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KingA2thur
57
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Posted - 2015.02.11 14:22:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game
i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub
it sucks i just hate being broke
Yeah yeah....you are really good and all other players are bad. Learn to participate in standard fits and you won-¦t need that much isk.
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
962
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Posted - 2015.02.11 14:31:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game
i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub
it sucks i just hate being broke
If you use basic (or even advanced) you should be swimming in ISK. It is really easy to stay profitable and keep that ISK balance going up if you stick to a mixture of basic and advanced.
You're just addicted to proto. Although, that does help you get high scores and make fun videos I guess.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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AndyAndio
0uter.Heaven
134
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Posted - 2015.02.12 02:34:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:AndyAndio wrote:If serious 2/10, crying about you cant afford proto stomping is just lame.
If trolling 1/10 next time make a thread asking for ISK handouts.- lol sorry the thing thats lame is the whole out of 10 thing that going on lately hahaa
Nah, laughing at your own jokes, thats lame.-
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
377
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Posted - 2015.02.12 02:58:00 -
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AndyAndio wrote:saxonmish wrote:AndyAndio wrote:If serious 2/10, crying about you cant afford proto stomping is just lame.
If trolling 1/10 next time make a thread asking for ISK handouts.- lol sorry the thing thats lame is the whole out of 10 thing that going on lately hahaa Nah, laughing at your own jokes, thats lame.-
****'s about to go down. 0.0
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
377
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Posted - 2015.02.12 02:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:saxonmish wrote:LUGMOS wrote:saxonmish wrote:its just all too tempting, whats the point in running something if your not gonna use the best type?
So in real life, if you were to, oh I don't know, sell paintings that you created, would you use the best paint available or the best brushes, even if you knew doing so could very well make you broke? Now, it's not the same thing, I know, since it is a game. But it is the same moral point. yea i would, if i was going to do something like try and sell a painting i would put all my effort into it to ensure the best price. any other wierd questions? and you just said it, 'its a game' so why should we have to feel like we are at work while we play it by saving up money for good luxury items lol Just play a couple of Eco Rounds every so often. Basically a round where you use you cheapest content options and rather than to win your goal is to tally up as much damage to your opponents economy as possible. One Protosuit for your Standard BPO is a major victory as long as you cost them their suit and weapons. ....basically Catmerc introduced my to CS:GO and the concept of the Eco Round is wonderful. You don't have to win, you don't even have to do well. But the knowledge that each kill/frag/whatever is doing damage to your opponents capacity to function in future rounds makes it worth it. Just apply those tenets to Dust. E.G- A Good Eco Round fit would be Laser Rifle Bolt Pistol Sleek Flux Grenades You can keep out of the meat grinder and inflict as much damage as possible on the enemy team without risking yourself.
There are sleek flux nades?
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
377
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:00:00 -
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castba wrote:Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well.
Save the STD or ADV for pubs.
Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits.
It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode.
obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp.
1.22 ftw.
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
715
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:04:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:castba wrote:Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well.
Save the STD or ADV for pubs.
Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits.
It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
377
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:07:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Mex-0 wrote:castba wrote:Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well.
Save the STD or ADV for pubs.
Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits.
It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish
I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this...
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
6062
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:21:00 -
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Mahal Daj wrote:The Risk/Reward paradigm is very similar to Eve and designed to encourage a similar investment plan.
Without getting into too much granularity, consider: rock (tank) - paper (ewar) - scissors (firepower).
Basic: Pick 1 advantage - 10k+/suits Advanced: Pick 2 advantages - 40k+/suits Prototype: Pick 3 advantages - 120k+/suits
You pay to carry the variety, even if you don't get to use it. By increasing the payout you affect 2 key gameplay issues: people should protect the suits they wear (benefits strategy and meaningful play) and increase the chance of the runaway-victor. Both hurt the game in the long term.
I run a basic scout almost exclusively, and every time I assassinate a squad leader wearing prototype gear... I know that I have tipped the balance of power substantially, and probably cost that player the profit of their entire match. That meaningful interaction is the reason that thoughtful people play, and invest, in this game.
