over buff AV yet again

So instead of doong the logical thing (look at missile and Python inbalances) you instead nerf dropships as a ehole, over buff AV yet again, and call it a day. Im glad you think flying up the whole game is somehow engaging, especially when swarms outpace you at all times because an afterburner somehow doesn't up your max speed.

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over buff AV yet again

That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks

please point us to the patch notes where AV was "overbuffed".

How'd you get hit by three sets of swarms?

I haven't played in a while, did they really reduce the lock on time or what? Because previously getting all three swarms off in a reasonable time frame was very difficult without the ADS blasting away.

Micheal Jordan23, idk what f*cking fit he uses but he can tank my entire clip of swarms from my cal mando with triple stacked comp light damage mods. You can kill swarms because i've been killed many times by ads.

It's harder then before but i still get killed a lot by ADS's when im swarming.


Change up your fits because it is possible to tank swarms.

That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks

Kills
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle

Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon

EDIT:

I'm guessing the swarm launcher kills are harder to count because pilots have a habit of bailing out of the DS before the SL gets a kill?

Anyway would be nice to see the stats on that also.

Window for engagement is something like 1 second before you have to GTFO...

This isn't even exaggeration. Even on my Python.

It's because of how well you've balanced the infantry game

or there's a **** ton of infantry combinations and only 3 workable ADS combinations?

Wow man.

Complaining that you can't outrun swarms in a slow armour tanked drop ship with no AB and then when you are given facts that drop ships are performing admirably well you shoot him down.

That coupled with everything else you say and do on here, just makes me come to the one conclusion.

You really are a bit of a ****.

That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks

Kills
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle

Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon

Shotguns, HMGs, and Rail Rifles aren't 'a **** ton of combinations' when we have almost two dozen infantry weapons.

Hey man,

I can't help but love the Rat. I'll do my best to lose as little sleep as possible, but you should try and cheer up!

Maybe find a game that doesn't get you so worked up, stress is a real killer!

EDIT:

Also to point out your OP, the afterburner only really works when on. Working as intended ;)

3 of the top 5 combinations are Boundless Heavy Machine Gun with a suit change, you could have;

3 x Sentinels suits with Boundless Heavy Machine Gun (I'm assuming the Min Heavy isn't viable)

6 x assault & commando suits with rail rifle

3 x suits with shot gun

etc

I don't even try to engage. Just fly my fat Incubus away. Going full speed away, swarms catch up and kill me each time.

Thanks Ratatti, you've made this game exceptionally engaging

Unless I have an Afterburner active and rush for the ceiling, im ******. Sometimes I wonder why I quit, then I play a couple matches and it all comes back to me. CCP has no idea how to balance AV vs Vehicles, and likely never will.

You mean my ship with 3% speed reduction, and an afterburner?

Sorry for pointing out that your hero posted something totally irrelevant by pulling kill stats for Pythons when I was talking about Incubus survivability.

Think what you will, I dont loose sleep over the rabble.

Sure, but as we see, the only ones in the top are:

- Amarr/Gallente/Caldari Sentinels
- Gallente Scouts

In weapons we have:

- HMGs
- Shotguns
- Rail Rifle

It's pretty obvious where the current meta is. Simply because we have -MORE- suits doesn't meant they're in the top combinations that fit with the meta, as is clear by what is shown. We have Assaults and Commandos, but none of them are in the top categories.

That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks

Kills
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle

Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Protroll, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon

You know Rattati...

I think most of the issue is that swarms don't require you to actually aim.

lol, isn't the Incubus an AV platform, hence the lack of kills. Both ADS's can survive 3 swarms if fit properly and all ADS can avoid getting hit with 3 swarms if piloted properly.

lol, isn't the Incubus an AV platform, hence the lack of kills. Both ADS's can survive 3 swarms if fit properly and all ADS can avoid getting hit with 3 swarms if piloted properly.

If the Python is viable in PC, even though Swarms are omg so OP, by proxy the Incubus is fine, especially with the ROF issue fixed in the last balance hotfix. This is widely reported by players.

Sup Dust Jesus, big fan.
What would you consider a properly fit ADS tho?
Like, what mods would you use?
Serious Question.