faulty design to me and needs to be looked at.
Ku Shala The Generals 1012	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:46:00 - [16] - Quote isk payout for people ranking under top three need to be increased dramatically, think of the newberries! die 10 + times a match to make under 100k isk minimum payout for participating in a full match should be 100k no matter if you rank 1st or 16th back to simple clone math 150 clones (basic suit cost 5-20k isk advanced35- 100k+ proto $$$) so go max per tier basic suits in domination or skirmish 150 x 20 000 (isk/suit) = 3 000 000 (high cost for 150 clones to enter battle) / 16(players/match) 187 500 per player average if cloned. advanced suits in domination or skirmish 150x 100 000 (isk per suit) = 15 000 000 (high cost for 150 clones to enter battle) / 16 (players/match) 937500 per player average if cloned. look at those numbers does anyone get anywhere near those payouts no, should they no, but you should be able to profit in 16th place running advanced gear. the profit should be minimal but the cost of clones per player should be a base start for the payout to the team.(esspecially for the victor) more clones left at the end of battle more profit for the whole team. isk payout is bs why come to a fight for less than 100 k my time is worth that crunch some numbers and find the average cost of an advanced suit with advanced modules and use that average against 150 clones and come up with a better base payout when entering a match thank-you *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist *Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2130	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:50:00 - [17] - Quote I am rather surprised you're broke, Saxon, but perhaps running something other than proto suits and proto weapons is in your future. Makes it a bit harder to have 30+, 40+ or 50+ kill games, but you'll certainly make more ISK. Personally, I have two cheap fits I run when I'm running a bit low on funds -- a dual ScP advanced cal scout, and a BPO Dren Heavy w/advanced HMG. Both are very isk-efficient (around 30k), still let me get plenty of kills, and are loads of fun to play.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4556	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:59:00 - [18] - Quote Nvm can't link Fergie- Glamorous on my phone (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1704	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:04:00 - [19] - Quote da GAND wrote: not sure how one loses all their darn isk in battles unless you're running a lot of proto stuff. Running in Militia all the way to Advanced gear has always been enough for me. It's called being the only mother jammer on your team trying to win. Running below adv in that situation mostly means you're just making your teams clone count go down faster. Sure you could still make a profit running free suits but all you're doing is making your team lose faster trying to take on over half the enemy team by yourself every time you spawn in; it's like breaking your leg with a sledge hammer, that sh!t just ain't fun. I'm surprised Maynard hasn't been assassinated yet. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 362	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:16:00 - [20] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I then i notice my team are really sucky Troll confirmed. I don't pretend to know whether or not you always run a certain fit, never squaded with you so i can't speculate. But i can at least put togehter your not dumb enough to whine about a ''suky team'' Bt you can try running a 200 k + All Proto Minamatar Logi and tell me how much profit you make each match if you think its easy mode. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.

Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 844	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:19:00 - [21] - Quote It's much more gratifying to dominate those proto-scrubs in a STD suit anyway. Go Go Go.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 724	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:20:00 - [22] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I am rather surprised you're broke, Saxon, but perhaps running something other than proto suits and proto weapons is in your future. Makes it a bit harder to have 30+, 40+ or 50+ kill games, but you'll certainly make more ISK. Personally, I have two cheap fits I run when I'm running a bit low on funds -- a dual ScP advanced cal scout, and a BPO Dren Heavy w/advanced HMG. Both are very isk-efficient (around 30k), still let me get plenty of kills, and are loads of fun to play. I have a fully blueprint logi suit, I can run 3 of 4 matches in it and be fine. Problem is, then if I pull out the proto, or even some adv scout/commando, all that isk is gone. The proto can wipe out 4 or 5 matches worth of isk in 3 deaths. Logis, in general, get shafted. We're slow, low ehp, and our role bonuses aren't that great (imo). I understand my role (Ive been playing it for 2+ years) but come on, 286K for a proto logi? And I might get 300K in a match? One loss and I'm even, 2 and I'm deep in the red. I might as well fly an DS, costs less and I have better survivability. If I get someone in the door, I can kill better too.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 615	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:37:00 - [23] - Quote I have multiple cheaper variations of my fit which I use based on how the match is going. First, I limit myself to 200K (the standard payout). I never start a match wearing Proto. Normally, I'll first deploy in a 50K-ish ADV fit. I'll use this fit (or a fit of similar value) up to about my third death, after which I will use a 25K fit. If I'm getting totally stomped and going 8+ deaths, I'll either not deploy, or just use a starter fit. I only really like using Proto if I know we're gonna win, and I'm unlikely to die. Using this method, I pretty much never go ISK-negative. I'm currently sitting on approx 140 mil, after restocking all my fits to 200. ISK is easy, SP is the tricky thing! Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I survived 1.8! Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Ku Shala The Generals 1013	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:51:00 - [24] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: saxonmish wrote: I then i notice my team are really sucky Troll confirmed. I don't pretend to know whether or not you always run a certain fit, never squaded with you so i can't speculate. But i can at least put togehter your not dumb enough to whine about a ''suky team'' Bt you can try running a 200 k + All Proto Minamatar Logi and tell me how much profit you make each match if you think its easy mode. 4 vs 8+ really starts sucking with this new matchmaking you can go against the same team over and over and because your small squad has high sp you go against 2 squads and have 12 BB running around aimlessly, while you keep getting ambushed while the whole enemy team watches your every move. *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist *Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
Aria Gomes Wirykomi Wolf Pack 677	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:55:00 - [25] - Quote Running proto will destroy your isk wallet, ADV will keep you fighting for the next paycheck, and basic will help you ge money quick. During the sidearm event I got a million isk from a basic Min Scout with mlt knives and mlt bolt pistol. Everything else was complex. Tumblr
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2142	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:59:00 - [26] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: I am rather surprised you're broke, Saxon, but perhaps running something other than proto suits and proto weapons is in your future. Makes it a bit harder to have 30+, 40+ or 50+ kill games, but you'll certainly make more ISK. Personally, I have two cheap fits I run when I'm running a bit low on funds -- a dual ScP advanced cal scout, and a BPO Dren Heavy w/advanced HMG. Both are very isk-efficient (around 30k), still let me get plenty of kills, and are loads of fun to play. I have a fully blueprint logi suit, I can run 3 of 4 matches in it and be fine. Problem is, then if I pull out the proto, or even some adv scout/commando, all that isk is gone. The proto can wipe out 4 or 5 matches worth of isk in 3 deaths. Logis, in general, get shafted. We're slow, low ehp, and our role bonuses aren't that great (imo). I understand my role (Ive been playing it for 2+ years) but come on, 286K for a proto logi? And I might get 300K in a match? One loss and I'm even, 2 and I'm deep in the red. I might as well fly an DS, costs less and I have better survivability. If I get someone in the door, I can kill better too. I agree, logis are the toughest of the roles to make money on at proto level due to the increases costs. TBH, the only time I run them now is in PC or if our squad is really hurting for one. Proto logis are also, however, WP machines -- and this is also true in the case of standard and advanced versions. I think the fix is to increase payouts for people towards the top end of the board, and stop rewarding as much ISK for people at the bottom. This would also, hopefully, reward people actually trying in the game rather than just redline sniping (and other low risk activities) to avoid ISK losses.
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1372	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:00:00 - [27] - Quote Sorry, Sax, but I'm gonna have to go with the ones saying you're trolling. The way you play, I just can't see you going Isk negative unless you continued to run full proto. I can't even call myself a slayer, but the only way I can go negative in a match is if I'm screwing around (AKA: Having fun punching everyone) or trying to enact a vendetta on a tank or rooftop camper. You should have billions with your KD/R. I want to punch.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2142	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:01:00 - [28] - Quote I don't think he is trolling. First off, it's not his style. Second, even with a proto KDR of 6, when you're getting 20 or 30 or more kills per match, your losses overcome your winnings. It's really not a stretch....
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 414	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:08:00 - [29] - Quote Watches a saxomish video. Reads saxomish thread title. Watches another saxomish video. "There's fuckery afoot" Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader Hi
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 708	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:14:00 - [30] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Watches a saxomish video. Reads saxomish thread title. Watches another saxomish video. "There's fuckery afoot" watch my video's and watch my wallet fluctuate SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)

Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 98	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:18:00 - [31] - Quote The Risk/Reward paradigm is very similar to Eve and designed to encourage a similar investment plan. Without getting into too much granularity, consider: rock (tank) - paper (ewar) - scissors (firepower). Basic: Pick 1 advantage - 10k+/suits Advanced: Pick 2 advantages - 40k+/suits Prototype: Pick 3 advantages - 120k+/suits You pay to carry the variety, even if you don't get to use it. By increasing the payout you affect 2 key gameplay issues: people should protect the suits they wear (benefits strategy and meaningful play) and increase the chance of the runaway-victor. Both hurt the game in the long term. I run a basic scout almost exclusively, and every time I assassinate a squad leader wearing prototype gear... I know that I have tipped the balance of power substantially, and probably cost that player the profit of their entire match. That meaningful interaction is the reason that thoughtful people play, and invest, in this game. I too want to run more prototype, but proto-saturation removes consequences from the ecosystem; and that is worthy of heavy consideration before any decisions are made. -daj See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
The SONNET The Rainbow Effect 4	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:21:00 - [32] - Quote I agree, I'm almost homeless in real life I'm that low on Isk. (rarely use proto)
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1706	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:22:00 - [33] - Quote Another comment I want to make in regards to ISK is that with the "team balancing" They've done I've noticed less of a gap between a teams top WP earners and the rest of the team which ultimately results in lower payouts. Thus those that don't have a large stockpile of ISK already, run out faster when they're trying to win. saxonmish wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Watches a saxomish video. Reads saxomish thread title. Watches another saxomish video. "There's fuckery afoot" watch my video's and watch my wallet fluctuate I just realized that the only video of yours I've actually watched (or can recall watching) was the ScR one you posted the other day. I'm surprised Maynard hasn't been assassinated yet. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1706	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:26:00 - [34] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: The Risk/Reward paradigm is very similar to Eve and designed to encourage a similar investment plan. Without getting into too much granularity, consider: rock (tank) - paper (ewar) - scissors (firepower). Basic: Pick 1 advantage - 10k+/suits Advanced: Pick 2 advantages - 40k+/suits Prototype: Pick 3 advantages - 120k+/suits You pay to carry the variety, even if you don't get to use it. By increasing the payout you affect 2 key gameplay issues: people should protect the suits they wear (benefits strategy and meaningful play) and increase the chance of the runaway-victor. Both hurt the game in the long term. I run a basic scout almost exclusively, and every time I assassinate a squad leader wearing prototype gear... I know that I have tipped the balance of power substantially, and probably cost that player the profit of their entire match. That meaningful interaction is the reason that thoughtful people play, and invest, in this game. I too want to run more prototype, but proto-saturation removes consequences from the ecosystem; and that is worthy of heavy consideration before any decisions are made. -daj Your comment would work if there wasn't a game mode that was used to print billions of ISK for a year. I'm surprised Maynard hasn't been assassinated yet. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 173	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:28:00 - [35] - Quote I personally find it difficult to stay ISK positive running ADV 24/7. Like, I only make a profit if the battle is in my favor. Dying 4-6 times puts me right next to the red, depending on how much I accomplished. I know what the deal is, "don't use what you don't want to lose". But I have a hard time being effective in STD gear, especially when I'm carrying the team. (Which happens a little too often) Verdict: Playing solo is difficult for being profitable. Lots of veterans are sitting on mountains of ISK simply because they always have someone competent watching their back and reducing losses. I suppose I should find a decent corp. Always Assault, even through the dark days [33.3m SP - Next skill: Combat Rifle Sharpshooter 4]
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3106	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:30:00 - [36] - Quote Pro Tip 1: BPO suit. Pro Tip 2: Std weapon with proficiency Pro Tip 3: Complex modules. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
cronopio feju corporacion alfa 18	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:33:00 - [37] - Quote My secret: drop uplinks at the begining, If the're gone, drope some again, don't go full logi, just add a nanoinyector, or a repair tool to your scout; do some teamwork, this Hotfix is made for logi's but, you do'nt need to be a logi, stop the slayery, just try to win by CMM not by clones... And... buy a veteran/elite pack: lots and lots of free - isk stuff By the way I am starting a head hunter campaing, If we find a proto suit with proto waepon's, I give some isk to the member of my squad who take him down. Todos aclamen al Rey Carmesí https://dust514.com/recruit/u2WwaR/
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 516	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:37:00 - [38] - Quote Im broke too, **** std stuff.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 725	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:39:00 - [39] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: RayRay James wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: I am rather surprised you're broke, Saxon, but perhaps running something other than proto suits and proto weapons is in your future. Makes it a bit harder to have 30+, 40+ or 50+ kill games, but you'll certainly make more ISK. Personally, I have two cheap fits I run when I'm running a bit low on funds -- a dual ScP advanced cal scout, and a BPO Dren Heavy w/advanced HMG. Both are very isk-efficient (around 30k), still let me get plenty of kills, and are loads of fun to play. I have a fully blueprint logi suit, I can run 3 of 4 matches in it and be fine. Problem is, then if I pull out the proto, or even some adv scout/commando, all that isk is gone. The proto can wipe out 4 or 5 matches worth of isk in 3 deaths. Logis, in general, get shafted. We're slow, low ehp, and our role bonuses aren't that great (imo). I understand my role (Ive been playing it for 2+ years) but come on, 286K for a proto logi? And I might get 300K in a match? One loss and I'm even, 2 and I'm deep in the red. I might as well fly an DS, costs less and I have better survivability. If I get someone in the door, I can kill better too. I agree, logis are the toughest of the roles to make money on at proto level due to the increases costs. TBH, the only time I run them now is in PC or if our squad is really hurting for one. Proto logis are also, however, WP machines -- and this is also true in the case of standard and advanced versions. I think the fix is to increase payouts for people towards the top end of the board, and stop rewarding as much ISK for people at the bottom. This would also, hopefully, reward people actually trying in the game rather than just redline sniping (and other low risk activities) to avoid ISK losses. We did take a bit of a nerf to WP with the needle changes. If I'm running solo, those people that I could successfully pick up before now don't know I'm actually not a scrub and won't hit the revive button. I understand (somewhat) the need for the change, but still. As for being a WP Machine, If that translated into a higher isk payout, I'd be all for it. However, in most cases now, I can get a higher return on investment as a adv scout set for hacking and coming in third than I can as a proto logi coming in first. Personally, I don't think that's right.
BlazeXYZ G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 309	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:41:00 - [40] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke You run the most expensive fits and here your complaining. Personally, I do equally well when I run adv. or proto, So run adv gear next time. The Blazing Intellect Machine