I too want to run more prototype, but proto-saturation removes consequences from the ecosystem; and that is worthy of heavy consideration before any decisions are made.
-daj
It's not even close to comparable. Well it shouldn't be, but it actually is.
The only playstyle in Dust is PVP. In Eve PVP is one of many playstyles, but for most nowhere near profitable. Most PVPers have alts or side jobs that fund their habits. In Dust we just have droves of passive players that wait for that match where there is no recognizable corp or player on the other team.
I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
6062
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:27:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:Mex-0 wrote:castba wrote:Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well.
Save the STD or ADV for pubs.
Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits.
It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this...
I push for a more selective recruitment so this isn't even a possible misconception. We actually have a fairly open recruitment policy because we like the game and want others to enjoy it.
I've literally never taken from the corp wallet for personal gain, nor has any person with access to our wallet.
I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1016
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Posted - 2015.02.12 09:09:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Mex-0 wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:Mex-0 wrote:castba wrote:Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well.
Save the STD or ADV for pubs.
Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits.
It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this... I push for a more selective recruitment so this isn't even a possible misconception. We actually have a fairly open recruitment policy because we like the game and want others to enjoy it. I've literally never taken from the corp wallet for personal gain, nor has any person with access to our wallet.
i 100% agree i would never take out of the corp wallet for personal gain and my directors know that they are not allowed to either
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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DUST Fiend
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
15709
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Posted - 2015.02.12 09:13:00 -
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Years of flying has left my wallet traumatized and empty
My YouTube (currently inactive)
Homeless Dropship Enthusiast
"See You Space Cowboy"
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1988
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Posted - 2015.02.12 09:19:00 -
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When we inducted people into our First Claw we would all dump them millions of isk. We used to have bpo fundraisers with corp tax at 100% and spread out the earnings to those who needed it. I payed every member a million for s killing into FG. another mil if they got AV grenades. I'd even give out millions to the first one who could make it to a rally point. Bounties. Vehicle reimbursement. It used to be very profitable to be a wolf.
We traded all that for a zero tax. Now everyone struggles or thrives on their own.
Who wants some?
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Charli Chaplin jr
1.U.P
33
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:02:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game
i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub
it sucks i just hate being broke i thought you were a "BEAST"? why do you not run a FULL starter fit WITHOUT a squad and post it on YT i would be realy happy to see how '"BEAST" you realy are compared to a newer player. if you have 30million sp and you're still begging for isk i would realy like to know how you did as a noob. i would also like to see you make a commentary while you play as a militia WITHOUT a squad. i already saw you play in a militia fir but you had ADV eqquipment if not proto AND, you had a squad that were using full proto and making the job easier for you. (I'm french in case there's something you did not understrand.)
ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3013
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:06:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I tried running basic but its actually really hard to make a profit in this game
i usually logi for isk but then i notice my team are really sucky and cant seem to shoot straight and die then i cant pick them up cos they dont call for help and i end up on my own with no sub
it sucks i just hate being broke
If you can't beat proto suits (which don't help at all, IYAM) with the Starter fits, then you deserve your poverty. I routinely take on six-deep proto squads solo with a Starter AV fit and go 60 and 0.
I would post video of this, but my cell phone is at my sister's house.
KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1943
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:42:00 -
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Easy way for sax to make ISK: say you won't make anymore vids until you recieve donations totalling 100 million ISK. Or beg in your descriptions.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
You got gud - DAAAA BEAST
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
380
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Posted - 2015.02.12 22:20:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Mex-0 wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:Mex-0 wrote:castba wrote:Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well.
Save the STD or ADV for pubs.
Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits.
It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. Yeah what did you really think he'll refuse you ? He will happily take your isk and finance himself and the players that have a 2.0 + KDR and will prioritize those guys for PC . Capitalist saxonmish I don't even know how I got in... I left Molon Labe/G0ds am0ng men for this... I push for a more selective recruitment so this isn't even a possible misconception. We actually have a fairly open recruitment policy because we like the game and want others to enjoy it. I've literally never taken from the corp wallet for personal gain, nor has any person with access to our wallet.
