You mean my ship with 3% speed reduction, and an afterburner?

Sorry for pointing out that your hero posted something totally irrelevant by pulling kill stats for Pythons when I was talking about Incubus survivability.

Think what you will, I dont loose sleep over the rabble.

Sure, but as we see, the only ones in the top are:

- Amarr/Gallente/Caldari Sentinels
- Gallente Scouts

In weapons we have:

- HMGs
- Shotguns
- Rail Rifle

It's pretty obvious where the current meta is. Simply because we have -MORE- suits doesn't meant they're in the top combinations that fit with the meta, as is clear by what is shown. We have Assaults and Commandos, but none of them are in the top categories.

Sup Dust Jesus, big fan.
What would you consider a properly fit ADS tho?
Like, what mods would you use?
Serious Question.

How come I have never seen anything like this once in all the time I have played Dust514/Beta and Uprising?

That is information that is available to players in many other games and we Mercs have asked for it and never gotten even the decency of a reply. As in, we have begged for this, simply because it would make some of the freaking flame wars on the forums less toxic.

@CCP Rattiti, what is going on here? Is this real information or a troll? Is this a one time, gotcha share are we going to be able to see it without it needing to be used in a forum as a counter to a complaint?

Grrr, storming off to bed since you are dealing with shutdown.

And I apologize in advance if this upsets you. But you have no idea how seeing this information upsets me.

I am not trolling, I am not ranting at you CCP Rattiti. But this is truly upsetting.

KR

I may make a separate thread about this. Rattati are you saying then that assault dropships are being balanced around their killing effectiveness in PC as a solo gunship, rather than their actual intended role as a dropship? If this is the case then you should create a vehicle called a gunship and use it as such and balance dropships around the dropship role.

The dropships role is to carry a squad of troops into and out of contested, or soon to be contested points while providing limited fire support. Dropping them in key positions that can turn the tide of battle or prevent the loss of a position. This strategy is not used in PC, as it takes too many boots off the ground and makes them very vulnerable and possibly wasted assets. You will find gunship ads aloy more in pc because that is really the only viable way to use them, but its not the true role of a dropship, if balanced around a gunship it looses its qualities as a dropship.

This swarm change for instance, a smart pilot will run the second a volley hits the ship. Meaning that if he was on approach for pick up the ground team is now stranded, because of one swarm launcher. In the dropships description, extraction under "heavy fire" is listed as an atribute of the dropship, getting troops out and redeploying them elsewhere. It stands to reason that the dropship would be able to take some hits so as to preform its role.

Not everyone agrees with me, but the dropship is suppose to be a logistical ship with enough fire power to suppress hostiles long enough for the shock troops to get into a position. Dropships are not gunships and should not be treated or balanced as such.

I'm not saying this with an angry tone, more of a concerned one.

Apart from the fact that 90% of Dust doesn't do PC, about 100% of PC matches would rather have forge guns on rooftops than swarms, and Pc is widley recognized as a broken game mechanic things have impoved by proxy lol means absolutely nothing. I can use that to justify any thing.

The feedback on ROF by all incubus pilots was thats its better than before (as in not shooting less rounds than a militia turret any more'' but still crap. Got to call you out on this one, because the 'widley reported claim' is a fallacy.

Same as a fit ADS can tank three swars, certainly not three proto swarms, and my incubus has as much HP as one can possible fit on it. The math has been done to death, and you are just plain wrong.

I think I will make a thread about this while I'm waiting for 1.9 to download. I don't want dropships to be skytanks, but rather skysharks. They should be able to take a decent beating so they can support their crew but shouldn't have the fire power to decimate entire squads. Though they should have enough firepower to be a legitimate threat, at least enough of a threat to put an enemy squad on the defensive so the dropships squad isn't decimated as they hit the ground. Its a very delecate balance but dropships should be the poster boy for teamwork.