Mex-0 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:49:00 - [41] - Quote I run a Scout M/1-series. -2x Enhanced shield extenders -Advanced precision mod -RS-90 Combat Rifle -Ishukone Nova Knives -Basic profile dampener -Complex profile dampener -Flux Grenade -ARN-18 Cloak Field It isn't that expensive, and it's massive fun. I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.
The Eristic Dust 90210 657	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:56:00 - [42] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game Dude, what? I run basic with a couple enhanced mods 99% of the time and it's easy to make 150k+ profit a match, regardless of outcome and my score. With your skill, you should be banking like crazy. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Mex-0 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:58:00 - [43] - Quote The Eristic wrote: saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game Dude, what? I run basic with a couple enhanced mods 99% of the time and it's easy to make 150k+ profit a match, regardless of outcome and my score. With your skill, you should be banking like crazy. 150k isn't that much. I usually make 400,000 per domination, and I still can't afford proto. I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3462	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:03:00 - [44] - Quote You could trade me one of those officer ScP's for 50 million ISK Fatal Absolution Director
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries 678	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:07:00 - [45] - Quote hmm I make profit using only my templar suits (and advanced amarr scout [give me templar scout ccp!!!]), granted I run complex mods and proto equipment in them but I still make profit.
Iron Toast Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:17:00 - [46] - Quote Collect donations for your videos (which I really like by the way)? There were some epic battles when the payouts were bugged to allow people to run proto all the time. I have a couple of 5k isk or less suits that work OK for making isk. I usually run solo, so I haven't really tried the logi thing. I'd expect a rep tool on a precision scout following a hmg might work in some places. The militia cal heavy has a fast regen time, but is slow. Pairing with a std version of a weapon you're skilled into can work. Also swarms with light dmg mods can get good WP blasting vehicles near the edge of battles, just don't worry about destroying them. You get more wp if they come back. There are a couple of rail turrets that are near the redline but have good view for shooting down the drop ships headed to the roof. The rail turrets overlooking the bridge also are good for killing vehicles. A militia light or std scout suit running precision can pick off poorly damped cloakers, but watch for the assault trolls (ttk on std weapons is longer) and fully dampened scouts. Militia shotgun is actually effective and cheap. Place uplinks, particularly if you're the only one. It can help put the blueberries where you want them too. I expect with your mu you probably have a stacked fight against you many times. You could try squadding with newer low mu players to see if you get easier fights. You may have to let someone else carry the fight when running cheap gear, depends a bit on how much you care about winning and kdr versus making isk. I'm just starting to come up to even (sometimes) on my kdr, but always go isk positive and always have fun!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2147	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:24:00 - [47] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: RayRay James wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: I am rather surprised you're broke, Saxon, but perhaps running something other than proto suits and proto weapons is in your future. Makes it a bit harder to have 30+, 40+ or 50+ kill games, but you'll certainly make more ISK. Personally, I have two cheap fits I run when I'm running a bit low on funds -- a dual ScP advanced cal scout, and a BPO Dren Heavy w/advanced HMG. Both are very isk-efficient (around 30k), still let me get plenty of kills, and are loads of fun to play. I have a fully blueprint logi suit, I can run 3 of 4 matches in it and be fine. Problem is, then if I pull out the proto, or even some adv scout/commando, all that isk is gone. The proto can wipe out 4 or 5 matches worth of isk in 3 deaths. Logis, in general, get shafted. We're slow, low ehp, and our role bonuses aren't that great (imo). I understand my role (Ive been playing it for 2+ years) but come on, 286K for a proto logi? And I might get 300K in a match? One loss and I'm even, 2 and I'm deep in the red. I might as well fly an DS, costs less and I have better survivability. If I get someone in the door, I can kill better too. I agree, logis are the toughest of the roles to make money on at proto level due to the increases costs. TBH, the only time I run them now is in PC or if our squad is really hurting for one. Proto logis are also, however, WP machines -- and this is also true in the case of standard and advanced versions. I think the fix is to increase payouts for people towards the top end of the board, and stop rewarding as much ISK for people at the bottom. This would also, hopefully, reward people actually trying in the game rather than just redline sniping (and other low risk activities) to avoid ISK losses. We did take a bit of a nerf to WP with the needle changes. If I'm running solo, those people that I could successfully pick up before now don't know I'm actually not a scrub and won't hit the revive button. I understand (somewhat) the need for the change, but still. As for being a WP Machine, If that translated into a higher isk payout, I'd be all for it. However, in most cases now, I can get a higher return on investment as a adv scout set for hacking and coming in third than I can as a proto logi coming in first. Personally, I don't think that's right. That's essentially what I'm saying -- that we increase payouts with higher WP players getting more of a share. While I'm not sure I disagree about it being fair, I will point out that the weakness in ISK effectiveness is balanced with an increase in SP which makes the weekly grind take far less time -- so it's not without benefit. The underlying point -- we need to incentivize people trying rather than ISK farming. We should REWARD behaviors that lead towards exciting gameplay. Otherwise we bolster the reasons to redline snipe, AFK farm, or just not really try to win. Because, TBH, I think someone like Saxon who goes proto and pulls a 50-4 round should actually make ISK and the redline sniper who went 2:1 with 100wp should break even. SP is another story, but ISK payouts as they stand today, IMO, reinforce bad in-game behavior. That said, this clone brings up a superb point and we need to be wary of overly reducing consequences and as a result breaking the game: Mahal Daj wrote: The Risk/Reward paradigm is very similar to Eve and designed to encourage a similar investment plan. Without getting into too much granularity, consider: rock (tank) - paper (ewar) - scissors (firepower). Basic: Pick 1 advantage - 10k+/suits Advanced: Pick 2 advantages - 40k+/suits Prototype: Pick 3 advantages - 120k+/suits You pay to carry the variety, even if you don't get to use it. By increasing the payout you affect 2 key gameplay issues: people should protect the suits they wear (benefits strategy and meaningful play) and increase the chance of the runaway-victor. Both hurt the game in the long term. I run a basic scout almost exclusively, and every time I assassinate a squad leader wearing prototype gear... I know that I have tipped the balance of power substantially, and probably cost that player the profit of their entire match. That meaningful interaction is the reason that thoughtful people play, and invest, in this game. I too want to run more prototype, but proto-saturation removes consequences from the ecosystem; and that is worthy of heavy consideration before any decisions are made. -daj
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 125	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:24:00 - [48] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. Idk mang, I'm awful at dust too, and I start losing money as soon as I step our of my militia suits.
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 871	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:33:00 - [49] - Quote i think a isk payout needs to be raised a little. not making all that much..infact i seem to be losing a little isk every match each time i play. Clone117:MLT specialist. Translation:dont mess with me or you lose... what ever it is you had on you at the time.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 445	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:02:00 - [50] - Quote You wanna be rich in this game? You have to play a role that has less risk, and have a ton of patience. Tanking rail dancing in and out of the redline, sniping, or simply go afk in ambush?! Yeah it sucks, and you can't actually care about winning battles, but you get paid. You could also make bs corps repeatedly, and runoff with the tax isk.... but that's pretty shady?! You actually care about winning battles like me so you put good effort forth to do so. Meaning you get kills, get killed, and push the objectives. The way payouts work you won't make any money. They don't vary enough. The sniper with three kills makes almost the same as the assault with 20. The assault will break even, and the sniper makes about 150k after cost. It definitely needs to be looked at because currently running proto is economic suicide?! "Anybody order chaos?"