I didnt know anybody in ML, sooo...
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
293
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Posted - 2015.02.12 22:58:00 -
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You can't make isk running basic assault ....Lols
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
293
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Posted - 2015.02.12 23:08:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:castba wrote:Why not save PRO for trying to win PC? I hear winning PC pays well.
Save the STD or ADV for pubs.
Oh, I forgot that applicants need a +2.0kdr, thus where your Corp focus lies. Pretty sure you guys could squad pub stomp in MLT gear if you chose to which would lead to a slight increase in challenge (maybe) and far greater profits.
It would be interesting how many elite players played in a STD/MLT only mode. obviously not 2.0 + kdr, as you can see i am in the corp. 1.22 ftw. I run mlt lr on a std amar assault Exile syndicate on a std gal assault A bpo shotty ona bpo min logi A std cal heavy stnd HMG A adv amar logi adv equip A adv amar scout Adv equip a adv minmando adv SL Adv cal heavy adv forge Adv cal heavy adv HMG Adv amar heavy adv HMG Adv min logi proto repair tool adv other Adv gal logi proto scanner Adv gal assault adv ar Adv amar assault adv lr
I start in pubs in standard and if you puss me off ilk pull adv ...If you hurt my squad mates to much I'll pull a pc fit I have 85 million sp And 3.1 billion isk 11 full racial proto suits and almost every gun in dust
My kdr idles around 3.5 running standard and adv in pubs and proto logi scout in pc ..two of the most kdr painful roles
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Karam Arami
transport killers
8
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Posted - 2015.04.30 08:09:00 -
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I just use my medic starter fit with a basic assault rifle and smg with a six kin triage tool that works out pretty well for me and I even go positive in matches about 70% of the time |
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
206
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Posted - 2015.04.30 08:19:00 -
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da GAND wrote:not sure how one loses all their darn isk in battles unless you're running a lot of proto stuff. Running in Militia all the way to Advanced gear has always been enough for me. Proto for the win! As long as I don't die twice I make profit and buff my kd in the process
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
850
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Posted - 2015.04.30 08:27:00 -
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Man people hate throwing uplinks in so many public matches that that's truly how I aquired wealth (cheap uplinks).
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
206
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Posted - 2015.04.30 08:45:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Man people hate throwing uplinks in so many public matches that that's truly how I aquired wealth (cheap uplinks). Damn so your they guy that makes me wait 15 seconds to spawn. Damn you
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
850
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Posted - 2015.04.30 08:54:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Man people hate throwing uplinks in so many public matches that that's truly how I aquired wealth (cheap uplinks). Damn so your they guy that makes me wait 15 seconds to spawn. Damn you
It's probably the only uplink on the field if I throw a 15 second spawn, I was refering to R-9's and lower yes, oh your welcome! next time walk from your MCC mean ass.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
206
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Posted - 2015.04.30 08:56:00 -
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Tell me what's the difference between the 2 advanced uplinks? Just go with it
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
850
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Posted - 2015.04.30 09:04:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Tell me what's the difference between the 2 advanced uplinks? Just go with it
I'm talking to all Dust players tho, point is to just get them to throw them more often. I'm not a fan of 15 second spawns neither but it is better than nothing. Yes agree, I only throw R-9's and higher but i'm rich now, not everybody is.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
206
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Posted - 2015.04.30 09:10:00 -
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I can't remember what there called. The other advanced uplinks, has a better spawn time that's it. Better than the R-9 same price I believe. Check the stats I beilive the R-S time modifier is 20 and the other is 8
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19449
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Posted - 2015.04.30 10:10:00 -
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Proto by design is not sustainable.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
206
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Posted - 2015.04.30 10:14:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Proto by design is not sustainable. If not used correctly
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19449
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Posted - 2015.04.30 10:19:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Proto by design is not sustainable. If not used correctly
If by using correctly you mean going into acadamy matches and protostomping then going have to disagree on that.
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