da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 969	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:48:00 - [51] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: da GAND wrote: not sure how one loses all their darn isk in battles unless you're running a lot of proto stuff. Running in Militia all the way to Advanced gear has always been enough for me. It's called being the only mother jammer on your team trying to win. Running below adv in that situation mostly means you're just making your teams clone count go down faster. Sure you could still make a profit running free suits but all you're doing is making your team lose faster trying to take on over half the enemy team by yourself every time you spawn in; it's like breaking your leg with a sledge hammer, that sh!t just ain't fun. Right because you can only accomplish things in a match if you're wearing proto gear..... Should Legion be on the ps4?
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1706	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:58:00 - [52] - Quote da GAND wrote: Thumb Green wrote: da GAND wrote: not sure how one loses all their darn isk in battles unless you're running a lot of proto stuff. Running in Militia all the way to Advanced gear has always been enough for me. It's called being the only mother jammer on your team trying to win. Running below adv in that situation mostly means you're just making your teams clone count go down faster. Sure you could still make a profit running free suits but all you're doing is making your team lose faster trying to take on over half the enemy team by yourself every time you spawn in; it's like breaking your leg with a sledge hammer, that sh!t just ain't fun. Right because you can only accomplish things in a match if you're wearing proto gear..... Didn't say that now did I? Trying to win in a situation like that rarely involves 1v1 encounters and you aren't going to accomplish sh!t in less than adv gear unless you're hacking undefended or lightly defended objective, but that's not trying to win, that just farming WP's for a better payout. I'm surprised Maynard hasn't been assassinated yet. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 157	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:23:00 - [53] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke Bahahahahaha that's what you get for being a proto scrub. I like my 230 mil.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 157	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:24:00 - [54] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: You wanna be rich in this game? You have to play a role that has less risk, and have a ton of patience. Tanking rail dancing in and out of the redline, sniping, or simply go afk in ambush?! Yeah it sucks, and you can't actually care about winning battles, but you get paid. You could also make bs corps repeatedly, and runoff with the tax isk.... but that's pretty shady?! You actually care about winning battles like me so you put good effort forth to do so. Meaning you get kills, get killed, and push the objectives. The way payouts work you won't make any money. They don't vary enough. The sniper with three kills makes almost the same as the assault with 20. The assault will break even, and the sniper makes about 150k after cost. It definitely needs to be looked at because currently running proto is economic suicide?! Proto was never meant to be sustainable in pub.
medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1085	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:26:00 - [55] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke I recall you proto stomping me and then praying that you didn't upload that match to youtube. You're OP. You being broke makes the game balanced. How to balance cloaks.
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 711	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:47:00 - [56] - Quote maluble wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: You wanna be rich in this game? You have to play a role that has less risk, and have a ton of patience. Tanking rail dancing in and out of the redline, sniping, or simply go afk in ambush?! Yeah it sucks, and you can't actually care about winning battles, but you get paid. You could also make bs corps repeatedly, and runoff with the tax isk.... but that's pretty shady?! You actually care about winning battles like me so you put good effort forth to do so. Meaning you get kills, get killed, and push the objectives. The way payouts work you won't make any money. They don't vary enough. The sniper with three kills makes almost the same as the assault with 20. The assault will break even, and the sniper makes about 150k after cost. It definitely needs to be looked at because currently running proto is economic suicide?! Proto was never meant to be sustainable in pub. but like 90% of the playerbase play mostly pubs so why shouldnt it be sustainable? SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14508	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:50:00 - [57] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke But you are a saxon on a mish.... just pillage some more viking fishing villages and take their plunder and women away back to England with you! "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 712	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:02:00 - [58] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: You could trade me one of those officer ScP's for 50 million ISK ok :) SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 619	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:12:00 - [59] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: The Eristic wrote: saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game Dude, what? I run basic with a couple enhanced mods 99% of the time and it's easy to make 150k+ profit a match, regardless of outcome and my score. With your skill, you should be banking like crazy. 150k isn't that much. I usually make 400,000 per domination, and I still can't afford proto. He said 150K PROFIT. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I survived 1.8! Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Mex-0 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 148	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:16:00 - [60] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Mex-0 wrote: The Eristic wrote: saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game Dude, what? I run basic with a couple enhanced mods 99% of the time and it's easy to make 150k+ profit a match, regardless of outcome and my score. With your skill, you should be banking like crazy. 150k isn't that much. I usually make 400,000 per domination, and I still can't afford proto. He said 150K PROFIT. I do make 400,000 ISK profit. Start of the match, I have 30 copies of my favorite fitting. By the end, I have around 25-27. I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.

Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 619	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:21:00 - [61] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: You could also make bs corps repeatedly, and runoff with the tax isk.... but that's pretty shady?! Uh oh... I may have just been scammed... Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I survived 1.8! Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 619	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:23:00 - [62] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: It definitely needs to be looked at because currently running proto is economic suicide?! Good, it should be! Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I survived 1.8! Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 713	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:25:00 - [63] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: You could also make bs corps repeatedly, and runoff with the tax isk.... but that's pretty shady?! Uh oh... I may have just been scammed... No im not like that. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 619	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:26:00 - [64] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Mex-0 wrote: The Eristic wrote: saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game Dude, what? I run basic with a couple enhanced mods 99% of the time and it's easy to make 150k+ profit a match, regardless of outcome and my score. With your skill, you should be banking like crazy. 150k isn't that much. I usually make 400,000 per domination, and I still can't afford proto. He said 150K PROFIT. I do make 400,000 ISK profit. Start of the match, I have 30 copies of my favorite fitting. By the end, I have around 25-27. And what is your favourite fitting??? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I survived 1.8! Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 159	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:44:00 - [65] - Quote saxonmish wrote: maluble wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: You wanna be rich in this game? You have to play a role that has less risk, and have a ton of patience. Tanking rail dancing in and out of the redline, sniping, or simply go afk in ambush?! Yeah it sucks, and you can't actually care about winning battles, but you get paid. You could also make bs corps repeatedly, and runoff with the tax isk.... but that's pretty shady?! You actually care about winning battles like me so you put good effort forth to do so. Meaning you get kills, get killed, and push the objectives. The way payouts work you won't make any money. They don't vary enough. The sniper with three kills makes almost the same as the assault with 20. The assault will break even, and the sniper makes about 150k after cost. It definitely needs to be looked at because currently running proto is economic suicide?! Proto was never meant to be sustainable in pub. but like 90% of the playerbase play mostly pubs so why shouldnt it be sustainable? Because 60% don't have the sp for proto.
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 793	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:03:00 - [66] - Quote i run mainly full bpo set up's aside from my hmg and flux nades. almost pure profit every match bwhahaha. sure sometimes ill chuck out the odd proto suit for the hell of it. and i spend a fair bit on my lav's. it is so much fun blapping proto's in my peasent set up.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1280	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:11:00 - [67] - Quote Apex BPO is hopefully going to be my ISK maker. On this alt. 95% of the time I run free suits, but it isn't really fair to my team. I'll get the BPO and it should be quite a bit better. I have 50 million ISK on my main but I hate going negative over the course of a night and lately it has been hard not to. Because, that's why.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1280	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:15:00 - [68] - Quote I haven't been seeing 400,000 payouts since 1.9. Last night I killed 3 Pythons (really bad pilot), 3 tanks a couple of LAV's and dropped uplinks in a game, had 3X as much WP as the #2 guy on our team. I was expecting a juicy payout and it was like 250K. Because, that's why.
Zindorak Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:20:00 - [69] - Quote We need higher sp gain and isk payouts Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Lets Get Weirdo Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:42:00 - [70] - Quote I wish the isk payouts were increased for sure

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17083	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:47:00 - [71] - Quote Grab a CZ and only one smoke and just try your best buddy! ECO ROUNDZ! "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 193	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:58:00 - [72] - Quote Lol, scrub.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2017	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:59:00 - [73] - Quote I run melee only fits and still profit... Problem? Don't expect to run proto 100% Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 169	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:10:00 - [74] - Quote Just made 546,000 isk and 15,000 sp. I lost 200,000 isk that match. That's more sp and isk then usual. No boosters. The game knows when you run crap gear and pays accordingly.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1966	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:13:00 - [75] - Quote saxonmish wrote: shaman oga wrote: not sure if you are serious or trolling... kinda serious i can make a profit but it takes too long but i will be getting rid of my vehicles to see if that helps It does but it feels like Punkin out Who wants some?
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2017	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:15:00 - [76] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: Just made 546,000 isk and 15,000 sp. I lost 200,000 isk that match. That's more sp and isk then usual. No boosters. The game knows when you run crap gear and pays accordingly. Bullshit... I ran melee Minja, got 15 kills and some deaths, hacked a bunch of ***, and got 138,000... Official QuafeGäó Advocate* Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 280	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:17:00 - [77] - Quote da GAND wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. Ya he's either trolling or forgot how to survive in anything less than a proto suit just like all those that only run proto suits now. Wrong most people get stomped by my standard load outs ..i drop 20 bombs no problem in stnd amar assault with stnd lr Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Protected Void Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 385	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:34:00 - [78] - Quote I don't get it. I run mostly advanced suits, advanced+std weapons, complex modules and equipment as CPU and PG allows. Also, mostly very low HP scout suits that die in an instant. I'm not even skilled into armor plates and only up to ADV level in shield extenders. I can die 5 times a game, which I think is more times than I average, and still generally turn a small profit. Add in the daily mission ISK, and I usually see my wallet increase a million or two each time I play for two and a half hours or more.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6106	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:36:00 - [79] - Quote Zindorak wrote: We need higher sp gain and isk payouts Wish Granted. I get 11-14k SP per match now.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3209	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:57:00 - [80] - Quote I'm a terrible player and I make a profit just fine even with my HAV/Proto addiciton (I drive boom maddies and run proto calscouts with PLCs). I'd suggest finding a playstyle that reaps in rewards for low risk, for me a basic CalAss with ADV RR usually rakes in the money, as it can usually whittle people down at range and duck to cover easily, then again I mainly play Skirmish with a side of Dom, so your mileage may vary substantially with different gamemodes. Stop dying and being so scrubby! "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire

TritusX PH4NT0M5 253	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:16:00 - [81] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: thehellisgoingon wrote: Just made 546,000 isk and 15,000 sp. I lost 200,000 isk that match. That's more sp and isk then usual. No boosters. The game knows when you run crap gear and pays accordingly. Bullshit... I ran melee Minja, got 15 kills and some deaths, hacked a bunch of ****, and got 138,000... Thats because we were at the bottom of the list I suck crap at this game. I run bullshit 10k M-1 Scout fittings and die 20 times lol I just want to get to a point where I can run solid ADV Forced Death
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 661	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:19:00 - [82] - Quote Really its hard to make ISK by running cheap suits = -_-.... My Templar heavy has a normal HMG, Toxin BPO, 3 Militia BPO Armor and Flux grenade = Total of around 2,000 isk. Now I have 80 million ISK = I'm willing to give away a minimum of 1 million ISK but I'm saving the rest for the New Vehicles and Logi Dropship :D MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 445	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:21:00 - [83] - Quote Warbarge maybe? Gotta make a choice. Either be leet kdr leaderboard tryhard or make isk. Run DS for something other than to just crash land on a roof to run commando and run it to mCRU then pop links for points. Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2025	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:27:00 - [84] - Quote TritusX wrote: LUGMOS wrote: thehellisgoingon wrote: Just made 546,000 isk and 15,000 sp. I lost 200,000 isk that match. That's more sp and isk then usual. No boosters. The game knows when you run crap gear and pays accordingly. Bullshit... I ran melee Minja, got 15 kills and some deaths, hacked a bunch of ***, and got 138,000... Thats because we were at the bottom of the list I suck crap at this game. I run bullshit 10k M-1 Scout fittings and die 20 times lol I just want to get to a point where I can run solid ADV Actually ended up about 5th with a bit over 1000 WP. Granted, the guy on top had 1,800, but come on! 138,000 fukin ISK! Not even enough to wipe my butt with... Official QuafeGäó Advocate* Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1008	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:30:00 - [85] - Quote i see alot of people saying that they run their Bpo' or templar gear but i dont spend RL money, also i run standard gear all day then come across a proto squad and have to combat that with proto and then lose all the profit i made by running basic all day its abit rediculous. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2025	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:31:00 - [86] - Quote saxonmish wrote: i see alot of people saying that they run their Bpo' or templar gear but i dont spend RL money, also i run standard gear all day then come across a proto squad and have to combat that with proto and then lose all the profit i made by running basic all day its abit rediculous. Looool. You don't need Proto to counter proto if you're legit, or smart. It's a surefire way to burn ISK. The real counter to proto stomper is your own team (or RE's and PLC) Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1008	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:32:00 - [87] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: i see alot of people saying that they run their Bpo' or templar gear but i dont spend RL money, also i run standard gear all day then come across a proto squad and have to combat that with proto and then lose all the profit i made by running basic all day its abit rediculous. Looool. You don't need Proto to counter proto if you're legit, or smart. It's a surefire way to burn ISK. The real counter to proto stomper is your own team (or RE's and PLC) looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool you're an idiot. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2026	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:40:00 - [88] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: i see alot of people saying that they run their Bpo' or templar gear but i dont spend RL money, also i run standard gear all day then come across a proto squad and have to combat that with proto and then lose all the profit i made by running basic all day its abit rediculous. Looool. You don't need Proto to counter proto if you're legit, or smart. It's a surefire way to burn ISK. The real counter to proto stomper is your own team (or RE's and PLC) looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool you're an idiot. If you say so... Just saying it how it is. Saay... You weren't the 1 dislike on my video were you? Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1744	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:40:00 - [89] - Quote We all know you are lying, you don't know anything other than Proto FROTM stuff. Get gud with STD? Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
datswag tho Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:44:00 - [90] - Quote 1) Get good; 2) Get in a good PC team; 3) Play PC's and play for the win; Profit.

saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1009	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:45:00 - [91] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: We all know you are lying, you don't know anything other than Proto FROTM stuff. Get gud with STD? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SAXONONAMISH/posts/86hdNZ3Jyic?pid=6099014264767510850&oid=117663715927364456206 been there, done that, got bored of it. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1009	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:47:00 - [92] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: i see alot of people saying that they run their Bpo' or templar gear but i dont spend RL money, also i run standard gear all day then come across a proto squad and have to combat that with proto and then lose all the profit i made by running basic all day its abit rediculous. Looool. You don't need Proto to counter proto if you're legit, or smart. It's a surefire way to burn ISK. The real counter to proto stomper is your own team (or RE's and PLC) looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool you're an idiot. If you say so... Just saying it how it is. Saay... You weren't the 1 dislike on my video were you? tbh i didnt know you did video's.... my bad SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1744	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:47:00 - [93] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: We all know you are lying, you don't know anything other than Proto FROTM stuff. Get gud with STD? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SAXONONAMISH/posts/86hdNZ3Jyic?pid=6099014264767510850&oid=117663715927364456206 been there, done that, got bored of it. So you destroyed a bunch of militia players fresh out of the academy with a BPO suit... Probably since you didn't have the isk to destroy them with Proto. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2027	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:49:00 - [94] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: saxonmish wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: We all know you are lying, you don't know anything other than Proto FROTM stuff. Get gud with STD? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SAXONONAMISH/posts/86hdNZ3Jyic?pid=6099014264767510850&oid=117663715927364456206 been there, done that, got bored of it. So you destroyed a bunch of militia players fresh out of the academy with a BPO suit... Probably since you didn't have the isk to destroy them with Proto. Dat logi doh. Dat BPO doh. How do you have issues making ISK again? If you want payouts raised just ask directly... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1009	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:49:00 - [95] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: saxonmish wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: We all know you are lying, you don't know anything other than Proto FROTM stuff. Get gud with STD? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SAXONONAMISH/posts/86hdNZ3Jyic?pid=6099014264767510850&oid=117663715927364456206 been there, done that, got bored of it. So you destroyed a bunch of militia players fresh out of the academy with a BPO suit... Probably since you didn't have the isk to destroy them with Proto. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzGqTqIFce0 nope its just boring, whats the point in getting a proto suit if your never gonna use it. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2027	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:52:00 - [96] - Quote saxonmish wrote: nope its just boring, whats the point in getting a proto suit if your never gonna use it. You're not supposed to run it 24/7 That being said, don't be one of those scrubs who do. A lot of people really miss the old Chromosome escalation. Once someone brought out Proto, **** went down. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1009	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:53:00 - [97] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: saxonmish wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: We all know you are lying, you don't know anything other than Proto FROTM stuff. Get gud with STD? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SAXONONAMISH/posts/86hdNZ3Jyic?pid=6099014264767510850&oid=117663715927364456206 been there, done that, got bored of it. So you destroyed a bunch of militia players fresh out of the academy with a BPO suit... Probably since you didn't have the isk to destroy them with Proto. Dat logi doh. Dat BPO doh. How do you have issues making ISK again? If you want payouts raised just ask directly... i have too much stuff to play around with 6 pro suits 9 prof 5 wepons 2 pro large turrets tanks ads pro small turrets its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2027	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:56:00 - [98] - Quote saxonmish wrote: its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? So in real life, if you were to, oh I don't know, sell paintings that you created, would you use the best paint available or the best brushes, even if you knew doing so could very well make you broke? Now, it's not the same thing, I know, since it is a game. But it is the same moral point. Or if you were to eat at the fancy restaurants, even if you knew you could go broke, because (insert underlined idea here) Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1745	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:57:00 - [99] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: saxonmish wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: We all know you are lying, you don't know anything other than Proto FROTM stuff. Get gud with STD? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SAXONONAMISH/posts/86hdNZ3Jyic?pid=6099014264767510850&oid=117663715927364456206 been there, done that, got bored of it. So you destroyed a bunch of militia players fresh out of the academy with a BPO suit... Probably since you didn't have the isk to destroy them with Proto. Dat logi doh. Dat BPO doh. How do you have issues making ISK again? If you want payouts raised just ask directly... i have too much stuff to play around with 6 pro suits 9 prof 5 wepons 2 pro large turrets tanks ads pro small turrets its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? Stay poor then. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1009	Posted - 2015.02.11 00:59:00 - [100] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? So in real life, if you were to, oh I don't know, sell paintings that you created, would you use the best paint available or the best brushes, even if you knew doing so could very well make you broke? Now, it's not the same thing, I know, since it is a game. But it is the same moral point. yea i would, if i was going to do something like try and sell a painting i would put all my effort into it to ensure the best price. any other wierd questions? and you just said it, 'its a game' so why should we have to feel like we are at work while we play it by saving up money for good luxury items lol SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)

LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2029	Posted - 2015.02.11 01:02:00 - [101] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? So in real life, if you were to, oh I don't know, sell paintings that you created, would you use the best paint available or the best brushes, even if you knew doing so could very well make you broke? Now, it's not the same thing, I know, since it is a game. But it is the same moral point. yea i would, if i was going to do something like try and sell a painting i would put all my effort into it to ensure the best price. any other wierd questions? and you just said it, 'its a game' so why should we have to feel like we are at work while we play it by saving up money for good luxury items lol Meh, I guess... But then what would be the point for standard and advanced things Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17092	Posted - 2015.02.11 01:07:00 - [102] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? So in real life, if you were to, oh I don't know, sell paintings that you created, would you use the best paint available or the best brushes, even if you knew doing so could very well make you broke? Now, it's not the same thing, I know, since it is a game. But it is the same moral point. yea i would, if i was going to do something like try and sell a painting i would put all my effort into it to ensure the best price. any other wierd questions? and you just said it, 'its a game' so why should we have to feel like we are at work while we play it by saving up money for good luxury items lol Just play a couple of Eco Rounds every so often. Basically a round where you use you cheapest content options and rather than to win your goal is to tally up as much damage to your opponents economy as possible. One Protosuit for your Standard BPO is a major victory as long as you cost them their suit and weapons. ....basically Catmerc introduced my to CS:GO and the concept of the Eco Round is wonderful. You don't have to win, you don't even have to do well. But the knowledge that each kill/frag/whatever is doing damage to your opponents capacity to function in future rounds makes it worth it. Just apply those tenets to Dust. E.G- A Good Eco Round fit would be Laser Rifle Bolt Pistol Sleek Flux Grenades You can keep out of the meat grinder and inflict as much damage as possible on the enemy team without risking yourself. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1124	Posted - 2015.02.11 01:12:00 - [103] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: da GAND wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. Ya he's either trolling or forgot how to survive in anything less than a proto suit just like all those that only run proto suits now. Wrong most people get stomped by my standard load outs ..i drop 20 bombs no problem in stnd amar assault with stnd lr It's all about what you do in the battlefield at the right time and how you play. Advanced is/was (since I don't play anymore) my limit and what I mostly stuck to. I could hardly stomp since I always played in Minmatar Suits, even the heavy suits were pretty weak for being a heavy but I eventually adapted to the suit and learned how to use it sort of as a fast assault suit with an HMG with the help from some people from the forums. Can't believe this forum post got revived Should Legion be on the ps4?
demonkiller 12 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 609	Posted - 2015.02.11 01:27:00 - [104] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke i always see you spamming proto and tanks -_-
castba Rogue Instincts 756	Posted - 2015.02.11 05:11:00 - [105] - Quote Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2042	Posted - 2015.02.11 05:51:00 - [106] - Quote castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. Not sure I'm elite... Nah I'm not. But my PLC is pre-1337, still learning from senpai. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2015.02.11 06:01:00 - [107] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Wait... I can run std/adv fittings and turn a small profit every match. I can run 'Quafe'/std fittings and turn a large profit every match. Keep in mind, I suck at Dust 514. You are significantly more skilled than I am, and you... can't turn a profit? Either you are trolling us or you are asking for increased payouts so you never have to run anything non-proto. cough http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
bathtubist TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance 43	Posted - 2015.02.11 06:09:00 - [108] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke Amb stay behind heavys drop uplinks inject down berries and rep them
AndyAndio 0uter.Heaven 131	Posted - 2015.02.11 06:09:00 - [109] - Quote If serious 2/10, crying about you cant afford proto stomping is just lame. If trolling 1/10 next time make a thread asking for ISK handouts.- 2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.- Retired for Love of the Game
Protected Void Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 387	Posted - 2015.02.11 06:17:00 - [110] - Quote saxonmish wrote: its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? Well...for the challenge? If you can do well in lower tier gear, then surely it's a better high skill indicator than if you need proto to do well. Also, proto skills on a suit gets you a better bonus on lower tier suit.

JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 667	Posted - 2015.02.11 06:32:00 - [111] - Quote Since saxonmish needs help. Lord Vader has requested me to give you 5 million isk along with 5 Imperial Star Destroyers. You shall expect your full payment by no later on 02/13/15. If you have any questions or concerns please dont hesitate to contact us. If you need help the Galatic Empire will always have your support and will destroy your enemies with easy. While those who accuse saxonmish of being a lier, they will be delt with one swift strike. The Galatic Empire does not tolerate it and if any corporation decides to act, we will show no mercy. The construction of the Death Star will start on the following day May 5, 2015. Have a nice day. :) MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1010	Posted - 2015.02.11 07:50:00 - [112] - Quote AndyAndio wrote: If serious 2/10, crying about you cant afford proto stomping is just lame. If trolling 1/10 next time make a thread asking for ISK handouts.- lol sorry the thing thats lame is the whole out of 10 thing that going on lately hahaa SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 269	Posted - 2015.02.11 10:55:00 - [113] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Since saxonmish needs help. Lord Vader has requested me to give you 5 million isk along with 5 Imperial Star Destroyers. You shall expect your full payment by no later on 02/13/15. If you have any questions or concerns please dont hesitate to contact us. If you need help the Galatic Empire will always have your support and will destroy your enemies with easy. While those who accuse saxonmish of being a lier, they will be delt with one swift strike. The Galatic Empire does not tolerate it and if any corporation decides to act, we will show no mercy. The construction of the Death Star will start on the following day May 5, 2015. Have a nice day. :) May 5? Mooom! I'm getting a Death Star for my birthday! Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2530	Posted - 2015.02.11 12:12:00 - [114] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I am rather surprised you're broke, Saxon, but perhaps running something other than proto suits and proto weapons is in your future. Makes it a bit harder to have 30+, 40+ or 50+ kill games, but you'll certainly make more ISK. Personally, I have two cheap fits I run when I'm running a bit low on funds -- a dual ScP advanced cal scout, and a BPO Dren Heavy w/advanced HMG. Both are very isk-efficient (around 30k), still let me get plenty of kills, and are loads of fun to play. I though i was alone on the dual BSCP scout. Recon is an Art Anything you can do a NINJA* can do better* Am skater & parkour practitioner
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1490	Posted - 2015.02.11 12:15:00 - [115] - Quote Life is hard when you jump off that sweet safe roof. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 336	Posted - 2015.02.11 12:21:00 - [116] - Quote What the hell is wrong with you guys? I'm not good at this game, I run full proto minlogi/min commando/cal commando/cal logi and still can make profit. I play solo so there is no one to save my yellow a&&. Ofcourse I use my BPO scout to RE your face up, but still. I have played 1 PC when I was in TUL (and lost ofcourse) so all of my 102m ISK is grinded in pubs. Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro Logibro2
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 862	Posted - 2015.02.11 12:50:00 - [117] - Quote Step 1: start a second corp Step 2: name it f.o.u.r.t.h r.ock. Step 3: fill it with noobs who want to play with their favorite youtube hero Step 4: Jack up taxes Step 5: profit Robin Williams endorses this corp
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2894	Posted - 2015.02.11 13:18:00 - [118] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke Maybe you should stop PRO stomping. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Duke Noobiam D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 382	Posted - 2015.02.11 13:53:00 - [119] - Quote Apex suits. ISK will never be a issue again.
Big miku Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 380	Posted - 2015.02.11 14:05:00 - [120] - Quote The Problem is with the Pay out system. You should get rewarded for what you kill and what you do. With such a system, people can run pure BPO fits, kill Proto Suits, and turn a nice profit. EVEN BETTER, The poor sub-20 million SP new players can turn huge profit be getting lucky and killing Proto Gear with their starter fits.

KingA2thur 57	Posted - 2015.02.11 14:22:00 - [121] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke Yeah yeah....you are really good and all other players are bad. Learn to participate in standard fits and you won-¦t need that much isk. To get trolled press any key. "I do not see 'any key'. I can only see a square, triangle, circle and cross."
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 962	Posted - 2015.02.11 14:31:00 - [122] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke If you use basic (or even advanced) you should be swimming in ISK. It is really easy to stay profitable and keep that ISK balance going up if you stick to a mixture of basic and advanced. You're just addicted to proto. Although, that does help you get high scores and make fun videos I guess. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
AndyAndio 0uter.Heaven 134	Posted - 2015.02.12 02:34:00 - [123] - Quote saxonmish wrote: AndyAndio wrote: If serious 2/10, crying about you cant afford proto stomping is just lame. If trolling 1/10 next time make a thread asking for ISK handouts.- lol sorry the thing thats lame is the whole out of 10 thing that going on lately hahaa Nah, laughing at your own jokes, thats lame.- 2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.- Retired for Love of the Game
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 377	Posted - 2015.02.12 02:58:00 - [124] - Quote AndyAndio wrote: saxonmish wrote: AndyAndio wrote: If serious 2/10, crying about you cant afford proto stomping is just lame. If trolling 1/10 next time make a thread asking for ISK handouts.- lol sorry the thing thats lame is the whole out of 10 thing that going on lately hahaa Nah, laughing at your own jokes, thats lame.- ****'s about to go down. 0.0 Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 377	Posted - 2015.02.12 02:58:00 - [125] - Quote True Adamance wrote: saxonmish wrote: LUGMOS wrote: saxonmish wrote: its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type? So in real life, if you were to, oh I don't know, sell paintings that you created, would you use the best paint available or the best brushes, even if you knew doing so could very well make you broke? Now, it's not the same thing, I know, since it is a game. But it is the same moral point. yea i would, if i was going to do something like try and sell a painting i would put all my effort into it to ensure the best price. any other wierd questions? and you just said it, 'its a game' so why should we have to feel like we are at work while we play it by saving up money for good luxury items lol Just play a couple of Eco Rounds every so often. Basically a round where you use you cheapest content options and rather than to win your goal is to tally up as much damage to your opponents economy as possible. One Protosuit for your Standard BPO is a major victory as long as you cost them their suit and weapons. ....basically Catmerc introduced my to CS:GO and the concept of the Eco Round is wonderful. You don't have to win, you don't even have to do well. But the knowledge that each kill/frag/whatever is doing damage to your opponents capacity to function in future rounds makes it worth it. Just apply those tenets to Dust. E.G- A Good Eco Round fit would be Laser Rifle Bolt Pistol Sleek Flux Grenades You can keep out of the meat grinder and inflict as much damage as possible on the enemy team without risking yourself. There are sleek flux nades? Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 377	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:00:00 - [126] - Quote castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 715	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:04:00 - [127] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish Join Corrosive Synergy ! Tax Free ! Gû¦
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 377	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:07:00 - [128] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Mex-0 wrote: castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this... Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6062	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:21:00 - [129] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: The Risk/Reward paradigm is very similar to Eve and designed to encourage a similar investment plan. Without getting into too much granularity, consider: rock (tank) - paper (ewar) - scissors (firepower). Basic: Pick 1 advantage - 10k+/suits Advanced: Pick 2 advantages - 40k+/suits Prototype: Pick 3 advantages - 120k+/suits You pay to carry the variety, even if you don't get to use it. By increasing the payout you affect 2 key gameplay issues: people should protect the suits they wear (benefits strategy and meaningful play) and increase the chance of the runaway-victor. Both hurt the game in the long term. I run a basic scout almost exclusively, and every time I assassinate a squad leader wearing prototype gear... I know that I have tipped the balance of power substantially, and probably cost that player the profit of their entire match. That meaningful interaction is the reason that thoughtful people play, and invest, in this game. I too want to run more prototype, but proto-saturation removes consequences from the ecosystem; and that is worthy of heavy consideration before any decisions are made. -daj It's not even close to comparable. Well it shouldn't be, but it actually is. The only playstyle in Dust is PVP. In Eve PVP is one of many playstyles, but for most nowhere near profitable. Most PVPers have alts or side jobs that fund their habits. In Dust we just have droves of passive players that wait for that match where there is no recognizable corp or player on the other team. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6062	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:27:00 - [130] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: Mex-0 wrote: castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this... I push for a more selective recruitment so this isn't even a possible misconception. We actually have a fairly open recruitment policy because we like the game and want others to enjoy it. I've literally never taken from the corp wallet for personal gain, nor has any person with access to our wallet. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.

saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1016	Posted - 2015.02.12 09:09:00 - [131] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Mex-0 wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: Mex-0 wrote: castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this... I push for a more selective recruitment so this isn't even a possible misconception. We actually have a fairly open recruitment policy because we like the game and want others to enjoy it. I've literally never taken from the corp wallet for personal gain, nor has any person with access to our wallet. i 100% agree i would never take out of the corp wallet for personal gain and my directors know that they are not allowed to either SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
DUST Fiend Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 15709	Posted - 2015.02.12 09:13:00 - [132] - Quote Years of flying has left my wallet traumatized and empty My YouTube (currently inactive) Homeless Dropship Enthusiast "See You Space Cowboy"
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1988	Posted - 2015.02.12 09:19:00 - [133] - Quote When we inducted people into our First Claw we would all dump them millions of isk. We used to have bpo fundraisers with corp tax at 100% and spread out the earnings to those who needed it. I payed every member a million for s killing into FG. another mil if they got AV grenades. I'd even give out millions to the first one who could make it to a rally point. Bounties. Vehicle reimbursement. It used to be very profitable to be a wolf. We traded all that for a zero tax. Now everyone struggles or thrives on their own. Who wants some?
Charli Chaplin jr 1.U.P 33	Posted - 2015.02.12 18:02:00 - [134] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke i thought you were a "BEAST"? why do you not run a FULL starter fit WITHOUT a squad and post it on YT i would be realy happy to see how '"BEAST" you realy are compared to a newer player. if you have 30million sp and you're still begging for isk i would realy like to know how you did as a noob. i would also like to see you make a commentary while you play as a militia WITHOUT a squad. i already saw you play in a militia fir but you had ADV eqquipment if not proto AND, you had a squad that were using full proto and making the job easier for you. (I'm french in case there's something you did not understrand.) ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3013	Posted - 2015.02.12 18:06:00 - [135] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub it sucks i just hate being broke If you can't beat proto suits (which don't help at all, IYAM) with the Starter fits, then you deserve your poverty. I routinely take on six-deep proto squads solo with a Starter AV fit and go 60 and 0. I would post video of this, but my cell phone is at my sister's house. KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1943	Posted - 2015.02.12 18:42:00 - [136] - Quote Easy way for sax to make ISK: say you won't make anymore vids until you recieve donations totalling 100 million ISK. Or beg in your descriptions. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 You got gud - DAAAA BEAST
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 380	Posted - 2015.02.12 22:20:00 - [137] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Mex-0 wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: Mex-0 wrote: castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this... I push for a more selective recruitment so this isn't even a possible misconception. We actually have a fairly open recruitment policy because we like the game and want others to enjoy it. I've literally never taken from the corp wallet for personal gain, nor has any person with access to our wallet. I didnt know anybody in ML, sooo... Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 293	Posted - 2015.02.12 22:58:00 - [138] - Quote You can't make isk running basic assault ....Lols Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 293	Posted - 2015.02.12 23:08:00 - [139] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: castba wrote: Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well. Save the STD or ADV for pubs. Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits. It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. I run mlt lr on a std amar assault Exile syndicate on a std gal assault A bpo shotty ona bpo min logi A std cal heavy stnd HMG A adv amar logi adv equip A adv amar scout Adv equip a adv minmando adv SL Adv cal heavy adv forge Adv cal heavy adv HMG Adv amar heavy adv HMG Adv min logi proto repair tool adv other Adv gal logi proto scanner Adv gal assault adv ar Adv amar assault adv lr I start in pubs in standard and if you puss me off ilk pull adv ...If you hurt my squad mates to much I'll pull a pc fit I have 85 million sp And 3.1 billion isk 11 full racial proto suits and almost every gun in dust My kdr idles around 3.5 running standard and adv in pubs and proto logi scout in pc ..two of the most kdr painful roles Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Karam Arami transport killers 8	Posted - 2015.04.30 08:09:00 - [140] - Quote I just use my medic starter fit with a basic assault rifle and smg with a six kin triage tool that works out pretty well for me and I even go positive in matches about 70% of the time

Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 206	Posted - 2015.04.30 08:19:00 - [141] - Quote da GAND wrote: not sure how one loses all their darn isk in battles unless you're running a lot of proto stuff. Running in Militia all the way to Advanced gear has always been enough for me. Proto for the win! As long as I don't die twice I make profit and buff my kd in the process General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 850	Posted - 2015.04.30 08:27:00 - [142] - Quote Man people hate throwing uplinks in so many public matches that that's truly how I aquired wealth (cheap uplinks). Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 206	Posted - 2015.04.30 08:45:00 - [143] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Man people hate throwing uplinks in so many public matches that that's truly how I aquired wealth (cheap uplinks). Damn so your they guy that makes me wait 15 seconds to spawn. Damn you General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 850	Posted - 2015.04.30 08:54:00 - [144] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Man people hate throwing uplinks in so many public matches that that's truly how I aquired wealth (cheap uplinks). Damn so your they guy that makes me wait 15 seconds to spawn. Damn you It's probably the only uplink on the field if I throw a 15 second spawn, I was refering to R-9's and lower yes, oh your welcome! next time walk from your MCC mean ass. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 206	Posted - 2015.04.30 08:56:00 - [145] - Quote Tell me what's the difference between the 2 advanced uplinks? Just go with it General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 850	Posted - 2015.04.30 09:04:00 - [146] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Tell me what's the difference between the 2 advanced uplinks? Just go with it I'm talking to all Dust players tho, point is to just get them to throw them more often. I'm not a fan of 15 second spawns neither but it is better than nothing. Yes agree, I only throw R-9's and higher but i'm rich now, not everybody is. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 206	Posted - 2015.04.30 09:10:00 - [147] - Quote I can't remember what there called. The other advanced uplinks, has a better spawn time that's it. Better than the R-9 same price I believe. Check the stats I beilive the R-S time modifier is 20 and the other is 8 General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19449	Posted - 2015.04.30 10:10:00 - [148] - Quote Proto by design is not sustainable. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 206	Posted - 2015.04.30 10:14:00 - [149] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Proto by design is not sustainable. If not used correctly General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19449	Posted - 2015.04.30 10:19:00 - [150] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Proto by design is not sustainable. If not used correctly If by using correctly you mean going into acadamy matches and protostomping then going have to disagree on that. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked

Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 206	Posted - 2015.04.30 10:25:00 - [151] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Proto by design is not sustainable. If not used correctly If by using correctly you mean going into acadamy matches and protostomping then going have to disagree on that. No. That's just stupid. Where's the honor in killing new players. I mean don't push the enemey. Be aware of your surroundings and most importantly pick your targets carefully General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 390	Posted - 2015.04.30 11:06:00 - [152] - Quote Lol I always wondered how stingy i am... If i see 36k suit i am generally scared to run it... So... Be stingy too? The ADS tourney! Join today!
Yeeeuuuupppp 1017	Posted - 2015.04.30 11:16:00 - [153] - Quote shaman oga wrote: not sure if you are serious or trolling... I'd say he's pretty serious, he normally only has a couple mil at a time *Sheeba Sheeba* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
Elpedo Hughes Dead Man's Game RUST415 104	Posted - 2015.04.30 12:39:00 - [154] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Proto by design is not sustainable. If not used correctly If by using correctly you mean going into acadamy matches and protostomping then going have to disagree on that. I make a profit running 24/7 Proto even with new match making.... Plus with the daily key, Warbarge & Daily missions, I'd say 24/7 Proto is probably pheasable for the top 5% instead of the top 1% like it used INB4 I redline snipe. I go hard My Officer and BPOs for Sale
DiablosMajora 144	Posted - 2015.04.30 13:39:00 - [155] - Quote >not running a 30k isk amarr commando with AScR and LR Genuinely more fun than my pimped out Minja Prepare your angus


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